/k/ - Weapons

Oh yeah forgot the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAQv4upffS8

Mama always said you'd be

The Chosen One.

<pans over the two towers

Hmmmm

I can buy that 9/11 was a false flag. However, it seems to me that the controlled demolition theory isn't the way it was false-flagged. There are just so many moving parts and possible loose ends there, between the bomb-placers, and the four planes, and all the possible eyewitnesses, etc. If I was Chief Rabbi Shlomo McShekelstein, I would be aware that the more co-consipirators there exist, the more likely that the conspiracy is exposed, and that the more complicated a plan is, the more likely something goes wrong, which means some convoluted Rube-Goldbergesque plot wouldn't be what best serves Greater Israel. It seems far more likely to me that Alphabet Soup just found out about the plot early on, and just gently nudged their pet sandniggers here and there a couple times until they unwittingly served their (((master's))) bidding.

>>607629

>wow dude its so big someone would have talked

Wrong

See:

>Atom bomb

>MK ultra

>Kennedy

>Northwoods

>And all the other public made secret operations

>>607629

>It seems far more likely to me that Alphabet Soup just found out about the plot early on, and just gently nudged their pet sandniggers here and there a couple times until they unwittingly served their (((master's))) bidding.

Just like Pearl Harbor. FDR knew the attacks were coming, but he needed an excuse to proselytize the population to supporting the war he was planning, so he looked the other way, did nothing, and let the "unexpected tragedy" unfold.

>>607636

>FDR knew the attacks were coming

He made them happen thanks to McCollum's memo

>Puts Americans of Japanese and German origin in camps

>Seizes their property unlawfully

>Declares neutrality in 1939

>Joins the war once ZOG demands it, after a false flag

>Champion of fight against totalitarianism and fascism

>>607619

When I start it, the thread keeps shutting down…

>>607629

Mossad agents don't talk, anon. Also, there were tons of eye witnesses who noticed strange "construction crews" inside the buildings before the attacks - it's just that they don't get any exposition from the (((media))).

And you don't need thousands of people in such a plan - just a handful of people who execute it and a few people in key positions who ensure the plan works as intented, such as (((Rumsfeld))).

The 9/11 Conspiracy theories are impossible due to simple weight and size. It would have involved too many people, relied on too many things to go right, too many mouths to keep shut, too spectacular and too much to ever pull off.

Real false flags would be small and require tiny handfulls of people in remote locations where there would only be controlled witnesses. The very idea that such a large operation was possible at all lacks any sort of logic or reason. It would be an explosion somewhere, an attack, some place out of the way, limited, not in the middle of fucking New York City. The whole thing was over the top for the operations that followed, nothing makes sense in that route of logic.

Loose Change was dogshit, nothing more than the usual weak "skeptical" bullshit of "Durr, I'm a retard and I don't understand this, since my pedestrian understanding of this particular aspect doesn't fit with the official story, it means the whole official story is made up BOOM I FUCKING WIN HURRR DURR" type of advanced retardation of the internet. Weak arguments that are easily evaporated in the sunlight of reason are held in the shade by the conspiracy theorist and protected from the light of truth and any other threat to their little precious lie they like to tell themselves.

Just because things don't always add up 100% easy logical lines doens't mean that it isn't real, real life is complicated that way. Much of the "proof" is made up, and any evidence that destroys it is, of course, convenienlty, part of the "conspiracy" and of course, anyone who doens't believe is a "shill".

I still think a lot of them are trolls knowing how stupid this whole thing is, others who are a bit stupid and like to think they are clever like to think they are 'smart" for being so skeptical and "free thinking".

>>607669

>And you don't need thousands of people in such a plan - just a handful of people who execute it and a few people in key positions who ensure the plan works as intented, such as (((Rumsfeld))).

But in the controlled demolition story it's a lot more than a handful. You've got the people who plant the bombs, the people who create the CGI for the plane, the people to pose as family and friends of the deceased for the documentaries, the people who invent the registry for the planes, the people who falsify birth and death certificates for all the deceased…you see what I mean by loose ends? We're talking hundreds of people here, not all of which are trained agents. Whereas with the "Find some dumb kebabs that already hate America and point them in the right direction" requires much less planning, much less funding, and requires less than a handful of people to be in the know–this has the added bonus that, if any of the controlled op sandniggers are captured, they don't know shit either, and can't rat anyone out.

Again, it's in Chief Rabbi Shlomo McShekelstein's best interest to choose the path of least resistance to forward the plan of Greater Israel, rather than some convoluted shit that could go wrong a hundred different ways. And can you really imagine that a kike would spend any more money than absolutely necessary to get what he wants done?

>>607670

Like evidence of Iraqi wmd's?

No fuck it, while we are at it, let's give this a try and see what happens.

Sandy Hook False Flag Deepstate Fake actors crisis crisis-actors

>>607672

Sandy hook is emperically fake and one of the most sloppily executed false flags in recent memory.

