/k/ - Weapons

I thought they were just a novelty until I saw one in action. Great way to hunt small game, though you can't stray too far from the air compressor/pump. Maybe that was just the one I saw, though.

>>531036

There are some pretty good piston guns that don't need a pump, but they are more difficult to shoot and not analogous to a real firearm. Still, you could always invest in a portable air tank. That will keep you shooting all day long, and can fit in a hunting pack.

A: fun to shoot

B: cheap to obtain and maintain

C: can scare intruders

D: good for killing pests

There is literally no reason not to own an airgun. Even if you have access to real guns, just get an airgun and plink targets, or hunt small birds/rodents in your backyard.

My uncle used to have one. Sat in his garden and shot at tin cans every time I was at his place.

One time we were visiting him around Carnival. So obviously I dressed as a cowboy, and my uncle let me take the rifle. We took turns shooting, and it was great. We spent the entire afternoon that way.

Another time I was out shooting at cans again. I had taken a break to get a drink, since it was summer and very hot.

When I returned to the cans I noticed that a bird (a blue tit) had settled not too far away from them. I aimed at it, but decided againsts shooting it. Instead I observed how it jumped from side to side, cleaning it's feathers and eventually took off to flight.

Later that day I drew a picute of it. I still love to watch them to this day.

I am not sure why I didn't pull the trigger back then. Either I was a total fucking pussy, or something else. Dunno.

TL;DR Get your kids an airgun.

>>531049

*steel not metal

>>531049

That's cool as shit. Wonder why more forces don't invest in air rifles for familiarization and basic marksmanship. It'd be a lot cheaper and less dangerous.

>>531039

They've gotten really affordable in the past few years, especially for PCP stuff.

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Diana_Stormrider_Multi_shot_PCP_Air_Rifle/4449/8647

I think this one might even be good to go in Euroland.

>>531054

It will save money, and therefore will never be used because with big budgets bring prestige, never mind effectiveness.

>>531112

That looks nice, the floating barrel in particular. I'd love it if the regulator can be turned up to ~100J. I'd be running it with a hose to a larger tank, no need to have the weight in the gun.

>>531133

I'm definitely thinking of getting one, but it all depends on if they come out with a .25 version. If not, the Marauder it is. The discovery I currently own isn't this fancy, but it is quite nice. I just want something to shoot larger game like coyotes.

What's a good PCP rifle if you live in the UK and don't have a ton of dosh?

>>531245

I trust you have a license for that air compressor…?

>>531267

I have no idea what you're talking about. Please rephrase.

>>531245

Damn, I really wish more eurofags would chime in. Air rifles being the only things they can own easily, you'd think they'd be all over that shit. This should not be a burger-only thread.

>>531112

Fuck it. I just ordered it. Midway USA gave me a discount for my birthday and it came out to $265. That's less than I paid for my discovery and silencer. The only issue is that they're out of stock and I'll have to wait.

>>531388

Congrats on the discount, and on getting the first one off the line. Their initial release is two weeks from now. Be sure to chime in on the feel, the length of pull looks a little short.

The magazine or tray charging is a nice feature. 40gr. CCI slugs would be my first test down the bore…if it looked right on the calipers.

>>531367

At least Poland bro comes through with a neat old pistol.

There is a class of big more airguns, .38 cal and .45 cal being pretty common, strong enough to hunt small deer with. They use paintball co2 tanks, I've wanted to get one, but they run around $1,000 a bit much for such a nitch gun.

Oh, many also come with suppressors since they're not legally firearms.

I want to see more air cartridge system airgun (like the Brocock Air Cartridge System) in the US. Yeah, there are some single-shot rifles out there, but there's just so much potential in them. If you could make a semi-automatic AR replica in an air cartridge system for training or just screwing around, that would be amazing.

Unfortunately, as far as I know, there's almost nothing like that on the market.

>>531367

we prefer being sad in silence

The .177 PCP I own has the tank that's good for 200 shots, then performance declines but it can do another 150 shots fairly well. I imaigne any half-decent .22 PCP should do at least 50 shots, which is more than plenty for hunting.

