No.73385
Anarchy is:
>No government
>No transactions
>No employment
>No hierarchy
>No NAP
>No religion
>No racism
>No democracy
>No commune
>No principles
>No rules
We do not obey these things, we want to be completely free
No.73387
>>73385
So you obey the fact that you disobey these things, got it. Why not post this over on >>>/anarchy/.
No.73388
No.73389
>>73385
Post it on >>>/anarchy/. Nobody here cares about your drivel.
No.73391
>>73385
>>No principles
This is one of the many reasons of why pure anarchy is shit, and you need to add something to it, like mutualism of capitalism or even communism.
No.73402
>>73385
>>list of principles and rules
>No principles
>No rules
Wat
No.73404
>>73387
>>73402
Anarchy is the refuse of any principle or rules
No.73405
>>73391
Anarchy has no principles
No.73407
>>73405
Then you also cannot complain about principled people.
No.73409
>>73407
I can, I do what I want
No.73415
This is why I'm a voluntaryist and not an anarchist. Anarchy means "without rulers". I want order, hierarchy and family. I want there to be capitalists, leaders and monarchs. As long as it's voluntary.
No.73417
>>73404
>I refuse principles and rules
>That's the rule and principle of my anarchist nation
lol?
No.73418
>>73417
I am against any rule or principle
No.73419
>>73418
So what is the argument here? Or is there no argument and you're just repeating what you said in hopes I look away form your contradictory statement?
Here, I'll say it again:
>I refuse principles and rules
>That's my main principle opinion
No.73420
>>73419
He's just shitposting I don't know why you're replying at all.
No.73421
This has got to be the best troll we have ever had here.
No.73422
No.73423
The only downside to being an anarchist is that we refuse to obey hygiene as well. But you get used to that.
No.73425
literally not true, good shitpost
anarchist are free to obey or not obey any particular thing at their leisure, meaning any of those things could be obeyed by an anarchist and exist in anarchy at any given time
additionally some of those things just exist and would exist even without human beings, so your particular definition of anarchy is actually impossible within the current universe
No.73434
>>73422
Existence is not oppressive in itself
>>73423
Hygiene is not oppressive
>>73425
>anarchist are free to obey or not obey
The definition of being free is not obeying anything
No.73435
>>73434
DON'T' Make a post glorifying Donald Trump.
No.73436
>>73435
Don't tell me what to do
No.73437
>>73436
>Doesn't want to obey orders
>Obeys my order anyways
lol
No.73438
>>73436
I still have to obey Nature whenever I have a bowel movement. For what it's worth, it is okay to sniff the toilet paper after you wipe.
No.73459
>>73434
>The definition of being free is not obeying anything
Not at all. I'm free to obey my mother, father, pastor and king. What I'm not free to do is impose those authorities onto someone else.
Why are you so opposed to obedience, order and hierarchy? There's nothing wrong with it. If you don't want to involve yourself with it, then don't.
No.73467
>>73385
anarchy is:
>no anarchy
checkmate
No.73477
>>73437
You're misusing the word "obey"
>>73438
Rules are made by humans, nature has no rules
>>73459
If you obey someone then you are not free anymore
>>73467
Anarchy is not oppressive, it is no oppreshun
No.73508
>>73477
So you're saying I'm not allowed to obey anyone? What kind of a principle is that? What if I have children?
What is fundamentally wrong with obedience?
No.73510
>>73385
So, the law of the jungle. Any nigger can rob your crops because he wasn't productive or intelligent enough to plan ahead.
Sounds good.
No.73514
>>73477
>oppreshun
speak english
No.73515
>>73508
Anarchy has no obedience
>>73510
>nigger
fucking alt-righter
Also not an argument
>>73514
Don't tell me what to do
No.73518
No.73519
>>73518
What of these arguments are you saying is not one?
No.73532
>>73385
You don't own me, you don't get to decide what Anarchy is.
