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Family tree thread Strelok 03/30/18 (Fri) 05:05:06 501158 No.567577

Every gun has a lineage, some more storied than others

I autismed together these pics but I'm sure they can be expanded/modified, I also understand there are many prototypes/early developmental guns along the way but I tried to keep it fairly simple

Strelok 03/30/18 (Fri) 05:25:42 0541fa No.567587

>>567577

The first pic is missing a quickie in a back alley with the StG-44.

Nice concept OP, definitely a lot of potential here.

Strelok 03/30/18 (Fri) 05:45:37 7a0748 No.567590

Gonna be autistic myself, the M1 Carbine is not related to the Garand in any way other than looks.

Strelok 03/30/18 (Fri) 06:32:26 080c7e No.567605

>>567590

So the operating system isn't identical? Okay friend.

Strelok 03/30/18 (Fri) 06:35:43 686652 No.567607

The FG42 was a copy of the Lewis, not the MG42. The 34 used a different operating mechanism, barrel system, fire control group, etc.

Strelok 03/30/18 (Fri) 06:54:52 c8847d No.567609

File: 3553ee43be015fd⋯.gif (1.3 MB, 900x539, 900:539, M1-Carbine-Animation2.gif)

>>567605

It's "identical" as in it uses a rotating bolt cycled by a charging handle, sure. But then you would have to include almost every other semi-auto rifle ever made at that point.

The M1 Carbine doesn't have a gas tube and it doesn't take enblocs. The firing control group is different as well.

Strelok 03/30/18 (Fri) 06:56:59 686652 No.567610

>>567609

It's a superior system, though in coming out later the designers had the benefit of hindsight.

Strelok 03/30/18 (Fri) 07:37:32 f4ea3a No.567617

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>>567577

>Has a family tree picture with the ar-10/15

>doesn’t show the Johnson LMG and Rifle influence

That’s just shoddy work fam

Strelok 03/30/18 (Fri) 07:45:23 accf7a No.567620

>>567617

Could you argue the Krag influenced the Johnson M1941 in terms of its bolt shape?

Strelok 03/30/18 (Fri) 22:52:17 f941d6 No.567788

>>567577

FG wasnt inspired by the 42

Strelok 03/30/18 (Fri) 23:16:26 103359 No.567802

File: d96bff2968fe6d0⋯.png (2.52 MB, 2963x703, 2963:703, ClipboardImage.png)

>>567577

>m1 carbine to AR-10

Okay, now you're just pretending to be retarded

Strelok 03/30/18 (Fri) 23:22:43 103359 No.567803

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>>567802

Wait, there isn't a line connecting the M1 to the AR-10

Strelok 03/31/18 (Sat) 00:01:16 501158 No.567813

>>567788

>>567607

there wasn't supposed to be a line between the two, I fucked it up

Strelok 03/31/18 (Sat) 00:25:34 22b5e8 No.567817

>>567577

Replace m1 caravan with BM-59

Strelok 03/31/18 (Sat) 01:13:46 9d0532 No.567833

>>567577

>AR-15 before AR-10

Waste of dubs and time on /k/

Strelok 03/31/18 (Sat) 02:19:18 cd6943 No.567853

File: 4e101c648920e74⋯.png (388.53 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, serveimage.png)

>>567802

Is… Is that a Bubba'd Johnson?

Strelok 03/31/18 (Sat) 02:39:43 103359 No.567858

>>567853

Yes

>>567833

Are you retarded?

Strelok 03/31/18 (Sat) 17:17:02 39c77e No.568065

>>567858

>AR-10 1956

>AR-15 1963

No but you clearly are

Strelok 04/02/18 (Mon) 00:38:22 69bf2c No.568490

>>567802

oh dear god I thought slightly sporterized johnsons were the only thing that ever happened to them

Strelok 04/02/18 (Mon) 00:41:55 0a6f5b No.568492

File: 7f0a9eb8f5c26a4⋯.png (603.35 KB, 667x615, 667:615, 1465226886378.png)

>>568065

>being this retarded

Have a long hard look at the image, lad

Strelok 04/22/18 (Sun) 22:38:30 e32b2b No.574872

>>567802

God, whoever made that deserves to have their guns confiscated

Strelok 04/22/18 (Sun) 23:38:55 d220c6 No.574892

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Strelok 04/28/18 (Sat) 06:14:35 e8a141 No.576030

>>567577

>the virgin garand family

>small, distant family

>easy wars against weaker enemies

>varieties of mediocre cartridge's

>>574892

>the chad mosin family

>large, tight knit family. Many evenings spent together in combloc tenement passing around grandpas moonshine and telling stories

>many hard fought wars

>one superior cartridge, shared with the chad maxim gun

Strelok 04/28/18 (Sat) 06:35:49 0541fa No.576032

File: 6ee239b156f6618⋯.png (2.36 MB, 4828x2208, 1207:552, Garand's other family with….png)

>>576030

<easy wars against weaker enemies

Kalashnikov based a lot of his work on the Garand action.

Strelok 04/28/18 (Sat) 07:00:55 e8a141 No.576033

>>576032

>it's another "da commies stole america's idea!" episode

Strelok 04/28/18 (Sat) 07:04:09 e8a141 No.576034

>>576033

adding on to this, give proofs. What does he pull from the garand onto the AK?

Strelok 04/28/18 (Sat) 07:28:11 0541fa No.576036

>>576033

<it's another "da commies stole america's idea!" episode

Hardly. There's similarities within the action and bolt system, but the "ideas"–which is to say the execution–are completely different, a semiauto, long-range full power rifle compared to a select-fire, short to medium-range rifle in an intermediate cartridge.

>>576034

>What does he pull from the garand onto the AK?

Primarily the bolt, and a few other things.

http://archive.fo/6jvPL

Strelok 04/28/18 (Sat) 07:29:56 0541fa No.576037

>>576036

Also, John Garand was a leaf. Why would "stealing" (if that was in fact what happened) from him be stealing from the Americans?

Strelok 04/28/18 (Sat) 13:58:10 6c3af3 No.576067

>>576033

Go back to 4chan.

Strelok 04/28/18 (Sat) 22:28:06 1076d7 No.576194

>>576067