/liberty/ - Liberty

I and many other people had a nightmarish experience in school being overwhelmed and overworked by multiple hateful, bitter, and careless teachers who competed to see who could give the students the least amount of teaching and learning and the most amount of testing and quizzing, or who could give out the most school work out of the multiple teachers you were supposed to attend classes with throughout the day. then they would all compete to see who could give out the most precious-relax-and-recover-opportunity destroying homework assignments, and who could give out the most on vacations so that those were ruined too, and finally who could give out the most on summer break so that you would really feel that feely kind of feel that feels very very bad.

it wasn't ever enough that school already looked like, sounded like, felt like, and clearly and obviously resembled a slave labor camp; but it never stopped at just that. I was bullied by students endlessly without mercy and was unable to recieve any help from a teacher because they didn't seem to care and never took any action to stop my suffering no matter what I told them. teachers had special preferences for the worst students either knowingly or because the bullies always had a perfected split personality for their victims and their teachers and somehow never got caught no matter what. a teacher could watch me get punched right in the face and wouldn't do a single thing about it. I could tell them and even if they saw it happen they would deny it or try to brush it off "oh just get over it, you're tough! don't let them get to you! just walk away" but after countless days of being physically assaulted if you even raised your arms to defend yourself or block a punch from a bully, the teacher would be the first to run over and give you all the blame and send you off for detention and in school suspension. there was always this strange lingering theme that I was the designated scape goat of the entire school. I could promise on a stack of bibles that they were a well organized cult and I was some sort of sick twisted sacrifice. but I rejected their game, and somehow I made it out alive. I didn't snap and go berserk like the shooters because I'm a very reasonable person and I would never even think to do something like that. I'm convinced that I have more patience than a saint.

but.

after that experience I understood Why, and How these things happen.

I believe it in my heart and soul that there is a rampant vicious and rabid viral pandemic of highly organized scapegoating taking place in Americas schools. I believe that this is also highly likely to be occuring in Japan. look at their suicide rate and the ages that people commit suicide at. children and young adults are being overwhelmed, overworked, and gangstalk scapegoated literally to death all over our great country and these pieces of shit in the school system and the mainstream media have the gall to tell people to "learn how to watch out for the warning signs"

You want to know what the very best cure for breast cancer is you shitlover pink ribbin worshipping cucks? it's not early detection "our scan determined that we now know that you now ALREADY have cancer! congratulations!" it's prevention.

Stop doing the things that create monsters, and maby you wouldn't have to be constantly looking out for them, you damn fools.

(in cases where they are actually a real good person the counselor will actually help you and stop the bullying)

(this is not one of those examples. this is much darker and is much more common than anyone would ever admit)

example:

>anon comes in and says: behavior therapist counselor please help I'm being bullied

>if you are being bullied, just walk away

>BUT COUNSELOR, THE BULLIES HAVE LEGS

>NUP! shup! SHUSH! "just walk away"

>but that's horrible adv-

>NOOOOOOOOP! SHUUUUUUUUUUUSH! just walk away!

>next day: help I walked away but they hit me

>Huh, well it must have been your fault for some reason! you probably walked over to where they were! stop doing that!

>no I didn't they came to where I was and hit me for no reason!

>are you SUUUUUUUURE it was for no reason? you didn't do something to them first?

>what? are you kidding me? I'm being physically assaulted! aren't you going to do something about it?

>are you really REALLY sure it wasn't your fault? *shit eating facial expression of skepticism*

>oh sure I'll talk to the bully

>bully keeps on bullying

>they tell the bully "hey didn't counselor tell you to stop? leave me alone!"

>bully just grins this evil shit eating grin like they know they will get away with it no matter what

>bully hits them again

>tells on bully

>tells the teacher

>tells the counselor

>tells the vice principle

>tells the principle

>nobody does anything

>bully gets away with no consequences scott free for no reason

>bully hits person another day

>so this is it. no options left. nobody is coming to save them. nobody is going to do anything about it. this is literally hell. someone help. please. please. someone.

>bully goes to hit again

>person raises their arms to defend from being hit, not even hitting back just blocking to avoid injury

>only when the person blocks a hit, suddenly every teacher and counselor and employee of the school sticks their heads out of the woodwork like they were right there around the corner the whole time just waiting to see what would happen.

>bully just walks away like nothing is happening right in front of everyone

>everyone looks at the victim who defended themselves non-violently as if they just commited every crime in the world at the same time.

>victim sent to the office or dragged there by the arms like a prisoner. guilty until proven innocent. guilty even with proof to the contrary.

>bully gets no punishement and is functionally ignored and non-existant while the person being attacked gets victim blamed and sent to detention/suspension/expelled

>ANON HOW DARE YOU! YOU ARE SO BAD HOW COULD YOU PUT YOUR ARMS TO TO DEFEND YOURSELF EVEN WHEN YOU KNEW NOBODY ELSE WAS GOING TO SAVE YOU NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU CRIED OUT FOR HELP!! WOW!! YOU'RE IN BIG TROUBLE ANON! YOU ARE GOING TO BE PUT ON A BUNCH OF MIND ALTERING CORPORATE PHARMACEUTICAL PRESCRIPTION DRUGS-I MEAN MEDICATION TO FORCE YOU TO CONTROL YOUR FEELINGS UNTIL YOU'RE AN EMOTIONLESS SOULLESS ZOMBIE. WE WILL PUNISH YOU FOR JUSTLY FEELING BAD ABOUT BAD THINGS BUT WE WONT STOP ANYONE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING YOU FEEL THAT WAY, BECAUSE IT IS WE WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE! IT IS US WHO GUIDED YOU TO THIS DISASTEROUS HOPELESS SITUATION AND INEVITABLE VIOLENT OR SUICIDAL CLIMAX!

>but why oh why do so many school shootings happen? we must ban all guns because people don't respect the sticker on the door that says there are no guns allowed!

quote from an anon:

>Why do they say shit like this? Because it makes normalfags feel good. It implies that they are powerful and in control of not only their own selves, but the world around them. It also makes them feel wise, as if they are passing on a profound insight onto someone dumber than them.

>How could you not know to just.. like.. y'know.. not be sad/angry/hurt/cold/on fire? Come on, brah! Just put yourself out there!

>And it should go without saying, that it makes them feel like they are helping someone without actually having to help them.

while this may be true in some cases it's very important to note that some people do this on purpose for evil and manipulative reasons

THEY DO IT ON FUCKING PURPOSE

IT'S A GANGSTALKING GLOBALIST CULT

Public schooling is the NUMBER ONE scourge upon humanity!

This is what it's like in the US: you learn to read and write, do basic calculator math, and you get a very vague and hazy overview of 'history'. Just enough for politicians to use historical celebrities to push their personal agendas while leaving the bulk of the population clueless to what history actually looked like and why things are the way they are, and making them not want to know since they disliked their schooling so much.

All the while they're teaching children to fear, obey, and receive all 'truth' from constantly changing figures of authority to whom they are essentially helpless. A divide is put into the family since children are torn from them too young for too long when we've evolved to live side by side until old enough to fend for ourselves; it kills oral tradition and leads to children and parents not understanding or appreciating one another, since they both live in entirely different worlds during the day and when they're finally under the same roof, they're so exhausted and emotionally drained they just want to vegetate in front of a TV or a computer monitor. Little deep connection or conversation happens here than in families closer to one another

Don't you see? It destroys families and destroys their knowledge from being passed on, replacing it with bureaucratically preapproved information. It's a tool for control

Take the children, force them to WASTE their entire childhood doing absolutely nothing productive or useful, force them to associate "learning" with tedious and mediocre work, then they go home and associate "fun" with tv and the media.

The schools are not intended to teach children, one of their main goals is preventing them from learning too much that would make them less dependent on the system. Having just enough skills to be a useful cog in the machinery is the aim, and of course with the proper brainwash upbringing.

>Kid Drops a pencil while working

>Goes to pick it up

>Teacher screams at him to sit down

>sits down

>"Why aren't you drawing?"

>"I dropped my pencil"

>screams at the kid "Go to the principles office/pink slip/detention/referral/"

>go to principle

>Anon what happened

>tell them what happened

>they ask me another question even though I just told them everything that happened, conveniently ignoring all the details of what I said

>"Anon, why didn't you have a pencil?!"

>"I did, I dropped it."

>"Clowning around in the class then."

>"No, it was an accident."

>"Maybe you wouldn't have made that accident if you'd bothered to bring a pencil."

>"But I did! I just told you what happened"

>"Then why did Ms. Bitchface send you to me?"

>"Uh, because she entrapped me into a bad situation on purpose?!"

>"This sort of behavior will not be tolerated. Forgetting to bring a pencil to art class is lazy but disrespect of teachers is intolerable!"

very sad example of "kitty cat HANG IN THERE FRIEND" poster overload at school from an anon.

"That reminds me. Imagine taking a class that has no windows and all of the walls are plastered with posters. You can't put your eyes anywhere without seeing them. And if you try to look away, the nacrissist you are supposed to be worshiping has a meltdown. And they are designed to be as asinine and distracting as possible. They drove me into panic attacks. I completely lost my nerve so many times just over those posters. It's not something that bothers you at first. It's just an annoyance. But as the years go on and with all the other things happening, it turns into a blistering rage. One that has to break eventually. Like Chinese water torture except in the form of eyesight pollution. And then of course it's time for psychologists and forcefully voluntary medication."

"Me in high school:

>none of this shit is remotely useful

>what is useful isn't remotely new to me

>my peers are stupid

>maybe college will be better

Me in college:

>Fuck, it's worse, and IM PAYING FOR IT

>FUCK ME, FUCK SOCIETY!

>Alright, time to "go through the motions" so I can at least get a decent job, but I'm not going any further with "education"

"It's very simple: those who can't do, teach

with few exceptions, full-time school teachers are the most egotistical and incompetent people to be part of society.

>They punish students for "being smart" – translated as using their critical thinking ability and creativity to expose the holes in said teacher's logical process.

>They punish students for defending themselves and being self reliant.

>They punish students for original thought.

It's better to learn from those who actually do, like your parents or your retired elders in a multi-generational household, than it is to learn from one of these parasites."

"I can say with confidence that Zero-Tolerance policies (specifically the ones regarding fighting, which discourage standing up against bullies) are one of the many things responsible for creating a generation of idiots and sociopaths.

I started getting bullied since before I was 8 years old. It only got worse as time passed. Every single day was a struggle not to lash out at the people who physically and verbally abused me. I was pretty big for my age (part of the reason they picked on me), and my parents told me that they would not be mad at me for defending myself against them (though they never actively pushed me to do so), but I knew that I would get suspended or worse if it came to blows. Ultimately, I was more scared of my teachers and principal than I was of my peers. I was unable to stand up for myself as a student, and the principle/teachers did absolutely fuckall. Very often a bully would start hitting me when they knew a teacher or employee of the school would be intentionally not giving any attention to anything in my general direction, not because they were tired or careless, rather they knew that trouble always followed me and they behaved like cowards and became intentionall lazy, unwanting to deal with the bullies that constantly harassed me. The pompous, pretentious, hypocrites would pretend they were being smart by "allowing the problem to resolve itself". When I would bring up my hands to cover my head and face from the attacks the teacher would only then decide to pretend to notice that I lifted my hands, not to strike, but to cover my own body in self defense without any offense in any way, and the teacher would immediately punish me and send me to detention.

