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A recognized Safe Space for liberty - if you're triggered and you know it, clap your hands!

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 No.63955

hold me /liberty/

 No.63957

>>63955

It's nowhere near as gloomy as that. Sure, when the Chinese and American bubbles pop it's going to hurt like never before, but a lot of us will live through it.

>every single company only wants the best

Every single company only wants the best of what it can find. Probably the same reason why every worker wants the best conditions and will not work for anyone out of pity. Regulations, unions and State borders to hold the global market back a lot. Young people are confused where to go because of how distorted the job market is and end up with useless degrees. The part about job creation in America right now is completely true. None of this is a surprise. It was all coming for a long long time and nobody cared. You can deny reality, but consequences happen either way.


 No.63958

Or maybe it's because of massive distortions in the education market including easy-to-get loans, university requirements, &c. that has made everyone collect skills that are completely fucking useless. Also, maybe everyone shouldn't live in a goddam metro area. There are jobs and opportunities in rural areas because they don't have access to global labor markets to nearly at all the same degree, but the government doesn't like that because having highly centralized population centers makes it so much easier to control the people. But hey, keep believing that people should live in cities because "There's nothing to do/there's no work" outside the cities.


 No.63961

>>63957

The problem is the bubble hasn't popped yet. I can feel my grocery expenses are a lot more pricey compared to like 1-2 years ago.


 No.63962

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>>63955

A.) Don't you tell me what to do

and B.) A good majority of what's written in the image is actually wrong, not all of it, but pretty much most of it.

Just to pick a few examples.

> No problem, just put an ad up for Estonia!

The Tech world is sort of starting to see the problem of outsourcing complicated work to low IQ populations such as those in India or Malaysia. Now that's not to say that "Estonia" is a nation with a population that is low in intelligence but that is to say that more often than not they severely lack the education that Americans in the tech industry have. This difference tends to be crucial for a business and a good number of tech businesses are beginning to realize there's no real short-cut. You can either pay a professional and get a professional product, or you can pay someone who's not as educated and get a half-assed product.

> In Americas you have tent cities on the rise everywhere

> 1% of the population is homeless

These two claims alone should already make most people skeptical. The largest number I could find on homeless people within the United States was around 500,000. Don't get me wrong, It's still unfortunate that they're homeless but that's well below 1% of the population of the United States, a good 2 or so million below in fact.

> Silicon Valley programmers live in their cars

Shit if I worked at Silicon Valley then I'd stay in my car too. Taking aside all the taxes in California and all the regulations that already exist as is, Silicon Valley is well known across the United States as the 'technology hub' of the country. Ergo, many businesses will start around this area in making some good money off of the people who work there with high prices (like a bagel that costs around 7$), this on top of the already rather expensive housing as a result of regulation and the high taxes that California already dishes out makes living in a car heaven.

Don't mistake this to be the general state of affairs for the whole economy though, most of California's enterprises are leaving the state due to the fact that people living there are just plain dealt a shit hand, even Hollywood is kicking the bucket (most movies are actually produced in Atlanta, Georgia nowadays). I wouldn't be surprised if Silicon Valley ceases to be (or at least ceases to be as well-known as it is) within the next few years.


 No.63970

>>63955

>Muh post-WW2 Golden Age

Yeah, I call bullshit on this meme. We're talking about an age where people lived in daily fear of being nuked to oblivion, the Weathermen and Black Panthers terrorized America, the US federal government became bigger and more menacing than ever before outside of war times, racial tensions there rose, the welfare states became bigger pretty much everywhere, large parts of Southeast Asia turned to shit, and colonialism was ended for good. Western Europe was freed from totalitarianism but instead of a glorious Habsburg or at least Hohenzollern monarchy, we got fucking democracy.


 No.63973

>>63955

The people want a declining population!

>>63970

There was good economic growth though and housing was cheaper. I don't think that's disputed.


 No.63978

>>63962

A better way to put it is that American programmers tend to be taught. Why A+B=C whereas the third worlders who just got in to improve their living standards only understand the syntax behind A+B=C and not why it works. With syntax you can solve simple problems by shoving three codemonkeys on it, but you really need someone who understands what's going on behind the scenes for advanced problems in industry, and pajeet isn't gonna get you there.


 No.63979

>>63978

Oops, forgot flag. Just installed a new browser.


 No.63981

>>63955

this is why we should support antinatalism m8


 No.64054

>>63970

>>63973

I thought the reason why you had that growth in post ww2 america was because all the wealth in the world went back to america because all the other countries were bombed to smithereens due to the war.


 No.64075

>>64054

If other countries have less money they can't buy as much. I don't think it's a good thing.

But it was a period where America had a lot of good brands and exports. Progressives would say the money was also 'kept in the middle class' through redistribution and unions


 No.64764

>>63962

> The largest number I could find on homeless people within the United States was around 500,000. Don't get me wrong, It's still unfortunate that they're homeless but that's well below 1% of the population of the United States, a good 2 or so million below in fact.

This is a pretty important point because you'll often hear about a "rise in homelessness" and it is never really quantified except through anecdotes. To give you an example, in New York City back in the 80s there were these guys that would hang around the tunnels going in and out of Manhattan and would "offer" to clean your car's windshields with a squeegee for a fee. If you didn't want it, they'd kick in your tail lights or break your car's antenna. This would happen to thousands of people going in an out of the city every day. It became such a staple experience in New York that you see it in a lot of TV shows and movies from the era.

Guess how many of these squeegee guys there were? About four or five. But because they harassed hundreds of thousands of people, it created the impression that there were hundreds of these guys.


 No.64801

>>63955

3 dollars per hour? Is this real? Where did he get his stats from?


 No.64802

>>64764

I think homelessness might vary by state. I know at least in my state there's a problem but a lot of that is mental health issues.




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