>>607629

Everyone was in on it. DoD, Pentagon, White House, Wall Street, DARPA, Mossad, Israel. The last person to know was a dune nigger hiding in the mountains in the desert.

>>607670

>The 9/11 Conspiracy theories are impossible due to simple weight and size. It would have involved too many people, relied on too many things to go right, too many mouths to keep shut, too spectacular and too much to ever pull off.

>>607671

>But in the controlled demolition story it's a lot more than a handful.

That's completely wrong though.

>CGI for the plane, the people to pose as family and friends of the deceased for the documentaries, the people who invent the registry for the planes, the people who falsify birth and death certificates for all the deceased…you see what I mean by loose ends?

You mean you've overdosed on semen and actually think the planes weren't remote-controlled to fly into the towers?

Also:

>>607642

>>607677

And everyone who might talk will get mossad't.

>>607673

>citation needed

On a positive note, Pinochet came to power in 1973 on this date.

>>607670

>easily evaporated in the sunlight of reason

That's why no one believes the official story. It neither fits with common sense nor stands up to critical thinking.

>>607681

>remote-controlled

All the telecommunications from the plane were faked, then. There's another few dozen people, all voice actors. And 4 heavy aircraft, 757's, that each cost multi-millions, were replaced in the night with identical copies. And the ATC was replaced with fakers who would overlook all the discrepancies, because there wouldn't have been a flight plan, meaning that a handful of FAA guys were paid off too- unless that they faked all the people boarding and the hundreds of people waiting in the lobby were paid off instead. And all the ground few was paid off to ignore nobody boarding.

There's plenty of sketchy, iffy bullshit that happened on 9/11 to warrant speculation, but you're the type of dumbass that most people will use as a scapegoat to ignore all the proof. You are literally a living strawman.

>>607681

>You mean you've overdosed on semen and actually think the planes weren't remote-controlled to fly into the towers?

Usually when I speak to controlled demolition types they maintain that the planes didn't exist. But if we assume the planes were just remote controlled, that still begs an awful lot of questions. Why bother with explosives at all, for instance? You've already got an attack on US soil, you've got plenty of cassus belli to go invade the sandbox. It's not like normies are going to say, "Well, if the plane had crushed the building completely to rubble, I'd be mad enough to support retaliation. But because it only crushed 85% of the building, I'm not quite ready to die for Israel." And then there's the flight that crashed, if the planes were controlled by remote you'd still have to hire people to fake phone calls from the passengers, and suppress any actual phone calls made by the passengers, which means more loose ends. That also begs the question of how remote control was accomplished, there was no fly by wire in 2001, so there would be physical linkage between the pilot controls and the surfaces—the pilot could physically wrest the controls back in the correct direction.

And you still haven't answered the essential question: Given all these disadvantages, what is the ADVANTAGE of any of this shit over just giving some funds to controlled opposition sandniggers and giving them a nudge?

>>607706

Also what this guy >>607705 said.

>>607637

Yeah but the point is he was made aware of it by the yugoslav spy.

>>607634

Are there chimpouts?

Obligatory.

>>607723

Eye witnesses are notoriously wrong, especially under stress. During such an event their perceptions are altered by stress and they often jump to conclusions, see things they didn't see, hear things they didn't hear. Or more often, mishear and mistake things they perceived as things they were not.

Again another rotten skulled person going about things the pathological way, confirmation bias and all that. Obviously what one eye witness said on the spot is absolute truth (because its what you wanted to hear) and therefore is proof positive you are right and thereofre all other arguments or explanations are wrong.

Alright lads. Holohoax. Yay or nay?

>>607728

>Eye witnesses

I don't know if you paid attention but those are actual fucking firefighters who went INTO the WTC and reported secondary explosions happening RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM.

You goddamn fucking retarded idiot. End your life.

>>607732

Yes, they are eye witnesses and their testimony could easily be them miscounstuing what they see and hear. Its not absolute proof in and of itself. Apparently you don't listen mush head.

>>607735

You just lost your chances to reduce your own retardation.

What a goddamn dumbass. A fucking jarhead is smarter than you.

>>607706

No one's bothered to answer this yet, demolitionists.

Given all these disadvantages, what is the ADVANTAGE of any of this shit over just giving some funds to controlled opposition sandniggers and pointing them where you want?

>>607701

*In nomine patris et fenii et spiritus sanctus*

>>607671

>CGI

Daily reminder that fly-by-wire technology was invented decades ago, as were flight simulators. The planes could have been remotely-controlled.

