/liberty/ - Liberty

>Texas turning blue

I have strong doubt of that.

>>75233

Texan here, can confirm.

I live in a blue state and I feel torn on whether to vote for the Republicans to unfuck things since they might have a better shot than the libertarian party here. Granted I dislike the Republican party on the national level but I just want my state to be unfucked.

>>75254

The LP is nothing more than dudeweed Democrats at this point, don't give them votes. There's a reason Rand and Ron ran as republicans.

>Red Oregon, Maine, and Vermont

>Blue Oklahoma, Mississippi, and Alabama

These are probably the worst offenders here.

>>75278

This

Oklahoma will NEVER go blue.

>muh sports teams political parties will switch

No, here is what is going to happen. The blue states will stay blue, and the red states will become blue. Then when there is enough beaners and other assorted parasites to completely outweigh the vote of the tax payer, with all of the rampant poverty that people sucking up tax dollars while not paying any tax dollars brings both political parties will throw off the guise of being different and usher us into a new socialist USA to allegedly save us from the problems that they created. Then we all starve and I execute a vape blowing /leftypol/ or /pol/, it won't matter in the end fuck like you for not being socialist enough.

>>75278

>The LP is nothing more than dudeweed Democrats at this point, don't give them votes.

This is a pretty ridiculous thing to say. Yes we did have a number of dems come over after the Bernie fallout, but we also had a number of libertarian republicans come over as well. A large portion of the republican base is still very statist even among the moderates, along with a still present heavy dose of Neo-cons and RINOS. If anything the republicans went even further to the right during the election. Praying for a decent libertarian republican to rise out from that is wishful thinking.

Johnson was a weak candidate and made the party look foolish at the end, there is no argument about that. However, the party numbers have swelled, which is a good thing. We have also had a number of sitting dems and republicans switch to the party as well. And just like any other party, there are caucuses made of different strains of libertarians. Which means that there is a more radical, more ancap leaning presence in the Libertarian party. As such they will have a far greater influence on the direction of the party, than a similar ancap presence could ever even hope to have in the republican party. The growth of the Libertarian party is essential in spreading the ideas of libertarianism regardless if it is minarchy or ancap. Endorsing the right Libertarian candidate for the next presidential election is key. Johnson was a weak speaker, but they went with him because he had a name. In our past election, names were all that mattered.

>>75724

I hope you're right because I'm starting to get concerned with the direction the party has been taking after the election.

>>75724

Did you see the same LP convention I did? The one where Mcaffee bemoaned how straight and white everyone was, while James Weeks took to doing a striptease onstage? Johnson was a weak candidate, but the people who nominated him and his socialist gun-grabber of a VP knew this about him when they made their choice. They made a conscious decision to make a bumbling, moderate retard the face of their party in an ill-fated attempt to get 5% of the vote. It's a shit party that shows no intention of getting better. Republicans aren't better by any means but at least they trigger lefties with their hatespeech.

This is the sign that democracy is not the way to change the system from within, because democracy a shit. It incentives factionalist, present-oriented behavior from its participants, and the LP is no different. You want to "change the system from within," democracy isn't the way to do it. If you're not willing to outright secede, refuse to cooperate with the state in all ways that you are able, and encourage others to do the same.