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There's no discharge in the war!

File: f89113e0f21a0fa⋯.png (1.07 MB, 1919x742, 1919:742, irtv.png)

f1ad4a No.539017

Interesting vid here from InRange with 3 "red team" hackers and their perspectives on how malware arguments are pretty much the same shit as gun arguments.

https://www.full30.com/video/4a12e42cca485a1253c540209d6aa298

740fb2 No.539314

File: b3b81b0d3d082cb⋯.png (190.38 KB, 453x435, 151:145, b3b81b0d3d082cbb0ef2b1f481….png)

This shit is a real problem within the security community. Tons of autists wanting to regulate everything with no idea going on. Anarchists try to help them. Its a total shitshow.

To make things worse, while malware and guns are similar, malware is way worse. If you can find a piece of malware doing something interesting, you can replicate it and use it in your own malware. Unlike munitions, which explode upon impact.


e90c74 No.539322

haven't watched the video, but as a computer specialist, I hate malware. I only browse the web with noscript, anymore…

So … full30 embed, when? Oh, wait that would probably require a working rewrite of InfinityNext, or whatever the one-and-a-half man team calls it next time they make an attempt.


d934aa No.539333

File: 0e69bda08650b4f⋯.jpg (51.79 KB, 1076x744, 269:186, 064494205aa9d453160fa0b13f….jpg)

>>539322

You're a "computer specialist" but you don't know how to watch online videos without your browser. Seems like your expertise is just reading JS scare propaganda on /tech/.


d682e4 No.539337

>>539322

>computer specialist

>watches videos and listens to music in browser

You're special all right.


e90c74 No.539341

>>539333

>>539337

Going to the effort of watching a video without using a browser, considering the video is hosted on the web would be more complicated than it's worth.

Or do you mean, watching without leaving 8ch? I have a script installed that auto-plays-on-hover embedded .webms, and that makes hearing how badly the speakers are droning easier because all I have to do is move my mouse, and they stop talking.

Of course it doesn't do that for embedded foreign videos like youtube but still, close the thread, they stop talking. I honestly no idea what you're complaining about; the reason I haven't watched the video, is that it's going to be a bunch of people droning into the camera pretending they have something to say when mostly they don't. Yes, I could watch the video, but I've tried that before and, as grump cat is wont to point out, it was awful.

But this is /k/ … we should be able to embed full30 videos. I mean, we can embed youtube videos, but they don't allow /k/ content so … do you two just have a problem with nice things, or something?


d934aa No.539343

File: 529ba4638bb747e⋯.jpg (65.1 KB, 1199x848, 1199:848, 4c42ffaf25fad1d63a3f5cfd40….jpg)

>>539341

>more complicated than it's worth

It's two clicks for me. Even without my browser setup, it's one copy-paste in a terminal.

>and, as grump cat is wont to point out, it was awful.

How the fuck did you find this website? Go the fuck back to Reddit.


e90c74 No.539346

>>539343

What are you watching the video with, if not your browser?


7d39d3 No.539360

>>539017

Call me when I can buy or make a gun that can not only kill from the other side of the planet but also take control of other people's guns and make them kill whoever as well all while leaving no evidence behind.

>>539322

>>539333

>>539337

>>539341

>>539343

>>539346

Hey faggots nice detour you got there, hope it goes right off a cliff.


e90c74 No.539376

>>539360

> what are smart guns

(granted, they don't fire remotely … yet)

>nice detour you got there

To be fair, we all remembered to sage all the time, so that's something.


f1ad4a No.539427

>>539360

>>539314

Both of these points are addressed in the video. Guys who do break in work need these things in order to help fix flaws in security. Apparently malware does leave a digital trace behind, which is how they know of what hit them.


0b811e No.539570

>>539346

"Computer specialist"

> Not having a terminal always open in the background

>Not managing your whole system from your terminal

>Using file manager

>"Specialist"

Kekest of kek.


