c90e62 No.660224[Last 50 Posts]
Please fill in this form to surrender your firearms to the crown
https://forms.police.govt.nz/forms/firearms-hand-in
This is for New Zealanders ONLY. Non-kiwis please do NOT visit this url
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75b2b0 No.660233
Sounds like primo shitposting time.
Too bad they can't let you upload pics of your "firearms". I'd take a picture of any nasty shit I take to send to them.
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aa24ea No.660240
does google maps show addresses in NZ? I think i may have to sign up several neighborhoods as having guns to turn in.
will the cops come and visit them to confiscate? pic unrelated
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960a64 No.660241
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db2dc7 No.660243
>>660240
Would using my VPN be a good idea for this, or do you think they're not even bothering to track IPs? I'd hate to put in a bunch of addresses only for them to notice all of them came from the IP and disregard them all. By the looks of the website I don't think they'd even think that far ahead, but still.
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5db389 No.660244
>Are you a professional pest controller?
No, but pic related was.
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c11994 No.660261
New Zealand (former) gun owner here, I'm doing my part to make NZ a safer place for everyone!
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aeec44 No.660268
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c11994 No.660273
>>660268
Hey, this is a serious issue.
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fa59a3 No.660313
>>660240
> I think i may have to sign up several neighborhoods as having guns to turn in.
Or how about every mosque in the country? You know a non-zero number of them have crates of Kalash in the basement.
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5f73f7 No.660347
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ccf9b1 No.660348
>>660224
THEY ADDED A CAPTCHA HOLY FUCK MY SIDES
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cdc049 No.660349
>>660273
>Modified to be as accurate as a 9mm, carried condition fabric
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8ff603 No.660350
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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db2dc7 No.660361
>>660224
>>660261
>>660273
Someone on shit-chan noticed that the maximum file-size for these is over a gigabyte. Make a text file that's 1gb and spam their inbox.
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b5cb78 No.660369
>>660361
Time to tell my kiwi to shitpost on work time.
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fa59a3 No.660373
>>660361
Either that or I need to make a text-only version of The Great Replacement, ASCII art and everything, and spam that.
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ccf9b1 No.660378
>>660224
Give them the addresses of local mosques and use arab names.
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90f1b9 No.660384
In addition to the mosque thing, find out where some the politicians that voted for this live. Use their name and address and say you have full autos with trained guards who will kill anyone that threatens you and that you won't comply with the turn in request.
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972222 No.660401
>>660243
yes
>>660313
underrated post
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2c499b No.660406
>>660348
Jesus Christ that's something a 4th grade teacher would write to teach kids how to parse text, they really think that would stop somebody that knows how to automate a submission?
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a5bbe3 No.660412
>>660406
well this is government form and it should be possible for retards to do it in theory. we cannot have it be vid related
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a71cb9 No.660433
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945963 No.660437
Good news is only 37 guns have been turned in so far. If we end up sending in most of the forms then they’ll be forced to move on to other methods
http://archive.is/xzaVu
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3585dc No.660439
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945963 No.660442
>>660439
Be sure to use a VPN and proxy
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44b0d6 No.660447
>>660442
Lets get this bread
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945963 No.660450
>>660378
Here’s a list of some of the more common first name
Abbas M
Ariana F
Aamira F
Aanisah F
Gafar M
Eliza F
Aydin M
Hamza M
Ghani M
Farha F
Adam M
Aleena F
Ehsan M
Balqees F
Imam M
Aasim M
Banu F
Aaleyah F
Daania F
Feerozah F
Fatima F
Aamanee F
Alesha F
Aaqil M
Aasma F
Gudia F
Haafiz M
Batool F
Alina F
Heena F
Haafiza F
Aishah F
Dilshad F
Ibrahim M
Aaqib M
Aalia F
Ashadieeyah F
Aashir M
Haroon M
Gazala F
Faheem. M
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945963 No.660451
>>660450
List of last names
Abadi
Abboud
Almasi
Amari
Antar
Antoun
Arian
Asfour
Asfour
Asghar
Asker
Aswad
Aswad
Atiyeh
Attia
Awad
Awad
Awad
Ba
Baba
Bahar
Bahar
Basara
Baz
Bishara
Bitar
Botros
Boulos
Boutros
Cham
Dagher
Daher
Deeb
Essa
Fakhoury
Ganem
Ganim
Gerges
Ghannam
Guirguis
Hadad
Haddad
Haik
Hajjar
Hakimi
Halabi
Hanania
Handal
Harb
Isa
Issa
Kalb
Kanaan
Kassab
Kassis
Kattan
Khouri
Khoury
Kouri
Koury
Maalouf
Maloof
Malouf
Maroun
Masih
Mifsud
Mikhail
Moghadam
Morco
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23e2bc No.660454
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3585dc No.660457
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c80bd7 No.660464
I did my part, and will do more later.
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9e6499 No.660467
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9e6499 No.660468
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90f1b9 No.660471
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b08311 No.660472
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b08311 No.660474
>>660472
sage for double post
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d10e38 No.660500
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85d050 No.660502
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deb468 No.660505
>>660500
Time to VPN, also my kiwi fuck been sending them pictures of shit he owns here. I'm glad he found use for the pink paint marker.
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72e97b No.660506
>>660504
>>660500
>>660505
Fuck. My VPN gives me the same issue. I wanted to file a form for Baitul Mokarram Masjid and Islamic Centre and Canterbury Mosque
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mosques_in_Oceania#New_Zealand
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bd531b No.660508
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5ed010 No.660509
>>660500
Welp, I did atleast 20.
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7275c4 No.660512
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3585dc No.660513
>>660508
The most impactful thing you can spread is the truth. Shills convert to ourside all the time due to the constant barrage on their twisted worldview, via having to scour imageboards in a 9-5 job, why can't we do the same with cops? At least batter their desk jockeys with a constant information stream.
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57abc5 No.660516
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3585dc No.660518
>>660515
>>660516
Where did this come from? I don't see where I'm screaming "gas the kikes" in my post.
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00d85b No.660521
>>660518
Don't play coy you dumb twat
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ba3e75 No.660533
>>660518
>Where did this come from?
outsiders that likely rarely if ever visit our humble board. high chance of being from 4kidz, lower chance of being from occupied full/pol/.
never post a 1 megabyte .png again, that's unacceptable.
>>660521
this one is from leftypol
and he can't even prove me wrong
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c02fbf No.660536
>>660224
I visited and submitted from usa
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0f6fc4 No.660538
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dd0fde No.660542
>>660518
>why am I prosecuted so?
Really makes you think
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6f56fd No.660548
>>660521
obligatory "Arf Arf"
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fc84cb No.660550
>>660549
>m-muh everything is controlled opposition
>muh are pee
>the muds were merely pretending of dying
>accelerationism and doing nothing is the only way goy
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fc84cb No.660551
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84ce94 No.660565
Clown pepes are pissing me off. It's not fair to make me fond of something wearing a rainbow wig.
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5ed010 No.660594
Bump because this thread is pissing someone off
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5a7889 No.660603
The kikes aren't a huge fan of this thread. Bump for salt.
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5ed010 No.660605
>>660603
What did you post that made them piss their panties?
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c90e62 No.660606
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/111495677/firearms-changes-prompt-more-than-1000-to-promise-to-surrender-their-guns
>Penny said some people misused the form and submitted "fake" notifications to hand in weapons.
>"In the current environment, this is unacceptable," she said.
>"While these individuals may be short of productive work to do, police are not.
>"These vexatious forms are a huge waste of police time and resources, which could be put to better use."
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5a7889 No.660607
>>660605
Just forgot to hide image so I politely deleted
Pic unrelated
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5ed010 No.660628
>>660607
You're my favorite anon now
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f1bd35 No.660629
>>660533
>lefty/pol/
Wrong
>>660551
>(1)
VPN bro
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84c973 No.660630
Taking bets on the next mass shooting will be in America before the end of next month. Sad to say but statistics don’t lie.
