/k/ - Weapons

Roll over and die.

Emigrate.

In a country of 335 million, only 18 thousand people do 50% of the productive work. And the next <~17.9 thousand do 25% of the work, the next <~17.6 thousand do 12.5, next 17 thousand do 6.25% of the work, and so on… They all die in the nuclear fire, because theyre clustered around targetable centres.

The few thousand that do 3% and 1% of the work pack their bags and get out if they have any intelligence.

Imagine the GDP going from 19 trillion dollars to 60 billion dollars in minutes, the national salary measured in cents a day. America would become a dirt cookie eating banana country instantly.

Nuclear war doesnt bring the quick death everyone is hoping for, it doesnt turn into Fallout…. just a long slow humiliating death where you kill your brother to steal his crust of bread.

So my plan is to blow my brains out and go out remembering a fragile dream that was once called America.

>>545692

Quitter.

>>545692

Watch the first part of this.

>>545706

He's not a quitter.

The first thing you do when chaos is upon your country, is to move out of your country. Obviously, there is cases when you shall remain, especially when it's a problem of occupation. But you have to do what you need to do to preserve your family.

>>545712

Nevermind, I did not see the suicide part…

>>545714

Yup. Ain’t nothing wrong going somewhere else. But giving up is just weak. I have a family. I will kill for their survival.

>>545682

Move to Poland so you can get nuked 100% and die immediately in a nuclear strike by both USA and Russia.

If that's good enough for jews to do it's good enough for you.

>>545710

>retarded hipster faggot cuck saying nukes dont real hoping to cause a shitstorm for views/clicks

Is this suposed to convince me of anything? By the way I used hooktube, how does that make you feel cianigger.

>>545714

Emigration is for most people, Im just too far away from borders to manage it.

>>545717

You might reconsider this.

In fact, George Friedman (specialised in geostrategy) in one of his book about the next century, is placing Poland at the center of europe. So don't be that categorical.

I really think that nuclear war will not extinct us. It will kill a shit tone of us, through diseases and starvation, but not by radiation. Their will be an after.

Let's look at the current stat of Chernobyl. In fact, all the animals are back here. There is a like a huge ecosystem now living here.

So there is only two explanations: This is propaganda, done by the nuclear lobby, to say that nuclear is not that dangerous, or it's truly that nuclear is not that dangerous.

It'll be not, like most of the scientist are saying, a complete earth destruction, with radiation spreaded everywhere that would kill everyone even if you remain in a bunker. I'll certainly be a destruction of big roads/bridges, water sources and food sources with little nukes to make people starve. That's more effective than directly killing them. Obviously, if you're living at the center of your capital… Don't have high hopes…

https://risingsbunkers.com

>What are the plans, in your country, to counter the nuclear damages, or at least at the beggining?

Not be in the country at the time, because entire territory is designated strike zone.

>>545721

I put actual strategy of both Russia and NATO since 1950 over what Friedman says. Sorry.

Poland was in center of europe for the entire time though (^:

And unfortunately short of a coup and executing at least a third of the population there's no hope for improvement or fantasy of becoming a european superpower

>>545692

>muh GDP

Are you really this retarded? Money isn't a magical substance that governs reality and brings great boon to those who pray to the god called GDP. Money is merely a tool you use to convince other humans to do shit for you in the hope that they too will use it to make other humans do shit for them. This is production can skyrocket during a war, as it did in the USA during ww2: the people, the material, and the knowledge were all there, but there wasn't a strong will to force the people to work for a certain goal. It wasn't a question of money.

>>545763

Wrong. Money is a storage of labor. Its a certificate of X work being done, which you can trade for goods or services. Without it the only way to store labor is into a product, reverting to the barter system.

And if you think a drop in GDP has no effect… nigger Russia lost half their GDP in the 90s and is still recovering.

>This is production can skyrocket during a war, as it did in the USA during ww2

That happened because USA borrowed heavily, and credit is a claim on FUTURE labor certificates. Basically "you will be a slave until you work off X labor for me."

Luckily factories in Europe were bombed out, so America could actually work the debt off easily… but still, it had everything to do with money.

>>545766

>Wrong. Money is a storage of labor. Its a certificate of X work being done, which you can trade for goods or services.

not with debt based currency and magical fiat funbucks

>>545763

>This is production can skyrocket during a war, as it did in the USA during ww2: the people, the material, and the knowledge were all there, but there wasn't a strong will to force the people to work for a certain goal. It wasn't a question of money.

Yeah, and most of that was spent blowing up Krauts and Japs. Not a great example. Though I agree with the idea that GDP is a completely arbitrary statistic and not worth investing much thought into, even when adjusted for inflation.

>>545766

>Money is a storage of labor.

