/liberty/ - Liberty

Democrats with guns. Thanks Gary Johnson.

>>81370

>with guns

Most of them aren't even that, just look at that cuck Bill Weld. The LP is nothing more than the dudeweed party.

>>81351

since I live in the UK, you can expect rightly that our libertarian party (LPUK) preaches very (((moderate))) libertarianism, since nationalised healthcare has existed ever since the late 40s in the form of the NHS, which even the conservatives have never dared to touch. they are also really smol since they were only able to have MP candidates in 4 constituencies (out of 650) in the last election, none of which were in my area. our Conservative party are basically a prudent version of the Democrats burgerland that like censoring websites they don't like, that being said, i still appreciate the actions of Margret Thatcher in combating the socialist menace in the 80s and privatising many nationalized programs. the labour party used to be the same but with more social housing and keynesianism under Ed Miliband, but have now contracted fully blown socialism with Jeremy Corbyn. the LPUK and the Pirate Party would probably be the best thing to happen in the UK if elected tbh.

>>81351

The most libertarian party in my country is:

>less taxes

>more personal freedom

>less laws but stricter sentencing for people who break them

They have a single seat in parliament but support for them is slowly growing amongst young voters.

We used to have an even more radical libertarian party which was basically:

>taxation is theft and should be abolished

>privatise everything except the military

>reduce taxes while you slowly dissolve the functions of government, eventually abolish taxes entirely and ask for donations to fund military

That party only got a few thousand votes on average and disbanded, its members went and joined the less radical party.

>>81370

i dont get it

>>81351

>my dad goes to your site and he saw my boobs that he bought for me, he said they are only for him to see and for my future husband

Jesus Christ.

>>81408

>I will send you pictures of me fucking fruit for your own pleasure just please take them down

Not only does this bitch have absolutely no self-respect she's also retarded.

>abloobloo, there's naked pictures of me

>here, let me send you more naked pictures.

>>81351

I'm really proud of the libertarian party here in Russia. Ten years ago people didn't even know what libertarianism was, most people confused it with liberalism until they showed up. The party is nowhere as big as the mainstream parties, but very effective for its size and it's been growing rapidly since its founding ten years ago by students in their 20s. It's one of the parties that isn't shady or corrupt in some way whereas most other parties (including the opposition) are started either by old ex-USSR government officials or people who are affiliated with the Kremlin.

What I especially like the most about them is that they're Hoppe-tier based and proudly preach the most controversial libertarian principles in a civilized and simple way that doesn't make them look like some kind of edgelord redditors to the average person.

>>81412

Cool, what were you planning on studying?

>>81416

I'm in an undergrad Economics program at the moment, so I would have continued that during the abroad semester. Was looking at the ANE in Moscow.

>>81417

Well you should definitely come and visit, especially during the Adam Smith forum held almost every year. It's a libertarian conference organized by the party, with a bunch of international guests coming to give lectures. I think they do it at the ANE itself sometimes too.

>>81441

I would, but like I said, all the programs to Russia have been suspended because of "muh sanctions."

>>81411

greetings from poland friend

>>81832

Greetings brother!

Nothing because it's dead.

>>81853

u from?

>>81879

Germany.

>>81351

Nobody but them knows they exist

>>81891

That could be interpreted as a good thing, where the moment someone learns what libertarianism is they instantly want to be a part of it.

>>81891

u from?

>>81979

u from?

>>81985

U from?

>>81986

NO U from?

Brazil is full libertarian, AnCap and agorism mode among young adults

>>82024

Brazilian here, amazing how ancap is still small, but growing quickly amoung young people.

>>82043

good luck friendo

>>82043

well, everyone is a criminal there so you might as well make ignoring the laws your ideology

>>82091

rude…

>>82091

>implying that's a bad thing

>>81370

Libertarian party is far left, the only reason they argue for open borders is because Gary Johnson is retarded enough to think illegal spics will vote for him. The pro drug sentiment is just his way of courting the cartel, they have the largest dudeweed farms and stand the most to benefit from legalization.

>>81985

poland

In the States, we had our two major parties run two of the most broadly unpopular candidates in modern history outside of their diehard fan bases for the 2016 Presidential election. It was also an election where outsider candidates against the money and willpower of political machines enjoyed highly unusual success. This was the perfect time for third parties make a lasting impact on a sharply divided and unsatisfied electorate.

The Greens ran Jill Stein (again) who was more concerned about proving she had a bigger vagina than Clinton.

The Libertarians ran Gary Johnson who decided to attack Trump with left-wing talking points and let a Richard Stallman lookalike do a strip tease on stage.

Even if we had proportional and runoff voting in the US these idiots would still find a way to hand victory to the Two Party System.

>>83929

>criminal orgs benefit from black market products being legalized.

How?

>>84142

>How?

if cartels now have cannabis fields so they have advantage over newly started companies in case of cannabis becoming legalized. they want to be leaders in market no matter of legality

>>84142

They have the infrastructures in place, and massive startup capital. Smart pharma reaches out to them, and gets a head start on competitor pharma that stupidly tries to reinvent the wheel.

I know in holland that pharmaceutical companies started going to previously criminal homegrow operators for skilled labor.

>>84207

>>84232

But don't criminal groups want black markets to remain so they can increase their profits and limit competition? That does seem to be one of the practical arguments made by libertarians for legalization when "Fuck you dad, I'll smoke what I want DO SUMTHIN 'BOUT IT!" doesn't convince people.

>>84255

criminal groups want to earn more money by operating in legal market so making their business bigger

>>84268

>by operating in legal market

Their profits will never be that high without criminalization of their buisness, silly.

>>84270

are you sure?

>>84314

Absolutely, search for scenarios when drugs were legalised, or alcohol was banned. Even the usual govt granted monopoly like tobacco is not as profitable, though it has slightly bigger market share.

>>84322

>get away with extremely unsafe products as nothing can really happen to them

Enjoy your dwindling customer base.

>Bathtub gin during the prohibition is a great example of this

The government also killed thousands by deliberately poisoning alcohol.

>Good luck telling the police you were committing a felony

Police will oftentimes take anonymous tips. If Bob puts a bunch of filler in his cocaine, just call up a hotline and tell the police he's dealing. Hell, get some of your friends that also got burned by him to do it too, so they have more reason to act.

>>84328

>the black market due to it's nature perverts the flow of information

Some information still gets through, and being dead because the product they used was outright dangerous tends to stop someone from being a returning customer.

>That's IF anyone actually pays attention to your tip

See >>84323

>Hell, get some of your friends that also got burned by him to do it too, so they have more reason to act

>it doesn't look too nice hopping up to police confessing about a drug dealer who sold drugs to you and your friends

That's why I specified anonymous tip.

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