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a2746c No.660634
>>660630
Don’t rule out Canada. Keep your eyes on the CBC, boys.
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5ed010 No.660636
>>660629
Don't punch right bruh
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86550b No.660643
>>660433
The phone number got me rolling when I googled it.
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5a7889 No.660648
>>660634
Dont be a fucking tease you syrup guzzling maple nigger. Pls make it habben.
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3585dc No.660651
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f1bd35 No.660654
>>660636
>right
>left
Different sides of the same authoritarian coin
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f420ec No.660655
>>660521
>>660654
>>660516
>muh /pol/ boogeyman
>ebil neonazies
>y-you're both the same!
pic related
>>660549
>muh rights to own guns
Nobody forces you to cuck out. They're claiming collective responsibility and taking away weapons from the whole nation because of the deeds of someone who wasn't even a local. Go out on the street and protest it, you fucking spineless twat. These gun rights weren't there for only a day, you had years to stockpile. But no, one guy with balls who dared to stand up is muh larper because muh rights. If they can be taken away SO EASILY they weren't rights in the first place. It was PRIVILEGES, rights cannot be infringed like human rights.
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d5c5bc No.660656
>>660655
>rights cannot be infringed like human rights.
Whoa there, human rights are a list of entitlements and privileges as a means of coaxing the population into voluntarily giving up responsibility for their lives to the government through extension of government power under pretext of needing more power to ensure every minority has its rights respected.
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f420ec No.660660
>>660656
> coaxing the population into voluntarily giving up responsibility for their lives to the government
Don't go strawmanning me now, I didn't mean to argue for or against human rights in their current shape or as a concept in general, just pointing out a difference between a privilege as a right. Basically every country that doesn't have right to bear arms by the citizens in the constitution shouldn't be talking about "gun rights"; permits, no matter how easy to acquire, are privileges and can be revoked at their whim, just like now. If BT didn't take action, it'd happen later on another whim.
Now, that NZ is massively disarming its population by collective responsibility, coerces women to wear rags on their heads and arrests people just for trying to find out about Brenton's message and reasoning, you can bet your ass we're not the only people noticing it. How shitskins treat women isn't a mystery at all. Overall it all might work out in our favor despite whining of all these limpwristed blackpill faggots, just have to remember that Rome wasn't built in a day. Or destroyed, in that case.
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c90e62 No.660661
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/385354/police-frustrated-over-fake-notifications-to-hand-in-firearms
Another 1000 people had used an online notification form to tell police of their intentions of handing over firearms, with a significant number of these being "fake", police said.
"Unfortunately, some people have decided it is a good use of their time to misuse the form and submit 'fake' notifications to hand in weapons," a police statement said.
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93c828 No.660667
Mailbait.info
Ticket@police.govt.nz
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5ed010 No.660673
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b850fc No.660691
>>660673
back to >>>/tv/ with you, cancerous shitposter
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5ed010 No.660713
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c80bd7 No.660756
>>660606
>That last line.
We know.
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b70c3b No.660757
>>660606
>"These vexatious forms are a huge waste of police time and resources, which could be put to better use."
That's the point. Bleed the beast, attack their money.
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cfcfa4 No.660764
>>660450
Here are some common names I group hearing
Omar
Saeid
Mohammed
Hussein
Kareem
Osama (My brother went to school with a kid named Osama, I knew his brother Omar, and I also knew another kid named Saeid)
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802e4f No.660776
>>660224
Who was the guys name that said "from my cold dead hands?" and raised a rifle up?
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cfcfa4 No.660779
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f3db64 No.660797
>We are working on a method for you to communicate to us to hand in your firearms.
Kiwi zogbots are gettin' smart with us.
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66f654 No.660810
>>660515
>2nd image
do you even know what the original was attempting to convey? Everyone in the poster has an imbalanced face with uneven eyes, crooked jaws, crooked mouths, etc. It's not saying stocky bald men are subhuman you retard.
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b5ef83 No.660840
>>660797
>they invent a way for foreigners to hand in guns
>shipping costs covered by NZ
>yfw americans sending thousands of 5 dollar MSRP zipguns that NZ has to pay for shipping.
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b758a3 No.660923
>>660433
I was laughing at this shit for few minutes solid, holy shit
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deb468 No.660925
>>660840
>five dollars
Man, I can crank out a four winds for less from scrap in the scrap pile, I can even go cheaper and put the cut outs for a sten on the pipe.
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5ed010 No.660926
>>660654
Good because Fascism isn’t right wing.
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f6872f No.660932
>>660926
>Fascism isn’t right wing.
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5dc997 No.660947
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05dd94 No.660949
>>660932
what's this pic from?
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70c335 No.661000
>>660660
America's constitution isn't protecting gun rights in America, rights only exist as far as people are willing to fight for them. In New Zealand there just aren't a lot of us willing to start killing our political enemies and when we try to organize we are infiltrated.
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b70c3b No.661002
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db2dc7 No.661014
>>660932
It isn't. Fascism is total control of the state over its people; that's as far left wing as left wing gets. Left wing = bigger government whereas right wing = smaller government. Only brainlet retards that don't think for themselves and blindly hear the marxist propaganda of "Oh well duh Nazis were right wing cuz REPUBLICANS ARE NAZIS!!@#"
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f7e6b1 No.661016
>current year
>still buying into the left-right narrative
That spectrum is for the ideologies that are on the side of money, therefore they are all about markets, taxation, property, and all that boring materialism. National socialism is an ideology of blood, therefore putting it on that scale is a waste of time. For them the economy is just a means to an end, not the centre of life.
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1c8943 No.661017
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bf47bc No.661018
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f8fe45 No.661019
>>661014
With how big and deep politics, economies and ideologies have evolved, there are still subhumans who think of politics as a 2D line.
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f8fe45 No.661021
>>661018
>lets show respect to the dead by making the post about my thonged ass
Regardless of ideology, it has been evident and unrefutable now that the "common masses" deserve no "right".
It want even a good run for the peons for the last three centuries.
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bf47bc No.661023
>>661021
>the "common masses" deserve no "right"
as they are right now, yes. propaganda and lies will do that to people. that doesn't mean a strong government can't do it's damnedest to curb it though. Of course, then you have the issue of the government spitting out propaganda and lies, repeating the cycle ad inifinitum.
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b0d837 No.661024
>>661023
The problem is that these propaganda materials are absolutely brainlet tier, even the ones for the supposed "high IQ" academic certified lemmings.
Make me wonder if the noblemen who dreamt of freeing the plebs were high on some drugs when they did it, or they were just retarded after millennias of inbreeding.
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0e8ca1 No.661033
Here, we do not have a problem with the fascism but with the pathocracy, which is:
“pathocracy (n). Pathocracy. A totalitarian form of government in which absolute political power is held by a psychopathic elite, and their effect on the people is such that the entire society is ruled and motivated by purely pathological values”.
or:
“A system of government created by a small pathological minority that takes control over a society of normal people.”
…and where the pathocracy rules, we will have psychopaths not only in the government but in the secret services, police, military, media etc… Brainwashed (and mre or less “psychopathized”!?) population may sometimes notice the symptoms but not the cause, as people get “educated” about the psychopathy by Hollywood movies.
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d49774 No.661035
>>661033
Some of the psychopathy (or more accurate sociopathy) can come from genetics or values (like the kikes) or from those who's experience with the common plebs filled them with disgust over just how moronic and easily cucked their fellow countrymen are to the point they give up and try to pilfer what they can while telling the rest of the populace to go fuck themselves.
Hell, I bet if any of us called the shots, we'd do essentially the same.
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5ed010 No.661036
>>661033
Any kind of government form is a pathocracy.
From the Tigris' shore to the NY skyline.
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47de2a No.661598
>>660317
A phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.
