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WARNING! Free Speech Zone - all local trashcans will be targeted for destruction by Antifa.

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 No.65729

Hey /liberty/,

I got a simple question for you:

As which ideology do you identify?

Which name would you give your political ideology?

I myself identify as an individualist ultraminarchist, little less anarchist than ancap but completely focused on the individual.

Oh, and another question:

What's your view on the age of consent?

I myself think it should be abolished and instead every single questionable case should be checked by a psychologist whether they knew what they were doing and if it was consensual.

I think consensual intercourse should always be legal, regardless of age.

>what if the child consents tho?

 No.65731

At least wait until your other two threads leave the catalog before creating same thread yet again.


 No.65732

>>65729

>Pedo, yes or no?

Fuck off.


 No.65745

>>65732

haha buthurt


 No.65748

>>65745

>haha buthurt

Is that what you say to them when you are finished, or are they not old enough yet to comprehend?


 No.65855

>>65748

im hkv


 No.65907

>hey /liberty/ lets have another exciting thread about political theory

>oh btw should we let people fuck kids?

Never change, /liberty/


 No.65929

>>65729

I want a monarch to march on the capital and establish a throne that will last a thousand years. How the country would actually be governed, might evolve over time, but the role of the monarch should be to preserve tradition, and stop shit becoming fucked up by dubious 'progress'.

The teenage sex scene is not a good thing. Teenagers should be focused on their exams and their families, like in Asia. I don't have sophisticated opinions on it, but I know it is correlated with numerous social problems, such as single motherhood, promiscuity, sexual diseases, and divorce.


 No.65945

>>65929

while I agree that many social problems are caused by teenagers being involved with sex, I would not use asia as a model to copy, what they have produces automatons with no soul and not even enough passion to actually find a mate and reproduce (much like the panda)

I think stopping sexuality in a human is not only futile, but perhaps even counter to our nature as living things, and it would be especially futile in teenagers who are going through the FULL FORCE of all these things that make us sexual animals


 No.65963

I guess paleolibertarian, I am pretty influenced by Hoppe and his ideas about things like society and democracy.

In an ideal AnCap world, private covenants would be able to determine their own policies regarding sex and age which would be enforced through ostracism and if that physically removing them from the society.


 No.65964

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Guys I think this a thread from a /pol/ user attempting us to get politically motivated and invested in their shitty ideas.I mean look at all these threads popping up right now.

Don't think we're that stupid, go back to being pawns of the bourgeoisie you worthless shills.

SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE


 No.65988

>>65964

Check the board name again


 No.66027

>>65988

Its copypasta, saw the exact same post on /hgg/ yesterday


 No.66030

>>65929

>Teenagers should be focused on their exams

So you think the public education is good?


 No.66045

>>66030

How does that follow? Whatever the education system, people should apply themselves to getting ahead.


 No.66046

>>65964

>this shit pasta again

>doesn't even actually sage


 No.66056

>>66045

Teenagers should focus on whatever they feel is most important. What that constitutes may be family, but it may be other pursuits as well.

As for applying for the education system, they'd be much better off self-teaching than being stuck in a classroom memorizing useless information they'll forget in a month just so they don't get beaten for not sticking to family tradition.

You want teenagers to stop getting drugged and whoring out their bodies? Make it so that they don't feel like shit by not forcing them to live lives of misery. Have them take apprenticeships if that's what they want, or let them teach themselves. Most teenagers and children deserve better than to treated like slaves and social status symbols by their shitty parents.


 No.66573

"Social Technocracy" (Social Democracy + Technocrat)

Capitalism no doubtedly has its flaws, but simply attempting to perform a violent revolution forcibly to a stateless state is borderline delusional.

Most of what I've seen in my short experience with the tech industry (not even the whole thing proper, but through govt. & rural work). Computers in public schools are being replaced with lower and lower cost plastic peripherals. The schools are transitioning to get fibre internet between this year and the next. By 2020, we will have the technology to bread lines would be cut from 2 blocks long, to a trip to the DMV.

>tear open Copyright and IP a new asshole, reset both to 25 years maximum, past that becomes Public Domain

>rip of the bandaids off of the meat/sugar/corn obesity subsidies

>Instant Runoff Voting + blank votes

>tear into Dollar Military/Federal/Social Waste and Bureaucratic Bloat by optimizing the paper/data flow and cutting positions

>Stop fucking funding Black Markets

>Negative Income Tax (or Basic Income if the latter becomes more demanded)

>Subsidize the "Green Economy" but not to the sheer level of excess of Oil and Auto

>Enforce the law against anti-competitive practices with an iron hammer

>Rule proprietary software and hardware as anti-competitive practices

>Deregulate housing and zoning laws

>Promote the shit out of newer technology

>Land Value Tax

>Bust corporate monopolies and labour unions


 No.67325

>>65929

tradition is disfunctional sometimes


 No.67327

File: fa0b5e69039990f⋯.jpg (34.78 KB, 480x593, 480:593, fa0b5e69039990f5a28629c57b….jpg)

Anarcho-communist who's a stirnerite.

Eat the rich and class war now because it is in my self interest.


 No.67358

>>66056

>Teenagers should focus on whatever they feel is most important.