>>607768

Aight anon, let's go with your fantasy world for a little and pretend that they did have complete fly-by-wire technology in 2001. So now the issues with this is that, a) there was no fly-by-wire for the 757 and there is still none today, b) you can't just pop it on, you have to gut the cockpit, and meaning there would have to be construction done. Which there is no evidence of, but still, I'll keep playing along. So all the ground crew, again, multiple dozens of people, would still have to be payed off. The guys who manage the gates, they'd have to be paid off. The company would have to be completely uninformed or bribed significantly, the former meaning that all company at the airport would have to be paid off, upwards of a hundred people, or the accountants at the company and pretty much anyone who manages anything whatsoever would have to be paid off, another upwards of a hundred people. At this point, at the very least like 500 people have been bribed. And none of them say anything. But let's keep going with it. So everything's gone perfectly and the planes are about to takeoff. Now, are there any pilots on board? If there aren't, the entire ATC tower must've been paid off. On top of that, either all the flight crew including the women attendants would have to be bribed off and ergo know about the plot and being to suicide if there was no captain on board. So at this point, we have minimum a pilot and co-pilot willing to suicide themselves into a building. And they must know about this because no pan pan or mayday or emergency was received when they couldn't control their aircraft. And on top of that, we have anybody in the families of this 500+ people that might've been told. Anywhere from another 10 to 1000+ people likely heard second-hand.

And not one, not a single person, nobody, said anything, or has said anything, and no paper discrepancies have been found.

And this is on top of all the voiceactors, and the background logistical people, like the guys driving the transport trucks and whatever.

Fly by wire and remote control shenanigans not necessary. CIA/Mossad could easily get some patsies to hijack the planes for real.

>>607778

That's what we've been fucking saying, strelok. But truthers seem to suffer from a peculiar brand of autism that causes them to believe explosives are the only kind of false flag that happens, and that Mossad will exclusively craft justaccordingtokikeaku convoluted schemes and will never make the simple and obvious choice.

>>607772

>So now the issues with this is that, a) there was no fly-by-wire for the 757

Where's the proof for that, jewpig? Why wouldn't USrael have technology for that? Remote-controlled planes have been created by the NASA or air force in the 60's already.

Also, what's with your idiotic rant that thousands of people would have to be paid off? You need only a few key people (Israeli-Americans) to be part of the plan. Why would any low-key personell have to be bribed if the plane was switched to remote-control/pre-programmed flight plan shortly after the take-off.

>>607778

They had no ability to actually fly the plane anywhere though - this isn't a cesna, but a huge airliner. It was impossible for a bunch of dumb arabs who could barely fly a cesna to navigate the planes anywhere near the wtc towers.

Also:

>>607642

>>607728

>>607732

>There are people this dumb who're alive

I'm surprised you know how to operate a computer.

>>607810

>Why wouldn't USrael have technology for that

I honestly can't display my disdain for you in a way that doesn't sound edgy, so all I'm gonna say is that you're dumb as fuck. The government does not have 757 techs, nor a commercial airliner engineering team. Which you could say were commissioned, but that's just another batch of people who have to be bribed. You're right, remote-controlled planes were built from the ground up by NASA. By displaying your complete lack of knowledge about this stuff it just further and further discredits you.

>Why would any low-key personell

Did you read my post, you harping nigger? You have to gut the cockpit to replace it with fly-by-wire. Fuck, now I have to explain to you how airports work. Alright, each gate is 'owned', or like 'reserved' by a company. At each airport, there's a significant number of people who work specifically for a company and have hot access to the upper echelons of that company. If you listen to some ATC about blown tires or something you'll likely hear them say 'we have to contact company', and regarding the gates, yes, it's a bit retarded, and that's exactly why you get planes who wait 7 hours for a gate, because their company only has one gate the airport they were rerouted to or such. Every company employee can contact the company proper. So if the company is uninformed about 4 of their expensive, main-fleet aircraft being gutted, anybody in the ground crew can tell them, meaning that they must be bribed off. And this is besides all the other neutral ground crew. The only other alternative is that the company is informed, and they're not going to take loosing, again, 4 heavy aircraft slightly. Those numbers don't simply disappear from paper. Meaning instead, you'd have to bribe the countless accountants and anybody who could even possibly glance at those numbers. If it switched to remote-control after takeoff and no emergency was received on anything- and if their radio got cut there's multiple other ways for them to contact ground, and would also mean that they couldn't do readback on what the ATCs tell them, meaning again ATC would have to be bribed- which means that the pilot and the co-pilot, who lost control of their aircraft and gave no message, were aware of the plot. Which completely shreds your little retard theory alone because you wouldn't need remote-control if you have two willing pilots.

>>607810

>CIA, known for starting wars, assassinations, and changing the shape of world politics through subversion can't teach a few people how to fly a plane

>>607837

>Nobody has any secret projects.

You realize you're the most retarded person on 8ch right now, right jewpig? It's funny how you pretend to be an aircraft engineer and offer no arguments to support your points.

>>607840

There was a secret project to make me stub my toe yesterday. You don't know about it because it was secret. That means it's true.