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db9b27 No.665083
>>660549
You absolute nigger
Do you really think (((they))) require a reason to do anything anymore. Europe and America are so fucking brainwashed, they don't have to have a reason, they just do. Don't act like Tarrant somehow gave them the "power" to ban guns in NZ. They don't need an excuse to rape kids, they don't need an excuse to commit war crimes, they done need an excuse to commit genocide, and they sure as shit don't need an excuse to institute a firearms ban.
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80f307 No.665110
>>665083
You see, without any serious talk of a gun ban New Zealanders could've been posturing on faceberg and such about "hehe, muh guns, come take them" with chest puffing how they'll fight "oppressive totalitarian regime" once it infringes on their comfort
The options they were given were
>Wait for disarmament, and ethnic displacement
>Do something and accelerate ethnic displacement and disarmament but at least kill some of the invading force.
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10825d No.665112
>>661036
Did not know Varg was part Finnish.
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1c953b No.665118
>>661033
>pathocracy
Stupid construction. Kakocracy would be appropriate.
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10825d No.665169
>>665118
Think it's latinized as cacocracy.
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197b69 No.665180
>>660550
>>accelerationism and doing nothing is the only way goy
Doing nothing is slow boil, accelerationism is attempting to wake up your own people by coaxing opponent into overconfidence and rushing his plans that would've succeeded with no opposition over decades into years that get the attention.
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8a2d98 No.665188
>>660648
Hey leaf you gonna tap some spigots into some muzzie noggins or what? I've been edging on the idea of a flannel clad twink impaling dune coons with an sks beyonette for weeks.
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2ad528 No.665653
>beautiful landmass
>incompetent government
>disarmed public
Sounds like NZ is in prime need of foreign "liberators"
Who wants to form the goverment of New New Zealand?
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b5cb78 No.665654
>>665653
I'm down for invading a defenseless island. We can make it white people Japan with all the funs, knock guam and the samoas off the top of gun tourism to boot as well.
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2ad528 No.665660
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ed696a No.665667
>>665653
Anon, in maths two negatives form a positive. Seeing as this is clown world (NEW) is something negative, therefore we shall call her ZEALAND. /k/ would have to serve as PMCs permanently and separately from the NZ Government and rule them all or form a Militaristic State and go full fucking ham on the isolationism and in the darkness bind them. We wuz shirelings 'n shieeeeet. The only question is what will our main aircraft, naval vessels, and MBRs be?
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a5bbe3 No.665672
>>665667
>ZEALAND
anon there already is zealand, its a region of netherlands. it would be just rude and confussing more then FYROM/macedonia
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fa9779 No.665687
>>665667
Why don't we just rename it to New Europe and start pirate raids once we are done with consolidating the political and economical system?
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ed696a No.665696
>>665672
>>665687
Well then. Why not just name it Neo Zeon and push our shitposting to MAXIMUM levels? As for pirate raids, we should become the Spiritual Descendants of Atlantis and Lemuria and take The Pacific Ocean. With Australian volunteers on our ships we could have a very noice time of it.
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2ad528 No.665701
>>665687
>>665672
>>665667
I've got it Streloks, since Peter filmed the lotr there
>ARNOR shall rise again
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2ad528 No.665722
>>665701
Or hell, even Gondor, which is home to the "White City". Just a little more based.
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a5bbe3 No.665731
>>665701
great, l will make the logo
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ed696a No.665770
Jacinda - A harridan jewess whore of Shepardim and Ashkenazi stock…possibly even a tranner. The Commonwealth needs to dust off it's boots and rekindle it's roots…if not, then perhaps some IRL Shitposters will just have to take up the mantle. It may just be the perfect place to build a space elevator after the 5 eyes collapse under their own greed and arrogance.
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19d5ef No.665802
I mean, look at the degeneracy that has befallen our beloved Gondor streloks. Is it time for Gondor to rise again?
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19d5ef No.665837
>>665722 I'm down to create new gondor. Question though, are the Maori based or are they cucked like our natives? They are one of the only tribal groups that could actually give a bloody nose to more modern armies without losing thousands in the process. Such warriors, if there are any left, would be quite nice to have in the ranks. If they are cucked though fuckem.
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19d5ef No.665838
Also,
>>665696 I think New Gondor takes the cake as far as names go, but I like the way you think.
>>665667 This is a pretty important step. Isolationism might be our best bet since the U.S. and China might want the shire for themselves. Open trade will help us economically, but could lead our new government to be quite vulnerable from operative fags like the C.I.A. As far as vessels go, what does the land down under have? We might could just "borrow" some of their naval ships from them before we invade.
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deb468 No.665854
>>665837
Most of them were bleached at some point in time.
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33710f No.665869
>>660932
It is neither left nor right. I mean, this is babbys first Fascism, the thing that is said in all literature, together with "not just merely a policy but a worldview".
READ A BOOK NIGGER
This is offtopic, sage.
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33710f No.665870
>>660664
> pro communist China cuck
And also radicalized by Spyro and Fortnite.
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5d248e No.665920
>>665869
The entire left-right scale is obsolete. There should be another axis, where it'd be nationalism vs. globalism.
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583233 No.665925
>>665920
Depends on. How could you be on the right if you are not a nationalist? On the other hand, you are right. Conservatives around 100 years ago would laugh cuckservatives of our times in the face claiming to be on the right wing. Todays conservatives (that is to say, most self-proclaimed right winger) are yesterdays liberals (its quiet literally the case in my country) as conservatives are playing the liberals game called "democracy" in which said leftists keep beating them into giving up their ideas ad infinitum…
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5d248e No.665926
>>665925
>How could you be on the right if you are not a nationalist?
The issue is you won't find two people that would agree on what right wing actually is. Majority would say big corporations like Disney are definitely right-wing since capitalism = right wing. Yet you see Disney push leftist propaganda all the time, since they too regard the old capitalismXsocialism conflict as obsolete and are now pursuing other ambitions, which no longer fit on the leftXright scale
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041514 No.665928
>>665802
the last names are a nice touch
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67db63 No.665929
>Guy shoots people
>TV says "gief gunz plox"
>Give guns because TV says
?????
SUBJUGATION
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19d5ef No.665938
>>665854
Bleached as in mixed with whites, killed off, or something else?
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5224fb No.665942
>>665920
It's more than that, the scale of left and right is only useful to describe the political forces that serve money. In a conflict between blood and money it's completely useless, because it simply doesn't work for blood. Or to put it more plainly: the left-right scale is all about economic activity and individualism. The moment you start seeing the economy as a means to an end and priorise the survival of your people over the petty problems of a simple citizen is the moment you leave behind the left-right scale. Suddenly those rats who call for open borders in the name of capitalism are barely different from Marxists.
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5224fb No.665943
>>665942
Wait, I already posted it ITT: >>661016
Oh well, I will just keep repeating myself.
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f6872f No.665944
>>665920
>>665942
This.
I never understood why anything other than natsocs and fascists are considered "right wing". Anyone who isn't 100% pro-white and pro-white ethnostate is a left-wing parasite.
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5224fb No.665945
>>665944
You completely missed the point. Fascism isn't left or right wing, because operates in an entirely different plane. It's like arguing if the steering wheel should be on the left or the right side of a fighter plane with a single seat, even though it doesn't even have one.
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dc08c8 No.665946
>>665942
>if i ignore the economy it'll go away
Works every time.
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f6872f No.665948
>>665945
tbh I was always confused as to what exactly the fuck fascism is but everyone calls it "nazi" so I guessed that surely it must be right-wingdon't you dare bully me
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0e0149 No.665950
>>665946
I think he meant that economy shouldn't be the single defining factor upon which you base your ideology and the governance of your state. I mean communism is all about "muh means of production" and "giving all power to the proletariat", does that make it the best ideology ever existed?
