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WARNING! Free Speech Zone - all local trashcans will be targeted for destruction by Antifa.

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 No.83703

libertarian quotations itt

 No.83716

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 No.83717

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 No.83818

>>83722

i dont get jeffersson's quote


 No.83819

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>>83818

What he be saying is, if u walking around town with yo bae and some creep slaps your her on the ass, you who have the right to slap that mofo on the ass too.


 No.83857

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>>83818

We cool, but violate the NAP and you shall taste McNukes you little bitch


 No.83932

>>83717

>(((Rothbard)))

Doesn't belong in this thread, he destroyed any chance we had of making our ideas a reality.


 No.83944

>>83932

Why? How?


 No.83947

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>>83944

Rothbard is almost singularly responsible for developing libertarianism into an internally consistent, coherent ideology. The other guy is just butthurt because of muh joos.


 No.83954

>>83947

Well, he's also responsible for the amount of moralfags among ancaps, turning its theory from being descriptive and predicting things into another political ideology, presenting the whole movement as collectivist from time to time.


 No.83962

>>83944

He took an ideology of individualism and turned it into a joke, a slavery pederast cult like judaism. Rothbard wasn't even an intelligent jew, he attached himself limpet-like to Friedman despite that Friedman's followers despised Rothbard.

He's the first moron to suggest it's perfectly fine to eat your child for breakfast because children can't pay court fees to sue you. He's also the moron to suggest slavery was even possible, because for some fucked up reason he thought it was possible to sign away your free agency. He also obsessed over homesteading, which is a joke feudalist principle that retards use… essentially it means I can claim for my property any land that spawns mosquitoes if I make a mosquito burger and sell it. That's just three fucked up things he proposed to discredit actual liberty, the rest of his work is all about collectivism and how capitalism is tied intrinsically with the state.

He's the father of anarcho communism, not anarcho capitalism.


 No.83967

>>83962

>because for some fucked up reason he thought it was possible to sign away your free agency

That's correct though. If you own your freedom, you can sell your freedom.


 No.83968

>>83967

you literally cant by the nature of it


 No.83969

>>83962

>He's also the moron to suggest slavery was even possible, because for some fucked up reason he thought it was possible to sign away your free agency.

It is demonstrably false that Rothbard claimed this:

https://mises.org/library/property-rights-and-theory-contracts


 No.83973

>>83947

internal consistency means nothing if your ideology becomes a playground for autistic intellectuals who can't show its relevance to the real world. rothbard was an ivory-tower academic that never even held a real job.

to quote the mighty ducks, rothbard isn't a has-been, he's a never-was.


 No.83979

>>83973

…And yet, it was only after Rothbard and all the work that he did that libertarianism began to truly grow and emerge as a viable and defensible ideology rather than a nonsustainanle pipe dream.


 No.83981

>>83962

>He's also the moron to suggest slavery was even possible, because for some fucked up reason he thought it was possible to sign away your free agency.

He didn't. He said this wasn't possible in Man, Economy and State, then in For a New Liberty, and last in The Ethics of Liberty. In the latter, he quoted Hobbes on that. Other ancaps support the notion of voluntary slavery, but Rothbard was never among them.

>the rest of his work is all about collectivism and how capitalism is tied intrinsically with the state.

He said literally the opposite of that, you fucktard.


 No.83983

>>83979

This.

>>83973

>internal consistency means nothing if your ideology becomes a playground for autistic intellectuals who can't show its relevance to the real world.

Rothbard constantly talked about whether it would be possible to implement his ideas in the real world. He always brought a priori arguments, statistics, and historical precedents to show why his ideas could work. Your description applies to Nozick, not to Rothbard.


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>>83703

Here are a few:

"There is no equality in Heaven, nor for that matter in Purgatory, but there may very well be equality in Hell, where it belongs."

—Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn, The Western Dilemma

"Freedom and equality do not mix, they practically exclude each other. Equality doesn’t exist in nature and therefore can be established only by force. He who wants geographic equality has to dynamite mountains and fill up the valleys. To get a hedge of even height one has to apply pruning shears. To achieve equal scholastic levels in a school one would have to pressure certain students into extra hard work while holding back others."

—Erik von Kuehnelt Leddihn, Democracy's Road to Tyranny

"In public administration there is no connection between revenue and expenditure. The public services are spending money only; the' insignificant income derived from special sources (for exa mple, the sale of printed matter by the Government Printing Office) is more or less accidental. The revenue derived from customs and taxes is not "produced" by the administrative apparatus. Its source is the law, not the activities of customs officers, and tax collectors. It is not the merit of a collector of internal revenue that the residents of his district are richer and pay higher taxes than those of another district. The time and effort required for the administrative handling of an income tax return are not in proportion to the amount of the taxable income it concerns."

–Ludwig Von Mises, Bureacracy

"Value is therefore nothing inherent in goods, no property of them, but merely the importance we first attribute to the satisfaction of our needs, that is, to our lives and well-being, and in consequence carry over to economic goods as the exclusive causes of the satisfaction of our needs."

—Carl Menger, Principles of Economics


 No.84551

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 No.84556

>>83962

Well, if that is the case, you can definitely quote him directly with citations.


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 No.84800

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True liberty is liberty from other people.


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 No.84841

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"Jack, listen to me. We're all born with an expiration date. No one lasts forever. Life is nothing but a grace period - for turning our genetic material into the next generation. The data of life is transferred from parent to child. That's how it works. But we have no heirs, no legacy. Cloned from our father, with the ability to reproduce conveniently engineered out. What is our legacy if we cannot pass the torch? Proof of our existence - a mark of some sort. When the torch is passed on from parent to child… it extends beyond DNA; information is imparted as well. All I want is to be remembered. By other people, by history. The Patriots are trying to protect their power, their own interests, by controlling the digital flow of information. I want my memory, my existence to remain. Unlike an intron of history, I will be remembered as an exon. That will be my legacy, my mark on history. But the Patriots would deny us even that, I will triumph over the Patriots, and liberate us all. And we will become the Sons of Liberty!"


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 No.85012

>>84800

I love when people who oppose popular rule in any way criticize democracy on the grounds it doesn't "really" give popular rule


 No.85016

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>>85012

LARP somewhere else fagit.


 No.85023

>>85012

Fuck off, liberal.


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 No.85095

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>>85012

What about President Donald Trump? All media surrounding that election showed tremendous bias towards a candidate, the DNC was corrupt, and Trump had to show push through the ranks of the deeply partisan Republican Party. The candidate himself said the system was being rigged.

>popular rule

About as imperfect as monarchy, anon.


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 No.85636

>>85095

Libertarian Monarchy > Libertarian Capitalism > Libertarianism > Republican Capitalism* > Anarcho Capitalism > Anarchy > Corporatism > Socialism > Communism > Anarcho Socialism

Not the party


 No.85648

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 No.85651

>>85648

Although its true that Jews have a higher IQ, it would be foolish to think they would act in our best interests. It's like white people living in Africa, they will associate with other whites and always act in the interests of other whites.


 No.85670

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>>85651

>Although its true that Jews have a higher IQ

You know who says that? Jews and normalniggers.


 No.85680

>>85670

A much stronger argument against it is admitting the IQ is a meaningless concept and does not measure anything that could be understood as intelligence.


 No.85686

>>85680

t. 90 IQ

>>85670

>all kikes are the same species of sandcoon from israel

Stopped reading right there.


 No.85689

>>83962

>christfag detected

You will be deported to Jerusalem, where you belong.


 No.85692

>>83818

Literally the NAP. If you didn't get this, kill yourself


 No.85694

>>85689

But that's where (((Judeo-Christians))) belong.


 No.85856

>>85689

i want to be deported there

t. atheist




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