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 No.70145

do you attend to facultative lectures etc at university? are they fulll of (((cultural marxism)))

 No.70147

I studied law, and there aren't many cultural marxists in it. I guess it's the performance pressure. Grades run from 0 to 18, but only 20% or so get a grade of 9 or better. If there's an outlier in your class, you'll know it. That should be scary enough to snowflakes, but you're also expected to be capable of performing later as a lawyer, judge or prosecutor, or in a similar field. You even get graded by them in the finals, and that happens twice. So if the fourty year old cis white male in front of you who normally interrogates Hells Angels thinks that you're shit, too bad. The methodology and way of thinking is not good for snowflakes, either. Perhaps the most valuable skill that I honed during my studies was that of analyzing legal texts. That means dealing with semantics like a motherfucker, figuring out contradictions in texts, understanding their systematic and so on.

Doesn't mean the legal field isn't suffering from some severe problems. As it's so intertwined with the state, the field is, naturally, quite statist. Our methodology is also defective, in some ways. We often get hung up on theoretical disputes that really just hide ideological ones, yet we don't like to admit that. We also have some premises that we never question, for example that economic interventionism works. If you do not accept that premise, you can basically throw away entire legal codes, but that is not an option if you're in court and I almost never saw it in discussions of a theoretical nature either. You have to assume that there are such things as natural monopolies or power disparities between workers and bosses to even interpret some laws.


 No.70153

Not really tbh, I commute so if I have a long break between classes I usually skip them and read the material at home. Doing that with my circuits and physics class right now.


 No.70156

No. I usually do what this anon said >>70153

Some of my teachers are actually into commoditized culture so I'm not sure if there are any cultural Marxists at my school. I do know of a classical Marxist in my English lit class.

Physics major here.


 No.70157

>>70145

Our "theory of humor" classes involved "analyzing" John Oliver's Late Night Show. I couldn't believe I was forced to sign up for a class in being smug. Nearly 80% of our linguistics classes involved studying Chomsky, though his theory isn't significantly left leaning, all the professors using him were.


 No.70159

>>70157

I think you may like this podcast

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=28s&v=8SPD35ETwuk

What about Cromsky's works do you think is left wing?

The cult of personality of this guy is pretty much what is killing the field.


 No.70162

>>70156

Not memeing, I doubt that you would find a "cultural marxist" in the natural sciences. I have a natsci degree, and I never had that kind of experience in my four years of undergraduate education. I did have a sociology of science professor who was a little too reverent of Steven Jay Gould, though. I will say, based on secondhand accounts, the coastal universities have a growing infestation of neo-marxists in the social sciences many of which can be succinctly described as cultural marxists, while the humanities have had a stubborn contingent of "post-modernists," although I'm dubious of how much you can actually consider that to be a unified group.


 No.70163

>>70159

Mainly his political views outside of his actual area of expertise. Regarding his linguistics, the problem arises from his disciples characterizing all current debate on the subject as between the positions of an orthodox adherence to his own writings and Lacan-esque post-structuralists. Naturally, most people unfamiliar to linguistics who post here would probably take him over the frogs.


 No.70171

>>70159

I'll check it out after work. I cared far less about Linguistics when it was relevant to my education. Now I want to address some remarks on epistemology related to language formation and acquisition. Specifically referring to Rand's Objectivist epistemology. She uses examples of language use, structure and acquisition, while referencing no studies to back her premises. I don't want to leave that hanging as it provides an easy target, so I'd rather examine it myself, if need be correct, or scrap it all with proper argumentation. If I'm autistic enough, after a few years I'll have enough notes and unedited essays to write a treatise nobody would publish or read.


 No.70204

No I study accounting. Not much other than occasionally two of my professors mention their dislike of Trump. Ironically enough I had one professor who was a Bernie supporter. He seemed friendly enough even though I didn't agree with his politics.


 No.70220

>>70204

are you a Jew?


