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There's no discharge in the war!

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4734c1  No.654745

I have World of Guns Disassembly life time access. What are some good guns to observe the mechanics of recoil suppression? I've taken a look at the M82 but I'd like to see how handguns react to heavy recoil.

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a3b142  No.654753

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>>654745

> What are some good guns to observe the mechanics of recoil suppression?

FG-42

>handguns

You can add a muzzle device, make the grips very ergonomic, and lower the bore axis, but that's all. Handguns have to be small to be actual handguns, therefore they are very cramped inside, thus it's hard to come up with clever mechanical designs to reduce felt recoil. Their low mass doesn't help either, and they obviously lack the most basic device that helps you handlee recoil: a stock. From a purely theoretical standpoint your best bet is a revolver that has the barrel at the 6 o'clock position. Here's why:

<the grip doesn't have to accomodate a magazine, therefore you can go crazy there

<the barrel is fixed, so you can add any muzzle device that you want (as long as you mind the weight)

<the bore axis can be "negative", that is, lower than the top of the hand

<there are no mechanical parts that move on their own after firing, so you don't have to mind them

Of course you can try to make a self-loading pistol that has lower felt recoil, but you shouldn't design it with only that in mind. Otherwise you will end up with a new Hudson H9, and that's a fucking bad joke.


8cdb48  No.654761

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>kriss vector

though the recoil dampening mechanism is really unique and works best on automatic fire (look at a side by side fire with an UMP)

Muzzle breaks also reduce recoil, but what it comes down to is how the system is designed to manage recoil the best.

deflection or horizontal recoil is optimal, but you get rotational movement when the center of gravity/hold is not parallel with the bore. Hand guns with lower bore axis use this concept to make recoil more manageable.


3a22b3  No.654770

Modified Chauchat.


f17d19  No.654774

AN94 or the guns where slavs try to be germans.


6900fa  No.654780

>>654745

If you can, check gas delayed firearms. They all have excellent recoil mitigation properties.


6900fa  No.654781

>>654780

Oh, an there's also another weapon system that you probably won't have access to, but you can check out Baryshev weapon family. it is said that the rifle was almost as easy to control shooting 7.62x54r as AKM was, though i don't think any disassembly images or shooting footage can be found.


5b7761  No.654782

>>654753

>Handguns

Maybe rather than any changes to the handgun, a hand brace would be better. Is there a way to make a brace that can absorb some of the energy your wrist dispels without limiting range of motion too much? Hell, how much wrist work do you even need if you're in a situation where you're using your gun?


be2bf4  No.654791

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>>654745

Ultimax


814549  No.654795

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>654782

Or repeal the NFA and add a stock. Of course there are all those arm braces and blades and whatever else today, but they are a hassle to attach or detach, therefore they aren't ideal for concealed carry. Something autistic but fun like vid related would work better.




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