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 No.73202

If we have a country that don't have a massive debt, Would you even care about politics as like you are today? For instance, if all your expenses such as your tax, mortgage, healthcare or things you would like to buy are reasonably cheap, I doubt anyone of you would even care about left and right politics. Assuming your living standard wasn't so shit, you can always find away to mitigate real life problem with the wealth you have. The irony is neither leftist or natsocks fully understand who's their real enemy is. In reality, It doesn't matter who runs the government. The fact that the central bank and its system is there, it's gonna bring your living standard down no matter what.

 No.73204

Any sufficiently large bank is a problem. The solution is to end the FDIC and hold shareholders personally accountable for their share of a company's liability as well as its profit. Those two changes will make it infeasible to operate a bank on a national or multinational scale, and we'll be left with a robust network of local credit unions instead of two dozen single points of failure for the entire world economy.


 No.73206

>>73202

>If we have a country that don't have a massive debt, Would you even care about politics as like you are today?

Sure I would. I only figured out what's wrong with my country being in debt long after I figured out that the state is reprehensible in all other regards.

>if all your expenses such as your tax, mortgage, healthcare or things you would like to buy are reasonably cheap, I doubt anyone of you would even care about left and right politics. Assuming your living standard wasn't so shit, you can always find away to mitigate real life problem with the wealth you have.

The problem isn't the objective living standard. Historically, almost no one lived worse than people do nowadays, at least materially. The reason why people are outraged if they cannot afford to buy a new car every three months, as opposed to every six months, is because they think (for the right or wrong reasons) that this is because someone is unjustly holding them down.


 No.73207

>>73206

>Dat name

Coming from >>>/monarchy/.


 No.73214

>>73202

>If we have a country that don't have a massive debt, Would you even care about politics as like you are today?

I'd still care. Wanting Liberty doesn't reduce to wanting an easy life.


 No.73216

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>>73214

Every night, I can feel my natural rights. It won't stop hurting. It's like they're all still there.


 No.73225

>>73202

us national debt is not a debt of individual, one can become a citizen of other country and get rid of the us national debt problem


 No.73242

>>73225

Which country would you move to where their debt is lower?


 No.73288

>>73242

i dont care about public debt tbh


 No.73320

>>73202

>If we have a country that don't have a massive debt, Would you even care about politics as like you are today? For instance, if all your expenses such as your tax, mortgage, healthcare or things you would like to buy are reasonably cheap, I doubt anyone of you would even care about left and right politics.

As long as the government is in the way of me snorting coke off a newborn's bald forehead, the government is in the way and needs to go.

Joke aside, expensive/cheap goods aren't even the full issue. You can have cheap goods and still be living in a shitty authoritarian hellhole, it's just less likely since cheap goods tend to be associated with a more free society.


 No.73321

>>73204

I agree to an extent, but shareholders are just investors. Unless the shareholder holds some sort of special privilege such as making direct changes in the structure of the bank itself, they aren't really an issue and are bystanders like everyone else (just making more money off the system). Without federal and state involvement, there's not even really an issue with fractional banking since the bank/credit union performing it will fail if they aren't responsible.

>>73288

Public debt is used as an excuse to force favours and favourable outcomes where they normally wouldn't pass, leading to all sorts of issues down the line. If someone wants to hold private debt and all that entails, that's their own business. Public debt is a nuisance on the citizenry.


 No.73345

>>73321

i want to be a nomade


 No.73365

I don't care about politics, anarchy has no politics


 No.73366

>>73365

You do care, or else you wouldn't use the term anarchy.


 No.73367

>>73366

Anarchy is no politics, because no hierarchy


 No.73369

>>73367

But you labeled yourself, so you care, sweetie.


 No.73371

>>73369

Anarchy is not a political movement


 No.73401

>>73367

Enforcing a hierarchy makes you a statist.


 No.73406


 No.73427

my living standards are pretty fucking good, I am fat from my gluttony and sloth, I have a space of my own, I am prepared for emergencies, I am comfortable, I can buy expensive things on a whim, I am shitposting on an old computer because the parts that I am having delivered to my doorstop have yet to arrive

and all this while pretty close to destitute

none of these things change what is right and what is wrong


 No.73472

>>73401

nope lol


 No.73493

>>73472

Yes, sweetie lol


 No.73498

>>73472

Anarchy has no hierarchy


 No.73545

>>73498

Enforcing a non-hierarchical system is not anarchy.


 No.73548

>>73545

Well I don't know what your point is but you are right


 No.73551

>>73498

But you said it has no rules. If I lock you up in a cellar because I feel like it, then I don't follow rules. So, which is it? Am I allowed to create a hierarchical relationship or not?


 No.73566

>>73548

The point is that anarchy can have hierarchy.


 No.73578

>>73498

> anarchy has no rules

> Proceeds to make a giant list of rules

What's up with all the shitposting?


 No.73587

>>73551

You can try, but we will not obey

>>73566

Hierarchy is statism

>>73578

What rules?




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