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dc08c8 No.665951
>>665950
>economy shouldn't be the single defining factor upon which you base your ideology and the governance of your state
It's largely more relevant that any other measure you can come up with, as in "The plans differ, the planners all alike".
>I mean communism is all about "muh means of production" and "giving all power to the proletariat", does that make it the best ideology ever existed?
No, probably the worst one, as it's economic focus is purely a destructive one.
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0e0149 No.665953
>>665951
So you want to do the exact opposite. That is to say, you want to spend the most emphasis on the economy of your system, barely thinking about the religion/ethnicity of your country in the present or in the future.
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10825d No.665954
>>665945
This. Natsocs usually self-describe as "third position" since the right/left dichotomy is outdated by two centuries, does not represent the original dichotomy and is intentionally misleading and doesn't actually represent an ideological conflict, the true conflict is between nature and semitic corruption.
There are also a wide spectrum of degrees of economic and social libertarianism within the third position; ancap (in its rarer less pozz'd naturalistic context), fascists, national socialists, anarchonationalists, are all valid forms of political diversity within our ranks.
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dc08c8 No.665955
>>665953
>you want to spend the most emphasis on the economy of your system, barely thinking about the religion/ethnicity of your country in the present or in the future
I don't want to drive the nation in the stone age, first and foremost, as creating an all-powerful entity that actively makes your people poorer is not something i'd do for cheap populism. Especially since a nation's culture and traditions are not something extremely fragile that needs extended protection to survive and progress, assuming your nation isn't a nation of worthless slaves.
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0e0149 No.665957
>>665955
I find your line of thinking interesting. Can you tell me how you got to these conclusions?
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dc08c8 No.665961
>>665957
I'm just looking at historical context of nations. If your nation is real and has a gistory and tradition behind it it'll just live on as it did since it naturally appeared. It's when your nation is a mdae up farce then you'll have to force its values onto other people that happen to live in your country, and that'll definitely not go well or productive for them. See for example, Ukraine - there is little of a nation in them, aside from common dislike of Russian politics, so when Ukrainian nationalists try to "preserve" something that never was they end up with an even poorer country that robs it's citizens to fund the removal and replacement of their culture. Reminds of someone else, doesn't it?
This also applies to barbaric degeneracy that some try to impose as national values. Another brand of nationalistic populism is to claim some values to be sacred and preserve them at all costs when a nation has long abandoned them for the sake of more evolved and practical ones, as nations naturally do as they improve.
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10825d No.665967
>>665961
Dude, okay we get it. You are angry towards traditional religious values because Putin doesn't allow you to stick meat up your ass but try to understand that if ebul Orthodox bigots weren't there your sodomite ass would have been thrown off the town's tallest building by chechens like half century ago.
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dc08c8 No.665968
>>665967
Fuck off greekworm. I'm not debating jews.
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10825d No.665970
>>665968
Yeah, I bet circumcised is not enough for you.
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dc08c8 No.665971
>>665970
Didn't i tell you to fuck off? I don't care about your infantile projections, fucking jew.
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10825d No.665973
>>665971
THE SODOMITE FEARS THE CRUSADER
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dc08c8 No.665974
>>665973
You're in no position to call anyone a sodomite, pedophilic jew.
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10825d No.665976
>>665974
You could have a point there if based Theodosius did not rectify our past misdeeds.
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dc08c8 No.665977
>>665976
Great, now the only thing you're lacking is approval from Israel, semitic scum.
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10825d No.665982
>>665977
What is your beef with Israel? Gays-oppressing Vlad being in good terms with them or those Leviticus 20:13 lines in the Torah?
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dc08c8 No.665997
>>665982
>What is your beef with Israel?
Your shared religion.
>Gays-oppressing
Like i care. Your repeated projecting of your faggotry on me is getting tiring. Make up something new of fuck off, you homosexual spergreek.
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f6872f No.666015
>>665997
>israel
>christianity
What did the slavtard mean by this?
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dc08c8 No.666019
>>666015
>christianity
>greek
>protecting protestantism
Checks out. Good try, rabbi.
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f6872f No.666021
>>666019
Holy shit you truly are one braindead motherfucker. Not even worth replying.
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dc08c8 No.666022
>>666021
>i was found out
oy vey
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a98700 No.666023
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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10825d No.666025
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>666019
>Martin Luther was merely pretending hating the kikes
>he was just a jew using reverse psychology
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dc08c8 No.666026
>>666025
>t. protestant kike
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10825d No.666029
>>666026
>implying I am a fun of cuckoldry
We are not the ones mass exporting our females to turkey and israel.
Martin Luther was right on the kikes and the Pope as their pawn, but his mistake was that instead of returning to the original fold creating an Autocephaly and calling it a day he instead chose to go full rebellious skeptic teenager phase and make his own denomination dooming all his followers into the nihilistic libertarian debauchery that kikes thrive in.
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dc08c8 No.666030
>>666029
>We are not the ones mass exporting our females to turkey and israel.
Are you?
>all his followers into the nihilistic libertarian debauchery that kikes thrive in
<i-it's your fault, you're the same
Keep going, kike
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10825d No.666034
>>666030
>Are you?
https://www.rferl.org/a/1060878.html
>>all his followers into the nihilistic libertarian debauchery that kikes thrive in
><i-it's your fault, you're the same
What are you even trying to say?
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dc08c8 No.666036
>>666034
>eastern Europeans
>greek
kek
>What are you even trying to say?
leave it to a jew to blame others of their own failure.
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10825d No.666040
>>666036
>Greece is "Eastern Europe" but Russia isn't
The article literally starts with a photo from Russia.
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10825d No.666041
>>666036
>>666040
>Maria's story is a common one in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet republics.
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dc08c8 No.666042
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10825d No.666045
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dc08c8 No.666046
>>666045
>the jew is proud of his work
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10825d No.666048
>>666046
>Greece is a transit and destination country for women and children who are subjected to human trafficking, specifically forced prostitution and conditions of forced labor for men, women, and children. Female sex trafficking victims originate primarily in Eastern Europe and former Soviet bloc countries.
>According to the 2001 Greek census, there were 797,091 documented foreigners living in Greece, with a large number from Albania, Romania, Russia, and the Ukraine.[10]
Almost all traffickers here are either ((("Russian"))) or turks and the vast majority of their non-sandnigger cargo is eastern Slavs.
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dc08c8 No.666049
>>666048
>Almost all traffickers here are either ((("Russian"))) or turks
<I-it was not real greeks
Fucking pottery. is there one greek in your nation that is not turk? it seems they do absolutely everything that happens in there.
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10825d No.666063
>>666049
>Greek pimps are stealing our women
Guess you won't have a problem providing proofs.
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dc08c8 No.666064
>>666063
>Greek pimps
You just said they were turks. Are you saying that i should use "greek" and "turk" interchangeably?
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10825d No.666065
>>666064
>the turks you accuse for trafficking are Greeks
>>666063
>what are you basing your accusation of the traffickers being Greek on?
>>666049
>ha! you admitted turks are Greek
Are you merely pretending being retarded?
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dc08c8 No.666066
>>666065
Here
>>666048
<Almost all traffickers here are either ((("Russian"))) or turk
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10825d No.666069
>>666066
Yes, retard. People exporting stuff are more often than not people from the country the exported stuff are produced. The burden of proof that either Greek nationals of Greek diaspora abduct thousands of Slav girls and tens of thousands of Middle Eastern shitskins to bring in Greece which is clearly stated in the wiki article that its an intermediate destination is up to you.
Plus even if that was the case it does make you look more like cucks since a tiny peaceful country of Westernized eurocuck yesmen literally pimps the women of the world's second military superpower.
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dc08c8 No.666073
>>666069
>People exporting stuff are more often than not people from the country the exported stuff are produced.
Oh, so i guess greeks are just standing there looking somewhere else, right? It's a coincidence that the country is question is greece, there are others guillible too!