No.73533
>>73434
The Greeks discussed this a long time ago. A man who's truly free to do whatever he wants is a slave to himself. Go read The Ring of Gyges argument and Plato/Socrates' thoughts on the matter.
No.73537
>constantly lies about everything
>tells people to commit suicide
wow what a great christian!!
No.73538
>>73532
Well I did not, and don't tell me what to do
>>73533
Fuck off statist, I own myself
No.73540
>>73537
Eat a dick, you massive homo.
No.73546
No.73553
>>73546
No, it isn't. There's no general rule anywhere in the old or new testament to the effect that you always have to be nice to everyone.
>inb4 love thy neighbor
It's juvenile to equate love with being nice. The reason why parents shout at their children and not those of the neighbor is because they love the former more.
No.73559
Someone hasn't read Proudhon.
No.73577
>>73515
>Anarchy has no obedience
Fine, but what is wrong with obedience? Why can't we have it?
No.73588
>>73559
Anarchy has no mutualism
>>73577
Because we are free, we act for ourselves, we do not obey a sate
No.73589
No.73598
>>73589
What if you want to obey? Are masochist subs not allowed to be anarchists?
No.73599
>>73385
So anarchy means being a contradictory amoeba that's good for nothing except simply existing. Thanks, that explains it.
No.73602
>>73598
An anarchist is someone who refuse to obey
>>73599
Not nothing, no authority
No.73603
>>73602
>An anarchist is someone who refuse to obey
Is that a rule you obey?
No.73604
>>73603
It is not a rule, it is a fact
No.73683
>>73588
>Because we are free, we act for ourselves, we do not obey a state
What is wrong with acting for others? You do it all the time.
What is wrong with children obeying parents, workers obeying bosses and citizens obeying kings? They are free to do so.
No.73692
>>73434
>The definition of being free is not obeying anything
trying to adhere to this definition is in fact an obedience itself, good to know you are just shitposting
No.73734
No.73750
You want a pipe dream of a retard
No.73751
>>73734
Tyrannosaurus REKT
No.73786
lol fags. anarchy by definition is minimilization of the state.
read anarchy state and utopia
adversely you could just change the entire wikipedia on this matter and get ppl to join in.
what u shouldnt do is run around with a black mask putting a bad name to anarchy
what u should do is hack into peples emails and jam the locks at your local bank
No.73788
No.73794
>>73786
>read anarchy state and utopia
If you read it carefully, you'll see that he pulls his central premises from absolutrly nowhere. His compensation-principle, for example, and without it, his entire case collapses.
Also, his view of reality was consistently reductionist. As with almost all analytical philosophers.
No.73796
>>73786
In my opinion it is people like OP that put a bad name to anarchy. Anarchy basically means you should be able to do whatever you want because you are free, but instead you get a bunch of green-haired unwashed edgelords who tell YOU that you can't be religious, that you can't be a racist, that you can't be a communist or a capitalist, that you can't be anything at all and that you must be a blank slate that follows all these RULES about what anarchy is supposedly about.
These anarkiddies (because that's the name they rightfully earned) don't know the difference between freedom TO and freedom FROM. If I wanted all these rules I would go live in a totalitarian government, hell, even if I moved to North Korea I would at least be free in mind and spirit despite being physically enslaved, I wouldn't be a thought-slave to some bullshit ideals written down by some edgy teenager on the internet.
No.73972
>>73796
So like government?
No.73975
>>73972
Don't tell me what to do.
No.74086
No.74088
No.74090
Go, the nominations for Attention-Hungry Games 24 has started:
>>>/sudo/67159
No.74110
Anarchy is the end goal. Other systems can be used to get us there, then we abandon them. It's that simple. We can start today.
No.74113
No.74280
No.74284
Post-left anarchists are some of the dumbest brainlets.
This is just flat-out anti-society. Preventing exploitation of one another and the imposing of hierarchies and rulers is a project that itself requires enforcement and rules.