It goes both ways. If it was a secret project you can't prove its existence anymore than I can prove its nonexistence, but regardless, hundreds of people are involved.

>aircraft engineer

???

No, I just have an IQ higher than 60 and I understand how reality functions. This isn't esoteric knowledge, you're just braindead.

>>607744

Still waiting faggots.

>>607609

9/11 conspiracy theories are for retarded weirdos who are painfully mypoic on the issue/have ulterior motives other than "finding the truth"

just like all conspiracy theorist

>>607852

Neat, except 4 757's taking off and filed through only US territory is a hell of a lot different than a single nondescript "airliner" going over international waters.

>>607855

Then it's a good thing for them that they had a drill involving hijacked airliners crashing into buildings planned on the very same day.

>The September 11th attacks were the first to be widely linked to a military exercise going on at the same time. And there were a number of regularly-run exercises either ongoing or planned for shortly after the 11th. A NORAD operation called Northern Vigilance was running on the 11th, which involved deploying fighter aircraft to Alaska and northern areas of Canada as a response to Russian bombers flying over Siberia. Other war games that were planned to take place either on or just after September 11th included Global Guardian, an annual exercise designed to test command and control procedures during a nuclear exchange; and Vigilant Guardian, a semiannual NORAD exercise that tested preparedness for various airborne scenarios, including the crash of a hijacked plane into a building.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/08/12/terror-attacks-and-drills/

There's footage of radar operators on 9/11 asking if the actual attacks were part of the drill or real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52a-xR2HCA8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA

>>607859

>comments are disabled for this video

Typical coward.

>>607854

>waaaahhh don't question the jew-run government goyim waaaaaahhh

jewpigs always lash out in impotent rage when people refuse to be authority-worshipping slaves, hm?

>>607862

I never said you cant question it, Im calling you out as a stupid retarded person who is using this tragedy as nothing more than a tool to shill your own horseshit, which you proved with your random lashing out at da j00z

It's 9/12 guys I'm afraid you're going to have to wait until next year to continue this conversation.

>>607856

I'm not denying that, that's some of the sketchy bullshit I mentioned previously, I'm denying the fact that it was anything other than directed sandniggers. They knew about it coming, clearly, but thinking that it was some huge operation with remote-controlled planes and or magic CGI and shit is retarded.

>>607863

>j00z

>>>/reddit/

>>607899

>Muj never got American help

Yeah, they just made those stingers themselves.

>>607899

CIA actually did have ties to Al Qaeda though, they even imported the organization into Bosnia in the 1990 to help out the Bosnians. Most of the Hijackers had Bosnian passports, because that's how muslims pay you back.

CIA also had ties to the creation of Taliban, which is basically a morphed mujaheddin group that got a shitton of manpower from "youths" trained by Pakistan ISI.

>>607635

To be fair, those are not the sort of beams that would have been part of WTC. Way too rusted.

But still, nice video.

>>607701

Invidious?

>>607670

"Inside job" can be literal and figurative, you know. You may not believe the towers or the Pentagon were destroyed from the inside, but you'd have to be completely ignorant or delusional to not believe they were destroyed by anyone other than a coalition US, Mossad, Saudis, etc. or at least by different groups with the same goal in mind.

>>607746

>Stalwart Alley

You mean "stalwart ally"?

Obligatory.

>>607967

>>607977

I'm an old feudalist political smart, not some kid believing the modern propaganda they tell the kids (lower class) so they can get the support they need for war. Ya know, back in the day this shit was common, you would be fighting alongside one king and kingdom against another, three years later you might be fighting against that kingdom on the side of the one you were fighting to maintain world political balance. That's just geopolitics, that's just war. This clean cut one side against the other in massive monolithic struggles is a bit simplistic if not worse. "Us" and "them" do exist, but not nearly in the massive world context we would like to think.

The west supported the Afghans against the Soviets back in the day, then later many of those same Afghans turned against western interests and became radical jihadists who were organizing terrorism. What else is new? Only the kids think this is suspicious/strange, anyone who knows anything isn't surprised when they have to declare war or at best even oppose old co-beligerants and allies. The fact we support this state or these group of rebels or this faction or taht doesn't always mean we made these people and that when they turn on us they are "inside jobbers' it just means interests and sides have changed and now they are fighting us instead this time around. That's the way the grown up political world has worked for thousands of years.

Best modern examples is the fact that the Ottomans are hated enemies of the west, yet we have to be in a strategic alliance with a hated enemy because of the Eurasian bloc. The Arabs and Muslims are our enemies, yet we have to maintain those alliances that are beneficial. We aren't "friends" its just the nature of balance, power, geopolitics. We all work together when it works and don't when it doesn't.

