51d0b5 No.652375
I'm tired of the world, streloks.
Is there anyway we can modify a mid tier container ship into some sort of self sufficient mobile house on the sea?
Electricity come from oil of course, and we can trade fish for meat and other stuff.
566db7 No.652382
>Not having a nuclear reactor
69bdcf No.652383
>>652382
How long can a nuclear reactor run a ship without having to refuel it with nuclear matter? Sorry if the question sounds stupid, I'm not really an expert in matters of nuclear energy.
566db7 No.652385
663959 No.652387
/k/ container ship modification
877dcd No.652388
>>652383
Depends on the reactor. The new reactors for the Virginia block Vs are supposed to run ~44 years without refueling.
631f72 No.652391
>>652388
>>652383
>>652385
>nuclear
Lifespan estimates are for peak operating time. The reactors last far longer than that in a degraded state.
What nobody here has mentioned is "green" energy.
Being in the middle of the ocean nets you the perfect environment for wind, solar, and even thermal.
You could build a massive algae corral, use it to produce diesel and feed insects, which could then be used as meal for fertilizer and better protein sources.
There's even a massive collection of plastic that can be processed for fuel in the Pacific.
292d1d No.652394
>>652375
That remind me of a micro land named “Principality of Sealand” but unlike your idea. It is immobile permanently.
5bd48c No.652395
>>652375
I'd foster an interesting internal society and then become a mobile tourist destination. Moving from port to port, the arrival of my ship would be heralded weeks in advance.
Wait, no, I've got it. Floating circus. No one can tell me not to torture innocent elephants by making them play violin if I'm in international waters. The animal acts will draw the attention of the whale wars types and then I can sell tickets to aspiring killers as a kind of murder cruise. This way I don't have to pay for guards. When I pull into port for the biggest show on the seven seas I quietly clean up all the blood and take the more bloodthirsty passengers ashore under cover of darkness in smaller boats.
65fe07 No.652405
Is it still possible to make huge ass sails and make the ships move via wind power?
>>652387
It is a very interesting topic.
Container ships are basically giant steel slabs that are free to be customize.
Transport, mobile base, carrier, frigate, battleship, you name it.
868829 No.652406
Arej't all of our bodies countaires for our souls?
2c34e4 No.652407
ef6121 No.652414
>>652375
>Self sufficient
>Electricity comes from oil
Good goy, remember to keep those petroshekels coming as fast as you can! Oil is not a resource you can replace by yourself; this is a fantastic time for solar, wind, and hydroelectric generators.
65fe07 No.652433
>>652414
Is it possible to buy oil off off shore rigs?
ef6121 No.652447
>>652433
What's the cost of enough oil to run a container ship versus the maintenance cost of covering the deck in solar panels hooked up to a large enough battery to keep you running though the night?
644403 No.652454
Without a nuclear reactor it is impossible. Wind energy is a meme and you can't use the propeller to generate electricity either because it's not enough. And you can't cover the ships in solar panels either, because people need to work on the deck and most importantly containers need to be on the deck. Where else are you planning on adding enough panels?
eeabc7 No.652457
>>652375
If you don't maintain the cathodic protection system…..fuel will be the least of your worries.
Offshore rigs don't refine crude oil, so no you can't buy fuel oil (bunker fuel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_oil) from platforms.
Also, unless you have massive fresh water storage tanks the onboard freshwater distiller needs lots of maintenance.
If you're running boilers and don't maintain the water chemistry……boiler tube failure.
Seagoing vessels are require lots of ongoing maintenance.
37d1a4 No.652459
>>652454
You could use floating solar panels surrounding the ship as a power source.
644403 No.652469
>>652459
where are we going to store those panels when we don't need them / can't have them floating?
37d1a4 No.652482
>>652469
Retract them back into the ship via tow line.
7461a3 No.652485
>>652454
What about a matter-antimatter reactor?
44544e No.652487
>>652485
No point to, unless you pair it with a hyperlight warp drive, at which point you effectively transformed your container shit into high-tech interstellar vessel. Keep in mind that by using such reactor there's a serious risk of crashing energy and fuel prices too.
d34be3 No.652492
Just use a real ship. Only things you need is an orange tree, water distillers, fishing nets, harpoon gun and lots of soap.