How DARE I protect myself from people who had the unspoken ability to be completely invisible to teachers and other figures of authority that could never insult reality by wearing such a title. My parents would contact the school and say "Hey, why are you letting my child be psychologically tortured by his classmates?" and the school would feed them some horse shit like "We're doing everything we can to help him!" Either way, they'd sooner suspend one kid for beating the shit out of someone than suspend half of a class for mistreating that kid. There was nothing being done, nothing could have been done without me being punished, so I just took everything they threw at me, and they never held back." The amount of homework being given every single day, every weekend, every holiday break, was becoming hateful and abhorrent. The amount of books students were required to drag painfully around the school on their young undeveloped backs and shove into undersized and strategically meticulously systematically tiny undersized and inconveniently placed lockers far from each and every single classroom equally, was becoming too much for me. I had straight A's and they all dropped to F's in a very short period.

My parents, brainwashed by psychologists and therapists forced me to take several kinds of "medications" that I "needed" so that I could "do better" and "feel better" played games with my young developing brain's chemisty and my hormones and constantly simulated a physical emotional experience of feelings I can only describe as literally being in hell. The side effects where literally anything you could have imagined. I gained weight from it all, and the stress. I was 150 pounds overweight and malnourished and flushed all my pills one day and promised I would never take another pill from these shitty fake doctors ever again. I spend some time in a mental hospital as they tried to convince me I needed them, but I didn't give in and thank GOD there wasn't much more they could force upon me, so they let me go. I changed my life and lost a ton of weight and now I warn people about school and how fucked up this shitty terrible nightmare we live in a system designed to cultivate unrelenting suffering and psychological slavery. I warn people because I have hope. I want to change this fucked up world one word at a time.

"Public schools are corrupt. I used to live in a state where attendance was mandatory.

Was bullied every single day until I just got sick of it at quit going to school. A couple weeks later I was sitting in a court, fined about 700 dollars, put on probation for an entire year of my life, and forced to go to school. I ended up missing a week to grieve for my grandfather but they decided I took too long and threw me in a juvenile detention center for a whole month. I was finally able to get off probation after forcing myself to go classes and do 48 hours of community service, it was a huge load off my mind. One day at school, one of my "friends" was caught selling weed to other students and had his mom's pills in his locker. You know what he got? 2 days suspension. He had shit grades, but he attended school, and that's all that matters to them."

"The most infuriating part about bullies is the double standard where they never ever seem to get in trouble for their behavior, but anyone who dares stand up to them is slammed down with an iron fist, could it be part of the government agenda? are they doing this on purpose to force people to accept "their place in society" early on?"

A large part of the problem is that the school system ACTIVELY weeds out good teachers. The whole process is bogged down with so much bureaucracy that any teacher who actually tries gets swamped by the amount of useless paperwork that they have to do. It breaks people who just want to teach and leaves only teachers who don't even try.

Almost every teacher at any school does not fill out all the paperwork they're supposed to and the ones that are will likely quit soon. The whole thing has created a massively negative atmosphere around teaching. Parents, for good reasons, see a lot of teachers as dumb and unreasonable because of this weeding out of anyone half decent and that mindset weeds out even more teachers because the parents hate you. The whole thing is horrible and anyone who actually wants to teach should not become a teacher.

Imagine being away from your family, the people are who meant to love and care for you, only to spend your waking hours with surrogate mothers who couldnt care less for you and your well-being, pressed into doing menial tasks over, and over, in a hostile environment, and with no outlet for your energy. You can read more about this in the book "The War on Boys" by Christina Summers I know, I know, but pertaining purely to how boys are treated in public schooling, her information is solid. Boys are punished purely for being boys, for being energetic, for being talkative and full of ideas and life. Girls are treated as the gold standard, being quiet and submissive. Imagine being punished for just being yourself, having to carry around a 45lb backpack all day, dealing with bullies, shitty food, demeaning classroom routines, and then taking that home, only to do it tomorrow, and the next day, and the next.

It's horrible, it's maddening. It's disgusting that so much talent, so much wonder and purity is beaten out of our youth. They're turned into soulless automatons and for what? For jobs that are no longer there? For a society that doesn't care for them? I can't imagine a worse fate. I fully agree with OP, don't look for signs to prevent a future bad thing for happening, prevent it from happening to begin with. Such major reform is needed it's staggering.

If you act or think differently you are punished for being rebellious. If you conform and give them what you think they want from you, then you are punished for being obedient.

The problem isn't what you do, but what you are. your very soul at its base is different than theirs.

(((They))) are here to break the people who are naturally resistant to the programing, so that they either conform completely or become broken and too messed up to act on what they instinctively know is wrong with society because their mind isn't as much of a propaganda sponge. the entire education system is a giant brainwashing camp that acts like a filter of darkness that only lets the most plain and normal and stupid and obedient people through, while viciously destroying anyone who is smart and innocent and good and capable of critical thought.

Society has also been indoctrinated with the idea that people who dropped out of school or didn't get good grades must be bad people, which makes it even more difficult to get along with people or get a job. As if it wasn't difficult enough?

>go to school

>nobody teaches anyone anything

>no teaching, just constant testing. testing to make sure you are good enough to pass more tests

>fail tests because nobody taught me anything

>get bad grades

>don't graduate and get "amazing important piece of paper that says I'm good enough"

>look for job

>"oh haha anon HAHA so HAHA, sorry… hehe it says right HERE that you didn't pass school/dropped out/didn't go to college"

>"that's right"

>"okay we will call you back later"

>they never call back

>repeat a thousand more times even at fast food restaurants

>nobody calls back

>NOBODY

>can't find job

>can't pay for food or water

>become homeless

>get arrested for being homeless because its illegal in usa

or alternatively:

>go to school

>take tests and only pass by slamming huge amounts of pointless waste information into my head

>get no sleep

>have no social life

>have no friends

>be miserable

>have no pleasure or happiness in life

>get good grades

>graduate and get "amazing important piece of paper that says I'm good enough"

>can't find job because don't have experience

>can't get experience because nobody will give me a job

>but I have "amazing important piece of paper that says I'm good enough"

>sorry anon the economy is bad

>but

>suck it up for uncle sam! MURRICA!

>can't pay for food or water

>become homeless

>get arrested for being homeless because its illegal in usa

(reply to above)

>"Easiest solution is to drop out and get a GED. Then you can go to community college and/or tech school to learn a trade that will not be replaced by robots, such as in the medical field. There are ways you can make it without further subjugating yourself to this indoctrination bullshit."

>to learn a trade that will not be replaced by robots, such as in the medical field.

>will not be replaced by robots, such as in the medical field.

>such as in the medical field.

http:// spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/medical-robots/inside-an-mri-a-nonmetallic-robot-performs-prostate-surgery

https://archive.is/vW68R

http:// gizmodo.com/this-robot-performs-less-intrusive-brain-surgery-throug-1647090531

https://archive.is/x2raf

https:// en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot-assisted_surgery

https://archive.is/mgqYg

https:// en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robotic_surgery

https://archive.is/ni5YX

http://w ww.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2599715/Would-let-terrifying-snake-robot-slide-THROAT-perform-surgery-inside-body.html

https://archive.is/pop0l

>implying society will even need jobs in the near future or currency to run the system upon

>implying the GED is even worth it

>take what is basically a giant standardized state shit test

>nobody gives you a job anyway

the biggest waste you can make is running around trying to please the monsters that run the system by giving them any form of your effort and taking their quizzes, and looking for their approval. while you could have spent the time looking for food or water, or running away to some better place on earth to make a new life for yourself, they have you sitting in some little school room taking the GED.

>GREAT

>ENTROPIC

>DEATH of your mind

>people who home school are on watch lists.

http://w ww.renewamerica.com/columns/zieve/111203

https://archive.is/7VPdT

http://w ww.networkworld.com/article/2228920/microsoft-subnet/ridiculous-dhs-list–you-might-be-a-domestic-terrorist-if—.html

https://archive.is/909fh

forget kids getting expelled for eating poptarts and being accused of "the poptart looking a similar shape as a gun", now kids are getting sued for looking at each other and smiling and getting along.

https:// reason.com/blog/2015/10/02/12-year-old-boy-suspended-for-looking-at

https://archive.is/LLDQD

https://archive.is/J3N9D

Federal Government Is Bullying Parents Who Homeschool Their Children

A 14-year-old girl was suspended from school for a month and faces possible assault and battery charges for playfully throwing a baby carrot at one of her former teachers.

https:// reason.com/blog/2015/10/25/school-wants-teen-charged-with-assault-f

https://archive.is/DDkMr

A fourth-grader from Hillsborough, Florida, was warned not to pass any more love notes to his female classmates—and will be charged with sexual harassment if he persists.

http://w ww.wptv.com/news/state/love-note-lands-fourth-grade-student-in-principals-office

https://archive.is/HDo2z

https:// reason.com/blog/2015/11/12/9-year-old-boy-who-passed-love-notes-to#comment

https://archive.is/iwZNt

remember that (((they))) want to destroy learning and curiosity and kill everyone's childhoods. (((they))) want to keep all children always controlled and supervised so that they can be allowed to only get into (((specific types of trouble))) like all the different stories that were mentioned in the OP. they are playing the palpatine. both sides of the war. both angles. they want to abolish the best kinds of adult supervision that teach maturity and wisdom and skills and the freedom and innocence and ability to absorb new information of childhood but (((they))) simultaneously want to push the worst kinds of controlling dystopian adult supervision and baseless undeserved punishment and slavery and bring out the most immature and selfish and bratty qualities in all children so that they grow up to be just like their slave masters. the whole system is based on built in obsolescence and intentional incompetence. they set impossible goals and make up awful zero tolerance rules that are easy to interpret in any way that anyone pulls out of their ass at any random moment for any or no reason at all. the whole system is designed from the ground up to set up everyone who is a part of it, willingly or not, to fail very hard. it's made to weed out anyone who is good or has any good qualities and punish them for being a good human being while rewarding dishonesty, deception, and cult like practices. all the people who don't know what is happening get caught up and forcefully psychologically tortured and trained to depend on the system while simultaneously not trusting it. nobody is allowed to be independant (or even learn how to be) or practice free and critical thinking skills (nor are they taught this), nobody is allowed to question anything (if they do they are punished), and everyone is brainwashed to be okay with others doing every possible thing the wrong way (if you speak out of place you are punished) (((they))) are intentionally engineering a world where they sow the worst seeds that bare the worst tree's that bare the worst fruit.

the worst part of school is that your parents can't or rather wont save you because they choose to be ignorant or are just too damn stupid to realize what they're sending their kids into, even if those kids come home every single day crying and begging to not be sent back again the next day, or ever again. parents have too much faith in an obviously evil and corrupt system that sends their kids into what is essentially a jail every single day until their childhood is dead. the torture and the brainwashing is relentless and merciless and without care for the health or happiness of the child's soul.