Are radical Islamists backed by official states a problem? Yes. Afghanistan was the worst, the war started out with a very legitimate goal worth achieving. Is there the possibility that our own allies are supporting terrorism underground hiding behind the legitimacy of their states and the fact we can't break an alliance or agreement? Well, I'm not going to answer that because its best to play stupid instead of being smart. But I'll let you think about that one yourself. Do I think tribal and radical Islamic Saudi's who promoted this terrorism like to blame Mossad and Jews considering they are their enemies anyway? Do some thinking for yourself friend. Are the answers simple and pleasant? When are they ever?

I'm politically smart enough to think for myself, which means I'm smart enough to know when to quit suggesting things. I don't think the US was behind 9/11, I don't think it was an inside job from the real inside. I think we have some friends who might use their situation in a certain place in the energy production importance area to get away with things we otherwise would not. I think some of these folks really push the envelope and forget whose really in charge of this larger bloc of power and general alliance and system of cooperation.

And I think they are only denying they have something to do with 9/11 when it turned into the fact the west was willing to kill and fight over the tragedy instead of retreat.

>>608012

Nothing you said contradicted literally anyone in the thread. Even when you said that you don't think the US is behind the attack, you added 'but I think Isreal is'. Which is the point, Isreal manned the op but it was done with US agents because, well, they're US agents. Your entire post is dodging the question, mumble-speak, and praising yourself for being intelligent.

>>607899

It wouldn't be the first terrorist group the US has created, they created one in 1863 in Japan

>>608016

>1863

wait what?

>>607705

>he doesn't know that there are false flag protocols from the 1970s that involve swapping planes in mid air without the ATC noticing

>>607706

From what I remember the WTC was to be entirely renovated due to Asbestos regulations or some shit, the Port Authority said that it would be cheaper to just tear the Towers down and build new ones before they sold it to Larry Silverstein in Summer of 2001.

>>608014

I think some people have become so rabidly anti Israel they read everything in this entire world, both written and unwritten, to assume Israel is behind everything to the point that's all they see because that's all they allow themselves to see.

I'm not referencing Israel. The mumble speak is because speaking too clearly and making too much sense is not the best way to go about talking about such topics in a public forum. Its good you misread what I wrote, it proves I did a good job of this. I can speak to the adults while the kids get the whole thing wrong.

Tricking autists into thinking it was CGI planes/RC planes/controlled explosives was the greatest deflection in glow in the dark history, it means no one can actually look into the matter without getting blasted with a bunch of retarded theories and turbo autist screaming, thus hiding the major fuck ups that lead to the attacks from public view. Same shit with Roswell.

>>608049

wew imagine being this retarded

JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

>>608085

It also can't melt the entire internal support structure away resulting in a collapse at freefall speeds.

>>608086

Gonna have to take you in for thought crime.

>>608088

Not so fast, do you have a repeating digits license, and clearance of Throne/6G or higher to legally get high-capacity assault 88 "Hitler" dubs?

>>608016

We need more info Japanon. This sounds juicy.

>>608085

It also can't cause nearby structures to spontaneously collapse in the same manner as the buildings that were hit.

>>608018

>>608095

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1863_in_Japan

>>608016

And you better provide a good source, nippo.

>>608086

It actually can, and I've seen ordinary wood fires heat the entire structure of a steel warehouse to the point where it collapses.

If there was any conspiracy, it wasn't about the jet fuel or secret demolition teams. It was about CIA and Mossad paying some sandnigger to crash jets into the twin towers, so they can justify 20 years of middle eastern destabilization.

I mean Russian GRU and Chink intelligence even warned the US State Department that an attack was incoming two weeks before it went down, this is on record, and bush did fuckall.

It's like Sandy Hook. The conspiracy wasn't child actors, it was brainwashing some autistic kid to carry out an actual school shooting.

Only controlled opposition like Alex Jones seriously talks about it being child actors. Maybe a few parents weren't really parents, or were paid off, but all the kids that got fucked up were real.

It's like saying that the government is corrupt enough to perpetrate a massive conspiracy to take guns away so they can kill us all - but the government isn't corrupt enough to actually kill kids.

>>608018

>>608095

>>608123

Agents working for rothschilds and rockefellers paid people to overthrow the shogunate and deceived Japanese into fighting the shogunate so they could install a central bank and trade with Japan

>>608128

http://thinker-japan.com/thinkwar.html

Maybe terrorists was the wrong word

OK think of it this way.

Take 4 paper clips.

Straighten them into wires.

Stick them in dirt, so they're pointing straight up.

Put some flat weight on top of it.

Make sure the weight is such that if you add even 5% more mass, the paperclip pylons will collapse. Let's say 10 ounces, and they collapse at 11 ounces.

Light a normal coal/wood fire under it.

Eventually the paper clips will be heated to the point where instead of being able to hold 11 ounces, they'll be able to hold 9 ounces. The 10 ounce weight on top will exceed that, and they'll collapse.

>>608137

https://washingtontechnology.com/articles/2003/12/12/e-team-keeps-cool-in-crisis.aspx

>>608149

Oh and they won't be white hot, or even red hot, they'll look normal but their compressive strength will be reduced.

