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>>622742

Poor preparation as in small arms like using the m14? I assume this is one of the mistakes.

Explain please.

>>622744

Well, just as soviets lacked cold protection, americans might have been poorly prepared for swamps and jungle; just as finns performed sneak attacks on skis, gooks attacked from tunnels.

>>622740

They lost because they supported the Vietcong over the French and wonder why they made their own worst enemy.

>Frogs want to maintain oversea clay but can't police it since Bongs sank their navy for being French

>Burgers want to end all vestiges of European colonialism cause having stronk allies is bad for business

>Support early Vietcong to rise up against Frogs suspecting it wouldn't drag on

>Frogs ask Bongs to police Vietnam for them since it will take them a while to get troops over

>Bongs agree but have no troops to spare so use Nip prisoners from WW2 to fight the Gooks on their behalf

>Frogs finally get over there, Bongs fuck off, Burgers have a spergfit cause looks like Frogs might maintain their overseas possessions

>CIA double up their support for Vietcong giving them training and loadsamoney

>Finally Frogs give up and go home

>Gooks decide to go Gommie Commie

>Burgers sperg out yet again as they weren't supposed to do that, ask Bongs for help who then laugh in their face and tell them to go clean their own shit up. Ask Ausfags who agree who think it would be a nice time to shitpost but in reality they are just cucks.

>CIA actually begs President to support the Commies over the South Vietnamise government since they were likely to win and still be friendly despite political differences. President says no cause fuck Commies.

>Burgers flail about for the next decade claiming they are kicking Gook ass by blowing up every tree they come across but in reality are the ones getting creamed by a bunch of pig farmers. Proceed to lose the equivalent of half their air assets over Vietnam and force a radical shakeup of the USAF and USN.

>End up leaving Nam completely humiliated and leaving NATO in a drastically weakened positioned, at least until the Soviets went into Afghanistan. Pretty much everyone believes the Burgers don't know how to fight so everyone starts pushing their luck with them till Gulf War happens.

>Be a retard and throw rookies in the middle of a jungle

>Surprised they get shot

They could avoid all casualties by simply doing what must be done for urban and jungle combat: Burn everything to ashes

>(((they))) lost you the war

Retarded apologist, USA lost the war period, it failed to secure its strategic military and geoplitical goals, they retreated from the war without accomplishing any goals. It doesnt mater if they lost military, politically, because jewish influence or Martian invasion. A lose is a lose

>>622859

So eugenics was the primary goal of the campaign? Suddenly the war does not seems as retarded in its motives.

>>622856

>Greek didn't watch the attached video >>622741

No wonder your country is so poor.

>>622878

>sends the poor, the stupid, the blacks instead of the core of US population

>they lose

>>622907

Why did you repeat yourself 3 times?

>>622859

There's also this.

>>622939

>China is literally poisoning the foods

Technically it's just MADE IN CHINA, not intentionally poisonous.

>>622953

Mate, just ignore him. He's just an autist.

>>623137

>It seems that low IQ, dishonesty and general retardation are characteristic of muttmericas fans.

if that was the case you'd be America's greatest ally, spergkraut.

>>623058

>>623055

>>623045

>>623041

>contradicted self

>got caught lying

>still trying to worm your way because you are buttmad a kraut insulted your favorite destination for green card

CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM

>>622741

I've worked at McDonalds with actual retards. One was fairly normal and a good worker aside from having a one-track mind. Another we weren't sure if he was retarded but he was literally slow at everything he did, it took him five times longer than anyone else to do the same task. For a normal person filling a basket with chicken nuggets and putting it into the fryer only takes about ten seconds, for him it took a full minute.

And of course me being of at least normal intellegence I end up being a shift manager and all these things are my concern. And when we're slammed with a rush is when one of them will walk up to me with a bleeding finger and I bandage it like their mother. Not a job I have any desire to ever return to.

>>623138

>t. Muscovite rape baby

>Spergook made retarded posts never posting any sources, numbers to back up his claims

>spergook posts got exempted

:^)

>>623332

>Another we weren't sure if he was retarded but he was literally slow at everything he did, it took him five times longer than anyone else to do the same task. For a normal person filling a basket with chicken nuggets and putting it into the fryer only takes about ten seconds, for him it took a full minute.