I HAVE A DREAM

>me and my friends are sitting in a class room

>teacher is a genius but a total hippie but one of those cool right leaning hippies.

>whole classroom is "exercise free speech and explore and learn and relax"

>teacher is helping everyone and everyone is learning because teacher actually knows what they are talking about and actually cares

>students are encouraged to question everything and learn

>no stress

>no homework because home is your time to recover

>friends are happy

>I'm happy

>learned everything we wanted to know

>big lunch break

>big recess break

>a reading/optional desk nap break

>huge amounts of field trips and camping trips

>teachers are everyones actual best friends and everyone looks up to them

>every day is a magical adventure of learning

>you actually learn because you care and are interested

>when you leave school they give you a piece of paper that asks you if YOU think you are good enough yet

A recent study published by Japan’s Cabinet Office examined the country’s more than 18,000 child suicides from 1972–2013 and found that 131 of those suicides occurred on September 1—32 more suicides than the next most-frequent date of death.

Mapping for frequency, the study found distinctly larger numbers of suicides at the end of August and beginning of September, as well as during the middle of April. The former coincides with schools reopening after summer vacation; the latter, as schools reopen after spring break.

The numbers are glaring. Japan’s overall suicide rate is roughly 60 percent higher than the global average, a 2014 World Health Organization report noted. In 2014 alone, 25,000 Japanese people took their own lives—roughly 70 suicides every day.

Last year, suicide was the leading cause of death for Japanese children between the ages of 10 and 19. Among teens and young adults ages 10–24, there are roughly 4,600 suicide deaths in each year, and another 157,000 instances of hospitalization for self-inflicted injuries.

https://archive.is/pVdXW

>be kid in Japan (usa school is basically the same but in a different style of torture)

>SAMURAI FATHER SAY I RACK DISIPRINE!

>HONOR FOR YOUR FAMILY

>SMASH SPOON INTO RICE POT LID

>BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG GOOD MORNING SON ITS 1AM TIME FOR AUSHWITZ I MEAN SCHOOL

>sprint for school bus

>miss

>take human sardine train instead

>make it to school

>be expected to work harder than life allows it

>father calls me on moshi moshi walkie talkie

>NO SON, DISHONORABLE NOT HARD WORK ENOUGH

>SAMMMMMMUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRAAAAAAI

>PREPARE SUSHI EXATRY RIKE ME SON

>mixing rice and chopping up fish on my school desk

>teacher drops mt.fugi made out of book reports and homework on my desk

>fish juice and undercooked rice dripping off sides of desk

>NO SON, AGAIN!

>NO STUDENT, AGAIN!

>START ALL OVER! -FATHER

>START ALL OVER! -TEACHER

>all work is too overwhelming

>can't keep up

>wake me up inside

>CAN'T WAKE UP

>SAVE ME FROM THE NOTHING IVE BECOMMEEEE

>small highlight of life is when perverted big sister rapes me

>suddenly summer break comes along

>life becomes bliss

>suddenly summer is almost over

>can not handle leaving paradise and going back to hell

>commit sudoku

>"Anime sure is interesting. Because you can tell a lot about how Japan really works from watching it."

>"Think about all of anime."

>"ALL of it: All the endless technicolor fun, all the sex, and all the violence."

>"Now imagine the opposite of anime."

>"That's Japan."

why college is scam

might be a good idea to watch stefan molyneux's videos on no college for white man, and other "don't go to college" videos

College Student Earns 4.0 GPA, Then Drops Out: "You Are Being Scammed!"

Billy Williams just finished his first college semester and did so with the all-impressive 4.0 GPA. Instead of celebrating his accomplishments with friends and family, he decided to drop out of college entirely.

Billy made a facebook post that is now going viral in which he explains his reasoning for dropping out:

“Now that I’ve finished my first semester I think it’s safe to say… FUCK COLLEGE. Now before all you of you go batshit crazy… I have a few points to make.

1. Yes I have dropped out after finishing my first semester (with a 4.0 GPA). And it’s one of the best choices I’ve ever made. Not because I am averse to learning, but actually the exact opposite.

2. YOU ARE BEING SCAMMED. You may not see it today or tomorrow, but you will see it some day. Heck you may have already seen it if you’ve been through college. You are being put thousands into debt to learn things you will never even use. Wasting 4 years of your life to be stuck at a paycheck that grows slower than the rate of inflation. Paying $200 for a $6 textbook. Being taught by teacher’s who have never done what they’re teaching. Average income has increased 5x over the last 40 years while cost of college has increased 18x. You’re spending thousands of dollars to learn information you won’t ever even use just to get a piece of paper. I once even had an engineer tell me “I learned more in my first 30 days working than in my 5 years of college.” What does that tell you about this system? There are about a million more ways you’re being scammed into this.. just watch the video i’m gonna comment if you want to see more.

3. Colleges are REQUIRING people to spend money taking gen. ed. courses to learn about the quadratic formula (and other shit they will never use) when they could be giving classes on MARRIAGE and HOW TO DO YOUR TAXES.

4. Gosh there are so many more reasons I could add, but just comment if you disagree or have reasons to add. I’d love to add to the discussion. TAG a friend in college, Tag your parents, share this if you agree, disagree. Let’s just talk about it. Heck post a picture of yourself flipping off something you think is unjust in our society.”

Billy is right too that the price of college continues to soar.

In 2015, Harvard’s annual tuition and fees (not including room and board) would cost a person $45,278, which is more than 17 times the 1971-72 cost. If annual increases of tuition had simply tracked the inflation rate since 1971, 2016’s tuition would be just $15,189.

http://archive.is/ffFq6

Quotes from anons:

>So much of this makes me glad I graduated college in the early 90s.

>go watch peter molyneux's videos on college and his "no college for white men" video.

>Having went to university way back when also means I'm not left in crippling debt for the rest of my life. I was able to procure Pell grants for the first 75 hours and the rest was paid through scholarships and a loan that I paid back within 2 years of graduation and still could afford graduate school.

>Even if the money weren't an issue, I wouldn't set foot near a university these days. They're no longer institutes of higher learning, but cesspools of indoctrination and money grabbing. Keep them in debt, keep them paying the interest on those loans, keep refinancing them at "lower rates" just to keep the principle alive at all cost.

>My kids? They will learn trades, like their grandfathers. University is off the table until academia is once again in the hands of teachers and out of the hands of financiers.

>It's a good thread. The more information the better, especially given to those who are considering college.

https://archive.is/0CfSy

https://archive.is/6tUoR

>Maxwell said he didn’t want to waste his parents’ money on college work that held little or no interest to him.

>several male students return home without degrees and often with a sense of disappointment and despair.”

anyone been getting flashbacks to pathological liars trying to fool you into horrible things happening to you?

https://archive.is/o1M7S

(previous /x/ thread)

https://archive.is/MiPUA

(exGATEers thread)

https://archive.is/qQkpC

https://archive.is/wced0

https://archive.is/d0pID

https://archive.is/nNVa3

https://archive.is/WWpf9

https://8ch.net/gatebreakers/

I can't believe some of the lies I remember people telling me and the things I heard them say to others.

>be in early elementary school

>special scientist doctor dentist lady comes TO the school as a "field trip" where we don't go anywhere

>woopdy fucking doo

>tells us all that our teeth are indestructible and cant break because of the enamel

>raise hand and ask "but then how do cavities happen?"

>literally ignores me and quickly says "next question!" really fast and picks someone else

>in the next few weeks every other kid in the class showing up with severe mouth injuries because they believed them and tried to eat rocks or something

>all the parents had to pay thousands of dollars to dentists to fix their busted fucking teeth

>wonder how I managed to avoid believing her

then

>later

>some plumber proffessional comes and tries to convince us that garbage disposals in kitchen sinks are totally safe because they are only designed to break up food and that your hand can't actually get cut up

>raise hand and has them why it can cut carrots but not fingers

>guy bullshits his way out of answering because I'm like 5-12 years old and they think I'm retarded

>thank god that nobody fell for it, nobody comes in missing fingers.

way later

>person tries to convince my friend that dna evidence only lasts a few minutes at crime scenes

>then tries to convince them that it's incredibly easy to commit murder and get away with it so that my friend they aren't interested in being criminals and the person was just trying to convince them how it would be so "easy" would do something stupid and be dumb enough to be more careless.

>friend tells the person they are retarded and can't believe that they aren't in jail yet

>person says "nope! never been caught! I'm a pro! trust me"

another way way later

>overhear some person talking to someone about sexual education related topics

>telling this other person who is worried about getting sick with something that "it's very rare to get HIV"

>"you would have to sleep with 90 people to get a 1% risk chance of getting HIV"

>"the chances of getting it are less than 1%" he says in the very next sentance

>the worried persons friend steps up and asks clearly upset with the guy "then why is HIV such a problem? why does it spread so easily?"

>at that moment the liar guy steps back and looks visibly nervous and chickens out making some half impossible to hear mumbled excuse and walks away REALLY fucking fast.

>the friend tells their friend "should I call 911?" but I guess they didn't. I was tempted to look up the non-emergency number and tell them so they could report the suspicious activity.

another I remembered from early on

>be really little

>everyone thinks I have severe mental problems

>have some, but really not justifiable for the way they are always treating me

>get treated like some kind of monster even though "hue hue OCD ADD"

>always dosing me up on prozac and ritalin and other drugs

>always have severe dry mouth, terrible headaches, eat very little food because no appetite, yet somehow extremely fat back then.

>constantly feel retarded and can't think straight. hell on earth.

>tell my psych/doc/therapist asshole "please let me get off all these drugs. I felt better before I was taking them."

>they tell me that I can't stop right away or I'll get hurt and need to slowly reduce my dosage over several years

>immediately think "this is bullshit, they just want me on them forever"

>beg and plead with them to reduce my dosage so I can ween off and feel better and just be free

>"okay anon we will do what makes you happy. just relax, whatever makes you feel good"

>leave the room and overhear them saying "Okay so we're going to increase the dosage of anons medication but put it into a smaller pill"

>instantly furious with seething rage

>go home and flush all pills and never take their damn drugs ever again

>feel much better in a week, much much better in a month, ate better, and got healthy

>never trust mental health "professionals" ever again

I also remember alot of people trying to get me stuck in logical traps where they sell their logic as fact rather than appearing to try to convince me since they are aware that people are resistant to others openly trying to convince them of things. basically they tell you that there is only one factual way of going about something so that you make a huge assumption and never gain philosophical ground because you assume better logic doesn't exist. there are many types of logic and some are better than others, but there isn't really "just one way" to go about everything. everything has many ways. understand? I'm not trying to be vague, it's just that these things apply to many many different things in your day to day life. any one specific example would be limiting to the overall understanding.

thread archive

https://archive.is/yfugt

>>84880

>many normalfags are that stupid, but the ones who give that advice that are smart enough to know it's shit give it on purpose because they enjoy how it makes the person they are giving the advice to feel, which is hopeless. it's actually a real life demoralization tactic called "hopeless advice demoralization" and in some cases they do actually know exactly what they are doing when they give this bad advice because they enjoy the results, be it deeper more painful soul crushing depression, or the bottling up of pain and suffering and emotions that result in an outburst that they watch with a bag of popcorn in their hands when it happens.

