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There's no discharge in the war!

File: 05cee829d3d754f⋯.jpg (28.4 KB, 480x354, 80:59, 1534296846256.jpg)

38256f  No.627591

With the bumpstock ban looming we are once again having our rights trampled upon with very little in the way of fighting back. Our enemies grow more bold and the most resistance we put up is an occasional phone call to a representative (if that) People that are supposedly on our side are obviously not. It's just us. Since no one actually wants to go dome politicians how should we fight back peacefully? We might as well start organizing something instead of just doing nothing. I think that there are several main points we should focus on

Mentally

-Combating the narrative that the media pushes (2A is antiquated, you don't need assault guns ect.)

-Combating the individuals that push said narrative i.e twitter "personalities", "comedians", celebrities, ect.

-Working to shift the issue to a bipartisan one instead of one that's "right wing"

-General information outreach to normies (90% of people I talk to think there is a law that rifles need to be registered nationally)

Physically

-Flooding the population with material so that it becomes impossible to regulate (defcad 2.0, black pipe shotgun flyers, ect.)

-Taking new people shooting (with an emphasis on demographics that are known to be antigun)

-Denying resources to companies that virtue signal (boycotts)

Spiritually

-Spreading the word on the human right to self defense and resistance to tyranny

Most importantly we need to get organized.

What do you guys think? How would we go about doing any of these? Do you have any better ideas?

38256f  No.627633

anyone?


e04358  No.627634

Clog up their loos

When sewage runs through their streets and homes they will cave in to demands


38256f  No.627637


0d5f99  No.627643

>>627591

>-Working to shift the issue to a bipartisan one instead of one that's "right wing"

How are you planning to do that? The enemy is driving the narrative that the 2nd amendment was written so that We, the People could have government permission to use black powder muskets to go hunting. That is to say, they contest whether we even have the right to possess bolt action rifles, and you want to shift the Overton Window to the point where we can find common ground on range toy mag dump accessories?

At least you don't dream small.


3e5511  No.627647

>>627634

Very wise words, truly people like you will lead India to become a great power in less than 14 months.


8fa29f  No.627650

By peaceful resistance, do you mean resistance where we defeat the enemies of the people so badly that they will never rise again, and will essentially be peaceful and leave us the fuck alone? If you do, then I approve.

But in all honesty, there isn't going to be a successful way to avoid the simple fact that it will take violence to defeat the entrenched forces who oppose the people's freedoms.


68821d  No.627652

>> -Flooding the population with material so that it becomes impossible to regulate

You mean like the 400 million+ guns already in circulation?


38256f  No.627655

>>627643

>For fags: armed gays don't get bashed, pink guns, ect

>For niggers: malcolm x, black panthers, john brown, ect

>For lefties: evil republicans won't be able to round you up and send you to concentration camps

They are brainwashed to immediately think "gun bad" but I think if we can break the mold more and more will start to see what we're saying. And ultimately they are the people that need to be convinced for us to see dems back off gun control.

>>627650

Thats the hope. If they no longer hold sway our problems are solved and we just have to remain vigilant.

Until an armed insurrection starts this is our best option.

>>627652

Yes, but more obvious. The liberator was just a political statement, but it made it's point extremely well. That's what I was mainly referring to but if you have any ideas on increasing gun ownership in general i'm all ears


8894e6  No.627674

File: a803b3a10f8dfc8⋯.jpg (83.39 KB, 600x484, 150:121, This is what the other sid….jpg)

File: 3df68f451755213⋯.jpeg (202.94 KB, 640x456, 80:57, This is what the other si….jpeg)

File: 4d78b763d4b5b83⋯.jpg (46.73 KB, 472x368, 59:46, This is what the other sid….jpg)

File: a0be056e9883976⋯.jpg (72.68 KB, 474x474, 1:1, This is what the other sid….jpg)

>>627655

The problem you seem to be having there OP is that you're assuming that the opposition are simply in possession of a different opinion. They're not interested in finding common ground, or even meeting you half way. That's before we account for the assumed moral hegemony that's becoming more and more explicit in their thinking. The thought process of the average anti-liberty advocate on this topic is surprisingly straightforwards.

