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There's no discharge in the war!

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bdcf1b No.557467

I'm writing a story about an ethnically diverse and multicultural group of British citizens overthrowing a nasty evil tyrannical rightwing government to re-establish the lovely democracy and protect global financial interests.

>Guerilla shit like straight blowback sub-guns and Molotov cocktails that can be manufactured with hand tools

<State endorsed manufacturing in proper factories

What can be done inbetween? There has been plenty of discussion here about homemade guns that are essentially one off pieces, and we all know about proper professional manufacturing. I would like this thread to be about fairly organised underground groups like Hezbollah, Golden Dawn, hohol republics and some of the IRAs.

This thread spans groups anywhere from 500 to 250,000 fighting men.

What would you focus on making?

Is artillery worth it?

How would you distribute your kit amongst the men?

How would you balance secrecy with efficiency amongst your distributed factories? (Obviously a cell structure but feel free to add your musings.)

How do you buy decent quantities of chemicals for the manufacture of explosives, propellants and chemical agents without arousing government suspicion? (Like through a front)

Would you bother with armour?

Anti-armour shit for police and some light military vehicles?

How do you fund this shit?

Would you bother with something that's inefficient but has immense propaganda value such as primitive SAMs?

How do you train your men without government interference?

What cool shit can be done with consumer electronics that wouldn't have been possible in the Troubles?

Picking your targets?

Any help in writing this story would be appreciated. We all have a duty to fight white supremacy, anti-Semitism and Fascism!

cfbb92 No.557469

>>557467

>What can be done inbetween?

I think that would be using legitimate businesses as a front. E.g. have a workshop with CNC machines that produces nuts and bolts and whatnot to greater factories, and use it to make some firearm parts inbetween their typical products. Make other parts in a car shop or a similar place. If the firearms have loose tolerances and can be easily assembled, then you just have to make a package of parts with a leaflet containing the instructions to assemble it. Of course it's not foolproof, but methinks it's easier to hide clandestine operations in plain sight than trying to set up a secret factory in a farm or the middle of a forest.

Of course, you should desing the firearm you can produce, so go for something like the Brazilian uru: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=D_dXVwZb33Q Although I think simple bolt action "sniper" rifles would be useful too. After all, you just need to give on to a brave kid so that he can kill the policeman on the corner of the street and run away. Germans were rather creative with shit-tier weapons in the end of ww2, because lacked both resources and time. You should take a look at their VG rifles, like this one: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=0NspqeRzgH4

But like always, there is the problem of ammunition. As far as I know it needs rather specialized machinery that you can't disguise as something else. Still, with bolt action rifles you could at least use matchheads for propellant, or even black powder. Maybe use a ridiculously big calibre to hit the policeman with a dumb and heavy projectile? Because if you are willing to go down on that path, then crossbows would work too. Or more like springbows. You could make them out of bicycle and car parts, and you could use them launch grenades too, especially incindenary ones. Set that policeman on fire, and put the video on social media.


2b63b9 No.557471

Theres stuff in the ark about the fabrication of guns and munitions with common shit, whenever I wake up Ill post stuff


d1d249 No.557474

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bdcf1b No.557480

>>557474

Ahh, you got me.

>>557471

Most of that shit is intended for hobbyists though. I want this thread to be about slightly more advanced manufacturing. Like how the yids used to make submachine guns underground.


d1d249 No.557482

>>557480

There's an entire pdf-filled section dedicated to guerrilla weapon manufacturing on murderkube, go nuts.


053f50 No.557512

Suck a dick commie scum


c937fe No.557516

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>>557467

>Any help in writing this story would be appreciated. We all have a duty to fight white supremacy, anti-Semitism and Fascism!

I've reached a point in my shitposting career that things have gotten too convoluted.

>shitposter pretending to be loftypol

>a real life melburnian greens voter

>spergkraut/gook finally bought a new vpn

personally the former sounds plausible, but we already have the turner diaries tbqh


fbd265 No.557517

>What would you focus on making?

Radios, guns, incendiaries.

>Is artillery worth it?

Not to start with, same question as SAMs. Rocket artillery becomes useful later, when you're ready to start fighting, and even then only a one-off if there's some specific reason for it. It's possible to fight a clandestine war to completion without artillery or SAMs, and any wasted production capacity just isn't worth it.

>How would you distribute your kit amongst the men?

What the fuck dumb question is this, put it in their fucking hands.

>How would you balance secrecy with efficiency amongst your distributed factories?

You can't, you have to take a hit on efficiency in order to have secrecy. It's better to have inefficient factories than none at all.

>How do you buy decent quantities of chemicals for the manufacture of explosives, propellants and chemical agents without arousing government suspicion? (Like through a front)

You don't buy, you make.

>Would you bother with armour?

No. Concealment and cover are the best armor devised, the military may have forgotten that but criminals haven't.

>Anti-armour shit for police and some light military vehicles?

Dude if you're dealing with light military vehicles to START with, you already lost the fucking war. Don't draw that much attention.

>How do you fund this shit?

See below. Sinn Fein engaged in arms smuggling, which is both illegal and helpful to their cause.

>Would you bother with something that's inefficient but has immense propaganda value such as primitive SAMs?

No until you're ready to pull off a fucking coup. You need the government to think of you as common criminals for as long as possible. That's why you should engage in smuggling, theft, scams and other such low tier criminal work… but not drug dealing, or you might start a war with a real criminal faction.

