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WARNING! Free Speech Zone - all local trashcans will be targeted for destruction by Antifa.

File: db9b2b3e8554e88⋯.png (397.19 KB, 500x597, 500:597, states.png)

 No.79063

Well, looks like ancapism has been debunked forever.

 No.79065

File: 100d5c2e2dbe046⋯.mp4 (194.86 KB, 540x360, 3:2, you've been had, buddy.mp4)

>you have a monopoly on violence on this land, yes?

no

first premise BTFO


 No.79090

File: 4900b11fd4d85eb⋯.jpg (205.17 KB, 668x784, 167:196, fixed.jpg)

>>79063

Shit comic


 No.79091

>>79063

Yeah, pretty shitty. The first panel is already wrong. You don't have a monopoly of violence on your land. Others can still defend themselves on your land, even against yourself, and you can't freely use violence against those on your land. All your powers of coercion are ultimately derived from your right to evict, and that's it. You have dominion over your land, not over everyone who is on it. Big difference to the state.


 No.79103

It's always so amusing to see time and again that stupid facebook normies can debunk the entire ancap ideology wiith fucking memes. Literally proves that no other ideology is this ridiculously stupid and nonsensical.


 No.79104

>>79103

Oh fuck you you piece of shit before I kill you! You are making me so upset! I am LITERALLY devastated because you ignored our petty arguments above and merely reinforced the point in the OP with your smugness!


 No.79105

>>79090

of ancapball is a law-giver on his property he can change law and enslave everyone at his property


 No.79108

>>79105

>of ancapball is a law-giver

He isn't. No one ever said he was. Read Rothbard. You probably haven't even read proper secondary literature about him.


 No.79117

File: 7bc455ff6d816b1⋯.png (51.26 KB, 892x269, 892:269, Greenies.PNG)

>>79103

>green party


 No.79119

>>79117

Ancapistan is pedo paradise


 No.79122

>>79103

Wait you mean the bread is free? Awesome! What do you mean I only get one loaf a week and am banned from trading outside your bread distributor?


 No.79126

>>79122

I mean, that IS ancap philosophy, since all competing bread distributors are evicted from the property…


 No.79129

>>79126

Whos property? Their own? Certainly not.


 No.79131

>>79129

Yes. Their own. That's why it mentioned "competing."


 No.79132

>>79131

Why is a bread company selling their bread from another bread companies land? They just sell it on their own land or in a market.


 No.79135

>>79132

>Why is a bread company selling their bread from another bread companies land?

>Awesome! What do you mean I only get one loaf a week and am banned from trading outside your bread distributor?

…soooo…. now we're back to square one.


 No.79141

>>79135

Your style is fucking atrocious, and reads like you came here straight from reddit.


 No.79149

>>79135

>…soooo…. now we're back to square one.

What? You are not banned from going to another bread distributor. You just go down the street.


 No.79167

>>79149

>You just go down the street.

…and lose your job, your home, and everything you own for not buying from the company store! Great!


 No.79186

>>79167

Why? You worked for them for twelve years, you're the best electrician they can find, and the boss would rather not fire you over spending one dollar at a store other than his, as the costs of working in a new electrician are much, much higher.

He also considers closing the company-bakery. He's making losses, you see, as the costs for upkeep are simply too high for what profit it makes. Only workers buy there and they increasingly buy fold from the bakery twenty feet away. Not like you can watch them at all times, hiring trained spies is another extra expense you can't make if you wanna stay competitive. And the reason why that bakery outside exists in the first place is because all the other companies realized that they would save costs by investing in one large bakery for them all instead of every company maintaining its own.

Throwing assumptions out is a game more than one can play, anon.


 No.79192

>people will work for a company even though it forces them to buy its shitty bread!

>this strategy is feasible and competitive even though it requires the company to efficiently produce everything its workers may need AND spy on them!

I have to give it to you, this is the first time I've seen a statist argue that capitalism creates breadlines, so bonus points for originality. You still failed spectacularly and the reddit spacing proved your faggotry, though.


 No.79193


 No.79194

>>79192

>I have to give it to you, this is the first time I've seen {bullshit slur omitted}. argue that capitalism creates breadlines

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_Acts


 No.79195

>>79194

Nothing like the model for Lenin's state capitalism to liven things up…

…of course, you'll probably get a wave of "no true capitalism."


 No.79197

>>79195

So because Lenin called it state capitalism, it is legitimate capitalism, yet national socialism is not socialism, even though that's what it's called?


 No.79207

>>79197

Lenin did not call it "state capitalism", his critics did.


 No.79208

>>79207

Same difference. Just because a bunch of lefties label anything they don't like as "state capitalism" doesn't mean we're under any obligation to treat Lenin as remotely capitalist.


 No.79210

>So because Lenin called it state capitalism, it is legitimate capitalism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_Acts

>yet national socialism is not socialism

No, it's nazbol, tankie, stalinist. Synonyms.

Stalin cliqued up Franco in Spain to promote Leninist "democratic centralism."

Stalin cliqued up with Hitler to run joint gas van exercies in Poland.

Unlike communism or socialism, Marxist-Leninism is Marxist.

That is what that shit means. The book is called "das kapital," just so you know, but we're not sure the shit done to promote (and implement) the truck system is itself the truck system.

Hi?


 No.79323

>>79210

>dat reddit spacing

Now I know why people find it so annoying.




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