/liberty/ - Liberty

>>62566

OK, why?

Within a predominantly white population, women and sub-90 IQ voters disproportionately vote left wing large government on average, while Abrahamics have expansionist ideologies of their own, do you remember when the advocates of big government were mostly right wing? I do, but it was all the christian conservative voters, there has never been a right-wing atheist demographic who voted for big government, it goes without saying why Muslims should not get the vote, and Jewish influences on politics are largely left wing biog government as well.

Do you want the government to stay small? then see voting as a privilege, not a right.

Bait post.

>>62579

8% of Canadians want the migrants to come.

That's not a typo, that's the actual number, only 8/100.

As the only party advocating for strict border control, we will have the Canadian people behind us.

Most Canadians are either aware and disapproving, or not aware at all, of the speech laws, when they see our members get arrested, the resulting groundswell will allow us to get away with sit not even possible in the united states.

We will win if we run, the stats show it, we just have to sow the Canadian public that we have a chance, so that strategic voters will see us as a viable choice.

>oh god this is it, this is how /liberty/ ends, we get flooded by retarded newfags

Says the guy who posted a rake meme to a Canadian trying to fix is country, do you also post "sweden yes" in response to the sweden democrats?

at least I know how to use these things within their proper context, instead of trying too hard to be a useless edgelord.

>>62565

>Carp

>Crap

Fixed it.

>discrimination based on sex, religion and mental difficulties

>alt-right

>/liberty/

Are you sure you didn't want to post this one on /pol/?

>>62582

>8% of Canadians want the migrants to come

Give us the source. We'd also like to know whether the poll was concerning migrants of Arabian descent. If I, white and European male, would like to live in Canada would that be legal?

>As the only party advocating for strict border control, we will have the Canadian people behind us.

Again - does strict border control mean simply "more guards, guns and prevention" or "complete isolationism and not letting anyone inside or outside the country"? If it is the former, then I suppose that we all here do support such reforms (except for a minor group of shitposters from /leftypol/)

>>62584

You know what his tread makes me feel like?

It makes me feel like Canada is the most important country to the left, because whenever a thread dedicated to fixing the problems the left causes in Canada is started, the rakelords immediately descend upon it to derail the thread, even since Trump, Canada has been seen by the left as their side door into the united states, get Canada flooded with migrants, then send those migrants into the united states en mass, regardless of their policies, the US will be flooded, and the left will take it.

So let's be just honest here, you guys are all NWO shills, right? the only other option is that you are just idiots playing into the left, because you are too collectivist to think rationally, which honestly wouldn't surprise me.

>>62586

Yes, I thought I'd escape the ((rakelords)) here, and actually get something done.

I also wouldn't fit in on /pol/ since I'm a national libertarian, not a national socialist, however, when my minarchist state comes into existence, I want it to last, I can't afford to be blind to the differences between groups of people, and how certain ideologies shape their voting habits.

If you consider Libertarian Realist to be /liberty/, then this is the correct place for me to go.

Finally, /pol/ would want to stop racial groups from voting, not IQ differences, which is more rational, and they'd want Christians to be able to vote, remember how the "moral majority" Christians voted in the united states when they had the power?

>>62587

I've considered sakoku (closed country) policies, but ultimately decided against it.

Immigration and trade should happen, but not in such a way as to destroy the interests of our own people.

as the manifesto is written, you will see what I actually support, if you want to rake me then, you can go ahead, but don't jump to conclusions.

we should have freedom of association except for those I don't like

I'm giving /liberty/ a real source of political influence here, you'd be stupid to decline it, you get to see my policies themselves when I write the manifesto, and you can persuade a guy who, coming here, is obviously sympathetic to your ideologies.

Help me write it out, and then we can edit it into something we can both agree on, I will allow these edits, as I'm not as certain about my own political ideas, I want to know what's best, and I'm certain that I don't have it yet.

But it must be some balance between small government, and just enough government to keep it small, and lasting.

I support much less intrusive policies than /pol/ does, believe me, and so I came to you.

>>62565

Hahahahahahahaaha no.

>>62586

Pedo in denial, looking out for pedos. What a loony hypocrite.

>>62565

How about the fuck no. Leafposting is a crime against humanity.

>>62592

why not look through your own flowchart regarding libertarian ideologies? >>59609

Of course only your particular version of ancap is the real liberty, amirite?

>>62593

Banning the vote for Christians is retarded. You're not getting any help from me if you only want atheists and hindus to have suffrage. Moral and cultural relativism is one of the biggest dangers of our time and it's specifically an atheist issue.

>>62600

Kek, read the rest of the thread. This ancap was positively murdered for being a faggot.