I highly doubt many normalfags do that. There is always the occasional sadist who just likes to hurt people with shit like that, but there aren't many of these sadists and manipulators around. Most people who are sadists are also lacking empathy, have a high time-preference, a low overall performance, and little control over their emotions. If they were healthier, they wouldn't get off on the suffering of others. The Ted Bundy-types are rare. Speaking of Ted Bundy, his intelligence and charisma was blown out of proportion. He was intelligent and charming, but he wasn't an evil mastermind.

No, the people who give this advice are probably just lazy and lacking empathy. Telling someone to "just deal with it" would technically work if he followed the advice, so that whoever gave it can tell himself he did what he had to do and give himself a pat on the shoulder for trying to help someone who didn't want to help himself. It's rarely good advice, in fact, I cannot personally remember it ever was (at the very least give someone a positive outlook to cling to instead of telling him to get one for himself). Who gives this advice the most? Teachers, and as you said, they are hardly interested in solving problems. I know some were, but too many just want there to be order in the class so they can teach properly (or whatever they have been told was proper teaching).

My advice, don't assume too many people are sociopaths or evil masterminds. It doesn't line up with the plain facts (almost everyone loves his mother, trivial but true), and it's my conviction that bad people are defective people. Why, let's just say is my personal impression after studying more war criminals and serial killers than I'd like to count, and it lines up with what philosophers from Plato onward said about the nature of goodness, namely, that goodness means something lives up to its nature, while badness is a privation.

>>84907

I hate to tell you this anon but you seem to be talking to a spammer that archived a thread that only contains his posts. His reason for this is unknown. Please note that this isn't the only board that this topic has been posted on.

>>84908

Watch out for this one. This thread was posted in a few places and they have some kind of problem with it. It's really odd considering the thread is really good and the only people who I could see being upset with it are the people who are causing the problems that the very thread itself is about.

>>84907

Your intentions are good but I hate to tell you it's actually more complicated then that. Yes, there are people who just have bad attitudes but good intentions, but always remember that human beings are the scariest monsters.

>>84880

>it's the snow fault that it's cold, it's not my fault I don't want to put on a jacket!

>it's the rain's fault that it's I'm wet, it's not my fault I don't want to use an umbrella!

>it's your fault I went ice skating and fell!

>it's not my fault that I get fat while eating diarrhea instead of cooking food that I can enjoy

>why should I stand up for myself when being threatened? someone should protect me!

>why should I defend myself when being attacked?

>why should I step away from burning hot things?

I remember this shit thread on /r9k/. The funny thing is that yes you are right, normalfags really are stupid, but if you incels were any smarter than them then you wouldn't be incels, you would be too smart to be victims of this degenerate society, and no, don't pretend to be a volcel or something saying "I-I actually made this choice for myself!", because you're not, I know you fags like to pretend like it's a choice for you or something and you are just rejecting roasties left and right but you're not.

The way you interpret the advice normalfags give you also shows exactly what your level of intelligence is. When it's snowing, doesn't it occur to you that you could put on a fucking jacket if you're so cold? If a problem can be fixed then why would you keep blaming something else while continuing to suffer? If you're such a weak creature that you can't even do whatever it takes to survive then why do you even deserve to live? In a way the normalfags become right, it's your own fault that you are freezing because you don't want to do anything about it, you choose to be a victim rather than defend yourself.

With a whole generation of weak manchildren that want to be babied and taken care of by someone else, it's no wonder that on one hand we have so many national-socialists religiously waiting for the second coming of big daddy Hitler to make real socialism for wypipo, and on the other hand you have antifa SJWs who practically want the same thing, just with some 21st century Lenin instead and to also include niggers and trannies in their magical utopia.

>>84928

He posted it on /r9k/, /polk/ as well as /pol/. It is as if he is doing a sociology paper on incels and is trying to find the which groups on image boards are most likely to agree with the sentiments posted. Why perform the superfluous act of archiving each thread before anyone else posts rather than archiving just one thread? It doesn't make sense.

>>84925

>it's the snow fault that it's cold, it's not my fault I don't want to put on a jacket!

>it's the rain's fault that it's I'm wet, it's not my fault I don't want to use an umbrella!

>it's your fault I went ice skating and fell!

>it's not my fault that I get fat while eating diarrhea instead of cooking food that I can enjoy

>why should I stand up for myself when being threatened? someone should protect me!

>why should I defend myself when being attacked?

>why should I step away from burning hot things?

Why did you change what I wrote?

>I remember this shit thread on /r9k/. The funny thing is that yes you are right, normalfags really are stupid, but if you incels were any smarter than them then you wouldn't be incels, you would be too smart to be victims of this degenerate society, and no, don't pretend to be a volcel or something saying "I-I actually made this choice for myself!", because you're not, I know you fags like to pretend like it's a choice for you or something and you are just rejecting roasties left and right but you're not.

Projecting much? do you not understand that normalfags don't just give this bad advice to others who aren't normalfags, they give this same advice to each other too.

>The way you interpret the advice normalfags give you also shows exactly what your level of intelligence is. When it's snowing, doesn't it occur to you that you could put on a fucking jacket if you're so cold? If a problem can be fixed then why would you keep blaming something else while continuing to suffer? If you're such a weak creature that you can't even do whatever it takes to survive then why do you even deserve to live? In a way the normalfags become right, it's your own fault that you are freezing because you don't want to do anything about it, you choose to be a victim rather than defend yourself.

You're conveniently taking metaphorical examples literally, and taking literal words as metaphors. Not really sure why you would do this.

>With a whole generation of weak manchildren that want to be babied and taken care of by someone else, it's no wonder that on one hand we have so many national-socialists religiously waiting for the second coming of big daddy Hitler to make real socialism for wypipo, and on the other hand you have antifa SJWs who practically want the same thing, just with some 21st century Lenin instead and to also include niggers and trannies in their magical utopia.

Be honest with me. What is your point?

>>84933

>He posted it on /r9k/, /polk/ as well as /pol/. It is as if he is doing a sociology paper on incels and is trying to find the which groups on image boards are most likely to agree with the sentiments posted. Why perform the superfluous act of archiving each thread before anyone else posts rather than archiving just one thread? It doesn't make sense.

Anyone is welcome to look at the conversation I had with you on /polk/. You're nothing but a nasty troll. Go do something else with your life.

starts here

>>>/polk/30892

>>84948

>You're nothing but a nasty troll.

Fuck off back to your liberal arts college and shoot it up.

>>84953

>go shoot up a liberal arts college

But ain't that the plan?

>>84948

>Why did you change what I wrote?

You're conveniently taking metaphorical examples literally, and taking literal words as metaphors. Not really sure why you would do this.

>Be honest with me. What is your point?

If you're too dumb to comprehend what I wrote, then forget about it.

>/polk/

/polk/ is dead, it's just shitting grounds for spammers.

The unspoken truth about school shooters is that they aren't usually bullied kids who snapped. That's a convenient and reasonable sounding explanation that gets views and clicks. School shooters tend to simply be sociopaths. The Columbine shooters were well-liked and popular. They planned their massacre well ahead of time. They didn't go after jocks and niggers; they originally just wanted to plant a bomb and beat Timothy McVeigh's high score. In almost every high school shooting, it was other misfits and bullied outcasts who tended to get shot rather than the oppressive Chads and Staceys.

It's correct, though, that blaming guns is opportunistic vulture politicking no less divorced from the facts than "muh bullying." These same faggots who nod their head respectfully and raise their eyebrows with grabe goncern about victim-blaming the survivors want to wrap themselves in an illusion of safety by passing weapons restriction laws dishonestly pretending they don't want to undermine the letter or spirit of America's 2nd Amendment.

>>84963

Hi /leftpol/!

>>84965

>/leftpol/ would care about preserving the 2nd amendment and realize the futility of blaming guns

You could at least try to look like you aren't trolling for Molyneux screencaps.

>>84968

They are pro gun ownership. They're all waiting for the day of the revolution. Nearly every single day there will be a thread of someone mentally masturbating to his thoughts of publicly executing porkies(chads and his boss) with his fellow comrades in arms.

>>84968

That's just liberals. Like all real socialists, our own domestic leftards love guns because guns enable them to fulfill their subhuman desires of murdering millions of innocent people for the atrocious crime of trying to earn a bit of wealth. They need guns to follow in the footsteps of their heroes Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, Mao, Che and all those other worthless pieces of shit in their quest for real judeo-enslaverism socialism.

>>84984

Not surprising, nazis are fucking socialists after all.

>>84975

>>84977

The socialist is only pro gun for as long as they are not in power. Once they are in power, the party will say "the war is over, workers turn in your arms!" and like good little lefties they will.

>>84933

>It is as if he is doing a sociology paper on incels and is trying to find the which groups on image boards are most likely to agree with the sentiments posted.

Then he's wasting his time, because the answer is all of them. Of course he's wasting his time by taking sociology to begin with.

>>84977

>Like all real socialists, our own domestic leftards love guns because guns enable them to fulfill their subhuman desires of murdering millions of innocent people for the atrocious crime of trying to earn a bit of wealth.

Some of them did some scummy as fuck things to get rich, and almost all of the ultra-wealthy aren't the real producers, in the Randian sense. They're lawyers and business majors, whereas the producers are engineers, scientists and mathematicians. Most engineers are paid well by the standards of the average person, but their salary is a pittance compared to the actual amount of value they generate.

>>84953

Yuck, liberal college? No, it's obvious you're trolling.

>>84956

Definitely trolling. You just copied everything I said because you have no argument.

>>84963

>/pol/ vistor flag (((TRUST ME GUYS I'M FROM /POL/)))

>but believe all these fucking lies I want to feed you

fuck off shill

>>84948

>You're nothing but a nasty troll.

>>84993

>Yuck

How old are you? 8?

>>84994

If you want to believe that affirmed facts are lies you may do so at your own peril and cry "S-s-s-shill! REEE! REEEEEEE! REERUHREERUHREEREERRUHREEEEEE!" But when the memes and implications are done and you're finished hemming and hawing about bullies and betas, the fact will remain that these losers shooting up schools aren't generally nerds who snap but rather lunatics/ordinary kids made crazy by psychiatric """medicine""" with access to weapons.

>>84993

Ok, I get it now, you're salty that bitches aren't fucking you because you're still a fucking kid. You just hate seeing the chicks in your class get fucked by the older kids.