>you can trade [money] for goods or services.

One of these is not like the other. One of these is a communist delusion.

>>545763

GDP is relatively accurate of a country's prosperity. When you get GDP adjusted for Purchasing Power Parity, it's pretty accurate. Obviously prosperity will go down significantly in the event of nukes, but a stable foundation tends to make things a lot easier. I'd rather be in a country with a high PPP than one with a low PPP since PPP is a good indicator of how much a country's citizenry are self-sufficient (if it's higher) vs. relying on the government for gibs (if it's lower) to survive pre-nukes.

>>545776

No

>>545818

>real life is vidya

>hurr im gonna fuck a dark one not die of starvation

No

>>545834

Actually scratch the fucking part- probably can't trust them much either unless you're the main provider and there's no one else around.

>>545834

What chinese cartoon is this from? I keep seeing this character pop-up everywhere.

>>545839

I'm more worried about the industrial sectors/chemical processing plants than the nuclear generators. We use some nasty shit for processing electronics and petroleum products. Most chem labs use giant tanks of Chlorine gas that mixes with water to make Hydrochloric acid. Don't even get me started on the gasses used to produce transistors/diodes- some of them are lethal before you can even smell them, and they'll kill you nice and slowly and painfully over the course of minutes or hours with no way to counteract them once they're in your system. Most of those smell like dirty socks by the way.

>>545823

>Money is labor storage and that's a pretty libertarian belief, not commie bullshit.

My point was that money is a store of value, not just labor. Commies have a fundamental misunderstanding about business that labor is somehow the only cost involved. Money can be anything; it can be something inherently valuable, it can be meaningless paper or digital bits representing a value, or somewhere in between (i.e. gold certificates). The mystery nigga I was responding to seems to think that only promissory notes or fiat currency are true "money" and things like gold coins are barter, even if they are officially minted state currency.

>>545868

well i mean, an air duct away from particulate matter does count as filtration i suppose yeah. i thought OP thought he needed some kind of air purifying setup or something.

You'd probably have to look up a bunch of executive orders but what is the policy regarding seemingly abandoned structures in the US, here in the event of a nuclear attack leaving your home waives your property right and it can be used by the government to house refugees or military personnel.

I ask because you could always buy some cheap little land plot out of town and homebrew a subterranean va/k/ation estate.

>>545875

Oh I should mention living off-the-grid is de-facto illegal now in most of the USA. Small towns especially crack down hard on it since it cuts into the town's revenue, and the small town police/judges are even bigger faggots than the large town/small city law enforcement to the point where it might as well be a kangaroo court.

>>545876

well shit, i assumed it would be better than the UK not worse. people are pretty much being subsidized to live off-grid here since it helps the government meet its greenpeace goodboy point quota. a few years back you could buy wall insulation and solar panels at less than cost, didn't and dont have any land to use it on though.

>>545878

Don't get my wrong, we get some subsidies for "green energy" depending on the year, but the end goal is reducing the amount of infrastructure that utilities has to invest in/upgrade to, not to let you get off the grid. Pretty much if the electric companies think they can keep from upgrading for a decade by making everyone use florescent/LED lightbulbs, then yeah they'll make/lobby the change, same with the power companies I use the word "company" but most are like Amtrak: government run businesses encouraging solar panels. If you want to have enough solar panels to not rely on the power company though, or collect rainwater cutting into wastewater's share of the pie, then you're a public menace.

tl;dr- US Government wants people to "go green" to save on infrastructure expansion, but not green enough to not need utilities.

>>545885

Some of the subsidies for solar panels here require you to tie them into the grid directly. So the power company give you credit at a fixed rate [spoiler]while you pay based on usage tiers[\spoiler] and you can't use the power to do anything yourself.

>>545859

I never talked about North Korea.

From my point of view, North Korea is a part of the sino-russian-iranian bloc.

I'm not a fucktard watching BBC screaming in horror in front of Kim.

>You do not need an air filtration system in a nuclear attack, this is a myth.

Thanks you a lot of this precious information.

>>545692

>not celebrating the elimination of illegal (and undeservedly legal) immigrants

>not seeing this as a new beginning

k bruh

>>545692

>not finishing up what the nukes didn't kill

>not fucking up on the second try

>>545876

What about alaska?

>>546289

Alaska is just a bunch of LARPers pretending to be anti-government/small government while secretly sucking federal dick or company dick for the companies indirectly working for the federal government. You can live off-grid, but living conditions off-grid in Alaska where it's possible are really shitty from what I understand considering living conditions on the grid are already sub-par compared to most of the US.

>>545705

Well if you're near an airport or a military base you are pretty much a target during nuclear war so GTFO is a pretty good strategy.