>>531454 to >>531037

>>531454

Is it a regulated gun?

>>531468

Well it's pretty much illegal. Out of the box it's adjusted to like 500 fps with lightest .177 pellet to comply with 7.5 J maximum muzzle energy federal regulation for unlicensed air guns, of course you crank it up all the way to 1000 with heavy pellets at which point it requires a license and none of the regulating bodies will bother licensing your airgun and it's too much hassle anyway. As the saying goes, it's not a crime if you aren't caught. Given that you can't legally shoot any gun in the city limits (except licensed ranges where you don't need your 1000 fps), your odds of meeting a cop when shooting it are pretty much zero.

>>531039

>I am not sure why I didn't pull the trigger back then

Blue Tits aren't feathery little faggots like magpies, jackdaws, starlings and sparrows are. Nothing wrong with admiring natural beauty and bird watching is relaxing.

>>531447

Do the German oligarchs consider suppressors on airguns to be too shoulder thing that goes up-y?

>>531483

No, like does it have a gas regulator.

>>531039

Because most of the time, animals are more fun to watch than to shoot.

For well adjusted people, to actually enjoy killing they either have to be hungry or the animal has to be an asshole.

If you need something to murder without remorse, there's an infinite number of starlings. Fuck those niggers.

>>531518

Humans are hardwired to like hitting moving targets with thrown projectiles, it's in our biology. Doesn't require a sociopath.

>>531035

I have a Benjamin too. It's technically not legal to shoot real guns where I live, but we have plenty of animals lurking about. Rabbits. rats, squirrels, and birds are all a problem around the backyard garden. More blood for the blood god.

>>531035

Wait, so do airguns actually fire a bullet or do they just shoot air so fast that it can kill small animals at close range?

>>531584

Bullets made of air

Hey /k/ I was thinking of getting a pellet gun this holiday season and can't decide what kind to get. Its a tie between a Crosman Optimus and a Stoeger® X20GT since I'm looking for something cheap that I can get at my Canadian Tire. The Crosman has a lot of reviews and looks reliable while the Stoeger is on sale from like 300 to 180 but is new and looks like it might be made in china or something. What do you think I should do? Get the crosman, stoeger or look for something better outside of Canadian tire?

>>531601

The Stoeger is pretty good, but the thing that you should know about piston guns is that they don't really act like real guns and it takes a bit of learning to shoot them right, even if you can shoot a real rifle like a boss.

>>531518

>starlings

Why would I kill native european birds though? I could understand shooting at Racoons, but a light air rifle won't be enough for those fuckcers.

>>531688

Well, you really shouldn't kill things that aren't causing a problem. What's the power limit in Germany, by the way?

>>531700

7.5 Joule. Everything above requires a gun ownership license. Also the law sees no difference beteween a full auto airgun and a real machinegun.

>>531707

That sounds really fucking gay.

Theres an old 6mm round that had stupidly good ballistics from air rifles i want to get. Cant remember what it was called. But i need a gun license to own an air rifle. Fucking kill me. Honestly considering taking advantage of my dual citizenship and moving to the states.

>>531754

>barely considering it

Is there anything actually good about Australia?

Also, ive seen lever air guns that you pump mutiple times. I used one when i visited the states. Pump 15 times, and it cranked out a .177 at near supersonic speeds, if not a bit over.

>>531756

The bush. Camping and fishing is amazing where i live.people are pretty decent i guess.

>>531757

Yes, that's the only airgun I knew about until well into my teen years; it's how it's usually done around here, other than CO2.

But what you're describing has a cost: the air bladder, I was told by someone who'd broken multiple air-rifles, breaks if you go over nine pumps. You only get a couple dozen after-burner class shots. More than that, and you won't even get military-class nine pump shots.

Air guns in the states aren't taken seriously, from what I personally have seen. If you want to get your kid something that isn't a toy, get them a .22lr

Although airguns are good at yelling at kids over breaking firearms safety, without being too likely to actually shoot someone's eye out.

>>531758

Do you realize how much pussy you'd get with an accent?