>>607670

>>607629

The impossible is allowed to happen because everyone believes it to be impossible. People like you simply have no conception of the power held within the highest echelons.

I brung this up earlier, but nobody's replied so I'll ask again: If the whole thing was staged, then why didn't flight 93 hit washington, or if it was never meant to, why didn't the media mention it more often?

>>608178

>but nobody's replied so I'll ask again:

They haven't replied because they don't have an answer. I'm still waiting on >>607706 myself.

>>608190

>obviously

But then why didn't the mainstream media report on it at all?

>>608178

>why didn't flight 93 hit washington

Because the passengers fought them off? It was 20 minutes off from Washington. Just because it was staged, doesn't mean it didn't involve innocents. In fact, involving innocents makes it all the more believable, they just didn't expect them to fight back. I'm aggravated that I even have to waste my time writing this down for you.

>>608207

fought who off? there was no terrorists on the airplanes, they were being flown by imaginary 2012 technology a decade previous.

>>608156

How does it feel being in the super sekrit club?

>>608273

What is with those filenames?

>>608333

They got shared to me so I shared them here.

>>607981

>We objectively created Al-Qaeda which is spelled wrong in your image back during the Cold War against the Ruskies, you fuckwit.

No we didnt. This is just another online autistic "fact" right up there with "LOL YOU ONLY USE 10% OF YOUR BRAIN!" or "DUDE WHY DID HITLER INVADE DURING THE WINTER?"

Al-Qaeda wasnt even formed until after the soviet afghan war. Eat a dick you dumbass.

>>609164

Hillary admitted it on camera you dumb nigger.

>>609164

We made mujaheddin, we made osama, we made al qaeda, we made taliban, we made ISIS, we made saddam, and we even made a nuclear korea by giving them refined fuel.

You dumb, ignorant quad nigger. Stick to instagram.

>>609199

mujahideen have existed since the time of mohammed, dumbass.

next, saddam received support from the US because he opposed iran; the US didn't create him or place him into power entirely, but provided some financial backing. that's it.

next, [citation needed] on the US giving refined fuel to best korea.

you're right about ISIS, tho; america and israel jointly created it, hence why it never attacks israel or nations which are friendly to israel.

lastly, osama died in 1999 or around there, the (((US))) dubbed some shitty videos of him after the fact.

also check'd.

>>607846

>>607744

I hold that they paid some sandniggers to fly the planes into the towers AND blew it up controlled demolition. The advantages are twofold; we have a documented scapegoat and we have guaranteed success. Of course, the key was to hit Tower 7, where most of the servers/records were held, otherwise the mission would be moot. The planes provide the excuse/shock/terror and the demolitions provide the success of the mission.

of course if you had two brain cells to rub together you could connect the dots. Our false-flag ops have proven their capability already. They used real planes with real people in them and flew them into the towers. Then they blew the towers up when they didn't fall on their own.

Here are the retard conspiracies:

>ayylmao projections/holograms (come on guys)

>cgi (too many phone calls went out)

>empty RC planes (expensive, unreliable)

>>610846

The three you mentioned are CIA niggers' effort to discredit people further, because there's still not enough fluoride in the water so sometimes people ask themselves

>but what do you call someone who plans and executes conspiracies

Then you peddle absolutely fucktarded shit (like flat earth, CGI etc.) to discredit people who find conspiracies.

>>610846

>guaranteed success.

For the moment, let's take it as given that planes alone aren't enough for total collapse. That still begs the question of why complete collapse is necessary for success; it's not like the normie public is going to go "well golly gee, if the towers became 100% rubble we'd be justified in going to war, but only 76% collapsed so we're not quite mad enough." Even if all the planes could do is destroy the top half, that would still be plenty for the false flag to work. So again, there isn't any reason why someone would go through the trouble and risk of planting explosives when all they need is a false flag. It also doesn't explain Flight 93 or the Pentagon hit.

>>610120

>>610172

Please note that Mujaheddin are those that wage Jihad against an invading force so we can have Afghan Mujaheddin fighting Soviets and Iranian Mujahids fighting Iraq which both bear the same name have nothing in common other than the fact that they are Muslim (or their government is using the name of Islam to give weight to their cause). The Afghan Mujaheddin was the collective name of various Afghan tribes/factions fighting against the Communist regime and they received American support before the Soviet intervention.

Al Qaeda was not a transformation of the various Afghan Mujaheddin factions but rather a separate (mostly Arab) terrorist organization with its roots in Wahabi/Salafist movement via Islamic Brotherhood so initial members being mostly Arab students in colleges and universities especially Egyptian. These students were rich and from well connected families like Osama who CIA made the face of Afghan Jihad to garner more recognition and support for the Afghan Mujaheddin.