Your only other option is to go live on your own in the woods. Seeing as that isn't something you're particularly barred from doing, why not go do it now?
No.74285
>>74284
Fighting against authority and rules is not enforcement, it is just freedom.
>"Your only other option is to go live on your own in the woods"
Well, I don't want to
No.74286
>>74284
>why not go do it now?
Are you telling me what to do?
No.74411
>>74285
authority exists in mind only u moron
No.74430
>>74411
No, government is real
No.74453
>>74430
what is government?
No.74552
>>74459
gov restricts rich from being even richer
No.74691
Anarchy is about individual freedom. Anarcho-syndicalism is about replacing the govt with unions: i.e. not anarchism. The only real anarchism is individualist.
No.74694
>>74280
Make it happen homie 💉
No.74724
No.74736
>>74724
>A government is the system or group of people governing an organized community, often a state.[1]
is boss a government XD ?
No.74741
>>74736
Yes, but a privately and voluntary form of government. Kinda why some organizations have what they call a "Board of Governors." One the other hand, the government of the state is non-voluntary.
No.74783
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>>73385
Wrong.
Anarchy = NO RULES
IT MEANS FUCK YOU.
It also means a contested zone of control, of one where external governmental control is absent like space or the high seas.
No.74850
>>74736
Yes
>>74741
Property ownership is a legal status
>>74783
This is what I said: no rules
No.74932
>>74285
>Well, I don't want to
it is not my problem
No.74999
No.75403
ok but you don't have the authority to tell me not be racist or sexist or be religious even implying those things exist. while we're at things like: consent laws, laws against murder, extortion, need I go on? shouldn't exist either. implying anything even exists, including even the fact we exist or anything else does, let alone rights for anyone for that matter, friendo. you want be a dick I can be a bigger dick. your turn moralist…
No.75431
No.75438
>>75431
You don't have to obey. Just remain the good soyboy cuck that you are.
No.75443
>>75431
that's ok, rights are a stupid concept anyways, might as well just rob and kill you. liberalism ruined anarchism.
No.75448
>>73385
Sounds like autotheism
No.75449
>>74552
Well it does enrich its cronies through protectionism and corporatist laws that are presented as regulations.
No.75469
>>75449
if you wanna get rich just Rob a synagogue. they have plenty of "assets".
No.75470
>>75448
autotheism is basically anarcho-Narcissism the next step in the evolution of Egoist thought
No.75471
>>75448
>>75470
If you heretics at least pretended to care about logic and rationality, but nope. You've thrown that out, too.
No.75472
>>75471
I think the soy's fucking with their head, m8))))
No.75516
No.75517
>>75516
I have a cock. good luck getting one of those.
No.75518
>>75471
rationalism is cancer. logic is fine. feelings really don't matter.
No.75519
>>73515
arguments are just useless nowadays. who needs principles when you can have anarchy and justify anything by being a prick?
No.75520
>>73391
>>73405
if anarchy has no principles why do you care if someone is xenophobic/racist/sexist? should honestly be none of your business.
No.75523
>>73418
So you are ok with the murderous hunters. Got it!
No.80572
No.80574
>>80572
Which is why nuclear weapons will be an important part of libertarian society
No.80576
>>73385
>No government
Okay, I'll bite. Anarchy = an (no) + archē (rulers). This one passes.
>No transactions
This one doesn't pass. Archē ≠ transaction.
>No employment
Mm, kinda. If you think of it as a boss coming into your house and telling you what to do, then sure, this passes. Most employment is showing up to a job site to trade your labor for money though, so it doesn't.
>No hierarchy
Well, hierarchy has archē in it, so we can't have that, can we?
>No NAP
Archē ≠ non-aggression. Doesn't pass.
>No religion
Depends on the religion.
>No racism
Archē ≠ racism. Doesn't pass.