>>531707

What is the difference though? If you chamber your automatic air gun for 9 mm it's the same as firearm SMG.

>>531507

Duh. How else do you think it cranks out 200 shots out of 100 bar drop?

>>531390

I think it's already released. They decided to ship it. So, I guess even though it's listed as backorder, they do have some in stock.

>>531601

Go with the stoeger.

>>531770

> If you chamber your automatic air gun for 9 mm it's the same as firearm SMG.

Is this a law question? Because ballistically, I assure you they're not.

>>532250

>Ammunition is cheap, no trips to the range required, no matter how small your yard is, and no neighbors calling the cops on you for shooting.

I would exercise caution here. Some municipalities define airguns as firearms, and projectile discharges are banned in some cities and towns. Check your local laws always.

>>532250

I keep a Gamo Shadow 1000 I've had for at least 15 years by my back door to pop Bufo's when I let the dogs out. I kill at least a couple a week and use an old shovel to toss them over the fence into the asshole neighbors yard.

>>531856

So my rifle was supposed to be delivered today, but I wasn't home, and UPS wouldn't leave it with the office because it was an air rifle. ;_;

>>532682

What pellet weight though? Anyway 1000 fps is about the maximum velocity you want for a pellet gun. They have pretty shitty supersonic aerodynamics and going there makes it fly in all directions except to the target.

>>532152

If you have enough pressure to make it go at 2000 fps then they are the same ballistically as well.

>>532719

You have to look at ballistic coefficient, famalam. Airgun projectiles are made different because twist rates required to stabilize bullets would not work well with pressure loads as they are now. Maybe it can be done, but certainly no airgun today can do it.

>>532738

Large calibre lol airguns use normal bullets, not skirted pellets.

>>531039

Because it's a cute bird and mindlessly killing a bird is pretty retarded, maybe your subconscious took over for a second and said that killing something without reason is retarded.

I have 2 airguns myself, a rifle that's older than I am, might just be Soviet era and a new pistol I got this summer that I plink cans with, think it has around 300FPS. Both .177. Rifle is considerably more accurate but that's pretty obvious comparing velocity and barrel length.

>>531039

>Either I was a total fucking pussy, or something else.

It wasn't food, a pest, or a threat to life. Only a leftist would just randomly kill something that wasn't one of those 3, you did good.

>>532884

>>532870

>>531518

>>531494

>>531039

Dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed.

>>532884

>Only a leftist would just randomly kill something that wasn't one of those 3

I hate to tell you this, but those faggots are generally vegan faggots that care more about animals than anything. And it only gets worse from there AHHHHH

>>532669

Well, lads, she's pretty freaking sweet. Stacking pellets on top of each other like there's no tomorrow. The heft also helps when shooting offhand, but this is a rifle better suited to shooting prone. It lays really nicely. Only thing I don't like is the trigger, but it's adjustable. I just haven't gotten around to that yet.

>>532899

Vegans want to genocide cows because "muh emissions" and groups like peta regularly kill tons of animals and throw their bodies in dumpsters. If you want to find an inhuman monster find the nearest leftist regardless of whether "he" is a tofu slurping faggot or not.

>>532925

Bro, I've heard vegans try and say that we should take care of all cattle, chickens, and other food animals for the rest of their natural lives until they die out, as a way to pay for our sins or some shit. Vegans are fucking crazy, even for leftists. Admittedly, I don't see anything wrong if you're just a vegetarian because you can't handle meat, or even vegan. My sister is one after all. It's the ideological vegans that are the problem. I myself eat mostly vegetables, but you have to use them to surround meat. Meat is what makes me hungry, vegetables are what fill me up.

got a shitty rossi break action 5.5mm/22 a few months back , good shit to shot , comfortable and fuck all recoil , but it couldnt hit a barn from inside said barn because it strays about half a gopnik to the left ,but its so cheap (22 hues for 250 top tier pellets , meanwhile actual 22 is 45 hues for 50 shitty cbc rounds)

>>531049

>heavier than a tokarev

jesus christ how horrifying

.22 Plinkster likes air pretty well.

