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AVE IMPERATOR SALVINI Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 01:06:17 88eff3 No.663112

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/03/31/italy-passes-salvini-backed-self-defence-law-to-protect-homeowners/

>The Italian Senate passed the new legitimate defence bill this week, liberalising the previous self-defence code and allowing citizens more options to protect their homes from burglars and other intruders.

>The reform, which modifies article 52 of the Italian penal code, now allows Italians to use “a legitimately held weapon” to protect themselves and members of their household, making it far less likely individuals will be brought up on charges for defending themselves, Il Giornale reports.

>The new changes were welcomed by populist Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Interior Matteo Salvini, who has previously pushed hard for self-defence reform.

>“It is a beautiful day for the Italians in which the sacrosanct right to self-defence is sanctioned,” Salvini said.

>Previously, the Lega leader had even offered to pay the legal expenses of those brought up on criminal charges for using force to protect their homes.

>“A thief comes into your house, company or store, and you defend yourself? It will be your right to do so, and the thug (and his relatives) will not be able to ask for a euro of compensation,” Salvini vowed.

>“Besides, you won’t end up on trial for years and you won’t pay your own pocket: the state will cover any legal expenses of those who defended themselves.”

>“From today the criminals know that to be a robber in Italy is more difficult: it is an even more dangerous job,” the League (Lega) leader observed

>Around 4.5 million homes in Italy have access to firearms, according to figures released in June of last year.

>33 million Italian homes have anti-theft doors, while 10 million or so have alarms and often video cameras as well.

>The new policy marks a stark contrast to the United Kingdom, where it is alleged that home defence policies have made British homeowners easy targets — to the point where Chilean criminal gangs have been known to fly in to rob British homes in what has been dubbed “burglary tourism.”

Thus proving, definitively, that gun rights can be pushed for, even in the wake of a mass shooting. The (((NRA))) has no excuse.

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 01:50:47 f1154c No.663124

Congradulations Italy!

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 02:02:14 9a0209 No.663131

File: 762df4a16b8092f⋯.png (787.53 KB, 1080x1236, 90:103, KFCmanIndianversion.png)

Very very nice, congrats on this, seriously.

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 02:05:44 bf53c8 No.663133

>shitbart

https://www.thelocal.it/20190328/italy-self-defence-law

http://archive.is/djsNy

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 02:30:19 943356 No.663141

File: fd379272d7c823d⋯.jpg (81.04 KB, 800x531, 800:531, 1450238288844.jpg)

Bravo, pastaland.

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 02:44:50 17ef64 No.663146

When are they going to legalize machine guns like San Marino? Concealed carry?

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 02:52:04 a3d9d5 No.663153

File: d4150170f14fdec⋯.png (417.42 KB, 634x438, 317:219, ClipboardImage.png)

>>663147

belgians

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 03:58:52 25322d No.663174

File: afe12c17899caf8⋯.jpg (71.85 KB, 646x514, 323:257, df2d283334d635f064d80bb611….jpg)

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 04:41:04 53dcb4 No.663185

>>663157

This

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 04:48:33 5d4301 No.663189

File: 3e59b40df5f3dc9⋯.jpg (20.71 KB, 376x365, 376:365, infinity anon plays with a….jpg)

Congrats Italy, but I have a question

>>to the point where Chilean criminal gangs have been known to fly in to rob British homes in what has been dubbed “burglary tourism.”

Is this an actual thing or a comedic exaggeration of the UK's horribly cucked laws?

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 04:54:54 0d4900 No.663191

File: 70b43b03c52b7d1⋯.jpg (31.41 KB, 474x341, 474:341, th7Z34IQFH.jpg)

>mfw the pastas are getting better fun laws too

Regardless, good move Italy.

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 05:13:52 ce3608 No.663197

>>663191

>copyrighting a historical image

I vote we hang whoever does this before anyone else on DOTR.

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 05:29:42 b22a8d No.663211

Very nice, I can't wait for GD to change our laws too. Fully-automatic G3A3 rifles in every household when?

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 05:31:27 bf53c8 No.663214

>>663197

Worse:

Putting watermarks on historic footage

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 07:33:54 9a0209 No.663241

File: ae0d205efcf209b⋯.jpeg (90.88 KB, 400x499, 400:499, 243B8F2B-181B-4865-B369-2….jpeg)

>>663189

This cant be real

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 07:38:32 20a015 No.663243

File: 1f5d6f73ec97d3a⋯.jpg (79.51 KB, 546x470, 273:235, The pride is back.jpg)

>>663191

THE PRIDE IS BACK

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 07:48:45 cdbf07 No.663245

>>663189

I wouldn't be surprised if the UK is heaven for burglars, but Chilean gangs? that's really odd

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 08:55:31 397dee No.663257

File: c58347294324f88⋯.jpg (39.23 KB, 480x689, 480:689, c58347294324f8828f6bb6c24b….jpg)

awesome Italy, this is huge and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the first European country in the last 20 years to go the correct direction with gun laws.

if somebody could describe a hypothetically for me, for what is allowed now that'd be fantastic.

like what would you get in trouble for in the past that you now are justified?

Rally just got 2% whiter

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 09:40:05 4ddce1 No.663263

>>663257

The Czechs are also amongst the commendable European nations for gun laws. It's a short list but I'm happy Italy is at least heading in a sensible direction.

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 10:02:49 fb32df No.663264

File: 0565f882529f340⋯.png (83.67 KB, 336x324, 28:27, 0565f882529f340f70e1a6e3a1….png)

>>663189

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/burglary-tourists-arelooting-homes-ntgnjqpsq

>it's true

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 12:11:16 dfeae5 No.663283

>>663264

The absolute state of britbongs.

