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No.

You're better off doing this manually, bud.

Hypno will only get you so far and you'll be limited by the files.

bruh. tulpas arent real. its called multiple personality disorder. these people have legit brain damage.

3M9's (UR$3 F3M4|3 T4K30V3R is said to create one that ends up controlling your body. A female one. CIIW, a tulpa is only in your mind, right?

>>54317

I would strongly suggest getting some healthy hobbies instead if you're truly that bored and lonely, >>54330 is 100% correct

>>54317

Okay, so I am just spitballing here, but let's assume tulpas are real and not everyone who has one is mentally ill from a clinical perspective - just for the sake of avoiding a debate.

I would like to ask whether it might be possible to create the perfect domme inside of our head. Many of us here wish to have domme who controls or can influence us via mindcontrol/hypnosis. A tulpa would be exactly there - inside of our heads. From what I understand they are said to have a mind of their own and can interact with the creator on various levels and intensities. So under the assumption, they are indeed a self conscious being, and have access to our memories and so forth, shouldn't a tulpa actually be able to be the perfect domme as it knows all of our little weaknesses and desires?

So why not create a tulpa with a dominant/hypnotic personality? Under the assumption it would not differ from what you like to create (which they tend to do from what I just read) a tulpa could be desirable and frightening at the same time. In pure theory it could be a worthwhile experiment, but also the beginning of a true nightmare… or just a waste of time…

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Tulpas are not real. Stop being so stupid

How weak do you have to be to want to create a companion within you? Other people complain about voices and the chaos they bring, but you are actively looking for another voice? Stick to one voice. I've tried multiple at one time, tried making a tulpa, succeeded. Splintered my mind into multiple voices to see how it felt, in the end one solid voice was enough, is enough. Do it out of curiosity, go for it, but don't do it for companionship or whatever, it gets hard to let go.

>>54512

>Tulpas are not real. Stop being so stupid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Milligan

Humans already have a helper, it's called our unconscious. With hypnosis a person can get into a better position of contact with that side of ourselves and lives can change rather dramatically because of it. This "Tulpa" concept is more along the lines of a split-personality than just getting in touch with our unconscious which for the vast majority of Humans has been there with us every single second of our lives and would love to come out and play sometime.

>>54634

The problem is … The official we5t3rn neuroscience does not know what "I", "personality", "conscious" or "thinking" is. Let alone "subconscious" or "split-personality" :D

>>54628

David Bowie is a better case-in-point

>>54659

>David Bowie is a better case-in-point

How come Bowie&Ziggy is a better example of how tulpas operate, than a medically confirmed case of Billy MIlligan with a dozen of independently living tulpas?

>>54671

tulpa = multiple personality disorder?

These discussions go down the same rabbit hole every damn time.

>>54678

>tulpa = multiple personality disorder?

I take it the difference is the degree of independency. In the case of Milligan all personalities were completely independent, spoke different languages, played different musical instruments, had different age, gender and education.

>"Tulpas are personality disorder, pls don't do that"

>On a board where everyone wants to be a cock-sucking sissy faggot with a single digit IQ

>Tulpas aren't real

The people who proclaim this are the same people who say hypnosis isn't real… and if that's the case - I hear many asking: WTF are they doing here on a hypnosis board?? …Oh - don't be naive - you know! …These kinds of people are here only to vomit venom - to distract themselves from the shallow emptiness of their own meaningless lives by way of abusing others as they've been abused themselves… an endeavor with ever diminishing returns, may I might add… Whereupon I prescribe they do some soul-searching - lest they commit suicide inadvertently or perhaps even directly…

…I mean, for fuck's sake people! Are some of you actually attempting to sell shit as gold here?? Do you think identity is real?? Or is that something you pretend doesn't exist either??

There is the physical realm - and there is the imaginary realm… And BOTH are as real as a fuck from your ex-wife.

Think about man-made laws, religions, the very concept of concept itself… I fucking dare anyone to walk up to a judge in a courtroom and tell them that their laws aren't real! You KNOW what will happen - and you'll get a fucking wake up call real fast if you think otherwise.

Likewise, go up and tell a Christian that Jesus isn't real - you'll get some blow-back reeeeal fast that way too. It might even degrade to physical violence if they're especially zealous and you match their zealotry…

"Real" is "Reality" and is 100% based within experience - and it sure as hell doesn't mean it's limited to physical objects! If that were the case, nobody would be talking about Slavery, Freedom, Monarchies, Oligarchies, Aliens, Demons, Angels, Article 13 Section 1, or (literally) ANYTHING because it is literally impossible to separate the thought of something from the experience of that same something!!

This is fucking Life 101 shit here - and it fucking grinds my gears (metaphorically) to no end that so many fucking people are so fucking confused that they think their thoughts aren't real but that their government is… It's like, fucking really?? REALLY???