It's called being lazy, mate. Is dragging your feet because you don't give a fuck about your McJob a new concept to you?

They wanted to win a war without fighting it. It can't be too long, not too many casualties, not too much money, make it look like South Vietnam is doing its part, don't draft too many guys, make it look good on TV. Too many restrictions, because the war was a luxury for the US but not for their enemies.

And the "domestic opposition". Not the masses, but journalists, TV, academia, the "deep state".

The NVA didn't have to worry about journalists doing their best to sap morale.

>>623473

>mutts should have fought in the first place

They wanted to side with NVA in, because every single slit eyed "democratic", "republican" and pro mutt movement was corrupted to shit . Gifted weapons being stolen and found on the black market, general laziness and retardation of kikemutt wannabe gooks.

FMJ wasnt combat realistic, but it sure as hell was real life realistic.

But alas amerimutts are retarded and now we are in a mess nobody is happy with.

>>623457

no he is actually retarded and was focusing very hard at what he was doing, he just simply couldn't go any faster. The processing power and clockspeed simply weren't in his head.

>>623499

>But alas amerimutts are retarded and now we are in a mess nobody is happy with.

population replacement by hispanics is the real threat to America, almost too late in that regard. In my short lifetime my east coast hometown has gone from zero spics to spics everywhere. Teachers I know report that their students are all DACA spics now too. Don't even have a single sanctuary city in the state or a reason for spics to be here, but they are.

>>623507

>we would have had won fair and square!

>CIA assets in possession to the last day included

>btfo by nva

And you ask yourself why amerimutts and the kikes dont even want to fund NGOs.

have to produce result first

>>623499

Discussing how wars happen rather than whether they're good or not is more interesting.

A guerilla war, like a war with primitives, can't be won with a trick, a weapon, a special tactic. Only through the superior logistics, materiel and personnel of civilization.

>>623811

Proof of my claim? It's the chink's own boasting.

>>623810

>air force and artillery

>babysit

The irony.

>>624042

Meanwhile in reality:

https://www.quora.com/Why-has-Saigon-attracted-more-foreign-investments-than-Hanoi

>>624061

>When did the chinks boast that they fought alongside nva gooks on the frontline?

They boasted about sending the troops to Vietnam, this fact alone confirms that the chinese are involved in Vietnam, militarily, even if they do not say that they fight on the frontline.

>When did the arvn monkeys won against the northern monkeys on their own without mutt arty and air power?

Hmm, we have allies, why not use them? Oh wait.

>YOU NEVER BACKED YOUR CLAIM, NOT EVEN ONCE!

I have backed every of my claims, you just cannot accept ARVN beat the NVA.

>Looks like EVERYONE is getting tired of you arvn monkey.

Yeah, so tired that the FDI in HCM is still the strongest.

You are pretty much proving yourself wrong now. You realize they are moving to the North because these institute (Lotte Mall) already exist numerous in the South right?

>>624067

Man, this madness.

And no, they don't need to say it, unless you think le 320.000 chink troops there (which outnumber the existing american troops) are just for "repair of AA vehicles".

Wow, so the ARVN using allies help is a no go now? Nope, still they win.

>However, exclusively based on the first 6 months of 2018, Hanoi is the most attractive with 5.87 billion USD.

While:

>>Thus far, foreign investments have been present in all cities and provinces. Ho Chi Minh City is still the favorite environment for investors, which attracts 13.7% of total FDI

LOL

>THAT IS WHY FUCKING F1 IS GOING TO INVEST AND ORGANIZE THE LARGEST NUMBER OF RACES

Oh wow, such a big deal right? Nope. FDI is still going to HCM, and that means infrastructure, not your bread and circus.

>>624075

t. denier

>You sure won, monkey. Where are the battles the ARVN won on their own post 1973?

1973 is the darkest time for the ARVN, you might as well which the battles the nazis won in 1944-1945.