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 13:13:01 85d4ab No.663289

>>663264

Britbongs are such easy targets the rest of the world has noticed.

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 13:40:14 7a0aac No.663296

File: 97afeff02f72744⋯.jpg (26.27 KB, 457x480, 457:480, Operator.jpg)

>>663112

Sounds breddy good. Good on them.

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 13:49:17 b9e01b No.663297

>>663197

Well, what can I say? I couldn't find a better picture to express my support towards the Italians…

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 14:51:42 88eff3 No.663312

>>663257

>first European country in the last 20 years

Not quite.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-guncontrol-czech/czechs-take-legal-action-over-eu-rules-on-gun-control-idUSKBN1AP1SA

>The Czech Republic filed a lawsuit on Friday against a new European Union directive tightening gun ownership, aimed at limiting access to semi-automatic and other weapons after deadly Islamist attacks in western Europe.

>The European Parliament and EU interior ministers gave a final nod to the changes earlier this year despite the Czech Republic, Luxembourg and Poland voicing opposition.

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 14:56:22 dfeae5 No.663313

>>663263

>>663312

We aren't as commendable in this regard. If you kill someone while being robbed, you might go to prison for murder unless you prove your own life was in danger, for using "excessive force". Over here, it's not that difficult to get yourself a gun, and the government is resistant to gun grabbing attempts, but if you actually use it, you're looking at a legal shitstorm. Combine it with a very lenient penal law and comfy prisons, and you get shit like 16-times recidivists (not even that uncommon) robbing people in broad daylight, knowing nothing's gonna happen to them. Sure, we don't have much violent crime this way, but it's still a fucking disgrace. Italy is clearly outdoing us in this regard.

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 15:06:55 88eff3 No.663314

>>663313

I mean, everyone assumes the U.S. is gun wonderland(and honestly it really is as far as most people are concerned) but you can get fucked way harder than anything the Czech government could do if you defend yourself with a firearm in certain states/cities.

And, you know, the (((NRA))) slowly chipping away at our rights.

Strelok 04/01/19 (Mon) 16:37:01 235b0e No.663328

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>>663146

Probably never, despite Salvini mentioning his interest for making gun laws less strict… "concealed carry", i.e. carry for self-defense is possible even nowadays, but you require a serious reason to apply for it ("serious" as in actually having your life in real danger). It's usually granted to businessman/shop owners who are threatened by the mafia, for instance.

Strelok 04/02/19 (Tue) 06:15:21 cdbf07 No.663489

>>663328

One step at a time i guess

Strelok 04/02/19 (Tue) 06:25:47 02e6df No.663493

>>663264

Holy fuck dude, I legitimately thought it was just a joke.

Strelok 04/02/19 (Tue) 07:26:10 6525ab No.663504

>>663328

So pay the mafia every so often to send you a threatening letter. Take it to tbe cops and get your legal concealed carry.

Strelok 04/02/19 (Tue) 12:26:26 88eff3 No.663532

>>663328

Why not make it shall-issue like in most American states? Shall issue meaning ‘unless the police can prove that x is not fit to own a firearm in a certain amount of time, they may own a firearm.’

Strelok 04/02/19 (Tue) 12:34:06 edcd3a No.663535

>>663133

I just love how the headline is phrased compared to the Breitbart version.

Strelok 04/02/19 (Tue) 15:47:05 235b0e No.663566

>>663532

Well, it kinda is in a way… when you apply for a gun licence (either for sport or hunting), after you've had your medical examinations cleared and you've been to the gun range for the training part, the intelligence branch of the Carabinieri (military police) will do a background check.

Unless you have a criminal record or they have reasons to believe you might be a dangerous individual, as far as I know, they are supposed to grant it.

Strelok 04/02/19 (Tue) 15:56:23 43297c No.663567

>>663566

>either for sport or hunting

Is my country really the only one in EU where citing "self defense" is a valid reason to get a gun?

Strelok 04/02/19 (Tue) 18:18:10 ebfe6a No.663586

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>>663567

Technically it's a valid reason in most Euro countries, just good luck actually getting one without connections.

Strelok 04/02/19 (Tue) 18:29:37 a3138e No.663588

>>663567

Probably you're the only ones who have this type or licenses as a "shall-issue". IIRC, you even issue these for EU visitors and only non eu visitors have a "may issue". Other than that, there's also Georgia if you consider it EU, there you have to get some papers and pass a short quiz for long guns and pistols individually, though CC is only for police and you can only keep handguns in your house and probably take them to the range. Self defense also aren't complete bullshit and have things like property protection as good reasons, though don't quote me on that.

Strelok 04/02/19 (Tue) 21:44:07 975b27 No.663611

>>663586

>the UN has actual documents called 'Replacement Migration'

s-source?

Strelok 04/02/19 (Tue) 22:04:26 8a2ece No.663618

>>663611

Seconded.

Strelok 04/02/19 (Tue) 22:59:34 c649e7 No.663628

>>663567

It be much worse. In britbongland, self defense isn't even a legal use of a firearm. As in if you happened to own a gun for any legitimate allowed reason (sport/hunting) and used it against a would be murderer, you go to prison because it is illegal to use guns for self defense even if you had one for another reason.

Strelok 04/02/19 (Tue) 23:01:52 c649e7 No.663630

>>663611

>>663618

https://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/publications/ageing/replacement-migration.asp

they dont even hide it.

Strelok 04/03/19 (Wed) 01:17:40 8a2ece No.663654

>>663630

>they dont even hide it.

No excuse to not archive it.

http://archive.is/5IaNY

Strelok 04/03/19 (Wed) 01:38:25 c649e7 No.663662

>>663654