>How do you train your men without government interference?

Martial arts dojo and gym. Add an outdoors obstacle course and you can do 95% of training there. Obviously it would have to be a secure location with as small a class size as possible, because if cops come knocking you don't want them capturing all 100 of your recruits at the same time.

>What cool shit can be done with consumer electronics that wouldn't have been possible in the Troubles?

Radios. Radios and communication in general are a huge fucking help. That's why criminals always get caught, they can be faster than a cop, but they can't be faster than a radio signal warning cops in the next county he's coming.

>We all have a duty to fight white supremacy, anti-Semitism and Fascism!

uwotm8?


f39fb3 No.557550

>>557467

>I'm writing a story about an ethnically diverse and multicultural group of British citizens overthrowing a nasty evil tyrannical rightwing government to re-establish the lovely democracy and protect global financial interests.

Wow, you sure are original. Fuck off.


bdcf1b No.557632

>>557550

>>557516

>>557512

>Actually having autism

It's like you want the feds to come knocking you dumb fucks.


bdcf1b No.557633

>>557517

>What the fuck dumb question is this, put it in their fucking hands.

So you'd transport shit directly? You wouldn't use dead drops or something to minimise risk of police intervention? How would you move shit from the factories to the end users?


1641c4 No.557641

> What will my factory full of chimps produce?

Shit and black-on-black violence. Bad rap music?


ca83bf No.557655

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>>557467

>I'm writing a story about an ethnically diverse and multicultural group of British citizens overthrowing a nasty evil tyrannical rightwing government to re-establish the lovely democracy and protect global financial interests.

Do you actually get arrested for mean/non-kosher posts online in Oz?

I thought it was just a Brit/Kraut thing.

What a horrible doublespeak future we live in.

I'm hoping for more than a larp jerkoff wn book series from you anon.


90ab62 No.557661

>Hey, you with the mill, make these parts!

>Hey, electrician bro, man the electro/chemical barrel production!

>Hey, bro that runs the metal roof company, can you make us flats?

>You pipefitter, can you assemble?

>????

>Glorious merit based democracy!

Hardest part is sourcing small parts (springs, rivets, screws, ect) in bulk and of course ammo.


fbd265 No.557680

>>557633

Ah, so instead of putting the guns in a duffel bag and distributing them in a trusted location, like a friendly house or bar, or just delivering it directly into the hands of operatives…. we should just put things in the hollow of a tree or something.

And then some kid finds it.

Or the cops put a camera on the dead drop for a few weeks and find the identity of hundreds of operatives.


fbd265 No.557681

bwahahhhaah dead drop, u been watching too many spy movies bro


bdcf1b No.557695

>>557681

You realise the IRA used to leave weapon caches for other insurgents, right? The SAS used to watch them.


fbd265 No.557699

>>557695

IRA was a purely hobbyist outfit, they won because at the time were supported by a superpower that had thoroughly infiltrated every level of UK government.

See the UK decided to be tough one last time during the Suez Crisis, when they demanded control over the Suez canal. America wanted control of the canal instead, through islamic proxies in Egypt. America manipulated Canada into intervening and being a sacrificial lamb, basically Canada said "either you drop this UK, or we're going out with daddy America".

The UK didn't know how deep Canadas side deal (PJBD) with America had truly penetrated our way of thinking. The UK didn't know we were basically Americas bitch already, and the UK would lose nothing by calling our bluff and taking Suez… so loss-aversion kicked in and UK dropped the Suez matter. Backstabbing wins again.

After this America was feeling a bit threatened over the burgeoning independence of UK, so the US intelligence community reached out to the taig bastards in America and literally invented The Troubles from whole cloth. Then America used the conflict to keep UK on a short leash during the whole cold war.


0e036c No.557700

>>557633

Distribution networks like the Vietcong. The factory gives their weapons to a few known operatives, they distribute them to other operatives they know, etc. Of course you run the risk of a captured operative squealing but depending on how far down the rung he is he can only point to the next in line. Hopefully somebody up the accusation chain that actually knows where your factory is won't squeal. However, you must realize at that point it is war and you may be a casualty. Spread production knowledge so you aren't the only one on the block making weapons when/if you should be compromised.


1383a0 No.557706

>>557517

>Radios

Also spark-gap generators to jam out the opposing sides radios, they do the same to you though


420e29 No.557707

Plot sounds disgusting.


144179 No.557731

>>557706

Guys on foot and hard lines tend to reduce the effect to you that provided you've got your shit together.


f45f30 No.557733

>>557467

>a story about an ethnically diverse and multicultural group of British citizens overthrowing a nasty evil tyrannical rightwing government to re-establish the lovely democracy and protect global financial interests.

How soon into this story do the internal divisions and sectarian hatred (not even needing all that much aid from state provocateurs) tear this group apart? Granted the more realistic scenario would have happened before the story started, but you can get some dramatic leeway and postpone it until about half way through the first page, any later than that would start to stretch credibility though.


bdcf1b No.557736

>>557733

It's what neurotypicals call 'humour' and 'avoiding getting fucked by bullshit laws'.


f45f30 No.557739

>>557736

Well, aren't you a fucking genius.


b36382 No.557743

>>557736

Was wondering how the autistic replies to what was clearly said in jest were going to pan out, glad I got some entertainment out of it. Sadly you have the option of humor and being yelled at for being a faggot, or you could ask bluntly and get yelled at with accusations of working for the feds. Have fun with that in the future.




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