>>85014

you sound exactly like the news who wants everyone yo just believe that these people randomly decided to just shoot up schools for no reason at all. like they just woke up one day and had their breakfast and said "HURR DURRR IMA DO THIS TODAY"

nobody believes your bullshit.

>>85026

poor b8 m8

>>85041

Mental illness and drug misuse are reasons. They just aren't the sympathetic, logically motivated reasons you want to believe in.

>nobody believes your bullshit

Except the people actually investigating and researching these incidents in structurally valid way, don't forget that. Gonna say their point of view outranks yours, anonymous faggot.

>>85044

>Mental illness and drug misuse are reasons. They just aren't the sympathetic, logically motivated reasons you want to believe in.

Drugged up losers who get drunk all the time don't always randomly decide to go shoot up schools. drug users are motivated by their need for more drugs so they do what they can to get more money and schools are not a good source of money for them. Your excuse is pathetic.

>Except the people actually investigating and researching these incidents in structurally valid way, don't forget that. Gonna say their point of view outranks yours, anonymous faggot.

Oh great an appeal to authority and education shill tactic, How am I not surprised? You have to remember that the people who run the education system are also in a position of authority and have an education but are obviously unqualified and undeserving of such a position proven by the fact that so many of these horrible events have taken place, abuse of the students and their stories, not even to mention the ones that lose their minds and commit murder. "oooh someone has a piece of paper the said they're important because they went to school so you should listen to them and your words and thoughts and ideas have no value!" That's not even worth a "nice try" from me.

Why the hell may I ask- are you so damn obsessed with this thread and convincing everyone in it that school shooters are nothing more than what the mainstream fake news media tells us they are by hammering it into our heads day after day for years and years? Why are you here?

>>85044

define mental illness

>>85051

I ain't even talking about alcohol and crack, sperg, pay attention. I specifically referred to pharmaceutical malpractice. However, when mental disease and substance abuse intersect their comorbidity does associate strongly with acts of violence.

>Your excuse is pathetic

It's not an excuse; it's a credible explanation that you're intellectually unequipped to appreciate. Nothing more pathetic than a faggot way out of his depth taking on a condescending tone to compensate.

>Oh great an appeal to authority and education shill tactic

The appeal to authority does not apply when deferring to the judgement of qualified, vetted expertise. You don't know what you're talking about and have no business pulling fallacy cards. Period.

>You have to remember that the people who run the education system are also in a position of authority and have an education but are obviously unqualified and undeserving of such a position proven by the fact that so many of these horrible events have taken place, abuse of the students and their stories, not even to mention the ones that lose their minds and commit murder

Oh there's definitely incompetence among the educational profession and administrative class. Zero Tolerance is a failure and teachers' unions are cancer. Doesn't mean that even for all of the damage this causes to the students it has a causative link with school shootings. Correlation is not causation. Also, the fact that the teachers and principals in public schools are unable or unwilling to implement solutions doesn't mean that there isn't empirical, scientifically corroborated evidence regarding what those solutions ought to be. The problem comes from professionals choosing to adhere to their vision of the world instead of embracing the facts presented to them over and over again by researchers with credentials in the fields that can provide help. They pick and choose from psychological and sociological theories that jive with their social and political ideals instead of going with what's actually proven to work.

>"oooh someone has a piece of paper the said they're important because they went to school so you should listen to them and your words and thoughts and ideas have no value!"

Exactly the case, anon. Somebody has been schooled and experienced in a field of technical expertise for much longer than you and vetted by knowledgeable peers to have a recognized opinion. Yours, on the other hand, doesn't carry the same weight. A gas station superintendent doesn't get to have the same credibility in discussing fluid dynamics as an MIT professor just because he can do some of his own plumbing. Deal with it.

>That's not even worth a "nice try" from me.

You are not qualified to adopting such a tone anyhow.

>Why the hell may I ask- are you so damn obsessed with this thread

Because you're fucking wrong and pointing that fact out is a good enough reward in and of itself.

>what the mainstream fake news media tells us they are by hammering it into our heads day after day for years and years?

You don't pay attention, do you? The MSM parrots and promotes the bullshit narrative that school shooters were incels who felt entitled to women and bullied kids who were pushed too far because that's what gets John and Jane Jackoff to tune in and get invested. It gets them as close as they'll ever feel to living through the plot of a thriller movie. People in the media used to discuss the role of mental illness because it was a way for one of the boomers to shit on Ronald Reagan for presiding over the closure of sanitariums, but now that Donald Trump is trying to draw attention to mental disease they're burying that discussion just to spite him.

>>85102

Anything that can disrupt the normal thinking, reasoning, behavioral, and emotional state of a person can be defined as a mental illness, but for mental diseases most associated with violent episodes I specifically consider schizophrenia, bioplar disorder, sociopathy, or forms of psychosis.

Another important thing to remember, though, is the iatrogenic creation of mental disease. Putting kids on everything from Ritalin to Rogaine with a SSRI on top and expecting it all get sorted out in the CSF is neglect bordering on abuse.

Most mentally ill people aren't violent. Most bullied people aren't violent. Most properly medicated sick people aren't violent. Put a juvenile brain under external and internal distress and then light a match in the form of a blithe, expedient diagnosis and treatment? Fireworks.

>>85132

>I ain't even talking about alcohol and crack, sperg, pay attention. I specifically referred to pharmaceutical malpractice. However, when mental disease and substance abuse intersect their comorbidity does associate strongly with acts of violence.

What's your point? what are you trying to say?

>It's not an excuse; it's a credible explanation that you're intellectually unequipped to appreciate. Nothing more pathetic than a faggot way out of his depth taking on a condescending tone to compensate.

Maybe I'm not understanding or maybe you're doing a terrible job of supporting your side of the argument.

>The appeal to authority does not apply when deferring to the judgement of qualified, vetted expertise. You don't know what you're talking about and have no business pulling fallacy cards. Period.

Don't accuse someone of pulling fallacy cards when you're guilty of doing the same thing. You're throwing my reply to you in the trash without even considering it or judging me for my argument simply because you only respect people's words if they have been granted legitimacy by people who we all already know are severely corrupt.

>Oh there's definitely incompetence among the educational profession and administrative class. Zero Tolerance is a failure and teachers' unions are cancer. Doesn't mean that even for all of the damage this causes to the students it has a causative link with school shootings. Correlation is not causation.

That's true. Correlation is not always causation but it would be an otherworldly level of stupid to deny the fact that there are things happening here for very obvious reasons. Children are being physically and emotionally abused by a corrupt education system and that stress and anger and suffering is just too much for some of them, and they become murderers. For you to deny that is an inexcusable crime towards all the children who suffer that corrupt and abusive system every day and to deny the problem is to deny the possibility of finding a solution. Your ignorance is a disease and ignorant people like you are exactly the ones who are running the education system and causing these problems in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised if the only reason you're here is to damage control the realizations and facts that have been made apparent in this thread so that you can protect your pension.

>>85132

>Exactly the case, anon. Somebody has been schooled and experienced in a field of technical expertise for much longer than you and vetted by knowledgeable peers to have a recognized opinion. Yours, on the other hand, doesn't carry the same weight. A gas station superintendent doesn't get to have the same credibility in discussing fluid dynamics as an MIT professor just because he can do some of his own plumbing. Deal with it.

And the childrens voices? Should we all ignore their cries for help just because they do not have a degree in bullshittery? Are their voices worthless because the screams of agony from their souls carry less weight than a lawyer or a politician to you? How many more children's voices will we ignore? how many more children will we leave trapped in a dark and bottomless pit of helplessness and allow to become monsters just to satisfy your ego? It will be a cold day in hell before I turn a deaf ear to these poor suffering children perpetually victimized by your disgusting arrogance and endless foolish ignorance.

<That's not even worth a "nice try" from me.

>You are not qualified to adopting such a tone anyhow.

And your ears are not qualified to receive the vibrations from my breath you soulless abomination. I spit upon your soul.

<Why the hell may I ask- are you so damn obsessed with this thread

>Because you're fucking wrong and pointing that fact out is a good enough reward in and of itself.

You haven't proven that, but you seem content with making yourself believe that. You rather debate why you should or shouldn't listen to my ideas than debating my ideas themselves because you can not debate the truth. You have No facts and No argument to go by so you rather invest your cowardly and futile efforts in pedantic semantic bullshit.

>>85132

<what the mainstream fake news media tells us they are by hammering it into our heads day after day for years and years?

>You don't pay attention, do you? The MSM parrots and promotes the bullshit narrative that school shooters were incels who felt entitled to women and bullied kids who were pushed too far because that's what gets John and Jane Jackoff to tune in and get invested. It gets them as close as they'll ever feel to living through the plot of a thriller movie. People in the media used to discuss the role of mental illness because it was a way for one of the boomers to shit on Ronald Reagan for presiding over the closure of sanitariums, but now that Donald Trump is trying to draw attention to mental disease they're burying that discussion just to spite him.

Nice attempt at deflecting by misquoting what I said and then intentionally mis-answering it. Here's what I really asked you.

>Why the hell may I ask- are you so damn obsessed with this thread and convincing everyone in it that school shooters are nothing more than what the mainstream fake news media tells us they are by hammering it into our heads day after day for years and years? Why are you here?

You are in this thread desperately damage controlling and parroting the runny dogshit lies the mainstream fake news media feeds the public every day. Why?

>Most mentally ill people aren't violent. Most bullied people aren't violent. Most properly medicated sick people aren't violent. Put a juvenile brain under external and internal distress and then light a match in the form of a blithe, expedient diagnosis and treatment? Fireworks.

Most mentally ill people aren't violent, but more and more children are being abused by a corrupt education system until they become mentally ill. Even then, more and more school shootings are happening. It's becomming a much more common disaster. If you torture huge amounts of children every single day for years and years, it's not a surprise that more and more of them break and go crazy and commit horrible crimes. I like it how right at the end you tried to appear like you were saying the same thing as me after being a deceptive shill the entire post.

shills have no comeback.

>>84925

>I remember this shit thread on /r9k/. The funny thing is that yes you are right, normalfags really are stupid, but if you incels were any smarter than them then you wouldn't be incels

Thread over, we can all go home now.

>>85292

>the thread is over because someone mentioned normalfags

hue hue?

>>84883

How come I have never saw that Kids in the Hall skit before? They were ahead of their time.

To be honest, there are many things we can blame:

1. The mainstream media is dying and they need everything they can use to get viewership back. This includes school shootings, which they always make it seem that the shooter was a sort of anti-hero; one who had troubles with bullies and the such. This in turn causes other kids to do copycat shootings, as they saw that the last shooter was basically a star.

2. The education system is trash. You can't just expect kids to sit 6-7 hours a day loading them with information and then give them medication as they have "disabilities." Teachers are overworked and not paid enough, thus they don't really care what happens around the school.

3. Have you ever seen parenting today? Most parents believe that their child is special and deserves to be pampered, even if they did something wrong. This leads to the kids you see today: whiny, pretentious kids who thinks the world revolves around them.