>So gook capital is CURRENTLY the LASTEST, hottest investment spot for globalists, surpassing the entire HO CHI MINH city

LOL, no, it doesn't. HCM is still the top. You think 5.87 billions is great LOL?

>What the fuck do you think Lotte, the worst korea gook corp is about, monkey? It is literally a firm made to build bread and circus, which is what all these third world shitholes are all about.

Lotte Mart is about providing commodities to the people, what does your F1 race tracks do? Oh yes, bread and circus.

>>624079

Sure, fake kraut, please provide parameters that Hanoi surpasses Saigon.

Maybe government corruption lol

>>624085

>Lotte Corporation

>bread and circus

I see food production, entertainment, shopping, machinery and construction there, how is that bread and circus like F1 race cars?

>It is the darkest time for you subhuman monkeys because you literally can't won a single battle against northern gooks without the help of the mutts.

There's still american support during this period, but we still lost due to the corrupted government and the oil crisis, nothing is gonna win when your tanks don't have gas to run.

And you should care because it's the same situation for the nazis in 44-45.

>I merely stated the truth, which will always contradicts what you say, because you are an autistic, low IQ repulsive gook.

What truth? The truth that Saigon has been the top spot of investment since 2007 and is still the top spot?

>MEGA MALLS ARE NOT BREAD AND CIRCUS

It's not, it's a shopping center where you buy goods.

>>624093

>But you can start showing us where Lotte gook kike firm has invested anything in your shitholes rather than megal malls and tourist traps. Go on, monkey.

The mega malls alone are good for the people, since they provide goods to the people.

>SO THE MONKEYS, POSESSING MOST OF THE OIL IN GOOKLAND,

Dude what? There's a oil crisis going on.

>Don't try to derail, monkey.

Not derail, it's a comparison.

>Which somehow changes this year. Probably even the old skydaddy is tired of shitty, low IQ lies, monkey.

It's changed because Saigon already has those institutions, which is now why they are moving to Hanoi. Lotte Mart being an example.

>WALMART IS NOT BREAD AND CIRCUS

Nope, Walmart is a mall for people to buy commodities.

>>624095

As said, 1973 is the hardest time for the ARVN.

The nazis didn't win jackshit in 1944-1945 despite all the help from their allies either.

>>624106

>MEGA MALL CONSUMERISM IS GOOD

Currently the biggest mall in Vietnam belong to Vingroup, which is domestic brand, and many domestic brands still sell in Lotte and so.

>You monkeys literally possed the only oil deposits of gookland and you never managed to use it.

In Ba Ria - Vung Tau? That requires a oil rig, and that shit isn't possible in a war-torn country in the 60-70s.

>We see oil, we can literally set up drills and refinery within months. German armies were pushed out of the oil fields by then.

Where were these oil rigs in Norway then LOL?

>So the "capital" doesn't exactly flow just to the south of gook land anymore, like you claimed.

Actually, it's still flowing, and it has flown for the last 10 years.

>Mega Malls are not THE symbol of consumerism

Nope, it's a place for you to buy stuff. You can argue buying stuff is consumerism, but I don't think buying necessary goods like medicine and food, which are sold in mega malls is muh consumerism.

>Natzee this natzee that

It's the same situation actually, lack of resources and logistics that doom the nazis.

>Nazi

>Allies

I do not mean the Allied, I mean the various nazi allies that the nazi conscript, contrary to popular belief, they didn't fight alone.

>On your fellow agent orang'ed monkeys you kiked out of compensation

LOL we saved that money from the kiked government in North.

>>622740

America didn't lose per se, rather, we were losing on the ground, took infantry out, then then switched to containment strategy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Containment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%90%E1%BB%95i_M%E1%BB%9Bi

That's when Vietnam switched to a Market driven economy as a result

We can still see containment strategy work today That's exactly what Trumps tarrifs against China really are, that's why they are unopposed on a bipartisan level, it probably wasn't even Trumps idea, it was likely his military advisers over at the Pentagon that set them up

>>624215

>How arvn monkeys could have ever won a single battle against northern gooks on their own

As said, we have allies support thorough the whole war, there's no reason not to use them.

>Already established because European people are several milenials above you subhuman slopes?