>Guns are bad and evil.

>I know this is true because all the good people told me that it was true.

>Therefore this matter is settled and I am right yet again.

>Anyone attempting to challenge this view marks themselves as someone who is outside of the good people.

>They threaten the cosy, fuzzy, feels I get from congratulating myself for being so righteous.

>Pro-gun rights people who honestly believe what they say are sub-human retards, therefore their opinion does not matter.

>They also say it because they want to hurt me (remember that the good people told me that words are violence! [except when I do it of course])

>Therefore guns are evil, people who like guns are evil and malevolent and inferior, and they must be fought on every field come what may, and I am a good person for thinking and doing this.

Pay particular attention to pic 1, these people think that the bump stock ban is unacceptable because it didn't go far enough. They think that this is you guys winning. If you want to win this then a better option to take would be to discourage them from pushing their crap as freely as they do now. They're generally speaking immature and emotionally fragile so the best way to get them to stop is to attack them emotionally, don't play the defensive game of answering their points, make them defend their righteousness. That's the most important part of this to them, and it's the easiest to attack because it exists only in their minds.You'll need a sustained meme-war style campaign, in public as much as online, to get that done. If you can't then just take a look at us over here, this is what they want for you.


273c9e  No.627677

File: e74e6ba1538ecb3⋯.png (153.54 KB, 500x727, 500:727, california.png)

>>627674

Political comics are the worst, intellectually they're on the same level as pic related, but nowhere near as funny.


273c9e  No.627678

>>627677

By the way that image is a reference to Ace Attorney, before anybody thinks it's serious.


f349d0  No.627681

>>627678

>spoiler

Thanks for clarifying that, I didn't know if it was actually California and was about to look it up.


38cfa8  No.627683

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>627677

The only good political cartoonist is Stan Kelly, and he doesn't even realize his own genius.


0d5f99  No.627684

>>627681

>>627678

>I didn't know if it was actually California and was about to look it up.

So was I. California is basically "the Poe's Law state" anymore.


cea36d  No.627685

Until the societal issues we are facing are fixed (they won't be) there is no peaceful solution. The rampant feminization of men, starting when they are very young, and the destruction of positive male role models/fathers have done far more damage than any CIA mind control efforts and, not saying all are real but even if they aren't, more shootings will follow. Until mass shootings stop, the debate will rage on and each one will turn weak minded people against guns instead of making any of them stop and wonder if there is a larger cause. Attacking firearms for the problems they have created is an easy out, and they double down on the true cause every day.


f01cbe  No.627686

>>627678

>>627681

I'm an American and even I wasn't sure if that was real or not, California is just that fucked.


36fa08  No.627690

>>627674

How would a guy in a straitjacket that's strapped to a gurney commit a mass shooting? Furthermore I don't think Hannibal Lecter ever shot anyone. He was more of a knife sort of guy.


5fb87f  No.627691

How about not handing in the bumpstocks and when police arrives, livestream the event?

Liberals and commies have no problem doing illegal shit.


8894e6  No.627693

File: 3389ed628dcef9d⋯.jpg (49.91 KB, 450x362, 225:181, Well, there's your problem….jpg)

>>627690

>Expecting cultists to make sense


d4cbc4  No.627740

I asked for an Echo II trigger for Christmas, am I gonna be fucked now?


e0f948  No.627745

>-Combating the narrative that the media pushes (2A is antiquated, you don't need assault guns ect.)

Good

>-Combating the individuals that push said narrative i.e twitter "personalities", "comedians", celebrities, ect.

I personally think we need to engage them less. Responding to these morons only brings them more attention. I prefer grassroots discussions with those around you, or nearer social media people.

>-Working to shift the issue to a bipartisan one instead of one that's "right wing"

The dichotomy is just a reflection of where our culture is right now, it's not endemic to the issue itself. Party affiliation is irrelevant to the issue and should be avoided. Stick to the facts, which are already bipartisan, and you will accomplish this incidentally.