95b4e7 No.539588

File: f207f1fc7250c7c⋯.jpeg (33.76 KB, 396x691, 396:691, f207f1fc7250c7c992a128b06….jpeg)

>>539314

Let me just expand on how much I hate the security industry

>Get hired by company due to knowledge of UEFI/EFI

>Get shoved on contractor job

>Hired to work on "persistence"

Some background. The "company" I work for does its work in an offensive manner. It needs a something called a bootkit. Essentially a bootkit is a bot that lives in ring -1 (bios) and can persistently inject itself into the other layers between wipes and reinstalls. They have been chasing this magic fairy bootkit for years. Rootkits have been a thing for a while, but there are only a few good ones (for example, ours is literally a copy paste from crabs and some lines from powerloader for injection, if you know what those are).

>Immediately get shoved onto team

>Half the team is lawyers who are constantly lording over if x/y/z thing is ethical

>I say ethical and not legal, because everything we did was entirely legal

>next forth of the team are diversity hires who don't do shit for the actual project

>they mainly code the C&C server, and the servers that proxy to it, which is an easy as shit job

>I and three other guys are the only ones who do the real heavy lifting

>Start figuring out that you can store shellcode in NVRAM, and start making some good prototypes for the duders

>literally write all the articles on how to replicate this shit for the confluence wiki

>dev group makes a new project on specifically NVRAM

>one of the retarded diversity hires goes to the boss and presents my work as his

>he gets to lead the project

>half way through he promotes me to one of the lead dev positions because he has no idea what he is doing

>eventually a decent prototype is made

>lawyer shoves his cock through the door

>"IS ANY OF THIS ETHICAL!!!!!/?!/!??!?!/??!?!?!?!?!??!"

>mfw you literally just asked us to write a bootkit

>mfw this whole project was unethical from the start

>mfw they scrap the project, and I just wasted like 4 years of my life

The only upside to all of this shit is that the guy who was the head of the project took the fall for everything, and I ended up getting promoted. There is cool shit in this industry, not going to lie, but at the same time infosec/intanl is often misunderstood and mismanaged (at least in my experience).


034bd0 No.539591

>>539588

And you were such a gigantic bichboy to not even speak up. Serve you right, betamax.


270327 No.539597

>>539343

No computer specialist here but I'm curious as to how you watch videos with a terminal. Is it a linux distro only thing?

But yeah, actually on topic a lot of this garbage comes from fear and a lack of education. Too many people watching cyberpunk movies. Last week at my grandma's house she couldn't figure out why Alexa can't control the christmas lights (she isn't even plugged into)

Cyberpunk culture was cool because the writers thought of computers as magic, when in reality they're simplistic but dense with detail. Everything works sort of as expected, but when you don't know the pathways it's scary.

Same thing with guns. Sure, some more journeymen of the /k/ select few know that you can file down a semi-auto into a fully automatic through some magic I barely comprehend, and surely you can do more damage with ammonia and bleach in an empty glowstick than you can with an AR15. People would rather be terrified than learn something.


52e660 No.539609

>>539597

Yes. I'm not sure windows has the functionality, Mac possibly supports it due OSX being a BSD derivative.

>You still need to install software to do it though iirc

>>539588

You mean everything when you have shit tons of obscure legalese to go through? Did the lawyers actually understand tech or were they just memeing it??


270327 No.539610

>>539609

Sounds to me like they used the word 'ethical' to keep getting a paycheck because they knew their job was done there. If there's one thing a lawyer's good at, it's bullshitting.


e273e8 No.539642

File: 2dbfa8dc2f9733b⋯.gif (1.96 MB, 336x252, 4:3, instant waifu.gif)

>>539597

MPV(local files) and mpsyt(jewtube), you can do it in windows too with cygwin IIRC.

Install gentoo


0b811e No.539647

>>539597

If you're on mac/windows, then you should simply kill yourself, and certainly not use these software.

Get out of here. You're hated here.


52e660 No.539671

>>539610

Possibly.i'll wait for 95b4e7 to answer a confirmation though.

