/k/ - Weapons

Unfortunately this isn't blocking a magazine ban. This is blocking a confiscation of grandfathered mags. The NRA won a takings clause case and is avoiding mentioning that to give the appearance of having done something vaguely hard.

https://law.onecle.com/california/penal/32310.html

>>662773

Imagine a rifle that accepted boxes of loose ammunition in a feed hopper.

Would the box of ammunition then be a high capacity magazine?

There is a reason why natural rights were so broadly defined in the bill of rights.

>>662773

My understanding is that you cannot link 11 or more rounds on one belt. So basically New York's "only 7 rounds, okay?" unenforceable bullshit and yes it was touched by the ban.

>>662692

I don't know about that but 32310 seems like THE bullshit. The penal code prohibits the sale, manufacture, importation, giving, lending, receiving, and possessing high caps.

This site seems to cut down the legalese bullshit

https://www.shouselaw.com/large-capacity-magazines

>>662784

Any ammo feeding device with "high" capacity is illegal regardless of it being an actual mag or not technically you could own a gatling gun the big brass shit but the hopper would either be cut down or left up to you being a good boy. Only issue would be about the trigger and if it fired more than once per turn.

>>662790

Fucked up and forgot to mention that tube fed rifle mags are sort of exempt. Marlin model 60 for example is okay in California.

From what I'm hearing some gun sites are now shipping 30+ round mags into california right this second, at least until some new legal motion occurs. Better get it while you can.

>>662670

Big heads up for Californians, many online retailers are legally able to sell 30 round magazines to California today because of this ruling, so go ahead and pick up as many as you can from the website that will do so. A few examples of websites that are selling to California are preppergunshop, justicearms, armsunlimited, and skidtactical

>>662796

Honestly, people should just start ignoring the law and buying mags accross state lines. Same with salt weapon accessories and tracer/AP ammo.

>>662802

Jestice arms is a favorite for many since they make compliant mags in ways that makes it easy to unfuck with just a drill for rivets or a pot of hot water for epoxy. Only issue is the hole in your mag that may let dirt in, but still you can get real(ish) mags delivered to your door without having to make a trip which will only increase since the ammo BG checks are coming in july.

>>662802

It certainly makes it easier to say "but officer, I bought these mags during the exemption period and they were grandfathered in", when the exemption period was six months ago instead of however many years.

>>662802

Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together can tell you this was already happening; this means that, as far as magazines go, no one can stop it.

>>662784

The first thing I thought of reading that was vid related. It could, potentially, even be UK legal - as to the best of my knowledge all UK legal definitions of what does and does not constitute a 'firearm' involves the pressure bearing components, and as this doesn't use any kind of propellant there's no pressure involved. obviously it would have some specific amendment passed to ban it by name, but a man can dream

>>662790

>Any ammo feeding device with "high" capacity is illegal regardless of it being an actual mag or not

What if you were using something like this vid, where ammo was just dumped into a hole in the weapon by the user - would you be limited to storage containers (which are completely that could only hold X rounds?

>>662681

I CAN FINALLY ORDER MEME MAGAZINES. TRUELY A GREAT DAY.

>>662670

if the Judge's ruling was "OK, I guess 10rds ain't enough for lawful use/ownership due to legit need for self defense, etc" then why and how could where and when the mags were bought matter?

So people that happened to have bought some item in 1990 have a right to defend themselves but not people who bought or wish to buy in 2019?

>>662872

Welcome to clown world, capital California

its on, bitches.

multiple CA gun stores now selling "Standard" cap mags.

Calguns is a pro-Israel Zio-cucked fag-friendly site but they do have high quality info and very knowledgeable primarly-Boomer clientele.

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1521211

Default List: Places Selling Standard Capacity Magazines to California (Updated 2019-03-30)

ONLINE SPREADSHEET OF VENDORS

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing (updated 11:20 Saturday 30 March 2019) ←- this version is locked for editing by me

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing ←- anyone can edit this version

Will Definitely Sell

- UG Imports (Bay Area/Fremont) ←- in-person, cash sales only per their CalGuns posting

- Sacramento Black Rifle (Sacramento/Citrus Heights) ←- first come first serve per their Facebook post

Will Definitely Ship

- Arizona Response Systems (online) ←- will sell per their online post

- Charlie Cooper's (online) ←- will sell per their Facebook post

- RTG Parts (online) ←- CalGunner successfully placed online order; confirmation email came through

Unknown; Order Went Through/Wasn't Canceled

- 2nd Amendment Guns (online) ←- CalGunner successfully placed order

- Arms of America (online) ←- CalGunner successfully placed order

- Jestice Arms (online) ←- CalGunner sucessfully placed online order, but website buggy (server overload → account suspended → working again)