>-General information outreach to normies (90% of people I talk to think there is a law that rifles need to be registered nationally)

It can be hard to do this effectively, because again, it's a culture and value issue more than a facts issue. As misinformed as gun grabbers are, they're like Trump; the facts of what they say doesn't really matter to them in the argument. Informing people that there is no national registry law might just make people more scared.

>-Flooding the population with material so that it becomes impossible to regulate (defcad 2.0, black pipe shotgun flyers, ect.)

Not a bad idea on paper, but might just motivate grabbers to clamp down on more things.

>-Taking new people shooting (with an emphasis on demographics that are known to be antigun)

Far and away the best suggestion you've made.

>-Denying resources to companies that virtue signal (boycotts)

Ok

>-Spreading the word on the human right to self defense and resistance to tyranny

Also a good suggestion to help prevent grabbers from strawmanning

>Most importantly we need to get organized.

2nd best suggestion. Especially on here, I think we need to stop shitting on each other with "hurr durr Americans won't actually do anything" posts and figure out how were going to help each other, because I doubt GOA or NRA will really do much for me if I get red flagged. But maybe a local /k/ would be willing to show up at my house and back me up for a siege. I would.


d48bac  No.627746

>>627740

You were already fucked if you think paying $400 for a meme trigger is a good investment.


d4cbc4  No.627748

>>627746

Well it's on sale for $300 and I'm not the one paying.

P.S. your opinion is garbage and if get that upset about people spending $400 on a toy you should probably get a better job.


0d5f99  No.627817

>>627748

>Well it's on sale for $300 and I'm not the one paying.

Probably a good idea not to be the one paying, unless you have a goal to be an example of resistance (be it peaceful or otherwise).

Expect the ATF to subpoena the sales records from all manufacturers as soon as the "We swear this isn't an ex post facto law, because reasons and pilpul legal arguments!" regulation takes effect. Manufacturers and distributors aren't going to die for your privacy & liberty, strelok.


38256f  No.627849

>>627674

Some people can still be convinced. Not a lot, but a few.

As far as the meme war goes could you elaborate a little? You mean make them realize their righteousness is false by exposing their hypocrisy? Show them that they are what they are advocating against?

>>627685

>there is no peaceful solution

Until war comes this is our only solution.

>>627691

Police aren't going to come. It's just going to be a law and people might get it tacked on with other charges if they get caught with one for some unrelated thing. It's mainly to stop the manufacture

>>627745

Thanks for the input. Organization is extremely important, for what you said and just for organizing letters to reps and marches and things like that. Establishing good communication would be the first step I think. Any ideas? Seems to me like there are alot of willing bodies but they just have no real leadership or way to come together with others in a meaningful way.


15ac91  No.628044

File: 0f4ed6a1edbdd04⋯.png (657.93 KB, 1155x1020, 77:68, Why The Gun is Civilizatio….png)

File: ce6fcd2b8a5115b⋯.jpg (106.42 KB, 500x628, 125:157, 1520018694078.jpg)

File: db81eb773853c1e⋯.png (985.63 KB, 800x600, 4:3, troof.png)

>>627591

>Since no one actually wants to go dome politicians how should we fight back peacefully?

Carry openly. If questioned, cite the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution and go on about your day. If threatened, respond appropriately.


8894e6  No.628148

>>627849

>You mean make them realize their righteousness is false by exposing their hypocrisy?

