/liberty/ - Liberty

>>85294

I'd say radical feminists don't understand humans. Notice how they chalk any comment from a women up to some form of insanity, unless it is in perfect agreement with them. I know no contemporary ideology that silences its critics to that degree. The Marxists, after decades of locking enemies up in mental health clinics, have become neutered enough to engage in actual dialogues despite everyone elses "class interest" that precludes them from seeing the truth. The NatSocs also play around with polylogism but they like it much more to paint dissenting opinions as part of a conspiracy.

The feminists are not like that. If you're a man, your opinion is tainted from the get go. If you're a women and you like rough sex, you yearn to be a slave for the patriarchy. If you like gentle sex, you're pampered by the patriarchy. If you don't like sex at all, you're just afraid of taking charge of your body. If you only want sex after marriage, take all three. You like to be modest in your clothing and behavior? You are ashamed of your body. Like to dress up as a slut? Unconsciously trying to please the patriarchy. Every choice from a women can be construed as an expression of a slavish mindset devoid of all independence. Feminists, then, routineously deny that women are capable of reason and autonomous decision making. To them, over 95% of all womens are not evil, not stupid, but insane.

As someone who has talked to actual females over the course of his life, I can say that they're not all insane. Of course many are full of shit, but that doesn't mean they're too stupid or irrational to help it if they wanted to. If you listen to feminists, they in fact do imply that if a women commits wrongthink, she is conditioned to do so, like a badly programmed computer or robot.

I think that's a fairly good sign that radical feminists understand no humans, period. Not men, not women. Imagine some weirdo who told everyone who ever disagreed with him that he's controlled by a "brainworm". You'd say that he lives in a fantasy world and doesn't know how people think or behave. The same is true of feminists, except that their brainworm is the patriarchy.

>>85423

>Not all women are feminists. Not all are potential feminists. Not all are on the way to become feminists. Of course, at your university, they may all be feminists, so I suggest you go out in the real world and meet real people you stupid idiot, not blue-haired baboons.

This is the same bullshit people say about niggers.

>>85424

What is the bullshit? What I said, or what he said?

The thing with blacks is that their cultures are never any good. There's also the genetic side of things but I think that one is less important. In the US, blacks have been singled out as victims and welfare recipients and that has created a culture of entitlement and envy. Then they developed their own culture of revolutionary battle, subversion, and eventually of showcased toughness and dimwittedness.

Imagine how bad the Italians would be if they had no Rome, no city states, no papacy next door, no famous philosophers, not even muh stronk fascism, and if they imported most of their culture and all their industry and technology from the Greeks. Eventually, the Greeks apologize to them for hundreds of years of oppression, and then socialists recruit Italians and tell them to revolt against the Greeks. Oh, and Italians can be spotted from a mile away, and don't even share one religion with the rest of Europe. Obviously, the Italians would become barbarians, the Wu Tang Klan would take the place of the Medici, and instead of Aquinas and Da Vinci, they'd have Malcolm X and 50 Cent. An overabundance of the warrior gene will just be icing on the cake, and it will never be bred out if it's there (in this sense, genetics are determined by culture).

In Africa, the blacks never had a cultured society. They got their culture from the whites, then they whites apologized for the bad treatment and left the blacks to self-govern henceforth. It went as well as you'd have expected.

Women obviously don't have this problem. If women are being ruined across the world now (an overstatement, more on that soon), that's a parallel development. They aren't all from one culture that split up into "still fucked" and "fucked over a different way". They come from a glorious western culture that is now being fucked over by liberalism, socialism and secularism, and while that development has a worse effect on women, it's not even limited to them.

What do? Well, stay away from the places were liberalism, socialism and secularism are strongest: The universities. I'm sure there are still plenty of good women throughout the US, and I know for a certainty there are even more in other countries. Get one from Hungaria or Poland, maybe, instead of looking for that one decent girl in New York.

>>85432

The problem with cultue is that it's never good, whether it's being inflicted on others or from them. Which culture threatens me the most is constantly changing, but the important thing is to take responsibility for one's own actions and not claim culture or anything else determines them.

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>>85432

What you said is the bullshit. "Not all x" is the same excuse made by race denialists to excuse niggers. Women are cancer because they are female not because socialism or liberalism made them that way. Without these pernicious ideologies, they are under male supervision and serve their function.

>>85471

>"Not all x" is the same excuse made by MRA's to excuse men

See this? If we listened to you, we'd nod and apologize whenever a feminist brought out her fabricated rape-statistics. "Not all x" is used to excuse men, women, niggers, jews, white people, Christians, atheists, and muslims. It's not an inherently bad argument. Sometimes, it's truthful and relevant.

It's not really relevant the way it's used about niggers. When your point is that their culture is toxic, as mine is, it's pretty irrelevant that there are exceptions. Thomas Sowell is a cool guy, does that change the fact that we must stop putting up with this culture? Hardly. Or if your point is that blacks are a different race and that we cannot get along with another race in our territory, then it's also irrelevant. Then it doesn't matter how cool Sowell is, he ruins the gene pool and/or will invariably subvert white society to install a black hegemony.

It would be highly relevant that not all blacks are murderers and rapists if you said that they should all be tortured to death. Or if you said that whites should never hire blacks under any circumstances. If you want to visit an African mountain, then it's very relevant to point out that Motobeke from Kangali is a good guide and very trustworthy.