7461a3 No.652494
>>652487
How hard would it be to convert a run of the mill container ship into an interplanetary pirate vessel?
Without the ability to land or take off from planets of course, though raiding bulk carrier drone ships heading back to their home O'Neill cylinder after a thorough mining session in the Mars-Jupiter asteroid belt is said to be quite profitable.
16e213 No.652506
>>652375
>self sufficient
not really, no. You need to get the energy to move somewhere, but even if you went with solar panels, you would need to replace those panels somehow after they broke. You could probably grow food under UV lamps below deck (can't do it top deck. Should a storm come and waves splash across it, your soil would get salted) and of course fish, but your equipment would wear down and you have no access to iron or a way to refine it. You have no way to make advanced medicine. Nobody is going to buy a shipload of fish from a ship that randomly sailed in - people who buy large quantities of fish already have their suppliers and if you wanted to be one as well, you would need to supply him regularly and essentially work a job.
44544e No.652528
>>652494
Depends wholly on the location of the drive/engive and your ability to manipulate it from inside. The whole process would require airlocks to be able to dock/get in/out but that's not a huge issue, the main thing would be the engines and thrusters, with maybe some problems designing features for pirate activity, though just tying your armored suits to the ship before assault would probably be sufficient, it could even improve the handling of your weapons unless you use turrets or remote control them.
Actual ships in space are the coolest thing ever tbh. We just need to go back a little further and use the classy wind-propelled wooden ones. Here's my related wallpaper dump.
0a2f4e No.652529
>>652528
>age of sail but in space
The Road Not Taken by Harry Turtledove is probably one of my favorite pieces of sci-fi to be honest.
644403 No.652531
>>652482
show me the interior of a loaded container ship and tell me where exactly are we going to store those huge solar panels
c99001 No.652535
>>652506
Is it possible to farm edible seaweeds and/or clams on the outer-hull ? That would fuck with the ship's handling but free salad is worth it.
644403 No.652539
>>652535
Nope. Though I fail to see how would this fuck with the ship's handling.
Also, all food on ship is "free". The cook prepares meals 3 times a day, and unless he hates his life, they're usually pretty good
149a97 No.652545
>>652539
>>652531
I think you lack vision, Cap. Soon all real estate will be owned and monopolized by the kikes. Self-sustained town-vessels and anti-(((piracy))) escorting Aegis fleets and retaliatory nuclear missile subs is the future of the goyim. Solar sails, next-gen fast neutron and thorium reactors, greenhouses, aquaculture and onboard deep sea mining equipment are the mere necessities for our last journey before the liberation of the globe.
44544e No.652547
>>652545
This and also seasteading as a means to escape your retarded authoritarian government and induce the eternal butthurt of gibless leftists.
149a97 No.652548
>>652485
Antimatter is good as a battery equivalent but it requires orders of magnitude more energy and money to produce than the amount it offers for practical use. Antimatter is essentially the antithesis of self-sustenance.
644403 No.652551
>>652545
>>652547
Sounds nice, but again, where do we put these fucking solar panels?
44544e No.652554
>>652551
How many do we actually need? Shouldn't a roof of a house worth of solar panels be enough for an economic living of at least one person? Then generator+rooftop SP+maybe wind turbine could be enough. If not, there also are foldable solar panels, they shouldn't take too much space and could just be hanging from the side of the vessel horizontally.
fc516a No.652572
>>652528
Sailing space ships are a actually thing.
>>652547
>seasteading
I wish Ace Combat 3 was real.
ef6121 No.652580
>>652547
Would it be more efficient to colonise an uninhabited island (there's still a few of them out there) protip, if the island has uncontacted tribes make absolutely sure you have to forces to reach 100% genocided before word gets out, or (for the hyper richfags) build a stationary platform in a relatively calm part of the sea.
8d2f00 No.652582
>>652580
Not really. Cargo ships are large enough. Just toss a few extra anchors on there, break their pull-up mechanisms and announce that you are now an island to every passer by.
e69d2f No.652585
>>652375
I present to you, the Freedom Ship:
http://freedomship.com/
5057ea No.652586
>>652580
Why not create a artificial island instead?
566db7 No.652587
>>652459
I hope you gas yourself.
5057ea No.652588
>>652585
The ship will be made in India. I rather it to be made by the great white builders.