Established by the nazis? Nope.

>>just to

Still is, illiterate fake kraut.

>Subhuman ingrate gooks calling mutts cucks and then accept their consumerism like their nva rulers do. No surprise.

Yeah, buying food and goods are "consumerism", the absolute state of mutts.

>WE BUILT OUR TANKS FROM SCRATCH, YOU FUCKING MONKEYS.

No you didn't, Nazi Germany government followed tank development starting from WW1, it certainly wasn't from "scratch".

>When did I say we fought alone?

You didn't, but that's the point, like the ARVN, in 44-45, even with support from allies, the nazis still lost because there's no more supplies for the war.

>>624234

>Why did you claim that the arvn monkeys WON any battle against northern gooks ON THEIR OWN then?

Where I did I claim that, fake kraut? Oh wait. The ARVN got the support from allies starting from beginning to end, same for the NVA.

>Norway ALREADY built the oil facilities. So did Romania. Should we demolish them or what?

So the oil is there, even with the facilities built, the nazis

>You just show us how dishonest you are.

How?

>southern gooks are getting cucked and they are not the only gooks receiving globalist funding in gookland in any majority anymore

Objection, we are still receiving the most FDI, and this goes into improving the life and infrastructure of the people, not muh bread & circus like F1 race tracks.

>Indeed. Only subhuman amerimutts and their retarded, ingrate slopes followers would want to destroy local businesses to pursue globalism.

Wut? But we have our own domestic brand of mega malls running.

inb4 buying stuff is globalism

>our own tanks and planes with our own factories with our own people.

Okay that I concede, Republic of Vietnam exists in a period of war, there was no developed infrastructure to build tanks or planes. The geography also discourages tank battles.

>I didn't claim bullshit and then fail to provide any proof for it, monkey. Nice attempt to shift the topic again.

I claim what, mutt? I claim what? The comparison is that the nazis literally failed into the same position as the ARVN and that makes you mad.

>

>>624239

>>Norway ALREADY built the oil facilities. So did Romania. Should we demolish them or what?

So the oil is there, even with the facilities built, the nazis can't even make use of it LOL*

>>624257

>All you monkeys had to do was getting libshit media close on the trials to make sure the money flow where it is needed

LOL retard, you think the libshit media can expose the kiked government or wants to? They can be bribed like anyone else.

>But no, you kiked your own people.

No, we have actual NGO and charities for them, no need for any kiked northern government.

>The post was convenient deleted. But that is alright.

LOL I never deleted any post.

>So when did we fail to use existing oil anlagen then? Oh wait.

Yes, you fail to, considering you still run out of oil in the end.

>Anyway, you can stay fucking buttmad as other mega corps going up north of gookland and balance things out.

LOL the North can have them, the South already has like over 10 MEGA malls already.

>You are not comparable to us, you subhuman monkeys.

Yes, we can, yes we can, because it's the exact same situation.

>We built our weapons, we built our industry, we invited people into our axis on our terms.

Stop talking about "we", it's Nazi Germany and you are not german, and Nazi diplomacy involves "liberation" then "conscription", it was just less harsh than the commies. It's the reason why Nazi aren't well-loved anywhere except the baltics.

>>624268

So discussion is pretty much over then, I have no interest into discussing how the nazis lost.

Also, nice google translate, fake kraut.

>>624285

Since you insist:

1. ARVN always fought with US support, they have never fought "on their own", whatever that means, same for the NVA.

2. Agent Orange sprayed over Cambodia, Laos and North Vietnam:

>the US government sprayed some 20 million gallons of herbicides and defoliants over vast areas of South Vietnam (and to a lesser extent in Laos, Cambodia, and even, marginally, North Vietnam)

http://agentorangerecord.com/agent_orange_history/

>>624324

Well, this has gone on long enough.

>>624326

see

>>622741

and

>>622859

OP is right

>>622839

So it was a civil war between commies?

