No.80730
Can we get rid of the communist flag, /leftypol/ flag, social democrat flag, ancom flag, and any other flag that's not associated with libertarianism? These basically act as an incentive for lefty shitposters to avatarfag and LARP as contrarian 'revolutionaries'; the option to mark themselves and advertise their differing opinion is a way for them to bait others into replying. I believe this measure would serve to greatly reduce the number of "muh roads" and "lol ancap is feudalism" posts shitting up the board without actually banning the expression of different opinions, which the BO appears to be against.
No.80735
>>80730
A long time ago, we had an anon that made us some nice looking upgraded flags. We asked the BO to replace the current flags with them…thread rode all the way to bottom, fell off, and we still have the same flags. Your idea will never see the light of day.
No.80746
While we're at it, getting rid of the commie banners would be nice. BO isn't gonna do jack shit though.
No.80747
Of course, there's a sticky at the top of the board openly stating that these people are overtly invited, while the helicopterfags shitting all over the place are explicitly excluded…
…but that wouldn't matter to someone like you, would it? I mean, other people's property, their express wishes… libertarian1 and libertarian2, and you, well, the only time you give a shit about other people's property is when you helicopter them to take it.
No.80749
>>80746
A shame. BO, if you're reading this I'm willing to take over board ownership if you can't be arsed to do anything. Clearly you monitor the board somewhat, as you log in often enough that the board isn't unclaimed. I'm assuming if no one's left by now people still prefer this place to /ancap/ or other alternatives.
>>80747
>bait.png
No.80753
>>80749
I think he intentionally allows commies to stay. Seems fair to me. They're an annoyance but there's no reason to throw them out.
No.80754
Flags aside, fuck these faggots. I 'member and I still love you, BO. No Homo. If you ever need someone to temporarily basically not do anything but log in once every couple days, just give me a heads up.
No.80755
>>80753
>They're an annoyance but there's no reason to throw them out.
Sure, which is why I didn't suggest banning them. Just get rid of the flags that encourage them to egoboo.
No.80759
>>80747
As much as I hate the commies, they're actually using the board for something that resembles political discussion if you squint your eyes. Don't try to conflate the removal of commie flags and banners with the removal of commie posters.
No.80762
>>80759
It would be nice if there was more discussion that wasn't arguing with commies though. Debate is all well and good, and keeps the senses honed, but the intellectual enrichment becomes rather one-sided if we're constantly debunking the same arguments over and over. We have threads on shit like the relevance (or lack thereof) of intellectual property on the free market from time to time, or about the property rights of children, yes, but these are the exception and not the rule. If nothing else it's a bit disheartening to realize that by post and thread count, /liberty/ has far more commie shitflinging and the response to said shitflinging than it does libertarians discussing the finer points of libertarianism.
/pol/ is a pretty shit board through and through, and a near-textbook example of overmoderation diminishing a community. That being said I'd like to use it as an example. Put yourself in the shoes of a NEETsoc for a moement; do you think that board would be made better or worse (from the perspective of its userbase, not of your own) if every other thread was some variation of "but my teacher told me holocaust was real?" There are few if any threads of this sort, instead most of the discussion is on current events and other shit that relates to /pol/acks and /pol/ack interests. To use the other example, would /leftypol/ become a better place for users of /leftypol/ if it was spammed with low-effort memes denigrating the LVT?
No.80764
>>80762
Without the commies, libertarianism turns into the glorification of lobbying and regulatory stratification in a pure-fiat system.
Without the libertarians, the commies turn into "socialism is when the government does stuff, rite?"… which sucks way worse from the left.
Y'all need each other to pick each other's fleas, and there's a reason the line in the graphic up top is pure-horizontal.
No.80765
>>80764
Those declarations seem arbitrary. More to the point, whether they're valid or not they're directed at the political activism of these respective groups, and not simply the discussion of two very different ideologies. And imageboards tend to work best as places for conversation and discussion rather than straight-up activism. On /k/, for instance, posting isn't focused funding the GOA or forming militias but more general discussion on firearms, tonks, navies, etc. /k/'s shitposters aren't soccer moms screeching about the dangers of high capacity clipazines, but gooks who want to replace medkits with underbarrel grenade launchers. By the same token, /pol/ isn't a place for organizing RWDS, and people don't post there expecting that. It's a board where people talk about their ideology.
So, even if I take you at your word when you say that the commies are necessary to keep libertarians politically coherent and not advocate for a pure-fiat system, I posit that this is irrelevant to the an imageboard. I can't speak for other users, but I visit 8chan primarily to relax and post about subjects I enjoy with other anons who enjoy those same subjects. While the occasional bit of banter is all well and good, encouraging the proliferation of anons who are not keen on discussing the subject I enjoy discussing, and in fact want to talk about something completely different, runs counter to this.
No.80766
I feel bad for you guys for all the commie posting, but a job is a job, and you don't wanna know what Soros does if we don't fill our quota.
No.80774
>>80766
Soy is expensive.
Doubly so if you're trans.