Let's be clear here, aside from who I'm restricting the vote to, and my libertarian reasons for doing so, and the fact that the founding fathers also had restrictions on voting that I made more rational for the purposes, and the fact that libertarian philosophers that /liberty/ supports also support limiting voting privileges for the same purposes as I stated.

I'm not libertarian enough for you, I suppose you also like open borders.

And because I am trying to fix the country that most needs to be fixed, which, unlike Europe, is not yet too fargone to protect itself from being wiped out, and which has a population that is open to change according to the statistics, because it's Canada, you arbitrarily decide to do nothing but deter me from fixing the problems which you constantly bitch about, despite there being a real chance of them getting fixed.

Is that a fair summation of your retardation?

>>62599

It's on the front page, you idiot. Every one can see how much of an autist you are. No one's used this flag for many weeks and then one romp of shitposting later, it's everywhere responding to every post? For a guy who's replying to every piece of b8 on a hook, you sure like to pretend you're intelligent.

>alt-right

Even from a /pol/ perspective your post was garbage before it even began. Kill yourself syrup sucker.

>>62607

You know next to nothing about what policies my party would support, and you hate it because it's Canadian.

Explain your reasoning, so I can at least see your logic.

Even /pol/ explains why they hate who they hate, and responds to criticism, it's what makes them convincing, you are just edgy right now.

>>62610

I chose the name because it was well known, if you have a better idea, let me know, it's also open to revision.

>>62603

I just got here pal, you can't even tell one poster from another. I should really start putting on your flag and just start blindly shitposting from now on. It's clear that the board is going to be shat up by posts with this flag for a while now, so why not.

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Oops, meant to reply to you

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Is this what samefagging shitposting looks like? Fucking garbage thread.

>>62590

>Immigration and trade should happen, but not in such a way as to destroy the interests of our own people.

I'm a classical liberal, not libertarian, so there's no confusion. I hope you're aware that what you've written has little if anything to do with libertarianism and what libertarians believe in. Especially two things - national bias and adhering to collectives and aggregates. How do you define "interests of your own people"? If you open your borders for immigrants, they will increase labor supply in sectors of their choice thereby decreasing wages in aformentioned sectors. Who wins and loses now? How does it affect "national interest" (God only knows what that is) per saldo? Sure, the wages in those industries that accomodate new laborers will sink, but so will their prices, profiting the consumers who do not participate in production in the industries I've mentioned. Do you now see what's the problem? Your utilitarian attitude, thinking in terms of "common good", "national interest" etc. do NOT make you as well as other so-called "national libertarians" (is that even a thing?) considerable allies for libertarians, since libertarianism is based on the concept of natural law - not utilitarianism. If you'd like to further your political program and still remain a libertarian not only by your own standards you'd have to develop a theory that would support your opposition towards migration and avoid collectivist concepts. In other words - utilitarians think about whether certain action will harm or benefit the collective and from this consequentialist premise deduce whether we should allow this action to happen whereas libertarians first of all adhere to a set of iron principles and try to figure out if prohibiting this action is compatible with individual rights and liberties. It seems to me (however I myself am not a libertarian) that your concept is not compatible with them since you'd like the collective to decide whether or not an individual has the right to get around a land that the collective doesn't own. Sure enough, they possess their own properties, houses, estates etc. but not sidewalks, roads and the property that the foreigner would occupy upon his arrival.

>>62624

Yeah, you're blatant shitposting is going to be out there. Half the pedos in the pedo thread are going to turn out to be you all along

>>62629

>/leftypol/

Reaching pretty hard there, chenfag. You'd think only someone from /leftypol/ would pull a falseflag op to make /liberty/ look like a bunch of stupid revolutionaries popped up overnight, but here you are, doing the deed for them.

>>62621

I don't remember saying anything about common good, I want immigration, but only if those immigrants are willing to work, if they don't work, you get Europe, also, while not a racial supremacist, I am an IQ supremacist, low IQ people are low earners, they also blame the system for it, and sympathize with the poor, disenfranchised minorities, thus, they always elect people who promise more wealth redistribution, those guys also promise open borders.

I'm going to shut borders to countries with sub-90 average IQ's, the stupids will not get jobs, cause high rates of crime, and become radical islamists, the smarties are needed to improve their own countries, and our people need a productive population to improve the economy.

I will also get rid of the welfare that draws the economic migrants in, but borders are also essential elements, ultimately, many migrants are drawn by ideology as well, they are simply sucking the resources of Europe for now, but later, the whole of Europe will eventually be swamped, welfare only makes you the first target, they will go after you later on.

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I've drawn up the revised manifesto, it can be found in this thread: >>66283

>>62565

mormonism is part of christianity

>banning Abrahamic religions from voting

Please tell me you're only pretending to be retarded.

>>67862

It's a /pol/ thing.

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