5057ea No.652591
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>652582
It need the giant walls around them to protect them from the storms and invaders. Also form a mutual defence assistance amongst the cargo ships altogether. The video is a good example that we need soldiers to defend the cargo ships.
17699e No.652600
>>652545
>says jews will own everything
>posts spaceship yamato.jpg
Nippon steel will liberate us.
17699e No.652601
>>652588
>he thinks white men work at shipyards
anon, it's an understatement to say that white builders are no longer the majority.
you have a choice between, negros, nippons, and poos, take your pick.
11d5af No.652603
>>652395
>Not kidnapping schoolchildren and running a private battle royal from your ship in international waters.
ef6121 No.652609
>>652586
Because, with the exception of very shallow coastal waters, the cost of creating an artificial island (i.e. N^N tonnes of rock, where N = "holy fuck, how much?!") would have to eclipse the cost of a floating city. I'm aware that the cost of the floating city would generally be in the realm of 'arbitrarily high', but creating an artificial island out in the middle of the Atlantic would cost several times more than that.
>>652585
Do they sell anything other than t-shirts, messenger bags, panties, and other assorted merch? Because I couldn't see any way to actually buy one of their, alleged, ships.
>>652603
Surely if the Jap starts abducting schoolgirls he's less interested in Battle Royale and more into running his own personal harem anime?
11d5af No.652613
>>652609
tbf it was you that took schoogirls from school children.
16e213 No.652622
>>652551
more like where do you get fucking solar panels? Buy them? Then you need to actually have some manner of exports to get the money to buy them.
>>652554
>Shouldn't a roof of a house worth of solar panels be enough for an economic living of at least one person?
Usually more than one person lives in a single house. Also, all this green bulllshit is very unreliable. Germany's powergrid repeatedly neared total collapse due to long periods of clody weather with little wind, and only survived by them quickly reopening the mothballed coal power plants. And here you'd have a community with only those things? it could easily happen that you'd need to go a month without civilians having access to any electricity whatsoever, as it'd all go to run essential shit like hospitals.
644403 No.652630
>>652622
>has a container ship worth millions and money for fuel and supplies
>doesn't have money for solar panels
5057ea No.652636
>>652601
Obviously it’s Nippons and Whites.
566db7 No.652638
>>652630
>Solar panels being worth a shit ever
19a16e No.652640
What is the laws regarding these ships anyhow?
If you sail and live on international waters, does it make you immune to laws?
644403 No.652641
>>652601
In all western countries I only see whites, and in burger ports I rarely see niggers. It only gets bad in india, the workers steal shit from the ship. Chink workers to my surprise were competent too.
e19484 No.652644
>>652547
>gay fucking triangles
>not the superior hexagons
e1dcb9 No.652654
>>652433
Anon, oil has to be processed. Only like 5% of crude oil is already ready to be used in an engine. From a standard batch of oil, like 35-50% of it is tar.
e1dcb9 No.652655
>>652457
>Don't maintain cathodic protection
Dirt cheap/easy to do.
>Offshor rigs
Anon was a retard, but getting fuel oil off various coastal cities is easy enough.
>Fresh water distiller
There's a reason most large ships have a tech specifically designated to doing this. There's at least three electrical technicians on /k/ who've shown interest in joining a /k/olony in the past.
>If you're running boilers and don't maintain the water chemistry……boiler tube failure.
Boiler chemistry is fuck easy to maintain and fuck easier to maintain with a dedicated PLC. Raid one or two pirate vessels/sell the guns to some terrorists and we should have the $500 or so to install an old Allen-Bradley running RSLogix 500 and a few chemical/visual sensors for about $1,000. Better yet I we could rewire the water distillation and various other systems to it and automate the whole god damned thing with only one or two missing fingers if given a working laptop and a week to program it. Shit, I we could probably program an old 80s Mitsubishi robotic arm to do most of the basic manual shit for us as well.
