/liberty/ - Liberty

Libertarians don't have principles they just want to be rich. They do this shit on every issue about power.

>>72290

are we talking about the libertarian party? because the libertarian party is just gay weed lmao

if you look at the board just a little bit before shitposting you might see that we in fact do not like the police state, unless you have shitposed the board enough for actual topics to have been slid

>>72289

"Niggers" exaggerate so much it's near impossible to be on their side.

We talk about the Law, and in particular private Law and Protection all the damn time. Are you just new and bitching or this is genuine bait? No Libertarian likes cops as they are and nobody hates on cops just for their function.

>>72290

>Libertarians don't have principles

>Libertarians are cucks for obeying said principles

Why not just shitpost on tankiepol?

>>72293

You are confusing me with someone else.

I don't think OP understand what libertarianism is or what principles it holds.

>>72299

It reads like a rant/blogging rather than real critique.

>>72299

Where was I wrong in my post?

>>72306

Well for starter, Libertarians are big advocate for property rights. Which cops are biggest violators of. I honestly think you got us confused with Conservatives, which we're not. Cops are not here to protect you, they're law enforcement and they will enforce the law ethical or not. We recognize this a threat to our liberties and are against it.

Video related start at 12:47, Climax at 16:45

>>72311

Well then you're one of the principled non cucked lolberts. I was talking about lolberts on 4pol and youtube who suck off the alt right without pause.

>>72312

Thing is about libertarianism is that it doesn't really have any doctrine on identity politics. Hence why you have a socially liberal libertarian and a socially conservative libertarian. We recognize freedom of association, allowing individual to interact with who they want to.

>>72312

We, and I believe also the grownups at the Mises Institute, are at the very least suspicious of cops. This is also the opinion a libertarian must hold in the current times to be consistent. Sometimes, the cops are acting as the good guys, like when they catch serial killers or protect property from rioters. A consistent libertarian must acknowledge that too, but it doesn't change the general verdict that right now, cops in most countries are oppressors first, protectors a distant second.

>>72312

>lolberts on 4pol

No such creatures exist on any pol anymore.

>who suck off the alt right

Cantwell is not a Libertarian. For the last fucking time. Nor are any of his followers. End this sad meme.

>>72313

Also this. While we mostly share the same ethics (with some exceptions, and the divide is growing bigger nowadays), we have different morals. Libertarianism is quite heterogenous. You have libertines and reactionaries, egalitarians and elitists, and atheists and christians, and they can all qualify as libertarians. Some combinations, of course, are quite confused, but not contradictory in a strict sense.

>>72289

I've made a whole OP on this in the past, but it basically boils down to cops are voluntarily training and signing up for a job to abuse people when other security-based hobs exist that are more lawful and moral (fuck, even prison guards are more morally justified than a cop), and even being fully aware of their conscious decision to harm others, they still have the choice to enforce laws (it's NOT mandatory) and they CHOOSE to enforce corrupt laws.

>>72331

It was released yesterday.

>>72332

Yeah, I know, but it happened over a year ago, I'd think I would of at least heard of it or something.

>>72333

That's one thing in particular that scares me. It's not like there's a popular outcry whenever this happens. There's so many of these cases that we just don't hear anything about until a year or two later, if at all. Good guess how many of them never get known.

>>72334

Even on the comments of the video you have people saying that it was the murdered person's fault for being murdered for not following the instructions exactly. Some people I guess just want a world where you can be murdered at any time for not following the instructions of police officer? I don't see how that's anything more than just slavery.

It's not even just the police, the USA military kills on a global scale and imprisons and torturers people and being against USA imperialism is like this… Controversial opinion, for some reason. I guess it's clear that ideas like freedom and justice are meaningless platitudes for most Americans. It's frustrating.

Obligatory vid.

>>72321

>they still have the choice to enforce laws (it's NOT mandatory) and they CHOOSE to enforce corrupt laws.

I thought about being a cop once but decided against it for this reason. I'd only do what I feel is right let's ignore that I'd be getting paid from taxdollars for just this discussion and busting some dumb ass kid with some weed or some guy who decided he wanted to build a Luty in his garage just didn't sit right with me. The people who make it as cops are the ones willing to be assholes busting people who haven't done any harm so I figured I wouldn't last long.

>>72311

if americans didn't have the 2nd amendment the police would have killed them all by now, lol

Where the fuck did you pull this accusation from? I've hardly heard of self-identified "libertarians" copsucking, especially in this current era of police power.

There are some people like Alex Jones, who now shill for cops and didn't before, but he's not a libertarian.

>>73660

wikipedia says he is a paleolibertarian

>>73712

Jones isn't very much about ideology, he literally just follows the money trail. That's why he constantly shills for Trump, even after most prominent paleolibertarians went after him for Syria strike.

>>73712

Wikepedia should be taken with a few kilos of salt when you're reading about anything remotely related to current events.

They enforce the NAP.

If the state doesn't do that it's called anarchy instead of libertarianism.

>>73764

>They enforce the NAP.

If only this were true in practice.

>>73761

why?

>>73769

A couple reasons.

1. Wikepedia editors are predominantly spergouts and NEETS, whose only purpose in life is watch their pet articles like hawks, and undo any "unapproved" edits. This works fine for articles like the history of rubber manufacturing in Guatemala, because the person with the most autism over that subject is also likely the most knowledgeable. For current events/political articles, this means the editor will remove anything that hurts his feelings or goes against his ideology.

2. Wikepedia's editing rules and guidelines are of a complexity that rivals the US tax code. Because of this, chances are you're breaking at least one rule with any kind of edit you make, which means that any passing admin is within his rights to undo your edit if he doesn't like it. So, controversial pages will eventually take the form that the admin wills it.

Unsurprisingly, chronically unemployed spergouts tend to be of a leftist bent. Combine that with the leftist tendency to view oneself as "awsum revolutionary fightan the EVIL BIGOTS" and you have mostly leftist editors under the purview of mostly leftist and highly incestuous admins. If you want an example of this, check out hot-button pages like Breitbart, Trump, etc., as well as their edit history. For bonus points, compare those pages to their equivalents on Infogalactic (a fork of Wikepedia that tries to be more "neutral" with varying degrees of success).