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WARNING! Free Speech Zone - all local trashcans will be targeted for destruction by Antifa.

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 No.82179

is it ok with NAP if i get social benefits in amount not higher than i paid in taxes?

 No.82183

I consider it taking back the money I am owed.


 No.82188

Anything is OK as long as it's voluntary.


 No.82191

>>82183

That's not how the system works or ever has. You will either be giving much more than you take or the other way around.


 No.82202

>>82191

That's why I have no qualms of ever accepting services paid for by tax money


 No.82219

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 No.82221

>>82219

>The holocaust was real and Nazis are Evil

>The holodomor was not real and the USSR was good


 No.82224

>>82219

Does this have anything to do with the topic or are you showing us how intelligent leftposters are and how they never shitpost?


 No.82267

>>82221

>if I put a meme arrow before facts they turn into falsehood


 No.82815

bump


 No.82835

>>82179

Taxes are theft so no, it's essentially the same as someone pointing a gun to your head and saying "give me your money so that I can help you", and it's even worse when someone points a gun to your head and says "give me your money, so that we can help those people over there" which is usually what it escalates too, and the money actually going where it's intended is highly doubtful.

If the tax was voluntary, like, if you weren't forced to pay it but could if you wanted to, then there are many wiser choices out there if you want some kind of social benefits, like insurance or not being a retarded low time-preference commie and saving your money for a rainy day.


 No.82921

>>82835

korwin says otherwise


 No.83014

>>82921

Except in Poland you have two choices

>get fucked with taxes regardless

>attempt to minimize the losses by taking the 500+ (that your grandkids will be enslaved on Rothschild organ farm to pay off)

You can't kill politicians because they're private property of CIA, BND and Mossad

>>82219

Holodomor was a divine punishment for being nigger-tier subhumans


 No.83042

>>83014

t. nigger


 No.83435

>>82267

>implying that shitty lefty meme is a fact.


 No.85182

bump


 No.87902

Ayn rand accepted social security (less than she paid in though), so I suppose her answer was "yes".

With government usually spending whatever they take in taxes (destroying the original concept of social security and other "insurance" programs) and then borrowing on the backs of children and the unborn (future earnings) though, it becomes a bit more complicated. In one sense you are simply taking back what was stolen from you, but in another you are being a victim of theft and then stealing from future generations with debt financing.

I prefer the purist approach of avoiding gov't services as much as possible, being able to say that I am not promoting the use of violence against children/unborn with debt financing makes it worthwhile except perhaps in extreme circumstances IMO.




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