The Taliban originate from the Afghan refuges studying in madrassas (mostly Wahabi) in Pakistan and have been supported by Pakistan's military. Various Afghan tribes over time have switched alliances sensing the changing winds. Once Taliban began receiving most of the American aid through ISI they became the dominant group as rest of the Mujaheddin groups joined under their banner.

America supported Saddam because they wanted to maintain the status quo in Middle East (and thus oil supply) as Iran had openly stated its intention of exporting its Shiite Revolution. It goes without saying as both Khomeini and the USA viewed each other as enemies. For USA the revolution led to loss of one of their most valued customer of military goods situated in the neighborhood of Soviet Union while to the Revolutionaries USA was a supporter of the Shah and everything wrong associated with him. The Army and Air Force also were seen as supporters of the old regime so were thoroughly purged this along with other reasons (including inability of any Muslim country to conduct maneuver warfare) means that Iran could never conquer whole of Iraq. What the one sided support of Iraq did was prolong the war, fuel Iranian paranoia and lead them down the path of asymmetric warfare and investment in NBC weapons and ballistic missiles to carry them (with support of China, DPRK, India and Pakistan).

>>612104

I can scratch the lead face of a 240 grain jacketed soft point .44 Magnum bullet with a fingernail. I can't scratch the harder steel that makes up a 30 pound empty propane tank with an iron nail. Yet, out of my revolver using medium power rounds, this chunk of lead with a thin copper coat can pierce that empty propane tank in my backyard. I guess with enough force softer things can crush and tear and destroy things harder and stronger than it. Huh.

Unless you think glow in the dark niggers rigged up my empty propane tank and replaced it with a hollow one to fool me years ago when I shot it so I could come online years later to give you wrong information! About my impromptu shooting plinking experience! We're all being fooled!

>>612104

Nigger, a 747 is almost 400 tons, moving at 400 mph. Granted, as an airplane it's pretty flimsy compared to a skyscraper. But that skyscraper had plenty of space between the beams, through which the airplane went quite effortlessly. And you can see the beam damage at impact site.

>>612104

>material hardness is all that matters

I invite you to hold up a single sheet of aluminum foil for protection as I shoot stalks of straw at you at hurricane wind speeds.

>>612119

>>612124

>>612128

With these points in mind, let's take another look at that bird damaged plane up there. Now a very heavy, very fast plane hit some birds and got pretty beat up. It would stand to reason that a very heavy, very fast plane hitting a big steel framed building would get VERY beat up. However, when we look at the images above, we see a largely intact nose section exiting the side of the building. Would it not stand to reason we would see noticeable flattening/destruction of the nose after the collision with the building?

>>612139

You cannot possibly "throw" a block of butter hard enough at a decent knife to destroy it per se, but a block of butter with enough velocity colliding with the broad side of a knife certainly will destroy it.

>>612135

>>612137

>>612139

>planes weren't real

Eh, more likely they were structurally reinforced rammer drones made to look like passenger planes.

>>612250

>>612104

Fast little thing hit big thing and make dent. Congrats, you managed to figure out how the planes destroyed the towers.

A 757 has a average takeoff load of 150,000-200,000 pounds of fuel.

>>612280

>dent tower

>it crumbles at freefall speed into its own footprint

>building 7 wasnt hit but also comes down at freefall into its own footprint

You might want to look into how a vegas casino gets demolished to see your own stupidity.

>>612339

>le freefall speed

You know saying this makes you look like a fucking moron, right? You're literally arguing a completely undefined and unfalsifiable figure. What is "freefall speed"? Do you mean terminal velocity? Because that isn't anywhere near the terminal velocity that an object of the building's mass and density would achieve. Nobody ever redpilled you about how gravity works, huh?

>le its own footprint

Have you ever seen any object collapse? Is it supposed to tip over at a ground level axis and fall to a perfect 90° along the road, with no pieces giving under the weight or falling off? Again, nigger, do you know how gravity works? You're the most retarded person in this thread.

>>607670

I can accept that the 9/11 was a legitimate terrorist attack that by amazing feat of luck and coincidence, equivalent of getting 25 repeating digits at the end of your post number while also claiming these digits in the post, which involved the attackers being masterfully prepared and impossibly lucky at what they did, and the defenders being slacking sacks of shit that didn't do their job, all happening in perfect synchrony just by a fluke of astronomical quantum entanglement spanning the globe. But the way the story is recorded and portrayed throws the wrench into it, making otherwise absurdly sounding conspiracy theories appear more trustworthy than what's being told to the public.

>>607703

Well, you know, real life ain't fiction, it doesn't have to obey logic or reason - only laws of physics, and even then something can inexplicably slip past them.

>>612137

>it is impossible for wing tip to have cut through 14" steel columns

Why the fuck not. Leading edge of an airplane wing is a 40" duraluminium alloy beam with shape optimized for cutting shit (oncoming air). Plus you can clearly see that the damage is mostly to the outer finish panels which are something like 1/16" aluminium, the beams are a little less damaged than that.

