/liberty/ - Liberty

Depends on how you define "artist," but most of them have never been in a position where they're required to think about how the world works, particularly economics. Add to that that most artists aren't analytical thinkers (not necessarily stupid, just more responsive to emotion), and that reality detachment gets exacerbated. As a result, artists become much more receptive to the simplistic, emotionally-driven lefty view of the world.

>there's world poverty? Well, why don't we just give money to everyone? Wouldn't that solve it?

And similar sentiments.

>>82078

another explanation I want to add to yours is that good academies and big media are owned by cronies and/or are subsidized by the State. This means that if you are not a leftie you get excluded in the early stages, before you have the opportunity to develop your skills.

Meanwhile lefties can work in these companies and develop their artistic skills In the long run you have a lot of lefties who are talented artists because they had the opportunity to train their skills, due to the perverse way the State skews the media market.

>>82084

> The "lefties can't meme" meme is totally bullshit

< Social shaming AFK is the same thing as memes

okay bud. have you seen leftist memes?

They are not. You just don't care about the political opinion of the others. When you think about it, all the SJWs immediately jump to your mind, but you ignore the countless others.

>>82088

Well you can laugh at them all you want, but the fact is that they managed to shill their laughing stock of an ideology into the mainstream and you, as cool as you are being right wing and all, have to resort to posting on some shitty anonymous asshole of the internet as the only place where your views could be acceptable.

And when I say "memes" I hope you'll get that I'm not specifically talking about funny captioned images or badly frogs drawn in MS Paint or whatever. I'm talking about virulent piece of ideas that are small and simple enough for plebs with no attention spans to digest and spread to other plebs.

t. memeing on a national level, believe me, I know my shit.

>>82093

They got that way be taking over the entire education system and brainwashing kids when their in 2nd grade. You can brainwash little kids easily. No meme mastery needed.

>>82096

Yeah, the left got into power by getting at the kids early, and making them afraid to even confront the possibilities of the other side, not through persuasive argument or memes because they don't have any. All of their power is predicated upon the right being socially unacceptable, once someone decides they don't give a shit what the other leftists think of them it's basically guaranteed they'll leave the ideology.

>>82096

>boo hoo

>they used sneaky tricks

>they brainwashed little kids

>they made us look socially unacceptable

>no fair!

Nothing's fair in a war, and underhanded or not, their methods were extremely effective however they did them, so if you want to beat them then you have to stop crying like a little bitch and start doing exactly what they do.

As for the meme mastery, nigger, if you're expecting propaganda so overt that someone practically screams "BECOME A COMMUNIST" at you then of course you're not gonna fall for that shit. The secret lies in getting you meme'd without you knowing about it and they've got all the journalists, all of the movie directors, all of the music producers, all of the game designers to do that for them.

>>82098

LOL! I'm not complaining about it. They did a good fucking job. White progressives are a smart group. The point was that its not a matter of them being good at meme magic.

>>82098

>Explaining how it happened is automatically the same thing as complaining about fairness

what

Beyond the things already mentioned in this thread, the left/right sides of the brain may be worth mentioning. The left is said to deal with logic, whereas the right is said to deal with artistry. Thus, if one uses the right side of their brain more, it can be presumed they're less logical, which falls quaintly into SJW territory.

>>82123

/pol/->

>>82123

This applies to your shitty chart, too: >>82160

>>82161

>>>/soyboys/

They are children

Art had degraded, so it would only make sense if the artists had also.

>>82196

Equality doesn't exist, regardless of how much people want to delude themselves into thinking so. Fascism's inequality is faulty as well, however, because it is arbitrary. It's unequal simply because the state makes it so, not because of the natural competition between men. Pure meritocracy is the libertarian position, as that is the natural state of people when not coerced.

>>82196

Christians confirmed commies.

>>82246

Meritocracy means the government of the """"""best"""""""", it's arbitrary as fuck. Democracy already works like the market (supply - demand), it's not perfect, but it's the best possible in the framework of capitalism.

>>82265

>Democracy already works like the market

Only if buying votes was legal. In which case lets cut out the middleman.

>>82070

There's tons of people who are anti-SJW and are artists though? Comic book industry is filled with them, then you have all those people who draw hentai and work in video games. There are a lot of artists concerned with social justice but the exception proves the rule in this case.