>either Greek nationals of Greek diaspora abduct thousands of Slav girls
Oh no, what can i do, i have to back a claim i never made. Where will i find the greeks that keep the women near them when they've already sold them? Gosh darn, i'm defeated.
>which is clearly stated in the wiki article that its an intermediate destination
Aren't we talking about those who are kidnapped and enslaved here? Nobody cares if someone uses your shithole trashcan country as a bus stop.
>a tiny peaceful country of Westernized eurocuck yesmen
Oh, i know another peaceful country in the middle of somewhere too.
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10825d No.666088
>>666073
>Oh, so i guess greeks are just standing there looking somewhere else, right?
No. Sometimes we buy stuff from the (((Russians))), but regarding turk's merchandise we follow the American Independence tea approach.
>Oh no, what can i do, i have to back a claim i never made.
So you just accuse Greece for something that just occurs in the whole fucking world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_Belgium
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_Iceland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_Luxembourg
when your country is among the primary origins of the issue?
>Aren't we talking about those who are kidnapped and enslaved here?
Exactly. I don't see how that's OUR problem.
>Oh, i know another peaceful country in the middle of somewhere too.
Yes but (((they))) control the world bank, the Academia, the Judicial system of the US and all western European countries, the entirety of the mainstream media and the majority of organized crime. What international influence does Greece have? A merchant fleet and Parthenon card-postals?
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dc08c8 No.666099
>>666088
>regarding turk's merchandise we follow the American Independence tea approach
How do turks manage to do the trafficking them since you're so bravely fighting your genetic brothers?
>something that just occurs in the whole fucking world
Oy vey, look at these a lot smaller migration numbers, it's totally same as actual kidnappings and sexual slavery, goy!
>your country is among the primary origins of the issue?
Well, we, for once, don't welcome that here. It's the post-communist cops and their criminal buddies that do that. You simply jump around from "it's turks" to "everyone does it" and "maybe but just a little".
>I don't see how that's OUR problem
Gee, really, you're just accepting the offer. How could there be anything wrong with that, right?
>What international influence does Greece have?
Seems like it's simply an intermediary and a pawn in a global jewish scheme. no surprise here.
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10825d No.666108
>>666099
>How do turks manage to do the trafficking them since you're so bravely fighting your genetic brothers?
When we have direct (((EU))) orders to not open fire against fence jumping scum and void our sentinel position at first sign of such occurrence. Yes, we can pin the blame on our cuckoldry in that one.
>Oy vey, look at these a lot smaller migration numbers,
Yeah, really sorry we had the misfortune to be in the crossing point between the first, second and turd world.
>it's totally same as actual kidnappings and sexual slavery, goy!
Which occur primarily in your country and in negligible amounts in mine.
>Gee, really, you're just accepting the offer.
We accept no offer, retard. We can't be policing every single criminal occurrence in our clay, at least not with fucking Western libertarian cuckoldry, you so much admire, as the law of the land.
>Seems like it's simply an intermediary and a pawn in a global jewish scheme
Like literally every other country in the world?
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dc08c8 No.666115
>>666108
>When we have direct (((EU))) orders
Oh, but so does everyone else. it seems like you're the ones who're making a buck from that, even.
>crossing point between the first, second and turd world
Oh, so that explains why the trafficking involves so many Russians and Ukrainians, right? Such a far located north african countries!
>Which occur primarily in your country and in negligible amounts in mine
Wow, sure, look at these stats, surely it were Russians who came in greece to rape those kidnapped women in there!
75% of trafficked women in Greece are brought into the country under false pretenses and, believing that an opportunity for lawful employment awaits them in Greece, suddenly find themselves sold to those involved in the sex trade and threatened with violence and deportation if they refuse to cooperate, and they become too frightened to report it.[9][12] The average age of a sex worker in Greece is also lowering, and currently sits at about 12–15 years of age.[12][17] Trafficked women work anywhere from 6 to 12 hours a day and see anywhere from 40-110 clients a day.[9][17] 70% or more of their earnings, however, go to the brothel owners or pimps in order to keep the women in debt bondage.[17] Trafficked women are likely to face physical abuse, threats, intimidation, emotional abuse, sexual abuse, and to experience drug and alcohol addiction, injuries resulting from violence, and various mental health problems as a result of the trauma they are exposed to.[6][8] Women who are victims of trafficking also often suffer from sexually transmitted diseases and other infectious diseases
>Western libertarian cuckoldry
Kek
>Like literally every other country in the world?
Oh, no, Moishe, like very few (((selected))) countries that are allowed to participate in a valuable financially activity.
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10825d No.666122
>>666115
> seems like you're the ones who're making a buck from that, even
Proofs?
>Oh, so that explains why the trafficking involves so many Russians and Ukrainians, right? Such a far located north african countries!
Are you implying Bulgaria and Romania don't have human trafficking or that they were part of the western block when your communist joke collapsed on its face and Yeltsin sold all their women to the closest Western port?
>75% of trafficked women in Greece are brought into the country under false pretenses
>BREAKING NEWS! Greece has (((Russian))) mafia branches! More at 11'!
> that are allowed to participate in a valuable financially activity.
You realize we went from second fastest growing economy during the junta to complete economic ruin the moment we jined the (((EU))) right?
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10825d No.666123
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dc08c8 No.666125
>>666122
>Proofs?
This whole info existing? Are your retarded? How could anything but organized crime make this thing so widespread?
>Are you implying Bulgaria and Romania don't have human trafficking
Bring the proofs, do your job, turkmonkey.
>BREAKING NEWS! Greece has (((Russian))) mafia branches! More at 11'!
<mafias don't organize, it's all a (((coincidence)))
>You realize we went from second fastest growing economy during the junta to complete economic ruin the moment we jined the (((EU))) right?
I've heard something similar from leftists telling me that Venezuela's exceptional growth was only stopped by ebil capitalists.
>>666123
>kike
Kek, call others that way a few mroe times, yid.
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50e808 No.666129
>>666023
Holy shit, my sides
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10825d No.666137
>>666125
>This whole info existing? Are your retarded? How could anything but organized crime make this thing so widespread?
How about we check wikipedia about it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_mafia
>Territory Active in many parts of Eastern Europe
Criminal activities Human trafficking, racketeering, drug trafficking, extortion, murder, robbery, smuggling, arms trafficking, gambling, fencing, prostitution, pornography, money laundering, fraud, and financial crimes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_mafia
>Drug trafficking, arms trafficking, assassination, assault, bank fraud, bankruptcy, blackmailing, bribery, bombing, contract killing, extortion, fraud, entryism, illegal gambling, Insurance fraud, kidnapping, money laundering, murder, police corruption, political corruption, protection racket, racketeering, tax evasion, witness intimidation, witness tampering
>Criminal groups on the Greek mainland have also profited from the activities of corrupt officials. Arms, narcotics and illegal oil are smuggled by Greek criminal organizations, often in collaboration with Albanian or Russian mafia groups
The closest to your claim is "kidnapping" with no active participation in trafficking.
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dc08c8 No.666138
>>666137
>The closest to your claim is "kidnapping" with no active participation in trafficking
So it's Russian mafia doing it's dirty things in Greece? Or are greeks doing this on their own?
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10825d No.666139
>>666138
"Kidnapping" refers mostly to rich businessmen for ransom
https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/kidnapping/
It would make no sense to locally kidnap girls for prostitution when prostitution is legal.
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10825d No.666141
>>666138
>So it's Russian mafia doing it's dirty things in Greece?
Pretty much yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Greece
>Prostitution in Greece is legal at the age of 18, and regulated.[1] It is estimated that fewer than 1,000 women are legally employed as prostitutes and approximately 20,000 women, most of foreign origin, are engaged in illegal prostitution.[2][3][4]
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dc08c8 No.666144
>>666139
Wikipedia states "sex trade" for victims of trafficking in greece. The average age also sits at around 12-15 years, which might explain how do they compare with legal 18+ prostitutes.