>>533188

That's cool, but ultimately pretty useless. Even a PCP air rifle can be filled with a hand pump and used for hunting at up to 100m. A full auto air gun is just wind of weird and stupid. Fun, but stupid.

>>533188

.22 Plinkster likes whatever you pay him to like.

>>531039

This was a wholesome way to get into nature strelok.

>>532919

Happy to hear it shoots straight. Have you checked its penetration power with anything? A 1/2in pine board is a solid standard. How's the noise level?

>>534811

It will definitely penetrate that. The noise level is not bad at all. It sounds louder indoors, but outdoors it can't really be discerned if you aren't in its immediate vicinity.

what's a good beginners rifle for hunting rabbits, musk rats, geese ect? looking for something under €180, preferably break action but i have also heard of a semi auto airgun that worked with little CO2 canisters, though it didn't have much firepower and the last 60 or so shots became much less accuratewhich is why i prefer something you can reload on the spot even though that makes it a single shot gun. my a friend of mine had one as well and it was a lot of fun just shooting cans and shit

>>534849

Embed related, and the pinned comment got his rifle up to 34ft/lbs with some modifications!

>>534898

How much power can you use, and how much do you want? Power will always taper off, but gas regulators reduce the issue. There are some decent low-end pellet rifles with twelve shot revolving magazines.

>>535022

I want to be able to take down a canada goose with one clean, well placed kill shot so it won't suffer that much, those things are a plague here. I'm a bit of a newbie to guns and stuff so i'm not sure what kind of power that would take.

>>535062

12ft/lbs is the max power in the UK, and they seem to do well taking rabbits with them. That equates to a .177 7.5gr pellet at 850ft/s, or a 14.3 .22cal pellet at 620ft/s. That Umarex supposedly comes in at 25ft/lbs.

>>535126

that thing is cool, though a little out of my price range, i'm looking for a good beginners rifle under €180

>>535131

Then use this info to find one which suits you.

>>535062

Who thought it was a good idea to export those flying devils? On topic, I found this https://airgunheaven.com/en/sharp-carbine-deluxe-pump-airgun and this https://airgunheaven.com/en/sharp-pomp-kunststof-kolf-45mm both are in your price range but, I don't know how good they are.

>>535359

Specs?

>>535359

>Don't blow your dick off

https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/british-ballistic-pelvic-protector-mtp-surplus/51760

Is that .5" bore?

>>535374

Yes.

>>535361

50 caliber with a 12" barrel. All parts are rated at >200 bar. It has 4 air magazines (5 if counting the midsection) but it has to be reloaded like a musket. I haven't done any formal testing (yet) but I know that it breaks/goes through most wood. I have a chronograph and I'll post the results when I get them.

>>535380

Sidenote: from my calculations it probably hits about 500 J when using 1 chamber accounting for friction.

>>535381

Nice, that's standard handgun power levels. Have you been shooting round balls, or conicals?

>>535384

Round boys

>>535022

So I finally got to watch this whole video. Good stuff, but the comments are ridiculous. Like this isn't expected out of a cheaper air rifle. Seems like guys with expensive guns insecure that a cheaper gun gets 70% of the performance of their $2k guns.

>>535062

Bird skulls are pretty fragile. I've actually taken out doves with a cheesy airsoft pistol multiple times. You don't need much power.

bump

>>532759

1,645 grams? Is that for an anti-tank airgun?

>>546891

Europoors use "," in place of "." in relation to numbers. $1.234,45 makes sense to them while this $1,234.45 doesn't.

>got a shitty spring action pistol for 16,50 €

Can it kill birbs and ratos?

>>553088

Is it pellet or bb?

>>553101

BB. 6mm. 0.2 J strength.

>>553088

If it is above 250 FPS it should so the trick since those things are so weak, small and fragile. It is .177 pellet, correct?

>>553120

No it's .12 G plastic BBs. BBs go 45 m/s and it has a 20 m power range. It's a Smith and Wenson Chiefs Special CS45 pistol model. The gun has engraved "Energie=0.2 J maxi."

