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 No.86676

I don't like teslafags, nor am i convinced of the usefulness of fully electric vehicles but isn't he kind of /ourguy/?

 No.86677

>>86676

I don`t know much about him.

I`m suspicious of billionaires, including those in California, Wall Street trash, or the Ogre who infests the White House.

100% electric cars have their use in I suppose increasingly sized niche markets. First users, I suppose.

Kinda neat what he did sending his car to space with landing rockets to the tune of David Bowie.


 No.86678

>>86676

His shitty meme company wouldn't even be solvent were it not for extensive government subsidies, and a good chunk of Tesla's "sales" are just to other companies to help them meet "X electric vehicles by year Y" regulations. Welfare leeches see not and never will be /ourguy/.

Also, learn to check the catalog, we already have a thread on Musk.


 No.86680

>>86678

>His shitty meme company wouldn't even be solvent were it not for extensive government subsidies

So it is with many companies.

Here in Ontario, while former premier Wynne, if I understand correctly gave such subsidies that paid for such, an Ontario-made electric car was essentially banned on Ontario streets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZENN_Motor_Company

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZENN

In Ontario, LSVs can be used on roadways within provincial or municipal parks and conservation areas (when driven by an authorized park employee) or on private property. A grey area is also using a slow moving vehicle sign on the back of a LSV and if approached by a police officer, to say that it is for farm use.[citation needed]"

Again, I'm suspicious of billionaires. Most likely got rich by screwing people over, sucked the public tit big time, and/or inherited their wealth.


 No.86681

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>>86680

>Ontario

Suddenly it all makes sense.


 No.86682

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>86681

The guy laughs like Larry King.

Try this video:

Trump supporters (the guys in the suits) versus hosers.

While Trump hides behind Twitter and tweets, and Trump supporters eat up his shit, Canadians TCB.


 No.86692

File: 5efbf994407545f⋯.webm (6.38 MB, 640x478, 320:239, Day_of_the_Leafblower.webm)

>>86682

Day of the rake is coming for you faggot.


 No.86696

He might be genuine good guy or a wolf in sheep's clothes.

At the end of the day, his intentions matter less than his actions.

So far, he's bringing attention to the Lugenpress, selling flamethrowers and advancing science in areas that were cockblocked for decades by (((powerfull interests))).

>the usefulness of fully electric vehicles

I don't blame you for not knowing about this, since it's constantly blocked/erased from public attention.

Your average combustion engine has an efficiency of 40%. And that's with all the modern hoopla where they attach a fuckload of things to it, otherwise it would sink to 25-30%.

If you're not an engineer: this means that when you load your car with 100 galons of gas, 60 of those galons are not used in moving it. They only end up producing vibration/sound, heat and little else.

On the other hand, electrical engines sport efficiency rates of 98% at minimum. The best one's sit at 99% (but require some specialized hardware to control).

If you want to know how big this is, it's what allowed people to have Fridges at home. Earlier models were based on combustion engines, but had no market: noone wanted to pay a fuckload of fuel to keep food fresh. At best, some super-market chains and restaurants had fridge chambers that were operated by combustion engines.

It was the effiency of the electrical engines that made Fridges cheap enough for the average consumer.

One funny detail: if you ask Volskwagen, Ford and Nissan about the effiency of their engines, they'll give you an 70-85% number. However, they'll neglect telling you how it's measured.

You calculate the amount of thermal energy you inserted based on the gas used. Then you calculate the amount that was expelled from the exaust. Subtract one from the other and voila! 80% effiency, easy as pie.

Then you ask your Physics teacher to teach you how to calculate the amount of energy to move a 700kg object 1000 meters, compare to the gas you burned for driving that long and you'll get the 40% value.

tl,dr: More than electrical engines being good, it's combustion engines that are pretty crap. I'm crossing my fingers Musk can get his Tesla on the market, but I'm not putting blind faith in the guy.


 No.86699

>>86692

November, Sweet November, is coming for you Trumpsters.

Your lord and master will be made even more impotent.

>>86696

Ah, an intelligent post. Thank you. Such are uncommon rare here.


 No.86700

>>86678

your entire society wouldn't exist without subsidies for oil, and energy you mouth breather.


 No.86702

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>>86700

>supply and demand need subsidies to work

K.


 No.86722

>>86696

This is hilariously condescending and inaccurate at the same time.


 No.86727

>>86700

>sockdem

two wrongs don't make a right you dip


 No.86759

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>>86702

>supply & demand signals explain all of economics

>>86727

It's still true in our society though.


 No.86921

>>86759

Supply and demand pretty much explains the jist of economics from scarcity of resources to allocation to price signaling.


 No.86927

>>86759

<supply & demand signals explain all of economics

With knowledge of the action axiom they explain 90% of economics. Certainly enough to demonstrate the retardation of subsidies, at any rate.


 No.86976

>>86927

You can explain exactly 0% of the real world with your retarded praxeology.


 No.86978

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