>>666141
>Pretty much yes.
But how? And why Greece? If anything, they'd be mostly sent to Asia and other south, so what are they doing in Greece?
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10825d No.666147
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>But how? And why Greece?
Because Greece has been an insertion point for both the Middle East and the Western Europe long before Romania and Bulgaria joined the EU and even before the eastern bloc fell.
And if you wonder why "White-flesh" smuggling isn't a particularly favorable activity among the native crooks let me give you a hint with pic related.
Now multiply 0.1% X 10 million and then with 150 million and that's the most conservative estimation
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dc08c8 No.666151
>>666147
>"White-flesh" smuggling isn't a particularly favorable activity among the native crooks
Nothing says it isn't.
>pic related
Sounds fake, greeks are far too close with jews, even if not officially recognized.
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10825d No.666153
>>666151
>everyone is a jew but me even though I approve both yeltsin lolbergtardianism and soviet communism, accuse every other European ethnicity of being jews and I throw a hissy fit every time Christian imagery is presented
Keep trying to DnC, Schlomo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Greece
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10825d No.666154
>>666153
>>666151
sorry almost forgot:
>I hate things like conscription and strong nationalist leaders that would make my own country stronger and purge internal traitors
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1c8943 No.666157
So is there a takeaway from this spergout or was it just a waste of time and bandwidth?
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dc08c8 No.666159
>>666153
>everyone is a jew
No, just greeks. Given how /pol/tard you are you should be aware of that. Ashkenazim jews are closer only to turks.
>I approve both yeltsin lolbergtardianism and soviet communism
That'd be funny.
>every other European ethnicity
Again, greeks are not European
>>666154
>I hate things like conscription
You already sperged out fully in that thread. Go there if you want to be a retard some more.
>strong nationalist leaders that would make my own country stronger and purge internal traitors
Imagine being this pathetically oblivious.
I'm going to sleep and i'm getting tired of this autistic shitflinging so i'll just go and do that and filter your sperg ass from now on. i'm not giving you any more (you)'s to not motivate you to further shit up the board with your pitful LARPing presence. Good job being a retarded jewish slave.
>>666157
As usual, of course, the latter. It was never intended as a discussion and was started because of his brainless LARP against all the citizens that he called leftists, soyboys and cowards and deprived of rights. So much for a strong nation when when the nation is completely broken and in chains.
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0aa168 No.666160
>>666157
i learned that Greece is the place to go for Russian mail order brides
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6b16a4 No.666161
>>666159
It takes two to tango, retardo. You're not in the position to act condescending to anybody right now.
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10825d No.666162
>>666158
To the Czech guy that deleted his post for understandable reasons. I don't idealize conscription. Just view it as a necessary evil with major potential benefits in it if cancerous attitudes like apoliticality were to removed from the institution.
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dc08c8 No.666163
>>666158
Would you like your country if it was the way it used to be during communist takeover, yet the majority of people were gloating about it as if they deserved it? Very few don't hate current government here, from nationalists of all kinds to leftists and monarchists. They are doing little but rob and steal, they raised the retirement age even further beyond the average life expectancy not long ago, ffs. I don't have and even like many parts of Imperial Russia and monarchy associated with it. I'm not much of a fan of history but i like my language and enjoy studying its depths. I like many cultural aspects, even some that were forced by communist rule, like proliferation of saving up things and DIY, as well as creativity associated with these things, the resourcefulness. When not state-controlled, Russian culture still evolves and is one of the few that are complicated and strong enough to create its own within the internet instead of just being translated English speaking part(it's often called RuNet - рунет). We've also had achieved quite a lot in different arts, have lots of cultural relics and talented people whose legacy still impresses and motivates others to create. I'll admit, the current parasitic rule even has allowed some freedom that many eu states lack, though it might be because of the sheer amount of land avaible. Still, the hands down rule allows people to act with a lot less things told to, even if this is compromised by numerous threats that are almost unknown to other nations, backed up by inability to defend yourself and etc.
It's complicated when communism has tried to set roots into everything it tried here, yet there's still things to love despite this proliferation of doing everything through state-related bureaucratic hellish institutions.
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dc08c8 No.666164
>>666161
Fair enough. I'll try to restrain myself from doing that from now on.
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10825d No.666165
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>>666164
No you won't when you don't miss a chance to cry how big bad vlad represses you from expressing your sexuality by making an economically independent and militarily strong country.
>>666163
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5d248e No.666171
>>666163
Well, the way I see it, your government is the only one in recent history to actually go and reclaim its rightful clay, not to mention NOT being a vassal to a foreign power, NOT actively trying to destroy its own culture and NOT promoting faggots and associated mental illnesses. You complain about retirement age, but we will go in retirement at the same age as you, with people being too docile to even make a big deal out of it - they just accepted it. Current government is experiencing the, economically, best period in our nation's history, yet it used said boon to plummet my country further into debt and get votes by propagating various socialist and welfare programs. Hatespeech laws are real and people DO go to court over it. Corruption is widespread, anything to do with state always having corruption with it, on every level, from towns to the entire nation. And as for communism, you might not realise it, but communism is comming from the west, the EU becoming more and more similar to USSR with each passing year.
I don't think you realise just how shitty the west it - all that economic success is bought by the relinquismnet of freedoms and betrayal of peoples. Your culture is evolving, as you say. Ours is dying.
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dc08c8 No.666173
>>666171
>your government is the only one in recent history to actually go and reclaim its rightful clay
It positions it so but in reality it only cared about its influence and propaganda, with this move having consequences that keep going even now. Our news might as well be called Ukrainian, as it's a topic that is talked about more often that our country, constantly forging the us vs them and submissive mentalities with all the power of money-fed government controlled tv.
>NOT being a vassal to a foreign power
What's good in not being a vassal to some 3rd party when you're yourself a slave? It bleeds money while its people are dying on the streets, literally burying anyone under their gifts everyone but their people for every little bit of influence. And it's not like jewish presence here is any different either.
>NOT actively trying to destroy its own culture
it actually does, quite a lot. The propaganda is not as ever-prevalent as during the union but it's a lot more dirty, blatant and cancerous. It destroys everything it touches, really, even more than communist propaganda(not the communist ideology, mind you) itself did. Before, scientists and other educated people had to follow the party lines but commonly didn't really care, while now you'd have to actively propagate the empty propagandist vows to get anywhere, repeating them as if they were the very language. Of course it doesn't do good to the fields it's in, resulting in theories like telegony, proliferation of useless BAAs and even powerful organization of homeopathy that actually has political power in its field.
>NOT promoting faggots
It is promoting other kind of faggots though, and they burn buildings and try to kill people, all while being immune to laws due to being valuable to propaganda. And it's not like it banned faggotry, it just shoved them in denial so they become abusive cops, husbands, politicians and priests, all under the veil of public disliking of those who come open.
>associated mental illnesses
Honestly, devotion ot the state is a mental illness in its own right, especially in this case.
>we will go in retirement at the same age as you
Yet your people live for 80+ years, while ours die at 60, on average
>Hatespeech laws are real and people DO go to court over it
So do people in here get in jail for singe protest or even a simple repost(once, a repost of an official with a prohibited phrase so one got jailed for posting that guy's photo).
>Corruption is widespread, anything to do with state always having corruption with it, on every level, from towns to the entire nation
Yes but we're talking entire levels of difference here. On higher levels the money literally evaporate and even on lower ones corrupt deals are likely done almost as often as clear ones.
>communism is comming from the west, the EU becoming more and more similar to USSR with each passing year
Maybe, though i'm unsure it'll last for long for you.
>I don't think you realise just how shitty the west it
I don't think you do - we have all you do, yet it's dirtier, uglier, more primitive and hopeless. Try once to visit, especially some of the smaller cities, and you'll realize that you have a long way to go.
