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 No.84127

What if the PMC I hired turns on me and robs me instead?

 No.84128

>>84127

Then i'm sure you can leave a really bad Yelp review


 No.84169

>>84128

This. Welcome to free market!


 No.84173

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>>84127

>What if the PMC I hired turns on me and robs me instead?

Then you must have a really bad hiring streak tbh.

Realistically though, this would probably make the news and the PMC itself at large would most likely take swift action against the contractors who robbed you and unfortunately for the company, other PMCs would most likely point to this incident as an example of their inefficiency. It is a large possibility that they could go out of business for this incident.


 No.84174

>>84127

This is why you don't hire a foreign PMC.


 No.84180

>>84127

>What if my PMC wants to go out of business and face persecution?


 No.84192

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>>84180

>Much of the destruction of civilian lives and property was caused by the cruelty and greed of mercenary soldiers.[93] Villages were especially easy prey to the marauding armies. Those that survived, like the small village of Drais near Mainz, would take almost a hundred years to recover. The Swedish armies alone may have destroyed up to 2,000 castles, 18,000 villages, and 1,500 towns in Germany, one-third of all German towns.[94

>The Schwedentrunk (German: [ˈʃveːdnˌtʁʊŋk], Swedish drink) is a method of torture and execution in which the victim is forced to swallow large amounts of foul liquid. The name was invented by German victims of Swedish troops during the Thirty Years' War. This method of torture was administered by other international troops, mercenaries, and marauders, and especially by civilians following the Swedish baggage train, who received no pay. It was used to force peasants or town citizens to hand over hidden money, food, animals, etc., or to extort sex from women.

>enforcing law and order during a state of war


 No.84206

>>84192

Do you make any difference between random hired thugs from centuries ago and a modern PMC? Pillaging was so common during wartime that it's redundant to mention it. The cases where it didn't happen was when they either had no time to, historians straight up tried to cover it up, or there was a specific policy to kill anyone who steals, or tries to rape.

Hell, pillaging was the main source of income for some regions like Scandinavia. You know what you get when you see/hire the snownigger.

>Much of the destruction of civilian lives and property was caused by the cruelty and greed of mercenary soldiers.

It pales in comparison with what any State army has done.


 No.84218

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>>84206

What if the PMC gets itself into a position of critical battlefield interest and then demands an extraordinary payment? Or if it makes agreements with an opposing PMC under the table not to fight each other since fighting is expensive, even though you contracted them?

Should you just hire in house?


 No.84227

>>84218

Just hire a different PMC.


 No.84229

>not running your own PMC

smh


 No.84252

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>>84227

>>84229

Can a PMC turn into a state due to the authorization of using force?


 No.84271

>>84252

Maybe, but even the fact that it calls itself a PMC would dim their chances of creating a belief in their legitimacy without which they will never be sustainable as a state. Even other services available would not do. Also, borderless nature of ancapistan would also be a serious problem for such a thing, as people could move out to a land out of the PMC's reach, where it would have to face other PMCs. If they do try to fight they are also disadvantaged, as they won't get the monetary support while others do, as you cannot be a PMC and be as invasive as a state without losing customers and being the initiator of aggression, with all the disadvantages.


 No.84294

>>84252

Again, this is why you don't hire foreign PMCs.


 No.85066

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>>84127

You basically become a publicity stunt/disaster for everyone in the industry.

Other PMCs will trip over their dicks to get you as their customer and use this case to prove how everyone but them is a cockscuker and they are the bestest and noble-est community minded defenders of freedom. Offending PMC will get sued into the ground by legal firms hired by your insurance company to recoup the losses from paying all of the damages. If you get killed or crippled for life, you'll become a posthumous celebrity of the week for all of the local yellow papers, and there's a chance that someone straight up brains members of offending PMC with a brick in a dark alley.

>>84252

State formation is complicated business. It depends.

Depends on so many factors that an abstract question like that is meaningless. They'd need continuous, productive, defendable territory, legitimacy in the eyes of a big slice of the population, and good relations with other companies (who will throw a fit over a chunk of their hypothetical customers leaving the market). These factors have different importance, compensate for one another somewhat, and there's a sliding scale on all of them.


 No.85090

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 No.85208

>>84127

>What if the PMC I hired turns on me and robs me instead?

Then you got robbed. I mean, what answer do you expect? What if your baker shoots you? Then you are dead. That simple. The free market is not a force field protecting you from evil people. For that matter, neither is the government.

Also, I'd pay to retake the holy land.

>>84128

This is actually the correct response, sarcastic as it is. If the PMC starts robbing its customers, it won't get any more customers. Other PMC's will be patronized instead. The one that robbed you will lose customers and its power compared to other PMC's, making it easy pray for the ones that don't rob their customers. Eventually, the customers end up with the PMC's that actually protect them.

>But what if they earn more money from committing robbery than from protecting me?

Then you're begging the question. Good thing is, even then, there are other options. Fortify your home, carry a weapon around, take basic self defense classes, found a neighborhood watch, the options are endless.

>What if they don't work?

Then you're begging the question really hard. What if a billionaire decides that murdering you is worth his entire fortune? You're dead. Same if a president decides the billionaries fortune is worth that to him. Same if your dog one day starts hating your guts and bites your throat off.

>>84192

Well, compare that to mercenaries in the Italian city states after the Thirty Years War. They would outmaneuver each other for months, then pitch a battle in which no one might even die. Villagers would stand around and watch the fight. Towns would surrender and then surrender to the competition a week later, with zero bloodshed.

The Thirty Years War was the result of Protestants and Catholics going at each other, then a Swedish tyrant showed up with his heavily subsidized army and unleashed hell in Germany, and then things kinda escalated. The states themselves hired the mercenaries and then defaulted so bad the guys had to loot and pillage to survive in a foreign country.

>>84218

>Or if it makes agreements with an opposing PMC under the table not to fight each other since fighting is expensive, even though you contracted them?

Then stop paying them. Then praise the free market for reintroducing limited warfare.




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