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There's no discharge in the war!

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44f31b No.575341

http://www.grantcunningham.com/2006/05/lubrication-101/

So I read through this recently, and it makes some interesting points, particularly the notion of oiling rotary parts while greasing sliding parts. Has anyone experimented with this? If so, can you comment as to the long-term effects of this on the state of your moving parts, compared to just spraying Ballistol on everything? I know CLP is going to be "good enough" for the vast majority of users and guns, particularly modern ones. However, I think it would still be interesting to examine just how much better a dual-lubricating system would be; the returns are most likely diminishing, after all.

3c7d46 No.575349

>>575341

Its how you're supposed to maintain M1's and M14's.


4b8c42 No.575368

>>575341

>oiling rotary parts while greasing sliding parts

The movement has nothing to do with anything, you should only be looking at the temperature range you will work in and the characteristics of your desired lubricant within that range, like pour point, how much it sticks, viscosity, and density


4b8c42 No.575369

Oh and also the (linear/tangential) speed of those moving parts


6873df No.575512

>>575341

God, that picture takes me back…

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https://pastebin.com/u/DoIlooklikeawritefag (menu)

Don't read the last part.


44f31b No.575513

>>575368

My bad, I misread. The author said that grease was for load-bearing parts, many of which happened to be sliding. Anyways, is the rest of the article reasonable?


d5a535 No.575552

I use grease AND oil on everything. Basically, I do this:

1. Starting with a detail-cleaned firearm, apply grease to all manufacturer-recommended lubrication points. Just a thin layer is all you need.

2. Before going to the range, apply oil to all manufacturer-recommended lubrication points, using a very small amount (about 1/2 the amount you would normally apply to a dry firearm).

3. At the range, all dust, grime, and fouling will collect in the oil. Simply wipe the oil out afterward, leaving the grease. If the grease has collected debris or is wearing away, see step 1.

So basically, the firearm is ALWAYS lubed with grease (for long-term lubrication, ensuring that it will function properly after sitting around in-between range trips. However, before the range trip, oil is added (to collect debris and make cleaning easier, as well as to reduce wear from the hundreds of rounds I usually put through it at once.)


d5a535 No.575556

>>575552

Despite this routine, I would like to point out that if you ever need to use a firearm in self-defense, you're probably only going to need to get 3-5 rounds out of the thing. Every firearm I own has proved itself very reliable (otherwise I wouldn't own it) and I am very confident that they could all muster up a few dozen shots even when run totally dry after sitting around for months.

So, yeah OP… diminishing returns. CLP is fine for pretty much everyone who's not police/military.

Oh, and I also use silicone to coat the exterior of most of my firearms for corrosion resistance. I just keep a rag soaked in some Liquid Wrench in a ziploc bag for this purpose.


44f31b No.575572

>>575556

>So, yeah OP… diminishing returns. CLP is fine for pretty much everyone who's not police/military.

Somewhat ironic, as police/military are the biggest users of CLP, and break-free becoming standard issue is what made it so popular in the civvie market.


d5a535 No.575633

>>575572

Yep. I'm not saying that CLP isn't probably capable of keeping a firearm serviceable for them, but the biggest difference I see between their use and a civilian's use is this:

A civilian will only need to use their firearm for defense of their life once. A few thousand training rounds, then 3-5 rounds to save their life, and then it sits in evidence for a year and they start carrying a different gun. A soldier/police officer will have to use the same weapon over and over again to defend their lives and the lives of others, possibly firing many more shots per conflict (in an extended shootout, for example) plus all the training rounds. They should be keeping their firearms impeccable, using the highest-quality lubricants available and performing detailed inspections regularly.

CLP is for use in the field. It's an easy-to-carry, quick way to keep the weapon ticking when you can't maintain it properly.


d5a535 No.575634

It's interesting to note that the author of the article mentioned that motor oils are "generally good" for lubrication purposes, and the only reason he doesn't recommend it is because it has poor corrosion resistance (which my research has found to be only somewhat true) and is allegedly potentially dangerous if it regularly contacts your skin.

I've been a proponent of motor oils as the everyman's gun lube for years, so it's always nice when I see someone say something like that, basically "don't use it… even though it probably works fine."


2db9e0 No.575742

>>575634

I use motor oil and Lucas Red N' Tacky. Haven't had a problem in the decade since I switched. Who do you think has a higher R&D budget, Mobil 1 or whoever the hell makes your gun oil of choice? Which oil do you think has to work harder on a daily basis?


fd4ecd No.575744

>>575341

>particularly the notion of oiling rotary parts while greasing sliding parts.

I can't speak for firearms, but that's how you do it for machinery. This has more to do with oil is better at getting into the depths/spreading from there, whereas grease "coats" the object and you don't end up with excess after the sliding mechanism activates a couple dozen times.


d5a535 No.575751

>>575742

Exactly. I'm certain that the "premium" gun oils like Militec are leaps and bounds above Rem Oil, but a good motor oil is probably just about as good at a tiny fraction of the price.

I chose motor oil for my lubrication protocol (see >>575552) specifically because it's formulated to collect particles, which allows me to basically just wipe the gun down after a range trip without leaving any junk behind.

>>575744

Problem is, with firearms you don't necessarily want your lubricant to spread (for example, into the firing pin channel of your Glock.)

With most machinery, you can sort of slather it on there. For a firearm you're using a much smaller amount, so as it spreads around, the lubrication points are becoming less and less well-protected.


3e7121 No.575773

>>575512

Why does this happen every time a Strelok writes fiction? All's well and good until they run out of ideas, dive headfirst into cheap drama and crazy, then stop entirely.

A-10 writefag went the same way.




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