>No democracy
Well, kratos ≠ archē, but since democracy inevitably leads to power structures, sure, this passes.
>No commune
Communes are disorganized mobs of workers, which don't have leaders (archē), so this one doesn't pass.
>No principles
Archē ≠ principle. Doesn't pass.
>No rules
Archē = ruler; no ruler, no rules. Passes.
No.80587
>>80572
Now why the fuck did you go ahead and bump this shit thread again?
No.80629
>>80576
>no ruler, no rules
It is entirely possible to have rules without a ruler: I can impose rules on myself.
No.80644
>>73577
because having principals is gay
No.80645
>>80587
to specifically piss you, just you, off
No.80825
>>74284
no you're thinking of anarcha-feminists. in a truly anarchist society it's might means right and there's no ways around it
No.80826
>>75471
might is right can co-exist with Christianity and if you think otherwise you're below my realm of thought
No.80834
>>80629
Then you would be the ruler. So your statement is false.
No.80883
>>80834
That's a bit of a stretch, to be honest. You're essentially saying that autarchy and autocracy are identical. If a person is not in control of their own actions, then either they are being controlled by someone else, or they are some maximum-time-preference monstrosity that would make a mayfly look like a competent long-term planner.
No.81116
>>73385
No. Anarchy is freedom to do whatever you wish.
The old definition of anarchy is gone. Welcome the new definition.
No.81120
>>74459
"Oh look, we have to take care of 323 million people in a 3 million square miles. How do you think we should go about it fellas?
"Gosh, we started with everyone sharing the traditional belief in race, religion, and nation. But now they're all obsessed with the jewish tricks. We can't even trust them anymore, I don't think we can have our backs turned"
"Well we do have all that fancy surveillance and law enforcement"
Like bro how would you control the masses? If we had a country that founded its citizenship on race, blood, and land instead of social contracts like its becoming then there wouldn't be need for criminals and wealth would actually become a real thing for everyone again. Everything is perspective you fucking noggin.
No.81189
Anarchy is:
>faggotry
>disorder
>destruction
>discord
>chaos
>autism
>stupidity
>pointlessness
>kosher
>degeneration
>entropy
>heresy
>wrong
>bad
No.81190
>>81189
Animalism, irresponsibly, emotive, normalfag, weak, mindless, sightless, short-sighted, evil, slaanesh warship, nurgle loving, khorneriffic, primitive, barbaric, etc
No.81475
>>81190
just the way I like it
No.81524
>>81189
>>81190
>worshiping a literal corpse on a malfunctioning life support device
>instead of worshiping active, living, gift-bearing gods
I really don't get it. You can have whatever your heart desires, yet it seems you desire suffering and wallowing in filth.
No.85411
>>75520
Anarchy has no segregation.
>>75523
People can defend themselves.
>>80629
Anarchy has no rules.
>>81189
>>81190
We know how to behave in public, we don't need instructions
No.85412
>>85411
gtfo outta here, you edgy faggot.
>inb4 don't tell me wat 2 do
No.85413
>>85411
>No rules but you are not allowed to be racist or the anarchy government will come enforce anarchy law under our anarchy system of government.]
No.85426
>>85413
Anarchy has no government.
We will not obey segregation.
No.85576
No.87992
>>73385
No.
You need to read some theory, not listen to some punk band or wherever you get these ideas.
Anarchism is a challenge to all unwarranted hierarchies, and an expression of as much freedom/liberty and freedom as one can get.
The A and the O of the anarchist symbol stands for anarchy through order. It is thought that we the people can organize ourselves much better than some authoritarian(s)
Direct democracies can and should be used by anarchists whenever need be. The individualists can participate or not, but the commune/community will not be kept from forming as you will not be kept from forming your own principals.
There is no capitalism in anarchism. "Free markets" enslave people. Get bent Ayncaps.
>>73532
That's not very Christian of you.
Go repent and prey for forgiveness or something.