…On a different note: I agree with many of the warnings. The imaginary realm is powerful - and shouldn't be messed with haphazardly… But you're by far worse off than a schizophrenic with multiple personalities if you actually believe that the imaginary realm isn't real or doesn't exist or doesn't play a vital role in the interaction with the physical realm…

At least someone with multiple personalities can be reasoned with… As someone with NO personalities is beyond reason, and is infinitely crazier due to their delusions of non-existence.

>>54920

I believe that hypnosis is real. But I also think Tulpas are a total crock of shit. You can't create one. It's stupid to even try.

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I love this thread, simply because:

1] No one reads a single post

2] No one has ever replied to a single post.

It's pure cancer, in its purest form ever.

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As far as Tulpas go…

If you're truly interested in such things (i.e. the concept deeply resonates with you), you'll do it regardless of what anyone here says - positives OR negatives… If that's the case, let a lurking hypno-fag give some subjectively useful advice that may or may not be helpful to you:

(*) This is INTENSE shit - we're talking about meaning of life, spiritual purpose, order of the universe type stuff here.

If you're just bored? Go play a video game! Less consequences! …But if you're SUICIDALLY bored? This is up your alley! - as existence itself will make a lot more sense to you when you succeed - and there is a REASON why Buddhists developed the techniques and concept in the first place… And hopefully, I haven't said too much where a *SPOILER ALERT* warning is required…

(*) Pretending is a gateway into manifestation.

Everything starts out in the imaginary realm before it can manifest in the physical realm as an experience. You know the old adage: "Fake it until you make it" - right? There's a reason for this…

(*) Faith creates, destroys, and maintains.

An act of faith, mo matter how small, is an act of creation and destruction - and as one reality recedes a new reality will take it's place… And believe it or not - pretending is an act of faith.

EXAMPLE: I eat junk food too much and I'm physically unhealthy… My faith is invested in this image of self. There is no way I can stop while the inertia of my faith is invested in it… However, I find I'm thinking A LOT about eating healthy ("pretending" - if you will)… and I'm eventually able to squeeze an apple in there once a day alongside my bag of chips - an act of faith that is small, but is an investment in a new reality where I eat healthy… Over time, this small act gathers inertia, and I find I am now able to refuse the bag of chips entirely as I eat the apple… and then my reality begins changing in earnest.

…Poetically enough, this is true with hypnosis too - and is the reason why it works. Repeatedly listening to hypnosis is an act of faith - otherwise, why would you be doing it?? One's subconscious picks up on this fact, and whatever is being programmed will begin to be experienced.

(*) Your Tulpa is you - but it also isn't you.

I would suggest having a greater comprehension of interpersonal relationships before endeavoring - but I also must admit that it will teach you A LOT about interpersonal relationships simply by endeavoring… Be nice / aware of feelings - be honest / truthful about agendas - and above all, act with integrity… This is good for ALL relationships - but it is everso important for a relationship whose boundaries are less defined than physical ones.

(*) Be willing - to admit the truth to yourself and to face whatever needs to be faced.

As one develops their Tulpa, their shadowside will become increasingly apparent - and what one finds may be exactly what one was avoiding in the first place… And what transpires afterword may be exactly what one feared and exactly what one hoped for… So - ride that wave - surf through the chaos - and the parts of you that make it to the beach are the parts of you that wanted to be there in the first place… And… acceptance of this helps to cope with the loss of the parts of yourself that didn't make it.

…Also, and likewise ironic, you might find yourself more complete and whole than beforehand…

(*) "Once you pop, you can't stop…"

This isn't a part-time hobby. If you're going to open up a metaphorical version of Pandora's Box, be prepared to have EVERYTHING change FOREVER - which is why I go back to the first bit of advice I gave. This is DEEP SHIT that should NOT be started haphazardly or with "lukewarm" faith… NOT because it won't work, but because IT WILL and the result will be traumatic for all parties involved…

…But even with that said, it is possible to start weak and finish strong… I would just highly suggest to have a strong start if at all possible because it's an easier and more enjoyable journey… But in the end, you'll get the journey you need and not the journey you want - and it's the reason you're here anyway…

…isn't it?

tulpas are not real.

hypnosis is not real.

your argument is invalid.

can either be a fetish? sure. but they arent real. no hypnosis has ever effected me no matter how bad i want it to.

>>54924

>I believe that hypnosis is real. But I also think Tulpas are a total crock of shit. You can't create one. It's stupid to even try.

Tulpas are real/unreal - parallel - hypnosis is real/unreal.

i.e. Nobody can be hypnotized if it isn't real for them - and no one can have a Tulpa if it isn't real for them.

Your thoughts are real - and thus, since you THINK Tulpas are not real, they are not real for you, and never will be. You will never experience one, because they are not real for you, because your thoughts are real, and you think Tulpas are not real, thus they are not a part of your reality…

And do you have a Tulpa right now?

…No? Of course you don't - that would be insane, wouldn't it? Your faith is invested elsewhere, and you obviously have no desire to challenge the inertia of your own faith, so you'll continue to experience your reality as it is.