You know what kind of school shootings you never hear about? Private school shootings. They dont fucking happen because faculty are paid to give a shit, and the school's reputation depends on no bullying. Privatize everything free market now

>>85305

>How come I have never saw that Kids in the Hall skit before? They were ahead of their time.

was probably (((suppressed))) as one of the lesser or "never" shown episodes

>>85322

>To be honest, there are many things we can blame:

>1. The mainstream media is dying and they need everything they can use to get viewership back. This includes school shootings, which they always make it seem that the shooter was a sort of anti-hero; one who had troubles with bullies and the such. This in turn causes other kids to do copycat shootings, as they saw that the last shooter was basically a star.

>2. The education system is trash. You can't just expect kids to sit 6-7 hours a day loading them with information and then give them medication as they have "disabilities." Teachers are overworked and not paid enough, thus they don't really care what happens around the school.

>3. Have you ever seen parenting today? Most parents believe that their child is special and deserves to be pampered, even if they did something wrong. This leads to the kids you see today: whiny, pretentious kids who thinks the world revolves around them.

>>85323

>You know what kind of school shootings you never hear about? Private school shootings. They dont fucking happen because faculty are paid to give a shit, and the school's reputation depends on no bullying. Privatize everything free market now

Thanks anons I will be adding your posts to the future thread. as for the private school thing I just want you to know that many private schools are just essentially "paid public" schools. It's usually an even more harsh and twisted and evil system than typical public school. You wouldn't expect it, but it's really bad. I'm sure in the grand whole view of things that there do exist good public and private schools but I don't know If I have ever heard of those.

>>85322

I just wanted to add that I'm going to include a modification to #3 so that they look like this.

>3. Have you ever seen parenting today? Most parents believe that their child is special and deserves to be pampered, even if they did something wrong. This leads to the kids you see today: whiny, pretentious kids who thinks the world revolves around them. (These kids more often than not end up becoming the bullies who seem to be able to get away with everything, or those rude girls who usually have a rude girl leader in charge, like a bitchy cheerleader team from one of those school movies) sometimes, instead of the parents being ignorant enough to believe that their children are perfect they simply believe the opposite and blame their child for everything without giving them a chance to tell their side of the story, and often don't even believe them if they do.

>>85188

>What's your point? what are you trying to say?

That you're a retard who can't follow a very simple and direct argument.

>Maybe I'm not understanding or maybe you're doing a terrible job of supporting your side of the argument.

*Points to previous answer*

>Don't accuse someone of pulling fallacy cards when you're guilty of doing the same thing.

I'm not. Keep struggling.

>You're throwing my reply to you in the trash without even considering it or judging me for my argument

Because you aren't qualified.

>simply because you only respect people's words if they have been granted legitimacy by people who we all already know are severely corrupt.

The systemic process furnishes peer review and empirical research is reliable. Your desperate "muh corruption" excuse is just you knowing you can't compete with that and attacking justified authority to compensate. Go sit in a corner.

>Correlation is not always causation but it would be an otherworldly level of stupid to deny the fact that there are things happening here for very obvious reasons

Naw, what's otherwordly stupid is you taking the easy face-value explanation instead of what sober minded investigation actually bears out.

>Children are being physically and emotionally abused by a corrupt education system and that stress and anger and suffering is just too much for some of them, and they become murderers

Nope. Try again.

> For you to deny that is an inexcusable crime towards all the children who suffer that corrupt and abusive system every day and to deny the problem is to deny the possibility of finding a solution

Naw, that's just your whiny emotional appeal. You care less about helping kids than getting vengeance against the system you blame for turning you into a loser.

>Your ignorance is a disease

HAHAHAHAHA

>ignorant people like you are exactly the ones who are running the education system and causing these problems in the first place.

Nope! I'm the one trying to get them to listen to sensible criticism instead of shopping for theories to continue their Progressive agenda, but it's cute you feel like you're qualified to debate me when my arguments make that very clear and you assert the opposite.

>>85189

>And the childrens voices?

Better remedied by people who know what they're talking about than manchildren nursing a grudge like you.

>a degree in bullshittery?

It's not bullshit just because you're a neckbeard and can't into academic expertise.

> Are their voices worthless because the screams of agony from their souls carry less weight than a lawyer or a politician to you?

What maudlin bathos. Lawyers and politicians are not the people whose insight I'm promoting. By all means keep assailing strawmen. Your desperate sophistry is amusing.

>How many more children's voices will we ignore? how many more children will we leave trapped in a dark and bottomless pit of helplessness and allow to become monsters just to satisfy your ego? It will be a cold day in hell before I turn a deaf ear to these poor suffering children perpetually victimized by your disgusting arrogance and endless foolish ignorance.

Your benighted dunning-Kruger tantrum is only making things worse, spaz boy, stand in the corner.

>And your ears are not qualified to receive the vibrations from my breath

Good thing this is a textual mediume!

>you soulless abomination. I spit upon your soul

Just grab a piece from Wal-Mart and take vengeance on your old middle school, wizard, ya know ya wanna.

>You haven't proven that

I have

>but you seem content with making yourself believe that

Nope, not "belief." Knowledge.

>You rather debate why you should or shouldn't listen to my ideas than debating my ideas themselves because you can not debate the truth

It's more that I'm not in the habit of tossing pearls to swine. I don't debate your "truth" for the same reason I don't debate creationists or peak oil retards.

>You have No facts and No argument to go by so you rather invest your cowardly and futile efforts in pedantic semantic bullshit.

The fact is you're a retard in over your head and the argument is you aren't equipped to reign in on this subject. Also that's not what "semantic" means, but don't stop using words you don't understand while you're behind. It seems to be your hobby.

>>85190

>Nice attempt at deflecting by misquoting what I said and then intentionally mis-answering it

Shut up, faggot.

>You are in this thread desperately damage controlling

<M-M-MUH DAMAGE CONTROL! SHILLS! SHILLS! REEERUHREERUHREERUHREEREEREEEEEEEEEEE!

>You are in this thread desperately damage controlling

Yet another thing you pretend to get but don't. Hilarious.

>and parroting the runny dogshit lies the mainstream fake news media feeds the public every day.

The opposite. You're the one doing that, actually.

>but more and more children are being abused by a corrupt education system until they become mentally ill.

What's the proof? That you're still pissed about being a loser in high school?

>Even then, more and more school shootings are happening. It's becomming a much more common disaster. If you torture huge amounts of children every single day for years and years, it's not a surprise that more and more of them break and go crazy and commit horrible crimes

Except that's not what's happening. That's what you want to believe. I can only assume you were given shit as a kid like most of us but because you're a class S autist, you could never let it go.

>I like it how right at the end you tried to appear like you were saying the same thing as me after being a deceptive shill the entire post.

Nah, that's really just you being incompetent. I guess one thing we can agree on is that the education system truly failed you.

>>85291

It's amazing how you think you're trumpeting the Gospel truth against a legion of shills determined to undermine you when in reality you're embarrassing yourself in front of somebody better informed than you are who isn't taking kindly to your self-righteous and entitled whining.

>>85417

>What's your point? what are you trying to say?

<That you're a retard who can't follow a very simple and direct argument.

Oh you got me, I'm so defeated now because you suck at grammer while pushing your sick and twisted agenda. they really don't pay you enough for this at shill headquarters.

>Maybe I'm not understanding or maybe you're doing a terrible job of supporting your side of the argument.

<*Points to previous answer*

if there was a previous answer you would specifically link to that post and quote it, but we can all see you're a liar. if you could prove me wrong, then why didn't you?

>Don't accuse someone of pulling fallacy cards when you're guilty of doing the same thing.

<I'm not. Keep struggling.

But you are! Why lie when anyone can go back and read all your previous posts?

>You're throwing my reply to you in the trash without even considering it or judging me for my argument

<Because you aren't qualified.

By your own logic, neither are you. It doesn't matter how many qualifications you say you have, because to me and to everyone else you're just another anonymous poster. Here we are meant to judge each other by the merit of our message and argument. So far your argument has been nonsensical bullshit, and a poor and desperate attempt to wholeheartedly disagree with all the information contained in this thread. Why would that be? we all know you're a shill and you suck at your job and you suck so fucking bad it's even so sad that it's funny

>>85417

>simply because you only respect people's words if they have been granted legitimacy by people who we all already know are severely corrupt.

<The systemic process furnishes peer review and empirical research is reliable. Your desperate "muh corruption" excuse is just you knowing you can't compete with that and attacking justified authority to compensate. Go sit in a corner.

So now you're arguing that authority and positions of power and all "empirical" empire research is reliable and incorruptible? That's a joke. Just look at hillary clinton. Just look at ROME. Just look at bill clinton. Obama. Joseph Stalin. Prime examples where authority and empire failed humanity. Now you want me to trust in things that we know can and have failed multiple times and believe in them as perfect? I think not.

>Correlation is not always causation but it would be an otherworldly level of stupid to deny the fact that there are things happening here for very obvious reasons

<Naw, what's otherwordly stupid is you taking the easy face-value explanation instead of what sober minded investigation actually bears out.

Can you only come up with logical fallacies? "hue hue I'm right because I don't like you and what you say because anything you say means you're drunk hue hue" Looks like you have nothing else to say!

>Children are being physically and emotionally abused by a corrupt education system and that stress and anger and suffering is just too much for some of them, and they become murderers

<Nope. Try again.

Do you ever come out from that rock you live under? are you not aware of what is happening with these constant school shootings?

>>85417

> For you to deny that is an inexcusable crime towards all the children who suffer that corrupt and abusive system every day and to deny the problem is to deny the possibility of finding a solution

<Naw, that's just your whiny emotional appeal. You care less about helping kids than getting vengeance against the system you blame for turning you into a loser.

So what, just let everyone keep suffering? Is that all you got? I'm just telling the truth about all of this because "I'm a loser". What I see here is a problem and problems need to be fixed. You can deny that all you want but the truth is still the truth. Children are being abused and it's a fact we need to face. For all we know, you're so against people accepting this fact because you're probably some corrupt cunt in a big office chair that rather keep abusing children then get exposed by the very people you abused.

>Your ignorance is a disease

<HAHAHAHAHA

It's like ebola laughing in my face.

>ignorant people like you are exactly the ones who are running the education system and causing these problems in the first place.

<Nope! I'm the one trying to get them to listen to sensible criticism instead of shopping for theories to continue their Progressive agenda, but it's cute you feel like you're qualified to debate me when my arguments make that very clear and you assert the opposite.

The fact that you disagree with my thread isn't proof that it's wrong. You literally argue like a liberal college student that beleives the entire world revolves around them. To you, anyone having any ideas different than your own makes you scream

"OPINION RAPE!"

>>85418

>And the childrens voices?

<Better remedied by people who know what they're talking about than manchildren nursing a grudge like you.

So again you disagree, but yet you have no facts to back up WHY you disagree. You state no facts because you have none. Keep insulting me, It proves you have nothing.

>a degree in bullshittery?

