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There's no discharge in the war!

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8ed4d3  No.681902

Lately I've been interested in at-home (short-ish) AR range training, partly because of ammo prices/travel time, partly because NY. Would it be more cost effective for using recoil enabled airshit that shoots a laser at an electronic target or finding a drop in kit for a real one that does the same thing? The only manufacturers of the latter that I've found practically cost twice the amount of a real one and only sell to military/LEO. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

dc68b2  No.681905

There is no real replacement for practicing behind the gun when it comes to dealing with recoil. You can't simulate the proper impulse of the rifle's momentum, or the noise and flash, or other factors, and in self-loading actions the effect of the gas pressure, piston movement, or movement of the barrel/slide assembly if it's recoil-operated will all play a part in how the shot impacts and affects you as well. My personal advice would be to just practice your form, grip, and trigger control on the rifle using dry fire, and get good at making sure you don't move the gun in any undesired way while holding or manipulating it. If you get used to a static hit back from one of those little laser devices, I could see that leading to creating a flinching habit during live fire since you might not be fully prepared for how it feels.

The advantage of something like an AR, though, is that a 5.56 in a Stoner gas system with a buffer tube recoils surprisingly smoothly and softly, so even if you've never shot a gun before an AR can be a great trainer or first purchase. You shouldn't be too bashful about waiting until you can shoot it for real, although an important thing to keep in mind is that getting a good benefit from training requires you to do quite a bit of it and fairly often. You should make every effort to take range days whenever possible, in accordance to your personal budget and schedule. Buying ammo in bulk is a good way to save money, but I'm not familiar with shipping costs or legality in the state of New York.

This may have been better suited for QTDDTOT, but I'm gonna give it a bump anyway since I think a lot of people could give or want useful advice on something like this, since situations vary and everyone's needs and location are different. Kudos for trying to live as a gun owner in NY, by the way, it must be hell.


8ed4d3  No.681911

>>681905

>There is no real replacement for practicing behind the gun when it comes to dealing with recoil. You can't simulate the proper impulse of the rifle's momentum, or the noise and flash, or other factors, and in self-loading actions the effect of the gas pressure, piston movement, or movement of the barrel/slide assembly

I'm well aware of that, I was just curious about a "next best thing" substitute for when I can't travel and feel in the mood to train.

>My personal advice would be to just practice your form, grip, and trigger control on the rifle using dry fire, and get good at making sure you don't move the gun in any undesired way while holding or manipulating it.

I try to do that as often as I can, I've noticed benefits already

>5.56 in a Stoner gas system with a buffer tube recoils surprisingly smoothly and softly

This is true from firsthand experience with a Del-Ton 20" upper

>Buying ammo in bulk is a good way to save money, but I'm not familiar with shipping costs or legality in the state of New York.

Online ammo ordering is illegal here, and every local shop sells with a stiff premium

Thank you for imparting your wisdom :)


c7951d  No.681914

>>681911

>Online ammo ordering is illegal here, and every local shop sells with a stiff premium

What about going out of state to stock up?


5b1778  No.681926

Just dry fire and go out of state for courses/range time. Or move.


621131  No.681937

>>681911

Might as well get into handloading.


a63da4  No.681974

>>681937

Probably the most effective solution.




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