e1dcb9 No.652656
>>652482
Solar panels are retarded and made of a handful of fragile glasses connected to corrosive/carcinogenic metals/minerals. Towing is a quick way to break them (assuming they'd float at all). They're a shit for a reason if you don't live in Arizona or some other state that sees sunshine for 98% of the year. The ocean is too cloudy to effectively use solar cells most of the time unless you're along the equator. Wind turbines would be far more useful, but then you've got to find room for the fucking massive transformer on board the ship that needs constant electrical oil refills/maintenance in order to not explode in a giant, oil-burning mess, and that maintenance will give that particular tech cancer before he's 40 because of how toxic the shit inside a wind turbine transformer/power regulation system is. Oil or coal is legitimately safer to use, and nuclear would be the best. If you have an oil or coal system, we could put an anabolic shit fermenter on the ship to handle human excrement, and siphon the methane produced during the shit fermentation to provide auxiliary power/natural gas for cooking (or just use it to heat a boiler for providing heat through the ship in colder climates).
e1dcb9 No.652657
>>652506
Putting a small iron refinery on a ship is child's play. Of course you can't manufacture medicine on a ship because that requires gaining access to patented chemical reactions, but a pharmacy is more than possible if we hired a pharmaceutical tech and kept him stocked with base pharmaceutical drugs bought from the Mexican or Colombian cartels.
e1dcb9 No.652659
>>652640
From what I understand of international law, you're beholden to the laws of whatever flag you fly on your ship, and failure to fly a flag is grounds for being blasted out of the water by any roving marauders military vessels you encounter.
Fortunately some North African countries and northern South American countries are open to letting people pay a yearly "tax" of only a couple thousand dollarydoos to fly their flags year-round and not give a fuck about the law.
566db7 No.652662
>>652656
A shit powered container ship is more realistic than a solar or wind powered ship. God damn.
4c3ff6 No.652687
>>652659
What about tax?
If you stay on ship 24/7, no tax?
43c771 No.652688
So at what point does the construction of the sea floor building start? Just use the boat as the gate of entry I guess.
4c3ff6 No.652691
>>652688
Isn't it better to just travel in a mobile fleet?
That ways CIAniggers would be harder to track and you can hide in the North/South poles or the Caribbean.
Nowadays this seems to be practical than simply going to the forest.
But the startup cost would require millions of dollar though.
6158a6 No.652702
>>652662
>methane power is more realistic than sail power
>in ships
nigger
>>652644
theres a slight problem with offshore platforms: you have to put them outside of the exclusive economic zone of other countries in the area, which leaves only a few spots open that are on or near decently popular trade routes, can support an offshore platform, and aren't already territorial waters. Some countries claim and (try to) defend waters out to the edge of the continental shelf, explicitly to prevent foreign offshore platforms popping up a few hundred miles away. I would look to the southwestern coast of mexico to put this first, its just outside the panama canal, decent-to-good access to american and asian markets, and oil can come from texas or venezuela through the canal. While its a bit out of the way, across the pacific from asia and the canal from america, its the best spot i can think because its on one of the busiest trade routes in the world, outside of territorial claims, and close to ports.
Also, if you have a static(not tethered) offshore platform, you can use it to generate tidal power. Basically, the high tide fills a large tank/pool that flows out and turns a generator at low tide. Very simple and reliable, but large footprint for power output, even compared to solar panels, however the size of tides varies by location and time of the month. In some places, tidal energy could power a large chunk of the platform. But you can only get tidal power if you're moored to the ground; it won't work for a floating structure.
I'm starting to think an offshore platform hotel could evolve into a country with its own laws. Any naval architects on /k/ want to get to work designing a modular hexagonal/square/triangular platform built to stick together? the main concern is medical evacuation; if tourists are there, it'll be bad if they get sick and the only way back to shore, let alone a hospital is a 2-3 day boat ride. This means an airstrip, and a minimum length of 2000'ft for landing small bussiness jets. Helicopters often dont have to range to do medevac to offshore platforms, and its a risk the oil producers are trying to mitigate by developing a civilian version of the Osprey, which is hilarious because the osprey is basically the most unsafe aircraft ever. Once you can connect 2-3 platforms for an airstrip, it should be simple to connect them in a box or ring to form a safe harbor in open ocean, a legitimate attraction for the many wealthy yachters constantly cruising the seas. You could have an elevator to the bottom of the structure so tourists can watch interesting ocean creatures glow in the dark or eat each other and shit. You could have a gun range at sea, shooting targets on bouys floated downwind. Fake beaches are obvious and easy, though keeping the sand around is not.