I think libertarians of all strains get way too hung up on SJW stuff. It's a weird bias that I never really got especially since feminist criticism or thought doesn't really necessitates statism. Are a lot of these SJWs socialists or some strand of Marxian? Sure, but so are a lot of anti-SJWs, even a lot of straight up commies are anti feminism. We should oppose all expansions of the state in the favor of equality but being vociferously anti-SJW is similar in my mind to being anti-Christian because it's been used to apologize for and legitimize the state. I guess just like, keep your eye on the goal and then once we abolish the state and have true freedom we can argue about SJWs ruining video games or cartoons or w/e.

>>82070

Artists tend to be more open minded and less hung up on details, looking at structures and how they function rather than how each individual brick is laid.

In short, being an artist forces you to think dialectically about the forces in motion rather than the still picture.

>>82436

so they simplify

>>82437

Sorry if I triggered you

>>82070

Have you taken the symbol for neoliberalism from /r/neoliberal/?

>>82499

no u

Because they can't succeed in any endeavor that depends on real value for success.

So they pick a field where you can perform a basic bodily function in a corner and call it success.

>>82070

This graph is actually pretty well made. I laughed a couple times. Good job.

Liberals tend to be more expressive I guess.

>>82765

because they are extravertic scum

>>82800

Now that you mention extroverts, there also seems to be a correlation between leftists being in the feeling spectrum rather than the thinking spectrum.

There's a very obvious reason, and I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet.

The enforcement of intellectual property drastically increases the total revenue for any given art industry, whether it is movies, music, games, etc. However, to rationalize intellectual property, you must accept two major claims

1) It is fair for tax money to be used for copyright enforcement, even if the tax money is coming from someone who would never purchase your art pieces.

2) Copyright enforcement is only practical through a large degree of government surveillance and control over media distribution channels. The large government necessary to provide this is acceptable.

When you accept the above two principals, it becomes very easy to argue for the typical left-leaning laundry list of political demands. You've already established taxation, low personal privacy, jail time for some forms of speech (i.e. linking to pirated material), using public money to artificially grow an industry, etc. etc.

>>83106

It also contradicts private property, as you lose freedom to, say modify it into something that can be considered IP.

>>83043

also

leftism=feminity

>>83106

I think you're a bit off-mark. I wouldn't call it a leftist stance, it's a very corporatist stance since the corporations are the only ones to benefit from getting the government involved in the industry. Whether we're leftists or capitalists is irrelevant here because we're now both trying to protect our interests as consumers, the leftists want free shit as usual and capitalists want a free market (which in this industry, lowers the prices to almost 0, to the dismay of publishers).

Also, as for the artists themselves, I don't think they would change their whole outlook on economics and become communists just to not feel like hypocrites for being capitalists while wanting the government to fuck with the market to protect their profits (that's not how the industry works anyway, artists are paid a salary, it's the publishers that get the profits).

Artists seem to be overwhelmingly SJW because such people crave attention. They will use their art primarily to get attention for themselves or their opinions or otherwise virtue signaling to get attention for their art.

They're the kid who kept constantly squeaking at other kids' birthday parties because he couldn't stand not being in the center stage for longer than an hour.

>>83269

That, and because they can't do anything else in life, not even art itself. Think about it, you're completely fucking useless, the only "fun" thing you can do for money is art (not really, but they hope for the best anyway) and everything else is either boring or requires a high IQ to succeed in, then they can't draw well anyway but hey, it's ok because there's millions of idiots just like you who will still appreciate your art for its left-leaning message regardless of whether you draw something good or smear your shit on a canvas.

>>83269

some artists are anonymous tho

>>83576

NOT ALL X ANON. NOT ALL X. WHAT YOU SAID IS WRONG BECAUSE NOT LITERALLY ALL OF Y ARE Z.

>>83576

I was not clear. I meant that to apply to artists who are SJW, not to artists in general. It seems like most artists are leftist because leftist artists are always attention whoring. Naturally apolitical artists more willing to let their work stand on its own merits without injecting their super spicy and very important beliefs into it will often be overlooked or not get brush fire word of mouth as often.

And it's the attention craving that's really at the heart of it all. They could be true believers and only improve or hone their art to serve as a vessel for their politics or otherwise not give a real fuck about social justice but understand that pretending is helpful for making people praise their art out of solidarity.

Furries and tartlets (as much as those are still a thing) are full of these spergs.

>>82427

>It's a weird bias that I never really got especially since feminist criticism or thought doesn't really necessitates statism.

do you suggest anarchafeminism is not statism?