On the counter-side to that, hypnosis is real for you - and thus, you've experienced it… or at the very least, believe with repeated listening that you can influence your subconscious mind without your conscious participation…

…And yet, there are people who cannot be hypnotized… For them, hypnosis is not real… does that mean hypnosis isn't real for you as well? Or does it just mean it isn't part of their reality - despite it being a part of your own?

FOOD FOR THOUGHT:

What if you were hypnotized to believe in Tulpas? ;-P

>>54929

>Substance X does not have the intended effect on me. Therefore it's a hoax.

Hypnosis is a medical fact. You wanting it to work, is a good start, but no guarantee of it ever working on you. It's not that easy. If it was, there would be no need for psychologists.

Let's suppose you're fighting a fear. Just because you find the fear inconvenient and want to get rid of it, it won't magically disappear, and maybe it never will. But to use that as an argument against fighting irrational fears is not helpful.

>>54929

Self-fulfilling prophecies are self-fulfilling.

EXAMPLE: I really want to experience a true intimate romantic connection with one special woman who totally gets me… I date a woman, but she never gets me… we break up - and I meet a new woman. We date, we even move in together, but she never gets me either, and we break up… I do this several more times, and each time she never gets me. I really want to experience someone who truly gets me, but such a thing isn't real because I've tried it many times. And thus, no woman can ever get me - despite me really wanting to experience that… and this is despite me viewing other people "getting" each other in ways that I want to experience for myself.

I ask you:

Where is your faith invested?? In these things being unreal??

If you aren't making overtures to change this (i.e. being WILLING to move into unknowing), then you'll never experience anything other than what you already know to be real.

…i.e. (drawing from the EXAMPLE) you'll never experience someone who gets you no matter how many women you date because you already know that women cannot get you.

If you aren't willing to be unknowing, then you already know everything you'll ever know… And your reality will be small indeed.

>>54937

>this proves tulpas are real and I too should fragment my personality

Not "should", but "can", and rather "should not".

>>54926

>And believe it or not - pretending is an act of faith.

What you wrote resonates with this: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread-General-hypnosis-discussion?pid=30436#pid30436

>>54926

Like Ra quoted you post in that thread.

>>54319

> you'll be limited by the files

That can be good or bad, depending on the person. Some of the more impressive tulpa disasters come from people doing idiotic things in the first place, which a well-made file would prevent, but a file can only give you what was written into it, so it's less personal than something you make yourself.

This is close to the goal of Project "Wolfgirl" that got started at >>42837 so of course I'm very interested.

>>54336

Got a transcript for that file?

>>54498

> create the perfect domme inside of our head. Many of us here wish to have domme who controls or can influence us via mindcontrol/hypnosis.

I think I have such a goal, although I'm not sure if the companion I seek to produce is really a tulpa or something related.

> So why not create a tulpa with a dominant/hypnotic personality?

The biggest issue here is whether your "inner domme" can send you into trance without coming with you. Or whether that really matters.

> also the beginning of a true nightmare…

I've read the stories…

>>54505

Like that one. "The Giant Disaster" as I like to call it. The truly amazing fuck-ups seem very rare, but the caps get spread far and wide.

>>54610

> multiple voices to see how it felt

I've been multiple voices for as long as I can remember. They're all "me" though.

>>54926

Thanks. While "Wolfgirl" may or may not really be a tulpa, you've given me some more to think about.

>>56108

About Curse Female Takeover.

.Although YMMV after listening for more than two weeks.I didn't find any voices in my head.

The postings on WMM which started the the myth of CFT are hardly believable.Then people ran with those implausible stories.Making posts with different colors….using different colors in the same post etc.Nowhere in the file it says you have to use two/three different colors to denote voices and why should you,…lol

There are allegations that it creates a completely separate personality inside ur head.Apparently that new personality is demonic.The file clearly mentions a part of your current personality will break off so it can't be that different from current you.

To hear voices,you need to know or imagine voices of 10 year old girl.I don't know any 10 year old girl.So,it is pretty possible thats why I am not hearing voices and nobody is whispering to me.

That being said,it is pretty okay file and can work in a positive way.I am already trans and it helped me a lot to be positive like eating right and starting exercise again.

In WMM there are other posters on whom the file failed to work even after a year.There are some experiences which are positive,due to listener being trans already.But since demons and negativity sells,beware of the stories you believe.

>>56114

> About Curse Female Takeover.

I don't want to use it. I want to analyze it, which is why I ask for a transcript.

> But since demons and negativity sells,beware of the stories you believe.

This would be why the rare tulpa disasters are so well known, yes. The actual incidents are rare - I can count the ones I know on one hand - but the caps of the stories get spread far and wide. I've lost count of how many times I've seen "The Giant Disaster" reposted.

Instead of trying to create another personality in your head, why dont you step away from your computer jerk-off desk, get out into the real world and interact with the personalities of other humans.

PS: Tulpas are bullshit, you cant create one.

>>56185

>Tulpas are bullshit, you cant create one.

What do you base your opinion on?

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