This could seriously work, if targeting the right group of wealthy yachters and charging ludicrous docking fees on ships for safe space in open ocean, but targeting tourism as your main source of income makes location even more important. As far as i know the most traveled yachting area in the world is the Caribbean, followed by the atlantic crossing from the Caribbean to the canary islands. If you wanted to make money through tourism(and tourism/tax haven alone), you would put it in the middle of the atlantic, about 23 degrees latitude.
After some checking on seafloor depth maps, and looking at seamount heights worldwide, this should be absolutely doable. In fact, i found a decent seamount to start work on: Kukenthal or MacGreggor seamounts. (35*23"31' x -51*55"50', https://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=5ae9e138a17842688b0b79283a4353f6 ) This depthmap says kukenthal is only 15 meters down, but these measurements are not very accurate. I found a different article that says its actually at 760m depth, well within offshore drilling capabilities these days. Most seamounts are covered with ocean life, but this one was cleared 10 years ago by bottom trawling nets, so no peta to worry about. major trade route between the us east coast and the med is around 100 kn miles south, easily close enough to justify a stopover for any cruise ships. (naval traffic map: http://map.openseamap.org/ ) As an independent nation/satellite to the US(lets face it, this would end up being someones satellite state), we would provide an airbase thats not invulnerable but much tougher than a carrier capable of fielding larger land-based craft like overloaded c-130s dead center in the middle of the north atlantic.
A city in the North Atlantic would actually be really great for the hemisphere the more i think of it, someone really needs to get on this
644403 No.652705
>>652702
Some modern merchant ships use LNG as fuel. It's mostly LNG carriers that use it, for obvious reasons. Contrary to what retarded paranoid hipsters on the land think, LNG is much safer than regular oil
c25184 No.652707
https://horizonship.com/ship/121m-general-cargo-ship-2004-tween-decker-japan-built-dwt-10976/
Hold me streloks, I think it's realistic that I buy a ship and become a captain for life.
Time to save up.
9047bc No.652719
But how are we going to eat cow meat in the middle of the ocean? What about testosterone? The way this is, I can only imagine a bunch of faggots fucking each other's ass while eating sushi. Also, what about toilet paper and soap? Are you CRAZY!?
292d1d No.652724
>>652719
Uh you can eat the guinea pigs. They are easy to handle. You can use the poos as fertilisers to sell it to people for their indoor vertical gardens. I am sure if the idea is meme into reality then indoor garden will be popular for the shippers.
fc516a No.652728
292d1d No.652731
>>652719
>The way this is, I can only imagine a bunch of faggots fucking each other's ass while eating sushi.
Of course they can get the women from somewhere. Use your brain, anon.
Also, what about toilet paper and soap? Are you CRAZY!?
>Common mullein
Use the leaves soaked with alcohol to wipe your private area.
>Homemade hand sanitiser gel
- Aloe Vera Gel
- Alcohol
- Melaleuca Essential Oil
- Lavender Essential Oil
- Vitamin E Oil
- Pump Bottle
292d1d No.652733
>>652728
I don’t know but I hope someone are already working on the ideas. I like this thread but personally I like the space colonisation even more though.
292d1d No.652734
>>652707
Do you know to drive a ship? I can’t drive a ship.
fc516a No.652746
>>652731
>toilet paper
>soap
Get with the times Anon.
292d1d No.652748
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Tow the barges to the shallowest ocean and build on whatever we want.
428bc7 No.652749
>>652719
> Also, what about toilet paper
>not having bidets
lmao, what a monkey.
81b768 No.652750
>>652749
Yes, spray that sea water in your asshole.
292d1d No.652751
>>652750
That’s easy to solve! Sea water can be made into pure water (please do not attempt to drink this at your home unless it is emergency).
9bb6d0 No.652752
>>652749
>bidets
Can we ban all continentals please?
292d1d No.652754
fc516a No.652755
>>652749
>bidet
>not genetically engineered symbiotic arse-cleaning lamprey eels
292d1d No.652757
>>652755
That’s evil because you are committing a unnatural crime against Mother Nature, anon. There’s a place for you. The Vernon C. Bain Center!
292d1d No.652760
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Anyway let’s get back on the topic. Have a watch at the video link I embedded in.
fc516a No.652761
>>652757
What's wrong with genetic engineering?
>>652751
Anons on here should have a higher Salt tolerance than most people.
