/liberty/ - Liberty

>>84277

By not feeding it attention. There aren't enough homosexuals for them to matter as any sort of a threat to anything.

>>84278

Yeah, I bet you won't be saying that when they're out fagging up YOUR kids. Oh wait, you're an ancap, the only women you fuck are prostitutes.

>>84280

Fags and subversives wouldn't have a state to leach privileges and legal protections from, I'd like to see them try lmao

>>84282

It'll be much worse than that, anarcho-friend. The absence of a state does not mean there will be no social order. There will be non-state organizations, and you will be ostracized and excluded for not subscribing to the prevailing dogmas. And you won't have civil rights laws to save you.

>>84285

Yeah lol I know, so we move to communities that don't tolerate fags and vice versa, over time one will gain more market share than the other or some gay shit haha, literally no one can make you tolerate fegs without their gay laws

by kicking out whiners

>>84286

So you've already accepted the fact that you'll be driven out into the deserts and ice tundras. I think its hilarious that even in your most indulgent pipe dream, you're on the losing end of a Mad Max scenario.

>>84285

>non-state organizations, and you will be ostracized and excluded

Exactly. You answered it yourself, fags will be ostracized and excluded. In a normal society, gays will either stop existing, or they will be forced to act like normal people because their gay shit simply won't be tolerated.

In modern times, we aren't allowed to ostracize anyone, it's the state that took over the role of choosing who we must ostracize, that's why commies, Nazis, SJWs, and all other statist bastards hate it when the community ostracizes it's members on it's own, because it proves that in an ancap society they'll have no purpose and will all have to go out and find real jobs.

>>84290

There's a false premise in your argument that all of the "undesirables" have no economic power or valuable professions. This is not true at all. And in fact, current society is largely left-leaning on social issues without any nudging from the gov't. True, the gov't schools are a big reason it got that way, but that's the situation now. I don't see how we get from current society to your ideal one.

>>84291

>There's a false premise in your argument that all of the "undesirables" have no economic power or valuable professions.

You're right. It's really a non-issue if a fag has a good job and provides some kind of value to society until they start pushing their shit right in your face, or if there is a threat that they will start fucking your kids.

>And in fact, current society is largely left-leaning on social issues without any nudging from the gov't.

You're also right about this. I'm not saying that in a free society everything will be fixed overnight (some things will), but eventually people will start to regulate themselves in absence of the government, in worst cases, it will be when current generations pass away.

The problem is that you think that people are naturally degenerate and that they naturally gravitate towards faggotry and pedoshit in a free society unless someone forces not to. According to you, supposedly the only way for human beings to be "good" is to be put on a leash like animals, so much for loving "the Aryan race" and all that other sentimental Nazi bullshit.

The fact is we aren't living in a free and natural society right now, the community's ability to self-criticize and self-regulate has been disabled and that role has been taken over by the state, we are forced to tolerate this shit right now when for most of history until the last hundred years (when modern governments developed) people ostracized them. If you allow the community to criticize itself, then what will happen to fags IRL is exactly what happens to them on imageboards, they will simply be told to GTFO. Same applies to sluts, feminists, race-mixers and all other kinds of degenerates.

>>84292

>The problem is that you think that people are naturally degenerate

Yes, absolutely.

>unless someone forces not to

No, I think that is the role of religion, not gov't force.

>so much for loving "the Aryan race" and all that other sentimental Nazi bullshit.

Strawman.

The only issue I have with the rest of your post is that you're showing your bias too. Perhaps some residuals from your upbringing, maybe your parents or your parent's parents were religious. But in a free society with no rules, no religion, no state, you must concede that even your pious biases will fade away. Yes, humans need transcendental values, and religion satisfies that role and can do so without occupying the role of gov't (even though it has done that very thing in certain historical contexts).

>>84295

>Yes, absolutely.

They're not. You don't have to force someone to be straight, but you have to force someone to be gay. And you aren't exactly snorting coke off a tranny's ass while typing this, despite the government not having enough power to stop you from doing so. (Or are you?)

>Perhaps some residuals from your upbringing, maybe your parents or your parent's parents were religious. But in a free society with no rules, no religion, no state, you must concede that even your pious biases will fade away.

lolwat. Where did that come from? Now you're changing the subject to "can morals exist without religion"? Let's stay on topic here.

>>84298

>depravity

I'm referring to a concept from Christianity that we all have a sinful nature. People aren't good; it's extremely naive to think so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_depravity

As to the rest, I was making the point that we're all starting out from some sort of context, and if you're in the West, the mores inculcated upon are almost certainly derived from the Christian tradition, even if you or your family are not explicitly religious.

>>84277

i think im queer as well (mentally at least)

>>84298

>but you have to force someone to be gay

How so?

>>84302

You've changed the subject because you got BTFO when we explained to you that faggots will be ostracized in Ancapistan and now you're also bringing these cultural Marxist arguments that there's no underlying biological human nature and we're all just blank slates meant to be brainwashed by some government. It's true that people are products of their environment, but it still takes shitloads of propaganda and conditioning to force people to go against their very biological nature developed by millions upon millions of years of evolution. It's like training a pride of lions to eat vegetables and be friends with people, it'll be fucking hard but even if you succeed, it takes only one of them to chew your face off and they'll all return to normal shortly after you're dead, at the very least the offspring won't be brainwashed like the parents.

As for christcucks, I don't care about their concepts tbh, they can pull anything out of their ass and the only evidence they have to back it up is "the bible says so". People sure as hell aren't degenerate by default and they aren't gay by default, it takes certain conditions to achieve the degeneracy we have today.

Make a quick buck selling McButtplugs

>>84346

Selling both McButtplugs AND McBogs.

>>84331

You've strawmanned me, you never BTFO anything I said, and I don't give a fuck if you're a materialist, the Bible is proven correct and much more concrete than your stupid ancap pipe dream. Enjoy searching the tundras for water after fag society throws you out.

>>84395

"Christianity is pagan"

t. barg bikernass

>>84421

>*the good things in christianity are bagan

FTFY

>>84428

what things?

>>84553

https://www.ucg.org/vertical-thought/paganism-in-christianity

>>84277

I know this is a shitposting thread, but legitimately just leave them the fuck alone. If they start shit on your property, kick them out, and if they continue to cause shit, ban them from your store. Others will follow in the same way one wouldn't allow niggers into their stores without a white friend to reduce the risk of them stealing shit.

>lol wut will ancap do about people who only act obnoxious because the government ensures they face no responsibility for their actions

Gee I wonder, you sure got us beat on this conundrum /trannypol/.

>>84785

protip: women are more of socialists than homosexuals

Most if people being not homophobic they won't give a shit, but there will be communities for fags and anti fags to live in if they don't like it in their home communities

>>84289

It says something about you that you think that without daddy state everyone will naturally accept faggots and other degeneracy.