What is the best airgun I could get that can take care of squirrels/mice/birds? Would enjoy it to use only ironsights.

here in the people's republic of new jersey theyre the only way youre legally allowed to hunt small game. i was thinking about picking one up, tossing a cheap scope on it, and going to town on some squirrels and rabbits.

>>553136

i have bad eyes, scopes make it a whole lot easier for me to have fun

>>553137

I'm as blind as a mole and I need glasses. Don't come to me with that bullshit.

>>553117

I personally wouldn't. Get a good pellet gun. They're not expensive unless you get into PCP stuff, which is way better, but also a lot more peripheral shit to buy.

>>553139

>whole lot easier for me to have fun

>to have fun

come on spain, i get youre proto-meheeco, but you dont have to act it.

>>553140

Mind telling me a good pellet gun, and the legislation I should follow? Also prices are good too.

>>553142

I don't know the legislation in Spain, but if it's anything like the rest of Europe, you're going to be going with under 12ft.lbs, or even 6ft.lbs. Don't know how much that is in joules off the top of my head, but it's not very much. Should be more than enough for a .177 to get up there in velocity and kill small critters.

>>553135

>cheap scope

Make sure you don't pair it to your spring-piston actoin rifle. Your scope gonna get pulverized promptly. In fact, better don't put your expensive scope on spring-piston rifle, for the same reason. Buy a specialized spring-piston air gun scope. They're a lot tougher than firearm scopes, as they need to be to survive the air gun kick.

Don't even attempt to kill anything with a CO2 gun though. You'll just make an ass out of yourself.

>>553142

So, apparently you have to register your shit, but you can go up to like 18ft.lbs, which is pretty good.

>>553380

>500$

You can get a spring loaded near 1000 FPS one for 200.

The Little Badger is a firearm, that should explain itself.

>>553398

I want to get into small game hunting, is that gun worth it?

>>553436

The little badger is great for small things, I think they make one in 9mm Flobert for garden work.

>>553436

Damned if I know, I don't own any funs.

But as I said, the Little Badger is a firearm, air guns are not. This means cheaper ammo and less regulations on the airgun side.

>>531541

Source on that?

Are there any good bullpup pcp airguns?

Preferably under $500

Since it's an airgun I'm not as anal about the ergos and triggers as I am with my other gun.

>>531049

LIKE I NEED A CO2 GOING OFF IN MY PANTS

>>560614

That's pretty sweet, but I am putting money towards car mods nowadays. Gonna have to wait. But I want to spend on guns so bad

>>560618

It's spring loaded. I have one like it, but it's a modern production.

>>560878

That is a luty design in your picture, as in build it yourself.

>>560614

>not self regulating

pass

>>571746

>Hatsan

Haven't heard good things. Norico and Crosman aren't that much more expensive and they are less shit. I wouldn't really trust roach shit to begin with.

>>531039

I fucking love birds. Just last week there was a frost, as winter is petering out finally. I saw a whole flock of cardinals in my yard. My guess is that they were getting ready to pair up.

There is also a pair of red tailed hawks that have moved in a couple years ago. Any time you go outside you can hear them screeching and chirping.

>>571819

Dzięki.

>>571010

>but I would be the slave of co2 canisters

a 12 gram co2 canister costs 1 PLN, you could turn in the empty ones for scrap (^:

>>572942

I was talking rifles. Those cost 25+ and start working like shit once half canister is empty - shit for precision shooting.

CO2 is for plinking only - shooting for the sake of shooting. I want to be precise and strong. That's why I'll probably buy a break action, or a bottom lever.

>>531483

> to comply with 7.5 J

wew, in Poland maximum unlicensed energy is 17J

>>532440

How are gamo airguns in general?

I'm curious about Gamo Whisper

>>573674

Do any of you faggots actually own guns?

>>573674

And even after 17J you just come to the police, they register your airgun and off you go.

Illegal to shoot animals and pests though, but only if you are caught.