No.80788
>>80730
Why can't we just do the smart thing and limit leftposting to a dedicated cyclical thread for lefties so that they can voice their opinions there without shitting up the entire board? This can be merged with the QTDDTOT thread.
>Russian Communists overthrow Czar Nicholas II
And that's a shameless commie lie. The (((Russian))) communists never overthrew Nikolai II, the commies overthrew the liberals who forced Nikolai II to abdicate earlier in the year.
No.80792
>>80788
Horizontal lines, vertical lines, sticky at top of board.
No.80822
No.80828
>>80822
>commie memes
No retard, OP's image is making fun of an incredibly bad children's cartoon that has commie propaganda interspersed within.
No.80836
>>80828
>further spreading commie propaganda
>>>/gaschamber/
No.80839
Sometimes I post under a Commie flag, sometimes not. In general I don't use flags because people tend to respond to the image rather than argument. One of the best posters on /leftypol/ posts/posted under a swastika flag, and people just kind of accepted it after a while. I really miss the freedom we had over there before BO's spergout last year.
No.80840
>>80730
not the ancom flag. the /liberty/ board is not specifically only for right libertarians but for the bottom parts of the political compass in general so the ancom flag can stay, however I do agree that the /pol/ and commie flag along with the people who use them should be physically removed (goes for some lefty-pol flag users as well) since they are authoritarians and thus do not belong here.
No.80845
>>80730
I see plenty of shitty posts by people with libertarian flags and that wouldn't stop socialist shitposters from posting they just wouldn't have their own flag and you couldn't ignore them just by the flag they use.
No.80847
>>80845
The flags act as an incentive. Lefties that hang around here are primarily attention whores, and the ability to brand themselves with a contrarian flag exacerbates that, it's like another form of tripfagging.
No.80861
Trust me guys, if you remove the commie flags, your board will be torn apart by everyone calling everyone a commie.
No.80862
I wouldn't be surprised if the BO was a commie by now.
No.80866
>>80862
A spectre is haunting Liberty - the spectre of communism. All the powers of Liberty have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: libetarians and ancaps, nationalists and monarchists, fascists and American intelligence agencies.
Where is the poster in opposition that has not been decried as communistic by its opponents in power? Where is the opposition that has not hurled back the branding reproach of communism, against the more advanced opposition parties, as well as against its reactionary adversaries?
Two things result from this fact:
I. Communism is already acknowledged by all of Liberty posters to be itself a power.
II. It is high time that Communists should openly, in the face of Liberty, publish their views, their aims, their tendencies, and meet this nursery tale of the Spectre of Communism with a manifesto of the party itself.
No.80868
I believe the "attention whore" argument has just proven itself.
No.80869
No.80870
>>80868
>>80869
Jeez, can't take the bantz. Fine, you can have your thread back.
No.80871
But if we remove commie flags how can we falseflag?
p.s. i love soy. i love it even more than the idea of flourishing markets for children.
No.80875
>>80870
You have two boards. Two fucking boards plus the spin-offs /leftyb/, /marx/, etc…
No.80876
>>80875
But I can't discuss politics with lolberts on those boards.
No.80880
>>80730
>can we get rid of everything that I don't like?
>that way, I can finally be Free©.
No.80938
>>80876
It's not discussion, it's just shit flinging and repeating the same points over and over, especially when some new leftist just discovers this board and tries to act smart.
No.80946
>>80880
>don't chase away the animals shitting on your lawn, they're just exercising their freedoms
No.80949
>>80876
Every single time a new shitposter comes here they repost the same gotcha shit the last one did before them. It's the same shit all over again in a neverending loop. Also, meming and shitflinging is not discussing.
No.80950
>>80949
but anon, banning them would be a NAP violation
No.80951
>>80876
>be me
>post on /leftypol/
>get banned
Gee I wonder why you have to come here to find libertarians?
No.80952
>>80951
>use tor
>can't post on leftypol anyways.
>not really a big loss, since there are zero leftists in the mob.
Meanwhile, there is STILL a sticky at the top of the board that says that the leftists are invited to not-your-property, and half these "libertarians" (the 'strong leader' half) are asked to leave.
No.80954
>>80946
>commies are animals shitting on your lawn
Couldn't have described it better.
No.80990
>>80950
I did not imply that. There is more than one AnCap flag posting. That was my only comment for the whole thread. I don't think removing flags solves anything either. A cyclical thread or a sticky would help more. Anything that could prevent a thread about sucking dick on a ship for the Nth time. The amount of repeat threads makes it feel like we're stuck in groundhog day forever.
No.80994
I have dedicated my life to driving out the leftist menace from /liberty/, right back to /leftypol/ where they belong. I do it for free, and quit my job and moved in with my parents so I could focus on this full time and monitor the board 24/7. Nothing could be more important than making sure the worst soyposting board on 8chan stays communist-free, even against the wishes of its owner (sorry BO, but I'm calling the shots now–nothing personal). I will not rest even if the liberation of /liberty/ takes me decades. Leftards better step the fuck back or I will tell them to go back to /leftypol/ again, and again, and again. I cannot be stopped or reasoned with.