- Palmetto State Armory (online) ←- CalGunner successfully placed online order, but website still says restrictions on CA

- Skid Tactical (online) ←- CalGunner sucessfully placed online order

Waiting/To be Determined

- Discount Gun Mart (SoCal/San Diego) ←- reviewing policy

- Buds Gun Shop (online) ←- credit card went through for one CalGunner, but another CalGunner said that they're reviewing policy

- Grab A Gun (online) ←- credit card went through for one CalGunner, but another CalGunner said that they're reviewing policy

- Gunfighter Tactical (SoCal/San Diego) ←- waiting to sell per their Instagram post

- MTG Firearms (Sacramento/Elk Grove) ←- waiting to sell per their Facebook post

- Primary Arms (online) ←- orders on hold; will review legality on Monday

Hard "No"

- Brownell's (online) ←- cannot submit order to CA zip codes; will review legality on Monday

- Bullseye Sport (SoCal/Riverside) ←- confirmed by CalGunner

- Greg Cote LLC (online) ←- CalGunner order canceled

- Gun Range, The (Sacramento/North Highlands) ←- LEO sales only; confirmed by CalGunner

- MidwayUSA (online) ←- cannot submit order to CA zip codes

- Prepper Gun Shop (online) ←- CalGunner order canceled; will review legality on Monday

- Rifle Gear (SoCal/Fountain Valley) ←- confirmed by CalGunner

______

"The nation that will insist upon drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking by cowards." Lt Gen Sir William Butler, GCB

Selling:

- $75 ATI Folding Stock in FDE for 10/22, $85 Bushnell 3-9x40, $20-$40 Magpul Stocks

Looking For:

- Magpul Hunter X-22 Stock in FDE for 10/22

- Ultimak Rail for Mini-14

Last edited by butlers; 03-30-2019 at 10:24 AM.. Reason: Updated

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>>662876

Both of those google docs aren't up anymore. Imagine my shock.

>>662880

gee, Google docs doesn't seem to be a very reliable thingy.

You cali niggers better run and buy as many magazines as you can until the 9th District overturns it and you'd have to wait until it reaches the Supreme Court.

>>662809

>just mount a high power centrifuge on a fucking satellite

>>663071

They pulled this same shit in 2000 and the mags already owned got grandfathered in.

>>663076

Wouldn't be the dumbest decision ever taken by a department of defence.

Friend just picked up a drum for his m1a1

As an Irishman, I have to ask why there's such controversy about what is and isn't "constitutional" when it comes to firearms.

The second amendment is literally 27 words long, how is there any wiggle room?

>>664198

Jews

Order now, niggers:

http://michellawyers.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/2019-04-04-Order-Staying-in-Part-Judgment-Pending-Appeal.pdf

In the future we will also pass legislation regulating the number of weapons each individual can own. Ideally in the future we would like to have a society where each individual can only owe a few firearms, and only certain types of firearms (like handguns, shotguns, and some rifles).

We will pass these laws democratically and you will have to either accept our democratic process or become a lawbreaker, in which case we have the right to use the security forces of the state to bring you in line with the law.

Cry or whine as much as you like, this is what will happen.

HEADS UP FAGGOTS

You have until 5:00 pm today to order/buy mags. gunmagwarehouse has stopped all sales to CA but whatever was on order is still going through and will likely make it in time. Other sellers will likely follow gunmag. Palmetto is still taking orders for mags until 3:00 pm. Get them while you can.

>>662670

Great! Lets arm the spics for the coming race war.

>>664302

What prompted the stoppage?

>>664364

Benitez issued a partial stay until the case is decided.

>>664198

Generally, when written by somebody with an IQ higher than room temperature, longer texts have a more defined meaning than shorter ones.

>>664198

because, like rest of Bill Of Rights that was tacked on to fool the unwashed masses, it was deliberately FUBAR.

Its a sentence with TWO SUBJECTS and would not pass 4th grade class of 9yr olds.

Legit, unbias scholars will say "we can't say WTF it says".

Funny, you think if they were honest they'd write it so ANYONE would easily know for sure exactly what it meant. Real contracts between honest people are like that. As are "club rules" etc.

"The Constitution is a LIVING DOCUMENT" FUCK YOU!

It like when divorce lawyers size up their clients and keep cumming up with reasons why the Divorce never seems to quite become "done", even if both clients want it done.

>>664430

>unbias

Found the leftist nigger. The Constitution isn't unclear, you're just illiterate. Fucking waste of oxygen.

>>664430

Considering you seem to have a subpar grasp on the English language yourself, I think it prudent for no one to consider anything you have to say.