You probably won't get them to realise that their sense of righteousness is false. These people will tell you that 1+1=48 and believe it if their social group tells them that's the truth. It's not about winning the argument, it's a campaign of emotional warfare. Study how their memes work, we all know they can't meme so don't just copy them but look at the lack of reasoned argument, the lack of the facts, the over-reliance on how it makes them feel and their assumed correctness. It's not about persuading them that they're wrong the way you would persuade a rational person, it's about training them to associate their own position with 'badfeel', they'll drop the issue like a red hot live grenade the moment it doesn't make them feel righteous and noble anymore. Use things like the victims of mass shootings in gun-free-zones, but put the emphasis on grizzly flesh wounds and blown apart skulls, show pictures of shooting victims who were left with permanent injuries/were crippled for life - bonus points if it's a sympathetic looking black/brown child in a wheelchair. Keep the message simple, variations on 'guns could have saved them', 'I'd still be walking if my dad could have shot the gunman', 'I wouldn't be a rape victim if I had been carrying a pistol' for example. That should be a good starting point, once you've got that up and running it should develop naturally in response to the results and changing environment.

Try to stay clear of Pepe's and other 'le ebin alt huwite maymays', they're going to call you evil racists anyway - and while that is gradually losing its sting due to overuse you should be working hard to make sure that it looks even more retarded than usual.


3f1cb7  No.628190

>>627677

>>627678

Is it really fake considering infecting people with HIV is not a felony in DPRC?


38256f  No.628493

File: de4751561f8c0e0⋯.jpg (592.13 KB, 1600x1285, 320:257, NOGUNS - Copy.jpg)

>>628148

Thoughts?


e79fb1  No.628494

>>628493

Take a hike niggerlover


38256f  No.628496

>>628494

I will consider that in future renditions


3b389c  No.628503

File: 10b92358adb5222⋯.png (841.07 KB, 600x800, 3:4, invasion of the nazi frog….png)

>>628148

>smug anime girls and cartoon frogs are unironically considered White supremacy symbols by mainstream media

>there are actual normalfags IRL recognizing and dreading shitpost-references as Hitler's second coming

>this is the real world

Sometimes I wonder if [CURRENT YEAR] situation is just a collective prank from the West to see how gullible we non-1st worlders are.


3b389c  No.628511

File: 4a89d28d3eb35ed⋯.png (77.1 KB, 950x425, 38:17, twitter_incel_ausperger_sh….png)

>>628503

And almost forgot:

>being a virgin means you are a suspect for terrorism


8e8b58  No.628531

>>628494

>Take a hike niggerlover

Another /pol/faggot that only defends the second amendment for whites. You're part of the problem. Guns belong to everyone. If fucking gorillas start proving their self-awareness in sign language tomorrow morning I want them to be handed class 4 munitions. I hate to use this old argument but 'next they came for me' is legitimate and it stands that everyone should be defended, you coward, who might say that your race is superior but doesn't have the balls to fight a 'monkey with a hi-point' Surely you're a better shot meister ubermensch? 'Take a hike' off a damn cliff and god bless America and her people, not just the white ones.


8894e6  No.628536

>>628503

>I wonder if [CURRENT YEAR] situation is just a collective prank from the West to see how gullible we non-1st worlders are.

I think it's more likely that God got bored after the fall of the Soviet Union. He's obviously a /k/ommando (if you read through the scripture and our history), and must have loved WW1 & 2; we kept him on the edge of his seat with Afghanistan, Vietnam, and the Bush Wars - but when the USSR capitulated peacefully he realised he wasn't going to get another proper war, and we've been blue-balling him on that since '45. Well, if we're not going to entertain his inner /k/ommando then we've nobody to blame but ourselves if he decides to indulge his inner /b/tard instead.


8894e6  No.628537

>>628493

Perfect. You hit them right in the feels because they cannot argue against that without (in their own minds at least) coming out as 'pro-lynching'. That's exactly the direction you need to go, all that's left now are a few hundred/thousand more along that line and a delivery method.


95c561  No.628540

Unless you kill any one who wants to take away your gun rights and make it clear every person who tries will die you will never win. They hold every card and you're begging them not to do what they want to do to you.

They hate you and want you dead. Your response is to find more ways to be passive and play a game you have been losing since before you were born. How is this going to make you win?


580df6  No.628546

File: 3b0315268bfca3d⋯.jpg (46.25 KB, 719x694, 719:694, 46511199_1087882058059357_….jpg)

>>628044

This is honestly the better answer.

Open carry, normalize it in places where it might not be normalized.