<It's not bullshit just because you're a neckbeard and can't into academic expertise.

It's already been proven countless times that it doesn't matter what qualifications anyone has, corruption is possible anywhere. I'm supposed to respect you and believe whatever you say unconditionally so that you can just control my life and everyone elses without question just because you believe you're more intelligent because you went to a liberal college and got a degree in lesbian dance therapy?

> Are their voices worthless because the screams of agony from their souls carry less weight than a lawyer or a politician to you?

<What maudlin bathos. Lawyers and politicians are not the people whose insight I'm promoting. By all means keep assailing strawmen. Your desperate sophistry is amusing.

What a poor attempt at deflecting. You knew I meant people with a degree. If you can't answer the question then I assume you're avoiding it because the worst is true and you're ashamed to admit it. please defend yourself and prove me wrong, I would love to hear your side in a civil and fact based argument.

>>85418

>How many more children's voices will we ignore? how many more children will we leave trapped in a dark and bottomless pit of helplessness and allow to become monsters just to satisfy your ego? It will be a cold day in hell before I turn a deaf ear to these poor suffering children perpetually victimized by your disgusting arrogance and endless foolish ignorance.

<Your benighted dunning-Kruger tantrum is only making things worse, spaz boy, stand in the corner.

Another insult, but no factual argument. You haven't supported your side of the argument, only insults and evasive tactics. This is proof you have no argument.

>but you seem content with making yourself believe that

<Nope, not "belief." Knowledge.

I understand that you believe that you are right and everyone else is wrong, even if you don't have an actual argument to support that. How's that liberal sjw fantasy world going for you?

>You rather debate why you should or shouldn't listen to my ideas than debating my ideas themselves because you can not debate the truth

<It's more that I'm not in the habit of tossing pearls to swine. I don't debate your "truth" for the same reason I don't debate creationists or peak oil retards.

If you had the ability to prove me wrong you would have done it a long time ago. Why are you so afraid to debate me in an honest and civilized way?

>You have No facts and No argument to go by so you rather invest your cowardly and futile efforts in pedantic semantic bullshit.

<The fact is you're a retard in over your head and the argument is you aren't equipped to reign in on this subject. Also that's not what "semantic" means, but don't stop using words you don't understand while you're behind. It seems to be your hobby.

You rather debate why you should or shouldn't listen to my ideas than debating my ideas themselves because you can not debate the truth. If you had the ability to prove me wrong you would have done it a long time ago. Why are you so afraid to debate me in an honest and civilized way?

>>85420

>Nice attempt at deflecting by misquoting what I said and then intentionally mis-answering it

<Shut up, faggot.

ooo hit a soft spot there didn't I?

>You are in this thread desperately damage controlling M-M-MUH DAMAGE CONTROL! SHILLS! SHILLS! REEERUHREERUHREERUHREEREEREEEEEEEEEEE!

<Yet another thing you pretend to get but don't. Hilarious.

You fail at sounding smug to a degree of cringe that makes me feel so uncomfortable that even I am embarrassed for you, even though you're some random anonymous fool. I can't imagine how embarrassed you must feel, even though nobody knows who you are. The shame stretches through the veil of anonymity and just envelopes your inflated ego. I can almost feel you blushing.

>and parroting the runny dogshit lies the mainstream fake news media feeds the public every day.

<The opposite. You're the one doing that, actually.

Please point out specifically where this is the case. I can point out a few spots where you're the one who is supporting the views of the mainstream media. be warned, if you try to point it out where I support the MSM's views, you might fail and be proven wrong and then I will also point out where you support their views, and I promise that as a fact I will point it out successfully. ==Your move.==

>>85420

>but more and more children are being abused by a corrupt education system until they become mentally ill.

<What's the proof? That you're still pissed about being a loser in high school?

Clearly you don't have experience with this, or you do and you're lying. I'm sure it's true that you're lying. You really seem to just angrily disagree with everything this thread is about. I wonder why?

>Even then, more and more school shootings are happening. It's becomming a much more common disaster. If you torture huge amounts of children every single day for years and years, it's not a surprise that more and more of them break and go crazy and commit horrible crimes

<Except that's not what's happening. That's what you want to believe. I can only assume you were given shit as a kid like most of us but because you're a class S autist, you could never let it go.

So tell me, why are more school shootings happening?

>I like it how right at the end you tried to appear like you were saying the same thing as me after being a deceptive shill the entire post.

<Nah, that's really just you being incompetent. I guess one thing we can agree on is that the education system truly failed you.

I don't know who you think you're fooling, as anyone can go back and read what you said.

<It's amazing how you think you're trumpeting the Gospel truth against a legion of shills determined to undermine you when in reality you're embarrassing yourself in front of somebody better informed than you are who isn't taking kindly to your self-righteous and entitled whining.

If you're better informed then why haven't you proven me wrong yet? You've had plenty of opportunity to do so.

>>85443

>sick and twisted agenda. le shill

You really want to feel like a superhero fighting the evil villains, don't you? No, I'm just saying your wizard tears aren't supported by the facts and you can't handle it because it undermines your savior on the internet complex.

>It doesn't matter how many qualifactions you say you have.

No, but those of the people providing the analysis I'm conveying do irrespective of whether or not you choose to acknowledge that objective reality.

>to me and everyone else you're just another anonymous poster

I don't care. You're nobodies and whether or not you accept the superior authority of learned individuals is meaningless. Again, you're like some fundie retard who thinks that big Jesus fish eating a Darwin fish is clever counterargument rather than desperate flailing.

>Here we are meant to judge each other by the merit of our message and argument.

Well your message lacks merit and your arguments are plaintive bullshit straight from the School Survival forums. You probably have had a /cow/ thread.

>empire research

>Goes on to sperg about imperialism

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/empirical

You really have no idea what you're talking about and it's hilarious watching you feint intellect you irredeemable tool box.

>Are you not aware of what is happening.

I am, yeah. You, on the other hand, are not. What's sad is how convinced you are that you're saying something valid and insightful.

>So what, just let everyone keep suffering?

No, moron.

>I'm just telling the truth.

You're spouting bullshit.

>What I see here is a problem and problems need to be fixed

So do I. The difference is you don't know what you're talking about and your proposed solutions won't fix jack shit. Mine, however, would if the educational profession weren't up its ass with a leftist social agenda instead of teaching and disciplining the damn kids.

>You can deny that all you want but the truth is still the truth.

Keep projecting, sperglord.

>You're probably some corrupt cunt in a big office chair.

You're living a fantasy where you're the epic hero in some dumb movie. Wanna play that game? I'll bet you rub your hands together and salivate every time a school shooting happens because, "Yes! Yes! The fucking chads and bullies FINALLY got the justice I never got!"

>ebola meme

Retarded AND cringey. I can see why the Chads gave you such a hard time in the lunch room.

>That fact that you disagree with my thread isn't proof that it's wrong.

The fact you believe the stupidity in your thread is proof you were a SPED.

>You literally argue like a liberal college student that believes the world revolves around them.

Your stupid "It's the abuse and bullies!" trollop is the liberalism, son, not the cold hard facts that these cunts are psycho.

>To you, anyone having any ideas different than your own makes you scream

Projection

>>85447

>you have no facts to back up WHY you disagree.

I do, but you just cry low IQ parrot phrases like "mainstream media" and "shill" to avoid them.

>Keep insulting me, it proves you have nothing.

No it proves you're a retard that deserves to be insulted.

>It's already been proven countless times that it doesn't matter what qualifications anyone has, corruption is possible anywhere.

It's been proven countless times that a brain surgeon has a more reliable opinion on neurology than a comic-con booth babe. Period, end of discussion. That corruption is possible doesn't mean it frequent or sever enough to undermine the concept of valid authority. That isn't skepticism; it's denialism.

>I'm supposed to respect you and believe whatever you say unconditionally so that you can just control my life and everyone elses without question

No, retard, you're expected to defer to the assessment of people vastly more informed than you in their field of expertise so that they can make decisions you aren't equally capable of judging. If that's "controlling your life," tough titties. It's better than the idiocracy alternative where every normie pleb gets to have equal weight tackling enormously complicated problems.

>You believe you're more intelligent

I know I'm smarter you than you, that much is incontrovertible.

>because you went to a liberal college

Nah

>and got a degree in lesbian dance therapy

Love this anti-intellectualism. The fact that some people get shit degrees doesn't mean that a behavioral psychologist doesn't outrank you in judging the pathology of school shootings. Nuff said.

>How's that liberal sjw fantasy world going for you?

Projection. The liberal SJW fantasy is the one you're promoting and no amount of Alinskyite sophistry will change that.

>W-why are you s-so afraid to debate me in an honest and civilized way.

You were never interested in that. Your replies here >>84994 and here >>85041 prove that. You aren't entitled to a respectful nod. Start shit, get hit. Apparently you didn't learn that lesson during your harrowing school torture.

>ooo hit a soft sport here didnt I?

Shut up, faggot

>You fail at sounding smug to a degree of cringe that makes me feel so uncomfortable that even I am embarrassed for you, even though you're some random anonymous fool. I can't imagine how embarrassed you must feel, even though nobody knows who you are. The shame stretches through the veil of anonymity and just envelopes your inflated ego. I can almost feel you blushing.

LOL, I feel like a wino in the street just told me to get my act together in life while pissing himself. The fact is you make it unbelievably easy to feel smug, like a brony trying to intellectualize his manchild hobby. Enjoy this pretend victory on the internet while it lasts, because in meat space you'll still be ruled by the vendetta from high school that you lack the inner strength and intellect to let go. What's truly palpable is the dunning-Kruger autism here.

>I can point out a few spots where you're the one who is supporting the views of the mainstream media

No you can't

>I will also point out where you support their views

No you won't

>be warned

>==Your move.==

<Heh, teleports behind you. *Swish goes my katana* Nothin' personal, kid.

>Clearly you don't have experience with this

I've seen wizardchan and the school survival stuff on /cow/. You ain't special, nerd.

>So tell me, why are more school shootings happening?

Poor mental healthcare, schools that can't (or won't) instill discipline, and refusal of the educational profession to acknowledge how to fix these problems because they'd rather play social engineer.

>Anyone can go back and read what you said

And realize that I'm correct and you're full of shit and teenaged angst.

>You've had plenty of opportunity to do so

I have

>>85477

>writes textwalls of argumentative sperg 888

>calls other people manchildren

lmao @ ur life

>>85474

<You really want to feel like a superhero fighting the evil villains, don't you? No, I'm just saying your wizard tears aren't supported by the facts and you can't handle it because it undermines your savior on the internet complex.

And you? If I'm unbreakable then you're mister glass. I'm supposed to be a hero? Then what the hell are you?

I'm just sitting here waiting very very patiently for days and days responding to your posts with monk-like patience just WAITING for you to give me a fact based argument as to why you hate this thread and everything in it, but you have failed over and over again to provide any facts at all. all you can say is "lol shut up fag" over and over like some kind of retarded pussy. can you PLEASE stop flapping your lips and talking shit and actually provide an honest fact based argument for once? I'm calling you out over and over again. You have no argument worth anything and that's why you're just talking around in circles like a coward. shame on you.