292d1d No.652762
>>652761
Because it will get jeweed by the jews so probably best to wait until it is fully solved.
>>652761
You can solve that naturally by forcing everyone to drink until you found the natural superhuman with salt tolerance. Isn’t this how the white people evolved to drink the animal milk?
660fc9 No.652763
>>652749
Sorry, m8.
Not all of us like stuff going up our ass.
632da6 No.652764
>>652763
You don't put a bidet in your ass you stupid mutt
292d1d No.652766
>>652764
I don’t think he know what the bidet is.
292d1d No.652767
This is getting ridiculous. We should be talking about the barrack ship, not the toilet stuffs.
cbcded No.652771
>>652767
You shit everyday of your life from beginning to end. It's very important
fc516a No.652772
>>652762
>You can solve that naturally by forcing everyone to drink until you found the natural superhuman with salt tolerance.
That takes ages tho, and just breeding with a superhuman partner won't necessarily guarantee 100% salt-tolerant children if it's a recessive trait.
CRISPR/Cas germline mods on the other hand do.
>>652771
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3daf78 No.652774
>>652767
Can I bring my fleshlight, though?
292d1d No.652777
>>652774
I didn’t know what the fleshlight until I found out recently. Just get your lady and have kids on the giant boats. If I am the lord of my boat then I will ban degenerate stuffs.
292d1d No.652778
>>652772
You don’t want the Jews to engineer our children and grandchildren DNA to be slaves to the Jews.
292d1d No.652779
>>652771
I am well aware of that but there are already solutions for our private areas. There’s no excuse for you to be shitty.
cbcded No.652780
>>652779
I'm just worried, mate. What are these problems you talk about? Just tell me and I'll get you a brazillian solution. Trust me, I'm 100% white
292d1d No.652781
>>652780
You don’t have a solution for the space colonisation in our lifetime so I will never be a colonist and have a large proud white family. Depressing. ;_;
cbcded No.652783
>>652781
The only problem is that we don't have the planet to colonise yet. Try living the longest you can. If you can transfer your conscience or cool your body for a long time you may still experience space. As far as I know, with the future advancements in technology and science, we will be able to outlive blackholes owing space
292d1d No.652784
>>652783
You succeeded in making me angry.
fc516a No.652791
>>652783
>not building your own space habitat
>not using said habitat to fly around and seed other planets
292d1d No.652793
We cannot suppress our colonising instinct. Colonise that, this, there, here and everywhere.
292d1d No.652794
I am going to bed because this is too depressing to talk so have a g’nite mates.
11d5af No.652798
>>652654
Don't container ships run on a very near crude like substance?
fdb243 No.652801
>>652719
You're supposed to have a supply of food ready for the ship, when the ration is nearing it's end you go to port to collect more food. And if refrigeration is of your concern you just salt the meat (salt pork).
fdb243 No.652803
The pirates already had this figured out a long time ago, only thing we should do different is practice better hygiene, include vitamin c on our diet and have women on board (they thought women brought bad luck).
3aeb22 No.652816
>>652803
Women do bring bad luck when one of them wraps some autists around her little finger or gets pregnant and there's multiple possible fathers. Also pirates didn't have to deal with air vehicles/subs constantly tracking them.
ef6121 No.652830
>>652613
>I want to abduct a carefully chosen schoolgirls, specifically picked for their intelligence, traditional values, capacity for loyalty, submissive tendencies, fertility indicators, virginity, and beauty.
>I want to take this group to a prebuilt indoctrination/living/training facility on a secluded and secure jungle paradise
>I want to spend ~20 years with this harem breeding an army to go all Genghis Khan when society inevitably crumbles
>Somehow this makes ME the weirdo/pervert
I don't get it.
6158a6 No.652835
>>652705
>nat gas is somehow cheaper than the wind
i never understood this tbh. If it doesn't matter when the cargo shows up, why not sail it there? Ships literally spend millions to refuel. There has to be an economic use for sailing ships somewhere.
>>652716
the potential of 40ft waves in open ocean makes seaplanes an unreliable method of emergency transport. Currently, though, its the only option many of the further out platforms have.