I may have been born too late to fight the Bolsheviks, but I was born just in time to confront an even greater evil, right here on the internet. In this moment, I am euphoric.
No.81071
>>80766
Tell him that I told you
Where is my check Soros, I broke 50 Windows and 60 Macs today
No.81077
>>81071
Jesus Christ. Stay the fuck away from Japan, their country is perfect enough as it is. The last thing they need right now is genocidal social experiments.
No.81080
>>81077
>perfect
Haven't they been in a recession since the 90's?
No.81083
>>81080
Ok, fine, they are relatively perfect.
No.81088
>>81077
Do you mean the Glorious Nippon where kids are no longer born because their men can only get hard from prepubescent children? Or where if you actually manage to produce an offspring, the company you work for shames you for not asking for permission from them? That heaven on Earth where there is such a labour shortage that the government, despite their xenophobe rhetoric, regularly imports tens of thousands of Chinese workers who they secretly keep in slave-like conditions? The perfect society where the elderly cannot survive off their pension so they either steal or commit suicide? Where seeing workers exhausted from overtime fall asleep on public transport is so common most people don't even notice it and death from overwork is just part of their culture? Where the smallest mistake in school will make you a NEET for a life (until you kill yourself) and people are so hopeless about everything many teenagers don't even leave their rooms anymore? Where politics is just a legal front for the yakuza?
No.81093
>>81088
Yeah, what they really need is to follow Best Korea's example and do real-communism instead. In real-communism, they will get everything you already mentioned AS WELL AS gulags, artificial famines, slavery, poverty, genocides and all the other horrors that come with an ideology that turns people into animals.
Fuck you. Japan is perfect the way it is, how they work, for who they work, how much they work is everyone's own decision and responsibility, it's not for some lazy NEET like you to decide.
>actually posting trannies
Wow, the memes are real.
No.81096
>>81093
Lmao the butthurt is real.
No.81101
>>81100
I ain't clicking that shit nigger.
No.81102
>>81071
Remember what happened last time?
No.81103
>>81099
>Traps
>Gay
Pick one and only one.
No.81104
>>81102
That's why we need to murder your kind. 100 gorillions here we go.
No.81108
>>81104
I also can't wait for your world revolution, then I'll be able to kill as many commie animals as I want.
No.81109
>>81108
You could right now, but you are not because you are a pussy.
enough posts for now.
No.81113
>>81109
>e-enough posts for now!
kek, sure thing tranny, let's do this again tomorrow.
No.81143
>>81103
I choose both, faggot.
No.81147
>>81143
enjoy your traps and gayness
No.81173
>>81143
Impossible. Traps and gay are mutually exclusive.
No.81176
No.81182
>>81113
Please stop posting trannies. They sexually arouse me and that is not at all why I come to this board.
No.81184
>>81113
Shit I think I may have seen that one on tumblr.
No.81185
>>81184
Finally, a libertarian that admits being a degenerate.
No.81186
Reminder that this is /leftypol/s mod
No.81198
>>81186
They're all trannies over there. You think it's just a meme?
No.81201
>>81185
We're all degenerates here.
No.81209
No.81220
People always talk about leftists being trannies but the only trannies I know of are either ancaps or date fascists.
No.81221
>>81220
I don't know where it is you live but I haven't seen a tranny that wasn't a hardline leftist.
No.81226
>>81221
This but unironically.
No.81227
>>81226
Why assume I was being ironic?
No.82174
>>80876
please stay here, there are too few leftists around, we need more balance
No.82181
>>82174
You niggers have at least two major boards, there's nothing for you to do here.
No.82542
>>82174
>there are too few leftists around, we need more
No.82563
>>80747
Why should I be tolerant to someone who wants to steal my property and enslave me? You have already violated NAP by stating your intentions.
No.82564
>>82563
>Why should I be tolerant to someone who wants to steal our property and enslave us?
Hey, that's our line.
No.82569
>>82564
>claiming something that someone else invested capital into as their property
>offering a voluntary labor exchange = slavery
in your mind
No.82573
>>82564
Paying you money for something isn't stealing it, and paying you money for working isn't enslaving you.
Read a book…. start with this one.
No.85697
Its asking me for verification to make a new thread but I dont see anything to solve. How do I make a new thread?
No.85702
>>80861
This isn't /pol/, we don't ban people for dissenting opinions, and Call everything we disagree with "JIDF.". The best thing we can do is let commushits and socialshits post their retarded ideas here, so everyone can laugh at "free college" and "governments are moral."
No.87526
>>82573
>and paying you money for working isn't enslaving you.
Slaves were compensated with food and living space as well as protection. Were they not slaves, now, or is "money" what separates slaves from free men? I recall stories of "the factory store" in which a business would pay their employees in factory dollars, to be spent in the factory store. Workers would work in the factory, live in a living space owned by the factory and buy food and goods with factory money - all sold by the company. Was this not slavery? It was, after all, one degree separate from traditional slavery and it involved a currency. How many degrees do we need before it's no longer slavery?
(Hint: It has nothing to do with money, it has everything to do with liberty and freedom)
>>87521
You're an obnoxious homosexual.