/liberty/ - Liberty

>implying kikes will ever give up

>implying their normalslaves will ever give up as long as the kikes can interact with them

>implying we can't ban 3d printers

>>80239

I think we're at about that point where a guy in his garage could build a little semi-auto coilgun powered by a car battery on his back. To me, those 10 feet of copper wire will be the downfall of gun control. And that's pretending it's not piss easy to make pressure cooker bombs or to just run cia niggers over with your car, or make chemical weapons from household products

I think so, if shooting with the gun is more likely to kill the shooter than the target, most people will stop shooting.

>>80239

Gun schematics/G-code for printers/cnc are already illegal internationally, it's just that the USA doesn't give too many fucks. Even then congress has been pushing to ban those for a while now.

>>80257

Some models have been proven effective for up to 500 rounds (and didn't become unserviceable until about 700-900).

>>80251

>I think we're at about that point where a guy in his garage could build a little semi-auto coilgun powered by a car battery on his back. To me, those 10 feet of copper wire will be the downfall of gun control. And that's pretending it's not piss easy to make pressure cooker bombs or to just run cia niggers over with your car, or make chemical weapons from household products

The Luty SMG proved you can make your own firearms quite easily if you have just a bit of mechanical knowledge, coilgun meme or no.

>>80242

I think Japan banned 3d printers specifically because of this. Furthermore, plastic guns only go so far; this won't be a problem for any establishment until affordable DIY CNC machines hit the market.

>>80262

im glad someone remembers P.A. Luty.

It was a brilliant form of protest to show that gun control is stupid by proving how easy it is to manufacture firearms from scratch.

>>80331

Except for the fact that they'll eventually make ammunition control the choke point. Figure that one out and you'll actually help the people.

>>80347

http://www.skylighter.com/fireworks/how-to-make/high-powered-black-powder.asp

>>80327

That's really stupid of them. 3d printing is the future, in the 22nd century it will be a necessity as much as electricity or water.

>>80347

Ammunition is extremely easy to make. The four main components are the actual bullet, the powder, the casing, and the primer. Shotguns have a "cup" to prevent damage to your barrel, but that's as "more complicated" as it gets. Rifles have rifling in the barrels which adds a little more complexity in regards to ammo sizing, but otherwise they effectively function the same as a shotgun and revolvers have huge tolerances as well for launching shit you aren't supposed to from them. With the exception of powder, every component of a round of ammunition is reusable/recyclable. With the exception of primers, every piece in making ammunition can be produced at home with unrelated goods and re-purposed for firearms. Ammunition is like meth- you can make it from just about anything if you're willing to put in the time and energy to convert it into a proper form. And like homemade meth, homemade ammunition will eat half your face, but that's a different story. Now, I wouldn't recommend recycling primers as you have to be an idiot or desperate to do so, but those are potentially the "hardest" part to acquire in a gun ban zone since they don't really serve many non-gun purposes. Mechanical primers are a thing, but then you're probably dealing with black powder which is its own mess.

>>80348

The "power" (by which I assume they mean "pressure") is a lesser issue in black powder compared to the energy density which makes it unstable/unusable with more armor-piercing rounds. You really don't want squib loads from your pressure systems not being strong enough.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=598_1334471467

>>80352

I'm sure they'll make exceptions for businesses and if you have a special license that lets them search your computer at the drop of a dime without any warning. I actually can't find anything on 3D printers being illegal.

>>80348

Black powder hasn't been used for over a century because it has less power and would foul the shit out of any gun it's shot from. Modern smokeless powder is a blend of nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin, with various fillers and stabilizers.

>>80363

Actually making ammo is a taller order than loading ammo; the difficulty is greater than that between building an AR-15 from parts and milling, punching, and welding parts from scratch.

The problem is you need to source either lead or steel and copper for slugs, steel or brass and this means a special blend of metals for gun brass for casings, then machine them to shape and only be a few mils off in tolerance testing. Then you have another mountain to climb in making primers out of cheap metal and a primary explosive. You also need to brew and form smokeless powder. You can see the problem with the scope of the supply chain involved in manufacturing ammo.

You might be able to pull it off with a chemist and metals guy helping out, and give the machining to the guy making guns, but that's the best you can hope for.

>>80352

I agree that banning 3D printers is retarded, but they're also a meme. They're useful mostly for prototyping, not creating something specific. CNC machines are what you use for that.

>>80373

>>80375

Perhaps that was jumping the gun a bit. I should have said that you aren't completely full of shit, but you're assuming we're working with top-of-the-line equipment that was meant to be repaired and maintained properly in the context of a capitalist open gun market where efficiency is more important than reliability.*

>>80363

The whole point of 3d printers is that they should be highly accessible to ordinary people to make manufacturing more decentralized. It should be just like the regular printer, today it would be tedious to have to go somewhere else every time you need some documents printed and you would mostly be doing that in third-world countries.

>>80375

>backyard furnace

Yeah. Communist China did that and people starved in a sea of pig iron, man.

Like you said: get guns, ammo, and training from your enemies' enemies. Of you want to fight asymmetrical warfare, you're better off making IEDs and raiding armories.