>>652728
hopefully someone realizes the money to be made
a1d10a No.652837
>>652830
Why do you say society will crumb? What is basing this idea that seems so concrete for all of /k/ users? I want a concise argument, please
6158a6 No.652838
>>652837
>please explain to me in one paragraph the geopolitical events and socioeconomic trends that are leading the world to the brink of ruin
482eab No.652839
777fc3 No.652840
>>652837
Read The Decline of the West from Spengler and Imperium for Yockey. The tl;dr is that money won over blood in ww2, and now blood will take its revenge, either within the Western civilization, or outside of it. In other words, we either switch to extreme nationalism and fascism, or all of Europe and North America will look like Brazil. To make that switch we need to collapse the current order; and if we don't do that then it will crumble on its own once there are only mulattoes who can't run this civilization. A good example for the later is India: roughly 2000 years ago it was the home of the highly advanced civilization of the Aryans, but due to interbreeding with the lower castes (the conquered original inhabitants of that subcontinent) they became the streetshitters of today.
0a2f4e No.652843
>>652837
The United States is just a giant Yugoslavia It's waiting for the spark that will Balkanize it. Once The US goes, like it or not 90% of the world is going to feel it hard.
e1dcb9 No.652856
>>652843
I'd compare it more to Rome with DC/New York at the center of it all. If you look at any national organization, there's a clear divide between how the people close to DC/New York are treated vs those further out. Highway 65 is basically the dividing line between the "old" USA and the vassal states. Everyone past there starts to feel more and more disconnected from their image as an American, and by the time you reach Highway 35, most of us west of that dividing line identify more/almost entirely with our state rather than with America as a whole. Commiefornia is basically a foreign power riding on the success/taxes/military defense provided by Rome the federal government at this point.
ef6121 No.652857
>>652837
Part of it is that it's a fun idea, and an interesting source of discussions. A lot of it comes from looking at the political, economic, diplomatic, sociological, cultural, and military developments in the world today. It looks more and more like we're heading for a 'fall of Rome' style civilisation collapse every week.
428bc7 No.652859
>>652837
>What is basing this idea that seems so concrete for all of /k/ users
a fuck-up will lead to a shortage in supply of bread and circuses, or whites will become extinct and everywhere will be like India.
>>652843
>The United States is just a giant Yugoslavia
But US isn't attempting to create an Economic union that'd ensure co-operation between sovereign nations, one that doesn't answer to either Russia or Judaized puppeted corpse of what was formerly known as Germany.
Yugoslavia break-up was meant to stop the Heksagonale, aka the Central European Initiative.
"Balkanization" is the term for an outside force funding the efforts to break it up.
5057ea No.652860
>>652843
>90% of the world is going to feel it hard.
I rather to face the hardship than to face the extinction of my race. We shared the gifts with them and ended up using to kill us.
4ebd1a No.652913
>>652835
Sails take up lots of valuable tonnage and deck space, have extremely high maintenance and crew requirements that largely offset any fuel savings, and most importantly of all are wildly unpredictable. Some industries will tolerate very slow shipments, but very few of them will tolerate shipments that routinely arrive several days behind or ahead of schedule.
aa3175 No.652942
>>652913
>extremely high maintenance and crew requirements
The first reduced with modern materials, the second by not being pigheaded and using square-rigging likt it was still 1790.
9a9087 No.652947
>>652837
Whites being the second smallest racial group at 600m and soon to be dropping under beaners' half billion.
aa3175 No.652949
>>652947
> second smallest
Who's the smallest?
9a9087 No.652951
>>652949
Among major the 5 major "racial" groups ?
Redskins and their beaner offspring.
Among racial groups as valid phylogenetic clades? Many of them. Abos, Khoisan, various Oceanian and Austronesian subraces and numerous central and west African ethnicities.
e1dcb9 No.652952
>>652835
If you want to build a sailboat and be restricted to a very small set of trade routes based on the wind, then by all means anon, follow the major trade routes used by world militaries and various other organizations that have no qualms with fucking your shit up. I want the ability to actually travel by sea.
361ee0 No.652961
>>652391
are you retarded?
361ee0 No.652962
>>652405
Not at all. Even if you could build a sail big enough for a massive steel titan of a boat, you need a keel.
If you ever sail a small boat with a centerboard (which is basically a keel) and lift it out of the water, your boat will simply go with the wind. Unable to turn.
38fc11 No.652963
>>652962
What if you do both? Sail & oil motor?