>>573689

I cannot own a gun afaik, as I'm a foreign resident, but poles can own guns if they want to. Can't use in self defense, except for intimidation and as a blunt weapon, but Poland doesn't have a nigger problem, and is actually 2nd safest country in the world, so there's no big need.

Government considers easing gun laws, but frankly, they don't need to, unless they plan to go to war.

>>573689

Have you you forgotten which thread you're in?

>>573778

>Can't use in self defense

You can, unless you demolish half the block in a self-defense situation.

Attorney (Prokuratura) will start a case against you for overstepping boundaries of necessary force that the court will throw away 86% of the time.

>>573778

>Government considers easing gun laws

Pablo cookies made a proposal that ended with

<ooga booga Poles will murder each other

<muh wild west people from Poland came to wild west, not so much the other way around

<What if people start killing politicians too A vast improvement in political life, though CIA/BND/Mossad might dislike their assets being irreperably damaged.

>>573804

I would imagine if you have permit for sport shooting, you would get some shit for shooting a nigger in a non-sportsmanlike way.

Anyway, even considering that 14% of critical failure is still too high, I can't own a gun, so I'll stick to wiatrowka.

>>574028

> I can't own a gun, so I'll stick to wiatrowka.

if ukr*inian teens can smuggle in an AK-630 you probably can make do with a glock, or even a Pietta/Uberti cattleman replica.

>>574034

Dzięki Bogu że nie jestem chochłem.

By the way, any shop you can recommend? I'm planning to buy on sztucer.pl because they have Norica I want, but maybe (likely) there's a better option out there, that I don't know.

>>574112

Militaria.pl is the biggest and they have alright prices, at the moment best deals on "Umarex legends" series of airgun replicas of iconic weapons.

Try local stores though, shouldn't be ex-SB/Fuddlore that's shooting ranges and clubs

Visiting Czech Republic might be a good idea.

Are Gamo 10-shot break action any good? From what I've seen, their magazine looks flimsy as hell. But having 10 shot break action sounds like a very good option - with two 10 round magazines you can have incredible fun at range, comparing to normal break action. Sadly their pistons are so powerful, they can only be 4.5mm without breaking 17J limit for unregistered airguns.

>>560915

What does that mean? I'm considering one but I'm technically retarded.

>>531584

the most common caliber is .177 air (simple air bullet) and I also like .22 CO2 hollow point. (hollowpoints are created by special barrel geometry, which causes the air to spin in the shape of a donut.)

>>553117

you can shoot your friends with 0.2 Joule and just get angry looks, just be carefull about "sensitive zones".

The only thing you can kill with that is a bug.

My 7,5 Joule .177 pellet goes through 1cm of paper an burries itself in wood after that. (about 0,5 cm deep)

So I estimate around 3-4 Joule (pellet) to reliably kill small animals. You can pierce skin from 0,5 Joule BB and higher though, so be carefull.

However, dont be a fag. There must be a reason for killing.

>>573778

A guy I know went to Poland and some polacks stole his kidney.

He was quite lucky to survive as they didnt even close the wound.

I question the safety of Poland. However, Germany is doing pretty well to become a less safe country.

I know a guy whos ~100k€ car got stolen, some guy was stabed in the eye by his friend on the trainstation.

I have witnessed several drug deals without being intrested in that.

But at least the niggers arent stealing :^) The gov does the job for them.

this reminds me of another airgun thread where I asked if airguns shoot bullets with air or if they just shoot like balls of air that kill small animals kek

>>584305

I think it's the same thread, thanks for bumping. >>531584

>>560903

That would be illegal in Poland. (I'm the strelok who posted that)

>>584299

Thanks Kraut, i was looking forward to someone illustrating the practical meaning of Joules!

>>531035

Is there an infographic laying out the bargains for each ft.-lbs. level? I spent a couple of hours recently looking into them, and wow is there a lack of straight-forward info on airguns. I looked at pyramid air - they even have an article admitting the most important stat is ft-lbs (joules is the communist version of ft-lbs) - but they don't even list it for all rifles. I disagree a bit, I think that equally important is the drop off in ft-lbs of subsequent shots.

