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File: 5f31bc18f242d85⋯.jpg (74.49 KB, 640x632, 80:79, Oligopoly-features.jpg)

 No.72436

Wouldn't AnCap be mostly Oligopolistic in nature because newly privatized industries like defense and forensics companies would still have barriers to entry like paying for expensive equipment or employing highly trained people. I feel like for a group that loves to berate the left for "being economically illiterate", hardly ever talks about real economic concepts such as this. Many Libertarians and AnCaps have this view that everything under Anarcho-Capitalism would just be perfect competition where anybody could enter any industry at any time and start a business. There is also the fact that oligopolies exist in unregulated markets like video games with a few firms like EA, Ubisoft, and Activision. Who, own their own, can do enough damage to cause the industry to crash. I could picture a scenario where a DRO might end up in conflict with a forensics company over rights over a crime scene or evidence in a terrorist attack kind of how video game developers and publishers will often squabble over various game project rights and deadlines.

 No.72438

Anarcho-capitalists have blind faith in free markets, they are unable to see their very clear faults. You are wasting your time.


 No.72439

>>72436

>Wouldn't AnCap be mostly Oligopolistic in nature because newly privatized industries like defense and forensics companies would still have barriers to entry like paying for expensive equipment or employing highly trained people.

Are you the same OP who asked that anarchocapitalism cannot deal with water property? Yes, this sentence sounded nonsensical, but it captures the essence of hiding definite statements behind questions.

Anyway, barriers to entry exist in any industry. You always have to pay for capital up front, and then find your place in the market. This is the triviality you're expressing here. What's more interesting is what you do not spell out: Your two premises, that the barriers to entry would

>I feel like for a group that loves to berate the left for "being economically illiterate", hardly ever talks about real economic concepts such as this.

Nigger. Murray Rothbard wrote two books on pure economics with more than a thousand pages each. Did you read them? I know people that did. Plenty have read Mises' primary work of a thousand pages, too, including me. Don't start a pissing contest, unless you have a masters degree and have read at least one of the books I mentioned.

>Many Libertarians and AnCaps have this view that everything under Anarcho-Capitalism would just be perfect competition where anybody could enter any industry at any time and start a business.

Actually, we don't care about perfect competition. Mises debunked that concept in Human Action, and none of us are too keen on reviving it. The only thing you've demonstrated here is that you don't even know our lingo.

>There is also the fact that oligopolies exist in unregulated markets like video games with a few firms like EA, Ubisoft, and Activision. Who, own their own, can do enough damage to cause the industry to crash.

Oh boy. These are big firms, they're not oligopolies. They cannot crash the market on their own. They're the only ones producing AAA-titles, sure, but these titles are still competing with literally tens of thousands of others, made by over a hundred studios.

>I could picture a scenario where a DRO might end up in conflict with a forensics company over rights over a crime scene or evidence in a terrorist attack kind of how video game developers and publishers will often squabble over various game project rights and deadlines.

And I can imagine a conflict between the local police department and the FBI. I can also imagine them not even doing their job in the first place because they'll get paid anyway.


 No.72440

>>72438

Sure not samefag.


 No.72445

>>72436

Companies would be oligopolistic so much as there are certain barrier entries into a field and someone would have to justify spending their money or someone else's contractually acquired money in order to bring in a greater profit later. What you need to keep in mind is that most initial costs are shit the government requires, not necessarily shit that's needed. If I want to open a health clinic, I just need a couple nurses who are good at diagnosing symptoms, and maybe one pharmacist or physician who can either whip up the drugs, or provide a letter of recommendation/prescription to a specialist for more serious health issues. I don't need the AMA breathing down ny neck/threatening me if I don't work in a strict hospital environment, and I can still be sued for malpractice if I'm performing butcher shop surgery (actually much more easily).

It comes down to incentive, and yes, companies aren't expected to be perfect. We're not preventing King Soopers from ripping you off $3 on your groceries because they have good infrastructure, we're preventing the VA from fucking you over on healthcare, or Comcast/Centurylink from having exclusive rights to laying and using network lines.

>Vidya

We live in a time when an indie dev made millions off a physics engine where you control a piece of bread. No excuses.

>>72438 (OP)

>>>/pol/

If we had blind faith in unsustainable systems we'd be NEETSocs or Commies.


 No.72446

>>72445

Put another way since I doubt the window lickers have the time to read that…

>What are business loans/shareholders


 No.72448

>>72436

there is nothing wrong in oligopoly in ancap


 No.72449

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>>72436

> would just be perfect competition

Haven't heard of even one Libertarian ever do as much as imply anything of the sort. Please, either point to specific people or avoid general opinions that can't be proven or disproven.

The ONLY people that want and talk of "perfect competition" under any sort of form are Chicago School economists.

"I feel like for a group that loves to berate the left for "being economically illiterate", hardly ever talks about real economic concepts such as this."

