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 No.80378

Who would you call the ultimate intellectual progenitor of liberty? Sure, the first-degree precursors to modern libertarian though are John Locke, Frederic Bastiat, among others, but I mean further than that. Who is the most distant figure in history to which you trace the conception of freedom as we know it? Is it Cicero?

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 No.80383

>>80378

school of salamanca


 No.80407

>>80383

That's pretty late, historically speaking. Why not someone like Cicero? He was one of the earliest proponents of natural law and inalienable rights as they're accepted today.


 No.80408

>>80378

Whoever invented the flintlock.


 No.80411

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>>80378

The Cynics and Stoics. The Stoics a lot more so.


 No.80419

>>80407

laozi


 No.80423

>>80378

Satan

>"You should eat apple"

<"Can't, the government God said it's for my own protection"


 No.80525

>>80411

laozi was first

he lived in the sixth century before christ


 No.80577

>>80525

He might have been the earliest, but as a chink he's not really a part of the intellectual progeny of libertarianism, because he didn't have a direct influence on the line of Western philosophers that eventually led to libertarianism.


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