It's also relevant when some sick fucks says that women should be summarily degraeded and humiliated. Why? Because that stupid fucking statement is explicitly not limited to feminists. It includes all women. No exception. As in, it includes your little baby sister and your highschool sweetheart. It's very relevant to point out that they might not be feminists and don't deserve to be called "fuckmeat" to their faces, or whatever other nice words are passed around these days. Or do you disagree? Do you think we should go to whatever girl you are dating and tell her you are a cumdumpster, or will it then miraculously become relevant that she's one of the good ones?

>Women are cancer

Is that a way to talk about your mother?

>because they are female not because socialism or liberalism made them that way.

How about you prove that? Well, not like there is much to prove when your thesis is "they are cancer". "Hypothesis: Women are cancer." You could get away with this as a sociologist or an anthropologist but not as a legitimate scientist.

>Without these pernicious ideologies, they are under male supervision and serve their function.

Their "function"? You make living people sound like car engines or screwdrivers, including your own mother. And you paint yourself as a conservative?!

>>85558

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>>85558

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>>85432

>See this? If we listened to you, we'd nod and apologize whenever a feminist brought out her fabricated rape-statistics. "Not all x" is used to excuse men, women, niggers, jews, white people, Christians, atheists, and muslims. It's not an inherently bad argument. Sometimes, it's truthful and relevant.

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>>85562

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>>85294

you never understand Radical Feminists

looks like you don't actually know anything about life

do you care about their life, health, choice?

what do you know about them?

The woman becomes feminist after abuse.

I read the gynaecologists books. Sex traumas are horrible. no one deserves it.

And I know one woman, who almost died after her deflowering after the wedding.

Her husband wanted to see blood (is he a good man? No, actually. he likes to look at the suffering of another) but her hymen is too solid.

She was in a lot of pain, she has begged him to stop.

He wanted to see blood, nothing else bothered him.

And he left a hole between the vagina and rectum. Hyman was intact after this.

( surprise just for the stupid body. Hyman can be infected after penetration! )

it was too much blood that they had called an ambulance. she had a blood transfusion.

he paid a lot of money for her treatment.

but she cannot have babies. (did you think rape is can't be serious? ) her healthy have been completely destroyed.

he regretted about it after. ask for forgiveness, sad "I was drunk. I am a different man. I will not hurt you anymore".

she hasn't forgiven. her healthy have been completely destroyed. if you didn't understand yet.

This trauma was treating very long time. she became Radical Feminists after two months in hospital.

women do not trust us because you, and another man makes totally wrong things.

but they are alive and understand something.

They do not trust me because you.

They never show you the real face. never tell you the truth.

But I can see you don't need it.

you have fun debating Radical Feminists as opposed do some good for yourself, do you understand that?

>>85610

surprise just for the stupid body. Hyman can be intact after penetration!

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>>85432

>been singled out as victims and welfare recipients and that has created a culture of entitlement and envy.

No, anon, it's a vicious cycle. Niggers are a retarded species of unevolved savages, who can't do nay work beyond "chase down a lion and then pick fruit." The left has to constantly give them welfare, because they'd riot and eventually starve to death. You cannot create a statue out of water, and you cannot create a civilian out of a nigger

>Women obviously don't have this problem. If women are being ruined across the world now (an overstatement, more on that soon), that's a parallel development. They aren't all from one culture that split up into "still fucked" and "fucked over a different way". They come from a glorious western culture that is now being fucked over by liberalism, socialism and secularism, and while that development has a worse effect on women, it's not even limited to them.

Women have a fucked up psychology framework, and pattern of thinking, that leads them towards false conclusions. This is an evolutionary "failure", but it's not a failure at all if they reproduce. Women are status bound, and care only for their social standings; they care not for ideology, liberty, culture, race, or religion. Because women cannot think for themselves, for the most part, they are easily led astray by retarded ideologies (i.e. feminism, BLM, socjus).

>>85676

>chase down a lion and then pick fruit

Niggers can't even chase down a lion, they wait for the lion to chase down something else, then they use their pure niggerness to scare the lions and steal their food.

>Women have a fucked up psychology framework, and pattern of thinking, that leads them towards false conclusions. This is an evolutionary "failure", but it's not a failure at all if they reproduce. Women are status bound, and care only for their social standings; they care not for ideology, liberty, culture, race, or religion. Because women cannot think for themselves, for the most part, they are easily led astray by retarded ideologies (i.e. feminism, BLM, socjus).

I can argue with this, in some countries women are much better than their men, caring more for those things than their men do. There's nothing fucked up about females, everyone who thinks that women or female nature is inherently evil or flawed is simply not alpha enough to deal with the average female (and that's a lot of people in today's society). It's the same thing as socialists blaming capitalism for their own faults, complaining about how the game is rigged and it's not fair, etc…

>Because women cannot think for themselves, for the most part, they are easily led astray by retarded ideologies (i.e. feminism, BLM, socjus).

This is also not true, historically women have always been taking part in nationalist, traditionalist, religious movements, etc… it's only in the past 100 or so years that they've been corrupted with all kinds of leftist filth, and it's not just them, there's hordes of beta males in these movements too.