>It doesn't matter how many qualifactions you say you have.

<No, but those of the people providing the analysis I'm conveying do irrespective of whether or not you choose to acknowledge that objective reality.

Oh my god this word salad. Sir, trust me I work at CSI miami and the superficial analysis states that the objective moral understanding equates to your misunderstood financial report for the house of european weiners.- You.

Can you come up with any more overcomplicated ways of attempting to say that I'm crazy simply because of the fact that you disagree with me without proving any facts to support your side of the argument? I'm getting my popcorn.

>to me and everyone else you're just another anonymous poster

<I don't care. You're nobodies and whether or not you accept the superior authority of learned individuals is meaningless. Again, you're like some fundie retard who thinks that big Jesus fish eating a Darwin fish is clever counterargument rather than desperate flailing.

If anonymous posters are nobodies then what are you doing here having conversations with us? what does that make you? I'm still waiting for answers to even the first questions I ever asked you.

>>85474

>Here we are meant to judge each other by the merit of our message and argument.

<Well your message lacks merit and your arguments are plaintive bullshit straight from the School Survival forums. You probably have had a /cow/ thread.

I already know that you think my thread sucks and my shit's all retarded. Why come you don't have facts to back up why you feel that way? I say that I you don't have facts, YOU are wrong.

<You really have no idea what you're talking about and it's hilarious watching you feint intellect you irredeemable tool box.

First of all, if I have no idea what I'm talking about that makes you a huge loser for sticking around in this thread for days on end arguing with me. You're really dumb for someone who's got all kinds of degrees and very advanced qualifications. How is it even possible that someone as dumb and as unqualified as myself has somehow kept the interest and the attention of someone SO qualified and SO intelligent occupied for days and days in a shitty thread on website full of anonymous nobodies? I'm sure the next thing out of your mouth will be a desperate attempt to save face and bury your shame "no stupid I decided to stay here and argue with you because it was fun" Now tell me, what kind of intelligent person is so damn stupid that they choose to stick around and waste their time in a in what they personally called "a shitty thread on website full of anonymous nobodies"? Looks like those qualifications mean jack shit if you're capable of being as stupid as this, and it appears that I've just proven you're entire argument about qualifications being important wrong- oh gosh… by accident..

Secondly, I'll have you know that I would never lower myself down to such as desperate of a shitty level as to be on par with what you would consider by your definitions to be "redeemable"

>Are you not aware of what is happening.

<I am, yeah. You, on the other hand, are not. What's sad is how convinced you are that you're saying something valid and insightful.

If you're so aware of what is happening, then why didn't you explain what is happening when I gave you the chance? You have just proven to everyone that you are an ignorant bucket of poo.

>>85474

>So what, just let everyone keep suffering?

<No, moron.

Yea but you're completely blind to the suffering of millions of children and refuse to accept that the problem is real. You're a moron and there's nothing you can say to convince me or anyoen else here otherwise.

>I'm just telling the truth.

<You're spouting bullshit.

If I'm spouting bullshit then why don't you just prove me wrong? Oh wait, you can't..

>What I see here is a problem and problems need to be fixed

<So do I. The difference is you don't know what you're talking about and your proposed solutions won't fix jack shit. Mine, however, would if the educational profession weren't up its ass with a leftist social agenda instead of teaching and disciplining the damn kids.

Oh so suddenly you're a conservative republican now that it's convenient for you to be, and back to blaming the "damn kids" for everything in the same sentance. how charming.

>You can deny that all you want but the truth is still the truth.

<Keep projecting, sperglord.

I don't have to project anything, watching you squirm around and beat around the bush and evade my honest questions like a a shameful coward is enough.

>>85474

>You're probably some corrupt cunt in a big office chair.

<You're living a fantasy where you're the epic hero in some dumb movie. Wanna play that game? I'll bet you rub your hands together and salivate every time a school shooting happens because, "Yes! Yes! The fucking chads and bullies FINALLY got the justice I never got!"

Yup, that's it. A big fat cunt in an old expensive greasy office chair. I bet you have cats too, like a hundred of them because you can't have any more children of your own because you were too busy riding the cock carousel until your loose gaping beef curtain cuntflaps gave out and turned into mudflaps on the back of a semi-trailer and dried up. Now you're a saggy old turd and nobody will even marry you. Maybe instead of being a bossy bitch your whole life and making kids lives a living hell you should have been someone's good wife, but now it's too late for you. You play shitty games You win shitty prizes.

<Retarded AND cringey. I can see why the Chads gave you such a hard time in the lunch room.

Whoa someone doesn't like ebola.

>That fact that you disagree with my thread isn't proof that it's wrong.

<The fact you believe the stupidity in your thread is proof you were a SPED.

This thread really triggers you huh? please tell me why you think it's wrong other than "YUR WRONG U SUK" I'm waiting…

>You literally argue like a liberal college student that believes the world revolves around them.

<Your stupid "It's the abuse and bullies!" trollop is the liberalism, son, not the cold hard facts that these cunts are psycho.

Still waiting for those cold hard facts.

>To you, anyone having any ideas different than your own makes you scream

<Projection

Then what are you doing in this thread for days and days without providing a single factual argument?

>>85477

>you have no facts to back up WHY you disagree.

<I do, but you just cry low IQ parrot phrases like "mainstream media" and "shill" to avoid them.

Oh you do? let's here those facts then. If you don't reply with facts I will accept that as your defeat in this internet argument.

>Keep insulting me, it proves you have nothing.

<No it proves you're a retard that deserves to be insulted.

Only cowards with no argument use insults. How humiliating for you!

>It's already been proven countless times that it doesn't matter what qualifications anyone has, corruption is possible anywhere.

<It's been proven countless times that a brain surgeon has a more reliable opinion on neurology than a comic-con booth babe. Period, end of discussion. That corruption is possible doesn't mean it frequent or sever enough to undermine the concept of valid authority. That isn't skepticism; it's denialism.

If you have such amazing qualifications and It doesn't matter what I think, then why do you bother arguing with me and trying to change my mind so hard for days and days in this thread? clearly my highly unqualified opinions really really matter to you a whole bunch. If you are willing to argue with me for days and days, it must mean that you want to change my mind, and if you want to change my mind it means that my opinion matters because it's valuable enough for you to want to try and change it. If my opinion is valuable enough for you to want to change it, then that proves the fact that someone such as you who claims to have very high qualifications is on the same level as someone such as me who you claim to have low or no qualifications what-so-ever.

You have just accidentally proven yourself to be on the same low level as you yourself accuse me of being on, and have proven yourself not only to be a fool, and to be on the same level as those who have no qualifications, but have also proven yourself to be absolutely wrong. How humiliating for YOU!

>>85477

>I'm supposed to respect you and believe whatever you say unconditionally so that you can just control my life and everyone elses without question

<No, retard, you're expected to defer to the assessment of people vastly more informed than you in their field of expertise so that they can make decisions you aren't equally capable of judging. If that's "controlling your life," tough titties. It's better than the idiocracy alternative where every normie pleb gets to have equal weight tackling enormously complicated problems.

But you just proved that it doesn't matter who we defer the assessement of anything to because we're all dumbasses *including yourself. how does that make you feeeeeeel?

>You believe you're more intelligent

<I know I'm smarter you than you, that much is incontrovertible.

Yea but if you're smarter than me then why are you losing?

>because you went to a liberal college

<Nah

Yah-Hah

>and got a degree in lesbian dance therapy

<Love this anti-intellectualism. The fact that some people get shit degrees doesn't mean that a behavioral psychologist doesn't outrank you in judging the pathology of school shootings. Nuff said.

Yea but you have to admit that you really enjoyed dancing with lesbians and then trying to convince ignorant people that it was proof of your intellectual capability. I'm sure you're smarter than a monkey, don't worry.

>>85477

>How's that liberal sjw fantasy world going for you?

<Projection. The liberal SJW fantasy is the one you're promoting and no amount of Alinskyite sophistry will change that.

Please point out specifically where I promote a liberal SJW fantasy in this entire thread. I'm waiting…

Please provide a fact based argument as to how pointing out the problems with the corrupt and broken education system of the USA is equivalent to pushing a liberal SJW agenda. I'm waiting…

>W-why are you s-so afraid to debate me in an honest and civilized way.

<You were never interested in that. Your replies here >>84994 and here >>85041 prove that. You aren't entitled to a respectful nod. Start shit, get hit. Apparently you didn't learn that lesson during your harrowing school torture.

So your proof that I am somehow not interested in an honest and civillized debate are my replies where I express disapproval towards you in the thread trying to mislead people. very nice try not

>ooo hit a soft sport here didnt I?

<Shut up, faggot

ooo hit a soft spot again didn't I?

<LOL, I feel like a wino in the street just told me to get my act together in life while pissing himself. The fact is you make it unbelievably easy to feel smug, like a brony trying to intellectualize his manchild hobby. Enjoy this pretend victory on the internet while it lasts, because in meat space you'll still be ruled by the vendetta from high school that you lack the inner strength and intellect to let go. What's truly palpable is the dunning-Kruger autism here.

<t. street pisser

>>85477

>I can point out a few spots where you're the one who is supporting the views of the mainstream media

<No you can't

Okay…

>>84963

<The unspoken truth about school shooters is that they aren't usually bullied kids who snapped. That's a convenient and reasonable sounding explanation that gets views and clicks. School shooters tend to simply be sociopaths. -what the news says all the fucking time

OOPS I just did!

>I will also point out where you support their views

<No you won't

OOPS I just did! (what was that! your first post in the entire thread?)

<I've seen wizardchan and the school survival stuff on /cow/. You ain't special, nerd.

I'm obviously special to you otherwise you wouldn't be here after so many days. I'm sorry but I don't swing that way. I'm sure you'll find someone nice eventually.

>>85477

>So tell me, why are more school shootings happening?

<Poor mental healthcare, schools that can't (or won't) instill discipline, and refusal of the educational profession to acknowledge how to fix these problems because they'd rather play social engineer.

Well we all know that mental healthcare is garbage, but you refuse to accept the fact that loads of mental illness comes from growing up in a very abusive environment. If school didn't fuck up so many little kids, they wouldn't have so many problems. prevention is the best cure. What do you mean by discipline? discipline who exactly and for what? At least we agree that social engineering is going on. I can't believe it took you that long to realize that. It's almost as if you didn't read my entire thread or you would have noticed that very early.

>Anyone can go back and read what you said

<And realize that I'm correct and you're full of shit and teenaged angst.

Okay then let them go back and read it. I'm sure you're okay with what they will find.

>You've had plenty of opportunity to do so

<I have

And yet you have not taken that opportunity because you don't know what to say. "I know what to say but I don't feel like saying it because because uhhhh"

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Holy shit.

This dude needs a /cow/ thread.

>>85491

why? am I too much for you?