No they shouldn't. That's how you get drug addicts, alcoholics, and single parent families. Which have enormous effects on surrounding people. Since I am an evil collectivist, I care about those things.

>As for applying for the education system, they'd be much better off self-teaching than being stuck in a classroom memorizing useless information they'll forget in a month just so they don't get beaten for not sticking to family tradition.

I already said that I'm not defending public education. I'm just saying that everyone should try hard at whatever the system is.


 No.67481

>As which ideology do you identify?

>Which name would you give your political ideology?

I'm in a weird Limbo between Conservative and Minarchism. So I just refer to myself as a Conservative Libertarian, which some call Conservatarian.

>view on age of consent

fuck off pedo


 No.67547

>>67327

>he thinks he is egoist

>he wants to have as much as everyone else

wew lad


 No.67664

>>67327

Egoism has a massive gaping flaw. If I am an egoist, why would an anarcho-egoist or anarcho-individualist society be in my self interest? If everybody else is enlightened by Stirner's philosophy, and only chooses to associate with me if it's in their self interest (a union of egoists), wouldn't that constrict my ability to do things (by being unable to take advantage or oppress other people for my own good, which I see no reason why I shouldn't able to do, as any objection based on the value of morality or an axiomatic reason is "a mere spook in the mind"). The egoist's ideal system is one in which everybody's his slave who does exactly as he asks, not one in which everybody shares the same philosophy as him. This is why capitalism is better for me in terms of an ideology for the (rationally) self-interested man.


 No.67717

>>67664

It's impossible to know the result of a person looking behind transitory partial oppositions.


 No.68026

>>67327

>when commies dont want to appear feminine


 No.68110

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>>68026

>when ancaps make hasty assumptions.


 No.68119

>>68110

Why exactly are you hanging out on our board, and not on /leftypol/? I know I've got better things to do than tell people I disagree with that they're stupid. If I did that, I would never leave my keyboard.


 No.68138

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>>68119

fucking neck yourself

>telling anarchists of any color to get off /liberty/

this board is just fucking full of people shilling /pol/ "redpills" its disgusting.

>mfw I see people support nazi germany and monarchism on this board


 No.68140

>>68138

>Anarcho-communism

>Anarchy

Wew lad just wew


 No.68141

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>>68140

>fascism and monarchy

>liberty

W E W


 No.68142

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 No.68143

>>68138

So let me get this straight.

We get a /pol/ack or two who wanders in and talks about stuff you happen to not like, and rather than argue with them, you shit on everyone else for having the audacity to invite opposing views in for debate? I think I've identified the problem here, comrade, and it looks like you take far too little anarcho- in your ancom latte. Ancoms closeted authoritarians who want to control speech confirmed.


 No.68144

>>68141

>4chan

Do I need to reply further? I guess I can.

The guys you're talking about are merely visiting and they're allowed to do that because as long as they're not physically in my commune they can talk to me.

Like, the monarchy thread has a link back to /monarchy/ because they know they're not form here. If you didn't see that one, you're illiterate.


 No.68150

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>>68144

Yeah I did see that they were not from this board. It's just that this board tend to be hostile to anything that is left of right of center and tend to denounce anything that is "left" as Authoritarian. I don't think any decent discussion can be made on this board without useless shitflinging between ancoms and ancaps if one just so much as use that flag on here.


 No.68154

>>68150

Well to be fair when we try to talk about social injustice, freedom of movement, or other more left-leaning topics there's typically a chorus of "how can you support these fights when Capitalist?" So we tend to get a little pissed off from the start.


 No.68156

>>68150

There have been some people from /leftypol/ I could get along with, but they're a strong minority. Most of you guys are too busy starting discussion after useless discussion on some meme we already refute weekly. You have no idea what our viewpoints are, you have hardly read any of our literature, you don't understand methodology, and very often, you don't even try to have a discussion in good faith. It's telling that I have never seen a Stirnerfag on here who cared to do more than post a shitty meme.

That's why some of us get a bit pissy at every visitor from /leftypol/. I tend to call them out on it when I think it isn't warranted, but after all my experiences, I'm done giving lefties the benefit of the doubt. If you're capable of holding a good discussion, prove it.


 No.68158

>>65729

White supremacist, and pedos need to be gassed.


 No.68169

>>68158

go back to pol


 No.68190

>You have no idea what our viewpoints are, you have hardly read any of our literature, you don't understand methodology, and very often, you don't even try to have a discussion in good faith.

See >>68110

I'm starting on the libertarian manifesto about 15 pages in. Stopped because college got in the way.

What parts do you think is important in the pamphlet?


 No.68239

>>68154

freedom of movement is not left wing

people mix their labour with land by walking on it and destroying plants as result so it becomes a public property


 No.75410

not even representative in this embarssment of a compass…

more very militaristic barely left leaning fascism with divine right. but: no gun control, free speech (unless you're a feminist, stay in the kitchen and leave the politics to men) black markets are fine as long as they help the economy. no Jews either, you get deported. secular humanists, same. the only Socialism is ownership of the means of production and white collar nationalization, blue collar Socialism, mom and pop free market, also regulations on the sexual market too. no race mixing. defense only military. non-interventionist, non-parlimentarian

inb4 tl;dr




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