>>539642

I've already delved too deep into that end though…

Any source like distros that aren't arch/gentoo derivatives?


d77421 No.539678

File: 306a508b37f4b04⋯.jpg (666.37 KB, 1588x900, 397:225, 7fb9f1bf4f2130b097e5ba0a54….jpg)

>>539591

>And you were such a gigantic bichboy to not even speak up.

What, you don't think I did? That is probably the only reason I still have my job.

>>539609

>You mean everything when you have shit tons of obscure legalese to go through?

Yes. I swear the lawyers have more power than the people who run the operation.

>Did the lawyers actually understand tech or were they just memeing it??

They just memed it the whole time. I have some stories of this if you want.


982c58 No.539682

People on /k/ still watch InRange? Their video quality went down by a lot.


aa48f6 No.539693

>>539682

Yeah, Karl isn't so overbearing and the energy is a lot more casual and fun. Heck off, nigger.


3e3717 No.539764

>>539333

>>539337

Thank you for your demonstration of autism and elitism combined. It shouldn't have been possible, but you made the magic happen.


f1ad4a No.539767

>>539764

You realize that most guides for terminal watching are bretty basic nowdays?

>>539678

Post software lawyer stories.


270327 No.539843

>>539647

When I'm doing work I use Linux distros, they're on all my laptops, but on my main computer I use windows because I like to play Stalker. Which is, something that unfortunately isn't very easy to do on Linux. Not that I like windows, I'm still on 7 at least.


0b811e No.540171

>>539843

I fought people playing stalker were lost slave in syberia, or just a meme.

Whatever, there is wine on linux, that allows you to play to anything. I used to play to starcraft 2 and to eve online on linux, using wine.

If you have a powerful computer, you can game through a vm.


3c3f4e No.540174

File: 151d572a14f80cd⋯.jpg (224.74 KB, 800x555, 160:111, Windows 10.jpg)

>>539843

>I'm still on 7 at least.

Have you considered upgrading to Windows 10?


840c99 No.540193

File: 669e39c068dc318⋯.webm (3.03 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, alex jones on the loose.webm)

>>540171

>Whatever, there is wine on linux, that allows you to play to anything. I used to play to starcraft 2 and to eve online on linux, using wine.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

There's no need to lie, frog. We both know that it doesn't allow you to play anything. If you ever want to play anything obscure that doesn't run great you'll have to screw around with settings and go hunting on google for a while before you get decent results, and even then you will lose performance.


270327 No.540199

>>540171

>I fought people playing stalker were lost slave in syberia, or just a meme.

Better than fallout.

>>540171

>Whatever, there is wine on linux, that allows you to play to anything.

This is why I say it's not very easy to do. The anon below you basically nailed it on the head. Emulation requires very good hardware- which I thankfully have but would rather not spend the watts on when I can dualboot or use 2 machines. Linux is fantastic but it needs a more efficient way of running games. It's very unfortunate that Linux has to play catchup in that regard because I love linux but it's just not practical outside of work for me.

>>540174

Pls no


d934aa No.540201

File: 38eb89469342b7e⋯.png (137.39 KB, 500x375, 4:3, bright slap.png)

>>540199

>WINE

>emulator


840c99 No.540204

>>540199

>Emulation requires very good hardware

Wine isn't emulation. It's a compatibility layer. But you still lose at least 5 to 10% performance in most cases and playing DX10/11 games (aka most games past 2011) is very iffy and unreliable.

Some things work as good as or even Windows with Wine (especially older stuff pre-2008), some things are absolutely awful and will require a lot of time to set up.


d7c741 No.540485

>>540204

>some things are absolutely awful and will require a lot of time to set up.

Then stay and windows, and let yourself be buttfucked by microsoft. They're sending a screenshot of your screen every 30 sec, keeping every single shit you're writing with your computer. And don't feel "safe" with windows 7. In both case, you're fucked. Just fire up wireshark without touching to anything on windows 7. You'll see. I don't even talk about windows 10.