NORMALIZE OPEN CARRY

Now I realize I a faggot because I don't believe in open carry as a rule (ccw ftw) but this is honestly one of the better answers. Be rational, calm, reasonable, good representatives of the firearms world.

Disconnect the "radical gun guy" from reality.


5977bf  No.628616

>>627591

Guns are gonna be banned for ordinary people. You need to start organizing militias and fight for gun rights as privilege for privileged people (members). And BTW rights don't exists only privileges.


e05b17  No.628617

File: 78eead8b0febb2a⋯.png (804.58 KB, 477x724, 477:724, 000%.png)

>>628536

>he realised he wasn't going to get another proper war, and we've been blue-balling him on that since '45

I would gladly give God a genocide so great, I could stack corpses high enough that I would ultimately reach the heavens and knock on his door.

Problem is, I'm not a politician and Greece isn't a superpower capable of global-scale genocide. I wouldn't mind being remembered in history as the world's most utterly horrible, disgusting and murderous war criminal. I daydream about impaling hundreds of thousands of Turkish soldiers, women and children outside of Constantinople every day.


000000  No.628628

Supporting 2A is easy: Just open carry as much as possible, and always argue SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED whenever the subject comes out. 90% of the population are lemmings, they have no independent thinking ability, they simply take the most left and most right positions and support whatever is in the middle as a "reasonable compromise". Ergo the more gun-nut you are, the more pro gun the public will be. It's a question of who blinks first, the small minority of gun grabber activists or 2A supporters.

NPCs are weak, they always choose the path of least resistance so they can get back to their bread and circus. It's just a question of who blinks first. All you have to do is be harder to reason with than leftists.


7973d2  No.628632

>>628617

>Greece isn't a superpower capable of global-scale genocide

I patiently await the day troops in Hellenic warriors in futuristic power armor clad in resplendent robes descend from the skies and burn alive the entirety of the Turkish people.


9b1ea5  No.628634

File: 2d526538d1c081e⋯.jpg (199.12 KB, 1280x604, 320:151, Assassination of Erdogan.jpg)

File: 30da037c2856f57⋯.jpg (179.54 KB, 726x1009, 726:1009, Defense of Komotini.jpg)

File: a1682c764ad18e0⋯.jpg (591.9 KB, 847x900, 847:900, Hoplite Killing Turkish Ch….jpg)

>>628632

Once the roach has been defeated, Hellenic civilization will once again stretch from the Cyrene to Bactra.


8e8b58  No.628647

>>628539

>cuckservative

Nah you just don't have to be fucking racist to like guns man. I'm more into confederacy than anything, federal laws and centralized government are the enemy, as no one man's promised land is the same as the next. I just don't think the niggers should be disarmed because I'm not a fucking tyrant.


d3d345  No.628654

>>628634

>Hoplite

>fighting with broken longsword

You got a pretty good taste though. Hail the Emperor!


8894e6  No.628659

File: aeb9a08f06ee5c3⋯.jpg (81.53 KB, 498x644, 249:322, Varangian Guard.jpg)

>>628632

Don't tell me you wouldn't sign up for that campaign.


ded698  No.628663

Reporters and politicians like to talk shit until they get hit in the gabber.


38256f  No.628688

>>628537

How am I supposed to get people to see this?

I'm not exactly a twitter "influencer"

BTW guys, this is our last chance to get reciprocity so you need to contact your reps


8894e6  No.628828

>>628688

You get more people to post them, you put them up online (expect them to be torn down and to face hysterical rage if you're seen doing so). Political marketing like this is basically just the science of forced memes - think about it that way, get as many proguns as you can to boost the signal and you'll see it start to filter through to the mainstream. If you're looking for more opportunities to push this you're going to need to go primarily offline.

http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=A4EB6C0565DFFC2AC9BCEC564AE602EF

A decent primer if that's the way you plan to go.


