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 No.70010

You guess got any links or sources on economics? Mainly on monoplies

 No.70016

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>>70010

https://mises.org/library/principles-economics

Go to the chapters about monopoly and price formation under it.


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 No.70035

Anyone have a non-Austrian free market theory of monopolies that is very elementary? I've got a liberal friend who I'm going to debate on it, I'm not libertarian myself but I hate status quo babies like him that think the government is inherently good.

I don't understand Austrian economics so I don't want to give the pretense I know what I'm arguing about by namedropping the theory, and I don't want something complicated either.


 No.70036

>>70035

While I would broadly recommend familiarizing yourself with Austrian theory on general principle, I wouldn't think it entirely necessary to comprehend their comments on monopolies.

A simple argument you might use is to ask your friend to provide a single example of a company establishing and maintaining an abusive monopoly for any length of time without government assistance. Be wary of the popular examples people try to give like the "robber-barons"; ask for actual data to support their claims. What you'll find in pretty much every case is either that they didn't have a majority market share at all and prices were falling (indicating no monopoly and no abuse), or government interference in the form of licensure, industry regulation, government grants of privileges, subsidies, or the like. I put it to you that you will never find compelling data-backed evidence of a single firm managing to maintain abusive control over an industry without government interference being involved. I've been fielding this challenge for years and nobody, not even the most pompous tweed-wearing liberal academics, have ever managed to give a single supported example.


 No.70037

>>70036

>I wouldn't think it entirely necessary to learn Austrian Economics in order to comprehend their comments on monopolies.


 No.70038

>>70035

>I'm not libertarian myself but I hate status quo babies like him that think the government is inherently good.

I like that spirit!

>>70036

This.


 No.70039

>>70035

I can sum up the Chicago school pretty fast and you won't need it. They want anti-trust and "perfect competition". You can look up what perfect competition means. What mainstream economists mean by competition is not what the average person does. The Neo Clasicals aren't too far from the Chicago position. Some side with the Austrians. They're not really a homogeneous group. I don't know exactly where Neo Keynesians stand but I'm almost sure they want anti trust implemented even more so than Chicago.

http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Perfect_competition

You won't get many other schools represented here because the rest either only pay lip service, or genuinely don't want free markets. That's not very /liberty/ themed now, isn't it.


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>>70036

At least the "robber-baron" myth is rejected even by mainstream economists and Chicago as well. The "Austrian Cultism" meme won't be of any use here.


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