>Your culture is evolving, as you say. Ours is dying.
Only somewhat small parts of culture, really. As a whole, it is losing more that it gains with coming years. It's just there are still pieces that aren't unpleasant to look at, yet. You are in one of the places where the culture is created as well, and in much greater amounts and quality than in some localized small place, aside from few exceptions. We were talking about different things here and you do not fully realize what you already bear.
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a24433 No.666175
>>660437
"When my husband died his guns were handed to family holding the requisite license. Daughter of crack shot food hunting parents, I have used guns from the age of 9. Today I requested that those guns be handed in for destruction."
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10825d No.666178
>>666173
>yet it's dirtier, uglier, more primitive and hopeless
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome
pic related
>So do people in here get in jail for singe protest or even a simple repost
That's also the case for the UK but at least your police imprisons hippies and leftards instead that should not have rights in the first place.
>On higher levels the money literally evaporate and even on lower ones corrupt deals are likely done almost as often as clear ones
At least they don't go directly to shitskins that want to kill you and rape your family.
>i'm unsure it'll last for long for you
Without any rugged White males around to protect the "revolutionary ideals" it will most likely be replaced by Sharia at its first decade
>What's good in not being a vassal to some 3rd party when you're yourself a slave of duty to your people?
Dunno? Like survival of your greater genetic legacy Read Siege and then The Selfish Gene, you pinko anarcho-hippy.
> constantly forging the us vs them and submissive mentalitie
Why is your every second post related to maso-bondage?
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dc08c8 No.666181
>>666178
>Paris syndrome
No, it's actually different. Again, you can visit to understand better but i'll just say that roads are not the only things that are in eternal state of badness.
>your police imprisons hippies and leftards instead that should not have rights in the first place
Our communists are mostly of authoritarian types, have their political party and mostly welcomed and protected though, and while democucks being beat up isn't bad, nationalists and your conservatives get punches just as often, especially when most protests aren't about gay rights but another massive theft.
>At least they don't go directly to shitskins that want to kill you and rape your family.
They do, actually. Chechens are some of the more loud above-the-law citizens of Russia. I remember one streamer having to flee Russia for several years because he joked about them and had more viewers.
>survival of your greater genetic legacy
Is there any? We've had communists for almost a century and now have an updated and possibly even more ruthless regime. It's not self reliance when the system feeds upon itself, really.
>slave of duty to your people
You with, more like a slave to fat slobs that look on you as if they were any superior when being the embodiment of the ugliest, degenerate traits of a human with none of the culture, heritage or anything related to your nation. Their kids most often show that - by spending their lives in other countries, with the only thing to say about those people who are left there is that they are a bunch of barbaric peasants.
>Why is your every second post related to maso-bondage?
because it's a common trend in there and i'm disgusted by it the most. Imagine that you were born a slave, like your father and his father did. Now imagine what consequences did it have on you as a whole. Those most supportive of the current government tend to praise any violent or aggressive measure even when it directly hurts them, all for the sake of a "strong hand", which is a common saying among those, almost like something holy.
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5d248e No.666183
>>666173
>constantly forging the us vs them
I mean what's wrong with that? Ukrainian press is painting you as literal devils. It's good to have some proper enemies to genocide, just look at the Greek and how brightly his hate for Turks glows. This antipathy ensures the cultures and people will remain distint, as they will be averse to growing together, and will, with some luck, also provide for a good war or two.
>What's good in not being a vassal to some 3rd party when you're yourself a slave?
There are things greater than the individual. A century or two from now, nobody will remember who you were, but Crimea will still be inhabited by Russians and bring taxes into Russian treasure (unless somebody else grabs it during that time, naturally)
>The propaganda is not as ever-prevalent as during the union but it's a lot more dirty, blatant and cancerous.
I am very familiar with Russian propaganda. I compare it to western one on a daily basis so as to try and figure out the actual truth in this mess, and I must say the Russian one is, as you say, adorably blatant. You KNOW you are reading propaganda since it's so bare faces and open about it. The western one is not, instead trying to pretend to be objective, and thus much more insidious and with a lot more infuriating bullshit surrounding it. Russian propaganda is like "AMERICA BAD, RUSSIA GOOD, OK?" while western one is like "Did you know what Russians hacked the elections and that they have troops near the Baltics and that they have so many weapons? Really makes you scared, right? Especially when they drink so much vodka. Now I'm not trying to insinuate anything, but what if a drunk Russian was near nuclear missiles? Hmmm? A pre-emptive strike, as much as it tears my heart to say, might be necessary. Vote Democrat 2020."
>It is promoting other kind of faggots though, and they burn buildings and try to kill people
No, fuck off. Faggots are faggots, other shitters are other shitters. Do not conflate the terms here.
>all while being immune to laws due to being valuable to propaganda
I mean so long as they kill faggots and jews and the like, I am okay with this, since what they do is not a crime, but a public service
>it just shoved them in denial so they become abusive cops, husbands, politicians and priests, all under the veil of public disliking of those who come open.
I preffer fags in denial to open flaming homos
>Honestly, devotion ot the state is a mental illness
Are you a jew?
>Yet your people live for 80+ years
72. Actually, the age of 65 for retirement was not the initial proposal. The original, proposed age of retirement was 72, but it got scrapped since it was judged too unpopular a move.
>On higher levels the money literally evaporate
There's a high profile corruption scandal here literally every month on average. As for low profile, my father works in construction. He says that jacking the price up by 20% for anything state-related is industry practice since the officials do not give a shit, and that officials asking for a bribe isn't unusual. There's also the matter of EU. With anything funded by EU, there's like a 90% chance of it being corrupt. Our own PM is involved in EU corruption scandal.
>Try once to visit, especially some of the smaller cities, and you'll realize that you have a long way to go.
You are conflating poverty with ideology. A country can be poor as shit, with people dying of starvation and disease in the streets, yet still be more ideologically pure than an opulent ocuntry where wine streams from every fountain.
>You are in one of the places where the culture is created as well, and in much greater amounts and quality than in some localized small place, aside from few exceptions.
There hasn't been ANY culture being created here in the past two decades. All the old traditions are dying, religion is ridiculed, the only books being published are either empty trite of no value or actively push globohomo multiculti or similar, or it's some faggot "activist" making a sculpture mocking fucking DRUMPF, except instead of Trump it's some local politician who's the target. The only (((popular))) local movie in recent times was about how gypsies are cool, otherwise it's all Hollyjew shit, and the music just copies western pop, to the point of sometimes being sung in fucking english.
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10825d No.666184
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>>666181
>Those most supportive of the current government tend to praise any violent or aggressive measure even when it directly hurts them, all for the sake of a "strong hand", which is a common saying among those, almost like something holy.
Ever considered that they maybe right? Especially since watching the West die and rot due to its on weakness and lack of discipline?
>because it's a common trend in there and i'm disgusted by it the most. Imagine that you were born a slave, like your father and his father did
I'd imagine it builds character. Use to your advantage instead of envying those who are corroding away as consequence of their convenience.
>They do, actually. Chechens are some of the more loud above-the-law citizens of Russia. I remember one streamer having to flee Russia for several years because he joked about them and had more viewers.
I know. Here I can fully agree with you. There's no greater sin than feeding kebabs, but still it's in a mass lesser scae compared to what happens in most of Western Europe.
>You with, more like a slave to fat slobs that look on you as if they were any superior when being the embodiment of the ugliest, degenerate traits of a human with none of the culture
I can sympathize with that, we don't have many but still have jews. Still Yeltsin has proven that there are much much worse things than Putin in that aspect. There's only so much a figure of public standing can press against the ZOG.
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10825d No.666185
>>666183
Czech has wisdom of falcon.
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dc08c8 No.666187
>>666183
>I mean what's wrong with that?
Well, we're mostly the same people and most Ukrainians don't want that war.
