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Literally just get yourself an animal hide them mate.

>>612178

Yeah, but that shit isn't cheap.

>>612175

what if she rolls over?

>>612175

I've always used air myself, never had a problem with punctures and I carry a patch kit just in case. But if you're worried about punctures they make hybrid mats that are a thin layer of foam that also inflates. Not nearly as bulky as full-foam (but still thicker than a good air mattress), not as likely to get punctures as it's a thicker material, and if it does puncture and you're a retard that didn't bring a patch kit it still has some semblance of insulation from the foam. We've got a camp supplies gear over in >>599575 if you're interested, I don't believe mattresses were mentioned but we did talk some about sleeping bags.

>>612175

>inflatable ones don't appeal to me because punctures are something nobody has time for.

Then don't lie on a patch of cacti, or a shit-ton of rocks. Prepare your shit before you seep. It's not that hard.

>>612228

What is it called and who makes/made them?

>>612230

That works if you're really budget minded, but Jesus Christ don't call your nigger-rigged parade float the "best solution."

>>612228

Seconding who makes that. I have sneaking suspicion it's on the heavy side but curious nonetheless.

>>612181

>>612229

They are produced by Carinthia.

>>612324

Two Carinthians?

>>612228

>>612324

https://www.carinthia.eu/bags/en/shop/Sleeping-Bag/Defence+6/?card=1168&list=1

This is the closest I could find on their site. Do you reckon it would be as good?

>>612546

Should be Carinthia has a good name.

>>612229

They are officially called "Schlafsack, Mumienform", which translates to "sleeping-bag, mummy-type". I have no idea who makes them, but they are still being produced.

>>612258

It's a little over 2 kilos and can be packed into the size of two kevlar helmets strapped together. It should come with a (waterproof) bag you can stuff it into. We were ordered to stuff it, and not roll it, because otherwise the filling material would get damaged or whatever. It works, and you can squeeze it down to an acceptable size.

>>612546

Looks like it. You could always ask.

You may want to get a used one for less than half the price of a new one.

>>612561

My dad used to do geomatics up in Northern Ontario. He swore by these mummy bags. Unsure if they are made by the same people but his is rated for -40.

What about hammocks

>lightweight

>compact

>KISS–it's literally just two rings and some cloth

<doesn't keep you warm at all

>>615057

They do make hammocks that are insulated like sleeping bags, and come with a rainfly to protect from the elements, which have their own benefits+tradeoffs to tents.

>Pros

–hammock is lighter than sleeping bag+pad+tent (in most cases)

–guaranteed comfort–inclines, rocks, roots, etc., don't matter anymore

–separated from anything that crawls on ground

–less likely to get wet

–easier to stay cool in warm weather

<Cons:

–takedown/setup time–doesn't matter so much if you're setting up a longer camp, but if you're backpacking and moving to a different place every day it can be a pain

–if you're a retard while setting up there's a nonzero chance of a rope breaking and you falling

–harder to stay warm in cold weather, for the same reasons it's easier to stay cool in warm weather. Can counteract this with underquilts and similar inside the hammock but then you lose the weight advantage.

>>615057

As long as you are in an area with woods nearby:

>grab sticks

>set up frame from sticks

>put frame on logs, stumps, or between branches

>place sleeping bag on frame

You would be mostly safe from insects in non-subzero areas, and in sub-zero areas you would get some distance between your body and the frozen soil.

No need to carry around a piece of cloth either, although a piece of cloth like a hammock is much appreciated in most circumstances. Zeltbahn Hurra!

>>615069

I just got a camping hammock and I love it. Heavy-duty carabiners, hammock straps instead of ropes, attached 6" bag that the whole thing packs into. Takes seconds to set up between a couple trees. Put your sleeping bag in it and you're just as cozy as anywhere else, and way more comfortable than being on the ground. Drape a tarp over it and it's weatherproof. I've been sleeping in it in my backyard on weekends just to get used to it before my cold-weather camp trip in a couple months.

Tl;dr i'm never setting up another tent again unless I'm with my family.

>>616188

hammocks are the shit, i went from mats to hammocks and i am never going back

Question. When sleeping in an uncovered bed innawoods, how do you stay safe from fleas, ticks, mosquitos, and so on? Most insects and spiders won't bother you because they don't want to crawl all the way to get to you, but these little bloodsuckers like to fly and jump and fall out of trees. You can't spray repellant on yourself in the middle of the night and it isn't safe or smart to leave an open fire or to burn candles all night, so what can you do? Catching Lyme disease during a nap sounds pretty shitty. I've always used tents myself so I have no experience with avoiding bites in a mat or a hammock.

>>616188

I've never actually slept on a hammock for some ungodly reason, but I remember hearing or reading a tip regarding cold weather-hammock stuff. Supposedly you're supposed to put a sleeping mat between you and the hammock to compensate for lost insulation effectiveness caused by the compression.

>>616747

>how do you stay safe from fleas, ticks, mosquitos, and so on?

You don't. Your only protection is your clothing. And a mosquito net. You can get some pretty neat mosquito nets and hoods if you bother to look for them. Other than that, you just have to suck it up and enjoy your new friends and diseases.

>>616760

the heat loss is real yes, i slept a couple nights in the ardennes without an underquilt, -3 celsius, i lived but it is not an experience i would recommend, if you're planning to go out in cold weather you will end up packing as much as having brought a regular setup and a bivi back, but in the summertime an inflatable mat and a good sleeping bag are all you need

and a tarp obviously

>>615218

What’s this suppose to look like?

>>616760

>>616766

Yeah, camp hammocks come with either a mat or an underquilt that you use on colder trips. Haven't bought one myself as I have a very nice tent and I like it, but when I've tried tehm they're very comfortable.