I really played to eve online, and starcraft 2 (i was diamond, touching master but barely). But it was long ago, when I was a kid. At some point, you have to grow up.


e4e168 No.540495

>>539588

>one of the retarded diversity hires goes to the boss and presents my work as his

This happened to me in high school on the robotics team. I spent all night designing a pneumatic system, but had to leave 20 minutes early for a doctor's appointment. When I show up to the next meeting, this black kid who's only on the team 'cause he likes cars is in charge of the pneumatics sub-team, and at the end of the season, he wins an award for the system that I designed. It's not like it was a secret that I designed the thing, either; everybody saw me working on it. That kid was a little shit, too, along with his obnoxious wigger friend.


270327 No.540506

>>540485

If you disable the updates and get an older cracked version of win7 I'm pretty sure there's no telemetry. If you have proof of it absolutely, but so far I've only seen proof of win10

>video games are just for kids

Sorry I don't want to be a fud and get gentoo like I'm a 1960s soviet mathematician. I like my shooters and multiplayer, I like my EXEs, and I definitely like my artificial academy 2 waifus, and I don't want to have to do more work than I already do getting obscure hentai to work.


000000 No.540552

>>539678

As low-tier infosec, please tell me more of what life is like as a patrician.


ae9303 No.540614

>>539671

Slackware.


e10f35 No.540617

>>540506

Wine is an option but recent intel CPU virtualization bugs….. oh gods.


bbf681 No.540660

File: 70d6cddfbfc8fed⋯.png (70.6 KB, 310x558, 5:9, 9f52a22920b58a287806acbfb5….png)

>>540617

>oh gods


e10f35 No.540706

>>540660

Hang on. But the local communist party tells me there are no gods and such thoughts are for reactionary scum!

>Meanwhile in europe the old gods are being replaced my the one and only holiness Muhammad. Enjoy the 72 virgins.


d46964 No.540786

>>540617

>CPU virtualization bugs

What are you talking about? Spectre has nothing to do with how the processor handles virtualization.


e10f35 No.540846

>>540786

I read that one of the conditions was triggered off of a iGPU virtualization function. I might be probably am wrong cause I saw the original shitfest and not the follow up. IIRC meltdown was page table related and spectre was branch prediction related?

I obviously am retarded and don't understand computers well.


30c319 No.540902

>>540786

having *just* heard about spectre, virtual computer hypervisors, such as are all through the azure and amazon-compute clouds, are the bigger risk because, while no it's not about virtualization, it's not affected by virtualization either. So a modern processor with virtualization optimizations could allow a malicious guest PC read the memory from a supposedly-protected PC running on the same host.


30c319 No.540903

>>540846

>I obviously am retarded and don't understand computers well.

Running WINE isn't appreciably going to increase your attack surface or targetability. You should still strive to not run malware for the fun of it, but the IBM microcode holes aren't any reason at all to not play windows games under linux using WINE to fool the games.


fda054 No.540905

>>540903

That isn't my personal reason. I stand by not really using WINE because I play a lot of old games like PSx emulators, stalker, the original fallout, vamp the masquerade, Artificial Academy, etc that just seem like Wine would have extra issues ontop of. Windows, especially the cracked and update-disabled version I have just seems more easy to use. I still use linux on the MAJORITY of my machines, it's just the one I fuck around on happens to be windows.

Now, if windows 7 had some huge glaring issue other than the usual 'it sucks ass' then I might be willing to put up with the presumed incompatibilities and complexities with playing old and high-end new games.

If you want to drop a knowledge bomb on how WINE works, or could prove it's objectively better and does fine with steam games and GOG disks I'd totally consider it because I prefer Linux. That's just my stance right now.


9ca6e8 No.541148

>>539570

>>539322

You know you fucked up if even the french are laughing at you


8898f5 No.541210

>>540902

>tfw the AMD servers that are about to drop have ram encryption performed via the controller that even protects a VM from a compromised hypervisor

>tfw watching intel get absolutely btfo


1a8c5d No.541213

>>539588

Well you obviously don't work for any government agency

>>"IS ANY OF THIS ETHICAL!!!!!/?!/!??!?!/??!?!?!?!?!??!"

>no?

>good job Tyrone you get a raise, Strelok work on being more evil




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