>Crimea will still be inhabited by Russians and bring taxes into Russian treasure
I doubt Crimea will be profitable any time soon. Just like Chechnya, yet they'll drain even more money from other, already poor regions.
>You KNOW you are reading propaganda since it's so bare faces and open about it
You contact with it a lot less that we do, and one of the tactics they employ is to just shit everything up so you can't find anything and not get covered in this shit completely. You don't have that but here we have little ground for independent thought because of that. It's one of the major reasons i rarely use Russian part of the internet these days.
>Faggots are faggots, other shitters are other shitters
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>so long as they kill faggots and jews and the like
They don't, they absolutely not. If anything, they are the most corrupt and have the most of them, besides prisons. I mean, corruption aside, you can read about homos in here if you translate that https://wowavostok.livejournal.com/5825895.html
>I preffer fags in denial to open flaming homos
Me too, though there are other things that come with that.
>Are you a jew?
No, a Russian. I just separate people, nation and a state.
>72
And are you forced to pay tax to feed the previous generation, with these money being lost forever and your retirement decided by bureaucrats instead. You pay a quarter of your wage because communists made the retirement a mandatory pyramid scheme that now falls apart, forcing the thieves to make it even more useless, with more than half of the people never hoping to get anything back from that.
>There's a high profile corruption scandal here literally every month on average.
I don't look at these nowadays but those that search usually find several huge ones every day, from forks 1000$ each to glocks for 30k$/ea. Most don't get to the big media, though, and none but fakes and backstabbings get to big tv.
>A country can be poor as shit, with people dying of starvation and disease in the streets, yet still be more ideologically pure than an opulent ocuntry where wine streams from every fountain.
maybe, but it certainly can't be said about post-communist country, especially the center of a former empire at that.
>There hasn't been ANY culture being created here in the past two decades.
memes are culture. Other things are as well. You just have to look deeper, and look at what you yourself are using.
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5d248e No.666189
>>666187
>Well, we're mostly the same people and most Ukrainians don't want that war.
Being mostly the same people has never stopped anyone from a good war, and they put up an US puppet so they deserve whatever comes their way
>I doubt Crimea will be profitable any time soon.
I think you're being too pessimist, it's not some kebab shithole like Chechnya.
>You contact with it a lot less that we do, and one of the tactics they employ is to just shit everything up so you can't find anything and not get covered in this shit completely.
I assure you we get plenty of propaganda over here. Just today, I got to read about how priests are rapists (so don't you dare be religious, goy), how poor jews in New York get targeted by desinformation campaigns and don't get vaccinated in time, and about how that evil Assagne finally got arrested.
>They don't, they absolutely not.
Pretty sure they throw faggots from roofs in Chechnya or something, and our propaganda gives us an article every month about how Russians discriminate against fags (and we should hate them from it)
>I just separate people, nation and a state.
That is reasonable and I get where you are coming from, but compared to what western governments are pulling, yours is fairly decent.
>And are you forced to pay tax to feed the previous generation, with these money being lost forever and your retirement decided by bureaucrats instead. You pay a quarter of your wage because communists made the retirement a mandatory pyramid scheme that now falls apart, forcing the thieves to make it even more useless, with more than half of the people never hoping to get anything back from that.
Yes? Nigger, our pension system is utterly fucked and if you only pay a quarter of your wage in taxes, you're lucky. Older generation still makes do since their pension was set back when it still was something realistic, but if you don't save up for retirement now and rely on the government pension, you will die in poverty. That's not to mention the various additional taxes on goods and especially on alcohol and gas.
>I don't look at these nowadays but those that search usually find several huge ones every day, from forks 1000$ each to glocks for 30k$/ea.
Well we usually hear about how some project cost several billion more than it should and how it's badly done. Then the perpetrators go to court, the court takes 10+ years to decide (often longer than that. Not exagerrating in the slightest), will proclaim most of the perpetrators innocent, and will give the rest laughable sentences, usually less than you'd get from mugging someone and often letting them off with a warning.
>but it certainly can't be said about post-communist country
Being post-communist works in our favour now, as it makes us more resistant to the western kike
>memes are culture
THERE HAVE BEEN NO FUCKING MEMES MADE IN THIS FUCKING COUNTRY. No culture of any sort gets made here because it's either promoting globohomo (and thus not really being our culture). Any other attempts at making culture never survive because they get not exposure whatsoever. I've even been to the fucking national gallery, hoping I'd see SOMETHING there, and would you guess what the best things there were? Fucking socialist realism. Why? BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE WAS FUCKING POST-MODERN CANCER. Entire storeys full of nothing but post modern art and degeneracy.
Anyway, I'm heading to bed now, so I likely won't be able to respond to you if you reply.
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10825d No.666190
>>666189
Forgive me but your suffering makes me feel in good company.
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dc08c8 No.666193
>>666189
>Being mostly the same people has never stopped anyone from a good war
is this war a good one? it's more politics than anything.
>I think you're being too pessimist
Maybe, i've grown to not care enough to check.
>Pretty sure they throw faggots from roofs in Chechnya or something
https://www.znak.com/2017-03-08/timati_vylozhil_i_udalil_fotografiyu_iz_roskoshnogo_chastnogo_samoleta_vozmozhno_kadyrova
>our propaganda gives us an article every month about how Russians discriminate against fags (and we should hate them from it)
Ours says the same thing, yet both lie
>compared to what western governments are pulling, yours is fairly decent
I'm not a fan of choosing. Whataboutisms are THE method of Russian(and Soviet) propaganda, others are secondary.
>if you only pay a quarter of your wage in taxes
The quarter ONLY for the pension part. There also are several other taxes. There are also numerous examples where people change jobs(or work incomplete days) and it fucks up their statistics so they get minimal pension when they fed 2-3 people(presumably, they just steal it) with their taxed money their whole life.
>That's not to mention the various additional taxes on goods and especially on alcohol and gas.
Bitch please, we've got a tax on ANY deals. The only thing missing is the tax on taxes.
>Well we usually hear about how some project cost several billion more than it should and how it's badly done
That's good, what we have is when you get nothing or, like with roads, destroy something well made to remake it cheaper so it goes to shit even sooner but you "rebuilt it".
>Then the perpetrators go to court
Heh, at best it'll get cancelled with little talk, usually it's just ignored. The only case of taking things to the "court" would be when they supposedly backstabbed one politician and he got (((caught))) with a bag of money, though maybe he just wasn't important to defend, though its unlikely.
>it makes us more resistant to the western kike
These are a different kind of communists though.
>No culture of any sort gets made here
Well, my condolences then. At least you know English.
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2af468 No.666257
>>666189
>Just today, I got to read about how priests are rapists
This is something leftists really shouldn't do because in Eastern Europe most pedophile priests are sodomites belong to the LGBT community and were likely sent into priesthood by communists to extract confessions of crimes against socialism while also fighting "superstition and enemies of dialectical materialism"
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35961a No.666320
>Czech, Greek and Russian are arguing about whose country is in a shittier condition
Day by day, this board is becoming less about weapons and more about politics niggetry…
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cb8fff No.672994
Boys I need a rifle, preferably an AR as I'm trained on them. What's the best way to get a rifle I don't care if it's through a legal or illegal route.
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6eeb01 No.673014
>>672994
Join a local mosque.
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802e4f No.673049
>>672994
Get an 80% paperweight and drill it out.
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747603 No.673055
>>665961
You'd be surprised how effectively a nation can be dissolved with mental poisons like critical theory. It has the amazing effect of isolation people form your own history and culture by declaring it either wrong or not actually yours. This means the cultural space is open to a replacement because no one of the original stock have any understandings of who they are or where. Often the displacement and subsequent replacement is as you've said engineered and unfortunately were all under the thumb of mercantile elite now.
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715c13 No.673065
>>673049
>implying other countries have the same 80% laws as the US
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f2460a No.673069
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>>673065
>implying you even need to buy an 80%
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