>>612135

I'm not seeing any nose exiting. Only an avalanche of debris that one could confuse for an airplane nose on a still shot in 240p.

>>612139

>wings collapse

<momentum doesn't exist

>steel beams strength

<material strength can overpower any amount of momentum

>no debris visible

<a random shot innawoods at the outermost fire spread edge should have the airplane pieces visible

>>612369

You can destroy buildings tougher than that with a (relatively) slowly moving column of water. You think it's impossible to do this sort of damage with a much faster moving much stronger bulk of matter?

>hurr durr top 1/3

Make a playing card house. Topple the top 1/3rd, see if the bottom 2/3rds can stand upright after the top collapses.

>>612352

I would argue that sometimes reality is easier to attack than a lie, for the reason you mentioned in the post next, >>612357. In reality, we lack the ability to observe and accurately collect all data of real events, thus we have incomplete understanding and often different explanations and gaps in data and understanding. Those who hate the truth and try to defame it will use the fact that it is incomplete and that there are explanations that contradict each other to claim that "the truth can't be the truth".

This is why lies are so convincing, because they conveniently flow together. A fiction invented in the mind is perfect, so is a theory. Since they are divorced from reality and are built form the ground up as fabrications, they can be built with all fabrications that magically all fit together so perfectly that its convenient. Reality is reality, what happened is what happened, even if it doesn't make sense, what happens in fiction almost always makes sense because it was created purely logically.

Then again we must beware, in controlled situations we can study completely and thoroughly, a complete understanding that is cohesive and intelligent is a sign of it being real. Complex explanations trying to 'explain away" what is demonstrable fact using pure ration and rationing becomes the tactic of those fighting real science and truth. In complex situations we can't observe and fully understand the opposite is sometimes true, the seemingly most logical and complete explanation is sometimes the most full of shit, and the most gap filled and least logical might be the closest to the truth. We should always follow the facts as we can determine them, not so much what makes logical sense to us at the moment when the information is mostly incomplete and not fully understood.

>>612369

Basic elementary-level understanding of physics is shilling now? I'm pretty sure you're the faggot making a nickel a piece to say this inane shit. Drop an object A of x weight on top of an object B of equivalent material with 2x weight, and object B will have force transferred to it. It'll probably buckle if it's an object constructed of multiple small parts, because it was never intended to have heavy shit dropped on it. I'm sure you've seen fatasses at school sit down fast and break desks in half, right, even though the desk can support three of them if they rest themselves on it gently? Surprise, dipshit, momentum exists.

Go the fuck back to cuckchan or /pol/eddit or Neogaf or whatever other cesspool you crawled out of. The minimum IQ on this board is 70.

>>607614

just like JFK.

same old shit, new narratives

when will it end?

>>612577

as if internal suicide railguns would be more inane than magic star trek hologram CGI planes

>>612577

>implying anyone said that

Are you drunk or is this regular German autism?

>>612722

>yfw obesity rates in several European countries are beginning to surpass the US by and large

>yfw adjusted per capita, the US is less obese than the majority of Europe, except for inner cities full of leftist soy cattle

>mfw 5'9 and 138 lbs with wide hips

>>612733

>138 lbs

>fat

That's 62.5 kg, for 176 cm. Did you miss math class? Also, no, I just have broad hip bones. I have very little body fat content at all.

>second point

I don't honestly understand what you're trying to say there. Are you attempting to cherrypick? Are you implying that other countries having more fat people doesn't count because allegedly the ones in the US are fatter? Are you claiming all the fattest people are in the US? I mean, the world's fattest man is not an American, therefore Americans aren't fat, if we're going to use statistics dishonestly. If you're not here from 4chan then you're probably aware of the whole 'healthism' debate in the UK going on the last few years, about English women literally believing that being 400+ pounds is ideal and being 'healthy' is somehow oppressive.

You make no sense.

>>612741

>Did you miss math class?

I'm talking fat distribution. There's plenty of women with roughly your height/weight and basically all of them have significant amounts of fat stored on hips. If your estradiol/testosterone ratio is fucked you may become a skeleton while still having a fat hips. It's bad the problem lays in your pelvis, otherwise you'd have the possibility to fix it.

>I don't honestly understand what you're trying to say there

Morbid obesity prevalence stats: http://ncdrisc.org/morbid-obesity-population-bubble.html

>>612746

Not skeltal at all, to be frank. I know it's October and all and you're trying to scout for calcium-enriched subhuman invaders lurking in the shadows, but I'm actually pretty muscle-bound. You seem to be projecting tbqh famalamadingleberry.

>>607728

Hey Shlomo, remind 'em about USS Liberty. Oh no no no, false flags most definitely do not exist.

>>607670

Larry got lucky I guess. All those that got sick leave that day also got lucky. Pure coincidence.