>>622740

They lost because they thought one gook was the same as another gook (i.e. Vietnam would be just like Korea and WW2's Pacific Campaign) and got overconfident which had a few effects:

1. They didn't realise that even if it went Communist Vietnam would have been anti-China as fuck. That means it would either quietly align itself as subtly pro-USA or more likely would go for relations with Russia which would have accelerated the Sino-Soviet split and possibly turned it into a shooting war. That would be great for the West since without the Sino-Soviet split the Cold War was an all-but-guaranteed Communist win.

2. They thought they could just use conventional warfare like the last two times (e.g. muh kill-deaths)

3. Even when they worked out conventional warfare wouldn't work they thought they could just copy from the Commonwealth tactics during the Malaysian Emergency (one Asian is another Asian)

It says a lot that the Ausfags were significantly more effective cost-for-cost (less of them but the effectiveness-per-solider and A$ spent was much higher) in most cases simply because they understood something about the situation on the ground.

Also glow-in-the-dark nonsense from the CIA but that's a given.

>>624614

>>622740

Also on the subject of cost-for-cost efficiency escalation only ever fucked the USA. Each American soldier on the ground - even if they're just a conscript - requires paying for basic training, transport halfway around the world, ammo, food, medical care, leave and has a huge political cost for any death or wound. Each gook costs a handful of rice and a shitty rifle and each death is a free martyr for your cause.

Adding 10,000 more Americans is billions of $s a year. 10,000 more gooks to match that is a fraction of the same cost. Neither side can force a military victory (gooks will just get bombed if they try) so it's just a meatgrinder. A smaller number of elite American troops using locals as politically disposable and cheaper cannon fodder achieves the same positive effect with less risk. PTSD from not realising this sooner i what has led to conventional thinking for special forces in the Middle East where ironically the exact same mistake of fighting using assumptions from the previous war was made. Generals always fight the last war is a cliché for a reason and all.

>>622740

Not sure it was retard factor causing losses. America fucktardedly believed that locals with a long history of foreign occupation would somehow embrace a new boss that looked a lot like the old boss. Nope, instead they fought like motherfuckers defending their homeland (surprise), and America used a lot of dumb tactics. The high casualties were completely a result of poor tactics and mismanagement by commanders all the way up to LBJ and Nixon. Not just due to tards and medically unfit, but it's nice that you shit all over dead men.

>>624283

>getting mad at the vol for deleting your muttspamming ass

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

>>622741

Yup, I saw that video on my Youtube recommendations too a while ago.

I'd still like to note that McNamara's morons were a minority of the total troops in Vietnam, around 350k according to wikipedia. Chances are, a lot of them weren't even put into combat roles.

>>622878

Just McNamaraism. Just look good on paper and promise a lot of soldiers for the war effort.

>>624148

Or this….

>>622740

Not only that but you cannot fight a guerrilla army using conventional warfare & tactics. It's impossible to win. It's hit and run, it's civvies and enemies interlinked. You don't know who is friend or who is foe, your environment is also unforgiving. I don't think you know much about wars anon. I suggest you read up on unconventional warfare and how soldiers have had to adapt toward it in order to fight it. I'm not saying the politicians weren't fucking retarded, that's a given in any country though.

>>622740

>The Vietcong were fighting literal retards and STILL losing

The vietcong won, Anon. There's no denying it. It was a trainwreck of a war, sure, but the US still lost.

>>628250

>play by the rules

You guys were napalming shit left and right and sending CIA to exterminate gook civvies for entertainment on a daily basis. GIs were ill-trained to fight in jungles and intel knew jack shit about the environment.

>>628257

Should have been carpet bombing Hanoi until there wasn't a single living thing within 100 miles

>posts deleted

Tee hee

Lolberturdianism in action. Just let the gook say the arvn monkeys "directed" us forces at any time during the war. Surely not poisonous retarded shitpost claim 😂😂😂

>>628250

Pretty much this. During the Greco-Turkish war we did the mistake to not scour the earth from every male cockroach we encountered in our unstoppable march to Ankara. Wanna guess what happened to our civilians, women and children alike, when we were forced to retreat to a mysteriously growing retaliatory turkish wave?

>>623509

Is DACA what I think it is? https://infogalactic.com/info/Dumaguete_Academy_for_Culinary_Arts