We talk about it fairly often. Stop being new. Just stop. You don't know Libertarians.


 No.72453

>>72449

>We talk about it fairly often. Stop being new. Just stop. You don't know Libertarians.

This, really. I tried out all kinds of different economic schools, but have yet to meet a Marxist or a Keynesian who bothered to learn even the absolute basics of Austrian Economics. It's so bad, they cannot even step outside the confines of their own terminology when you ask them to.


 No.72456

>>72436

It sounds like you just finished an intro to microeconomics course with your use of oligopoly and perfect competition, but you really don't know much else about economics because otherwise you'd know microeconomics textbooks are written from a fundamentally different approach to economics than an Austrian School economist would. >>72439 already expressed everything I was going to critique (and probably better too the FBI and local police example was pretty good).


 No.72468

>>72453

It's the same newfag who posts about two "gotcha" threads a day and thinks he knows all Libertarians because he's seen You Tube celebs who used the label at some point.


 No.72476

Anarchy has no companies


 No.72479

>>72476

go back to leftypol you fucking commie


 No.72483

>>72479

Not an argument


 No.72486

>>72476

>>72479

he is right, "company" is a strange bit of legalese that wouldnt exist

there are only individuals who may or may not work together


 No.72495

Oh look it's this thread again.


 No.72507

>>72476

>>72486

Stop that. Ancap has no Corporations, that's the legal entity created by the government. Any group of people more than one can be referred to as a company (some would even say one person can be). It's just a word meaning "group" and is handy for identifying groups working towards certain goals, such as making lots of money selling cereal, making video games, farming, or whatever. It's a word similar to band. But you could literally just replace company or band with group and nothing changes, not the same with Corporation.


 No.72707

>>72507

Anarchy has no trade, no money, we will not obey


 No.72739

>>72707

also no food


 No.72814

>>72739

I thought that was communism?


 No.72817

>>72814

Anarcho-communism


 No.72858

>>72707

Cool. Have fun with that when the McNuke Heavy Water Cannons come out re-purposing irradiated water.


 No.72872

>>72739

Why not?

If I want food I will eat


 No.72892

>>72872

will you eat the borgoueise?


 No.72956

File: c9cee9c68c2e7f5⋯.png (215.38 KB, 274x480, 137:240, modest proposal bourgeoise.png)


 No.72967

>>72892

I will eat what I want, anarchy is complete freedom


 No.73003

>>72967

complete freedom is impossible faggot


 No.73011

>>73003

It is possible if we do not obey


 No.73040

>>73011

>we

fucking collectivist sheep

kys


 No.73075

>>73040

I will not kms, i do not obey


 No.73076

File: 91506a5568a509d⋯.jpg (79.8 KB, 683x532, 683:532, Christchan not amused.jpg)

>>73040

>Christmas

>kys


 No.73098

>>73076

Religions are silly as h*ck!


 No.73133

>>73098

You can do better. Explain to me why they're wrong. That you think they're silly, I already knew from your first comment.


 No.73165

Anarchy has no religion


 No.73177

>>73165

anarchy is your religion


 No.73179

>>73177

It is not a religion


 No.73182

>>73179

it is your idee fixe


 No.73184

>>73182

Not an argument


 No.73296

File: 22eaf3b19c6c716⋯.jpg (131.21 KB, 1100x914, 550:457, 1434892776119.jpg)

>>72872

>If I want food I will eat

that commie deluded wishfull thinking


 No.73299

>>73296

Why so?


 No.73511

>>73299

i will not tell you

it will be a suprise


 No.73517

>>73511

Which means you have no arguments


 No.73543

>>73184

Anarchy is a spook.


 No.73544

>>73543

'youre mom gay' -mack sterner


 No.73549

>>73543

Anarchy is no spooks


 No.73558

>>73549

Assertions are spooks


 No.73592

>>73558

Libertarianism is a spook


 No.73593

>>73558

ur dad's a spook


 No.73627

File: c9f7f516da103d7⋯.mp4 (143.84 KB, 480x360, 4:3, well that's and excuse i c….mp4)


 No.74084

>>73549

are you a nigger? cant you speak english?


 No.74281

>>74084

Don't tell me how to speak


 No.74291

>>74281

> giving rules to other people

Shame on you.


 No.74292

File: 9f355b5b87e4344⋯.jpg (24.79 KB, 876x1021, 876:1021, 9f355b5b87e434413122876504….jpg)

>>74291

DON'T SHAME ME YOU FUCKING PIG


 No.74323

>>74281

reported for shitposting


 No.74340

>>74323

This isn't /pol/ you fucking rulecuck cocksucking cockfaggot.


 No.74404

>>74340

it is not /cancer/ either


 No.74405

>>74404

it pretty much is


 No.74414

>>74404

Reported for rulecuckery.


 No.74432

>>74291

I don't give rules, I defend my liberty




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