I like the Sam Yang (apparently now called Seneca) Dragon Claw. It shoots a massive slug, but it's PCP, which is downright confusing. And it's $600 iirc, which is a crazy amount of money to spend on air, if you can buy real guns where you live.

So I'm wondering, at <$100, what should I buy? At <$200? At <$300? At <$500? At <$700? At <$1000?

>>584354

Nothing is illegal, so long as you don't get caught.

>>584354

Airguns are illegal in Poland? It shoots .32 caliber lead balls at 32acp velocities if I recall.

I do not have experience with the heavy calibur air guns but I thought I would share this well-documented yet less known historical reference about a high calibur repeating air gun from the 18th century since I do not have the time to read this entire thread to see if it got mentioned already.

It is also good know this to help win an argument about gun laws and to dismantle the "they only had flintlocks back then" argument by gun control advocates.

http://warfarehistorynetwork.com/daily/military-history/lewis-and-clarks-girandoni-air-rifle/

>>584616

You can buy without registration any airgun up to 17 Joules, firearms require a permit unless they're muzzleloaders, or firearms that doesn't utilize cartridges and was designed no later than 1885

the only funs worth owning considering there's more police than licensed firearms owners

>>560878

Does this work? Since no one seems to have seen a video of it in action I'm a bit skeptical. DIY instructions here: http://thehomegunsmith.com/CaselmanAPMG.shtml

>>584882

Bardzo mi przykro panie mateuszu, ale ja to nawet wiatrówki nie miałem.

>>571819

>Personally, I'd buy the shit out of blowback p08 if I could.

Don't.

>mag release is as uncomfortable in it as in real P08

>using cleaning capsules is a nightmare, because it won't properly cock without BB's in a mag so it looks like this

<load cleaning capsule

<half cock it

<remove the mag halfway

<finish cocking it

<fire once

<repeat until capsule is empty

If you want a primarily aesthetically pleasing replica, get C96 (technically M712 Schnellfeuer) instead.

>>584643

Here's a book by some dedicated enthusiasts detailing the measurements of each of the components, for the purpose of constructing a replica Girandoni:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/162870851/The-Construction-and-Operation-of-the-Air-Gun-Vol-1

>>531039

No point, it's not a nuisance animal, then its live and let live.

>>584655

What about .45 colt and .38 special conversion cylinders for Uberti? Will I be able to get one? And if I will, is there any point? How can I get ammo for it?

They look relatively easy to install, the only problem is that they cost 1000+zł, and getting ammo ofc.

How hard is it to get certified as a sports shooter? And for white non-citizens? also, which arms are permitted for hunting? Any chance of getting some CZ bolt action in 5.56? Antoni, hlep.

>>585930

Just realized it's off topic as fuck. But thread is full of Antoni anyway.

>>531049

>Heavier than a Tokarev

Christ!

>>532759

Chode pellets. Nice.

Could anyone recommend a good .177 rifle ? Interested in getting one for some backyard target practice.

bump

Bump of mercy.

>>531758

Plenty of wilderness left in the US, though admittedly not as much as Australia. Prettier though, less desert and more mountains and forests.

>>532250

I stole beer from Kieth Warren once. Well he was probably sleeping at home, but it was his camp.

>>531035

So almost a year later and I'm spending more on airguns than I should. How the fuck do I deal with this feel?

>>599924

There's nothing wrong with airguns. It's just a type of gun that uses pre-compressed gas instead of combustion compressed gas. Using air for the purpose limits maximum velocity but otherwise airguns are perfectly good weapons.

>>600022

No, air guns are great. I just seem to be obsessed recently. I have guns that can do many more things, but I find myself gravitating to air guns more and more. They're just an addictive thing, more than regular guns.

>>600071

I have the same problem with electric powered machines. Too bad I can't exactly afford those right now.

>>587145

>Everything Gamo or Norica.

How are Walthers quality-wise?

>>600211

Not bad some models (rotex/terrus) are clearly produced as cheaply as possible but are still good quality the more expensive spring models are very heavy but well made. All are accurate and reliable.

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