/liberty/ - Liberty

There were no good guys.

According to Peter Schiff, the americans lost the war, because as a result of it, government became bigger/more socialist, whereas Japan and Germany became more free market capitalism.

>>86609

Both were shit. It's a choice between:

a) The Nazis winning and turning Europe into a third-world shithole via socialist policies.

Or b) The Jews winning and bringing the third-world to us, plus also fucking Europe with socialism too.

I guess in the long-term the latter option was better because now we know for sure what it's like to live in a Jewish cyberpunk dystopia and if we ever overthrow it, we will know (having learned the hard way) to never let kikes rule things again. The only problem to watch out for is if it's the uneducated natsoc retards that ever get into government, because then they will start reinventing the wheel and our countries will turn into third-world where everybody will starts asking for Jews again.

>>86609

All I know is that the people lost.

>>86610

Correct, they were defeated and cruelly subjugated in the US Civil War.

>>86618

>Germany is more free market than America

nigger what?

>>86618

That's not because of the war, though. That was FDR being an asshat and Truman continuing the asshattery.

>>86713

Not directly but it contributed. "Muh War" is often used as a justification to help people look over blatant government overreach. Wilson did the same thing with the Fed, and the threat of the Great War was used to explain both that and several other expansions of his.

>>86710

Where's the lie tho

>>86712

>what is the wirtshaftswunder

>>86713

During the war the government introduces the income tax the victory tax to help allies win the war, of course nobody was against it back then, since they didn't want Hitler to win, but America won the war, and the tax is still there, at least Lincon had the decency to remove it after the civil war.

>>86609

>War

>Good guys

Pick one. The good guys always lose for being involved in an armed conflict even in selfdefense. There's nothing to win. At best you mitigate losses.

Yes. Next question.

Of course they did sweetie

Democratic capitalist nations defeated far right fascism/imperialists

so of course.

Allahu akbar.

>>86739

>far right fascism/imperialists

There's no such thing as "far right fascism". Fascism, and more specifically - national-socialism, is just leftism without Jews.

>>86746

Yeah and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democratic republic. It's in its name so it must be true!

>>86609

Yes.

The soviets won, you never march on Moscow.

>>87267

So the good guys?

>>87268

Hitler was a vegan junkie soyboy

>>86609

Yes, except for the Soviet Union, who were bad guys.

We chose to side with an evil power against an even more evil power. But we had no alternative.

>>87448

The USSR was many times more evil than Nazi Germany though.

>>87296

Also a half-jew with only one testicle

>>87454

>Nazi Germany literally was going to exterminate the Jews, gypsies, and most of the Slavs in Europe

>but the Soviets were the bad guys!

Try again, stormfag

>>87455

He wasn't half Jewish, but his arrest record from right after the Beer Hall Putsch confirms he was born with one testicle.

>>87460

>stormfag

>fag

Reported for using homophobic slurs. It's 2018 ffs.

>Nazi Germany literally was going to exterminate the Jews, gypsies, and most of the Slavs in Europe

You really have no right pretending to care for the people you mentioned or claiming moral superiority being the sneaky hypocritical commie that you are. With all their genocides, enslavement of society, forced poverty, etc… commies don't exactly have a stellar human rights record, even when compared to those evil nazis.

>>87470

I literally fucking condemned commies earlier in the thread. Just because Nazis were worse doesn't mean that the crimes of communist countries disappear. I'm a social democrat (i.e. a capitalist), not a communist, you fucking retard.

>>87474

Who are you subverting, sneaky commie? Social democrats are not capitalists, it's soft communism with a happy face. Besides that, you're saying the USSR was somehow more forgivable of a regime than Nazi Germany, simply because they targeted everyone and didn't just discriminate against a few ethnic groups. The blood of Slavs and everyone else that suffered under that regime is on your hands.

>>87476

>Social democrats are not capitalists

I mean, the means of production are privately owned and operated for profit, but don't let reality stop you…

>>87476

Dude, we ARE capitalists. My ideology is best described as civic nationalist social corporatism. Basically collaboration between the employers and employees. I'm sorry if you're so retarded that you think that anything that isn't laissez faire capitalism isn't real capitalism.

>Who are you subverting, sneaky commie? Social democrats are not capitalists, it's soft communism with a happy face.

Lmao, I hate commies too.

>Besides that, you're saying the USSR was somehow more forgivable of a regime than Nazi Germany

It killed a few million less than the Nazis did. Hitler killed 13 million, Stalin killed 9 million. Both were horrible totalitarian dictators, but Hitler was worse AND intended to utterly eradicate the Jews and most of the Slavs, whereas Stalin just hated the rich and certain ethnic minorities but was content with deportations much of the time rather than outright extermination of the ethnic groups.

>>87481

>The only real heroes I can qualify as heroes was the 'doomed army' of Poland as they tried to fight off both the Soviet Union and Germany with little capacity to do so with either. Of course, they lost.

The Finns fought purely in defense of their land as well.

>>86609

No. The Governments of most of Western Europe are now overtly hostile to their own ethnic aborigines.

Neoliberalism and Marxism are both hollow materialist ideologies that subvert nationalism and ethnic sovereignty, and lead to degeneracy and crime.

>>86966

>>86746

You realize that its literally possible to be a Marxist that doesn't like niggers, right?

Nazbol and Strasserism are forms of ethnocenticm communism.

Eric Striker is one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QaHwLWyVe8

>>87567

You're right, but nat-socs are still not right wing according to any traditional political compass. This is why "muh special snowflake third way" exists, because you don't like calling yourselves leftists.

>>87565

>ethnic aborigines

So, the Basques, Celts, etc., not Indo-Europeans.

I guess it's time for you to fuck off back to Eastern Europe.