8894e6  No.628845

>>628828

>you put them up online

>you put them up in RL

OK, I need to go outside for a while.


b20424  No.628847

File: 54ffd742e805c15⋯.jpg (70.34 KB, 673x505, 673:505, JPEG_20180501_071311.jpg)

>>627745

>>627849

I am in touch with a lot of kommandos from all over the states via our favorite honeypot. KommandoBlog is a good source of info as well. The old zeemaps has been brought back online as well


b20424  No.628848

>>628847

Organization is going on as we speak. It would be nice to have you on board.


ed4ebc  No.628877

>>628847

>honeypot

Nice try, fed. Everyone knows people here don't associate with each other.

Reminder for everyone that your "friends" here will shoot you in the back for fun or supplies during SHTF. That's if they weren't feds trying to entrap you in the first place.


d1038b  No.628944

>>627591

I never expected a mexican meme here.


47e630  No.629016

File: 45aedc152f438da⋯.jpg (2.66 MB, 4032x3024, 4:3, IMG_01871.JPG)

>>628877

I respect those dubs, but you are wrong. There's fuckery that goes on there, but we make sure that everything stays above board so feds wont have shit. There are servers for the majority of states and nuggetfest itself, even one I put together for all the admins from the servers. It's still like herding cats, but it's a decent enough communication network. We are expecting a larger than normal turnout to MWNF in april


e17a3f  No.629032

File: dd7d72a6acef556⋯.jpg (167.74 KB, 640x456, 80:57, gunshowloophole.jpg)


8894e6  No.629047

>>629032

>implying those responsible for the pic had the faintest idea how your gun laws work

>Implying that their intention was to accurately represent anything

Remember that a reasonably chunk of your countrymen believe that the original version is what actually happens.


db605a  No.629063

>>628647

>I just don't think the niggers should be disarmed

I agree, they should be deported instead.


15ac91  No.629212

>>628539

Says the fucking gook.


3f1cb7  No.629213

>>628647

Niggers shouldn't even be in america.

kill yourself civcuck.


15ac91  No.629224

>>629213

Neither should polacks, but then who would be the butt of every joke?


7ed2c3  No.629228

>>629224

At least polacks are white, unlike you.


2013dd  No.629231

>>627634

Are you truly India or are you taking the piss out of the poo


15ac91  No.629232

>>629228

Not according to the DOJ. According to them, I'm as white as a snow angel. I also probably have more guns than you.


5eb3e2  No.629236

>>629232

Oh, you're the kike that posts here. You are still not white.


15ac91  No.629241

>>629236

>boogeyman syndrome

I post everywhere, because I'm not a caricature of a person like /pol/yps are.

>You are still not white

Good for me. I'm still American, I still have more guns than you do, and I'm still eagerly awaiting you authoritarian faggots on both ends of the retard spectrum to enact your Day of the Rope/Bash the Fash so I can show you what the men who built this country wanted you to be afraid of.


3f1cb7  No.629247

>>629241

>so I can show you what the men who built this country wanted you to be afraid of.

LARP-ing on the internet isn't what founding fathers intended, keep trying.


617241  No.629255

>>629247

LARPing is all 56% jewmutt faggots can do, lol


38256f  No.629458

I sent that pic to colin noir. He hasn't replied yet


0d1523  No.629840

You're a cuck. Peaceful resistance is for cucks. You won't be violent either because of muh PEE ARR.

The US is dead and there's no point trying to save it. Say bye bye to your rights and hello to your new slavery. You may as well kill yourself early while death cab still save you.


67e8d1  No.629848

>>629840

>le blackpill

Don't be such a cum-guzzling retard. Violence has its place, but suggesting that it's the correct tool for every job and situation is like saying that the US doesn't need a military because you can just nuke anything that threatens you.

>You may as well kill yourself early while death cab still save you.

Take your own advice.


336b72  No.629850

>>629848

Blackpills are the most reasonable things to take.

Everything is hopelessly fucked. Besides, if I kill myself, who would pass out the blackpills?


336b72  No.629851

>>629848

Also,

>implying nuking everything isn't the solution to every problem.


67e8d1  No.629875




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