 No.70228


 No.70247

>>70228

too bad


 No.70258

>>70247

Does being a jew give one better accounting skills?


 No.70263

>>70258

No, but it means that other jewish accountants are more likely to pick him, than some goy.


 No.70393


 No.70421

today i was at lecture of pc sjw professor and it was supposed to be a lecture with elements of a conversatorium so i argued with him a bit

there were students girls with dreadlocks so im pretty sure they are those rapefugees welcome type of girls

soon i will attend another lecture but this research center is mainly philosophical and i like hard sciences more with at least a bit of intellectual rigour


 No.70666

>>70393

why are intellectuals leftists?


 No.70672

>>70666

There's the standard ancap response, but I also have my own theories. And then there is the historical aspect.

The standard ancap response is that intellectuals are naturally inclined to be in bed with the state. If you write good apologetics, you're practically guaranteed to find tenure somewhere. That perfectly explains guys like Rawls, Galbraith or Keynes whose theories are without any merit, but all the more popular. It also explains why Mises or Rothbard had such problems establishing themselves in the US despite being intellectual giants. It doesn't explain the leftists that are agitators or even terrorists, although it's still possible to account for them. Not like there must be only one reason why leftists feel so at home in academics.

My own theories are that modern academia is about armchair intellectualism and leftists love that shit. As I like to describe it, many academicians are like high-powered supercomputers that play Minecraft all day long. They may have the raw processing power to come up with incredibly intricate systems and they love to do so, but they lack in other virtues: Humility, courage, even wisdom. Most economists outside the Austrian School seem to have thought exactly fifty minutes of their lifes about methodology. They run their entire career without knowng the basics of what they're doing, and after their dissertations, of course they don't feel like admitting that everything they have written up to that point was straw. And some of them are openly intellectually dishonest, like Keynes and Galbraith, but lack of character seldom ruins a career in academics.

Historically, the Soviets infiltrated western academia. It's not even a secret anymore. The KGB has admitted it, the documents are out too, I think, but it's still called a conspiracy theory. Which of course it would be, whether it's wrong or right. Before them, the Fabians - a socialist movement - already infiltrated it for the purpose of changing the system from within. They were quite successful, judging by our political climate.


 No.70686

>>70672

I always thought that intellectuals tended to be leftists because they want to fix perceived wrongs in society socially and economically. I think this tendency naturally leads to placing oneself in the role of a dictator who can reorganize society to how they see fit. Because most intellectuals and academics are drawn to this they will propagate works based on these ideas which inspire more leftists. I don't know if this is what you were getting at, they seem a little similar, sorry if this is a little redundant.


 No.70694

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>>70686

I think Hayek and Mises had a similar thought, that intellectuals tend to view society from the perspective of an engineer who has a machine that isn't working and just needs to administer the right fix. There's some overlap with what I thought but not that much. You're good.


 No.70695

Funny enough I just encountered an anti-Trump rally yesterday. It was surreal since I hear about them but never got the chance to see one. It was basically what i expected.


 No.70706

>>70695

what was it then?


 No.70734

>>70706

It was this group called J20 bitching about Trump and speaking to their audience about how bad he is and how immigration helps. Also they said they are anti-fascist. It was basically a circle jerk.


 No.70735

>>70734

Also, they had one person do this impression of Trump.


 No.70738

>>70734

They seem to be helping out the neoliberal establishment by doing that.

Fuck them.


 No.70750

>>70734

>and how immigration helps

how?


 No.70753

>>70750

Go back to /pol/, racist.


 No.70755

>>70753

>social democrats are democratic socialists according to this board

Didn't know the bo was this much of a idiot.

Sage for off topic.


 No.70774

>>70750

They mentioned something about how immigrants helps workers and workers rights and nationalism is evil.


 No.70943

>>70263

Funny most the accountants in my area are Asian. Though the lawyers are jewish.


 No.70969

>>70753

i just asked lol




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