/hypno/ - Hypnochan

>>44095

idk personally, try starting with nootropics as a google

people think that drugs which knock you out seem to be good but i think hypnosis is something which engages the brain, so needs the opposite

country's law on drugs can vary though so be careful

not a drug, but during the refractory period after ejaculation chemicals are released by your brain that make you feel sleepy, so it's a good time to trance

>>44167

>do crack and memory altering drugs

>>44167

Where did you find this chart and are there more like it?

>>44167

Very interesting. I'd love to hear reports back from people who have tried this or something similar.

I don't know where you found this "cookbook" but these molecules seems extremely powerful for this purpose, especially when you combine them.

If you want to tell us where you found this book, and where we could find it too, I would appreciate it very much.

>>44167

Table looks amazing. Until you take a look at the safety data sheet.

http://www.apo11osci3ntific.co.uk/downloads/msds/BIC0119_msds.pdf

To avoid linking directly to their site fix the spelling of the domain name :)

D-Cycloserine

Skin Irritant

Eye Irritant

Respiratory Irritant

Doesn't strike me as being much fun to take orally.

>>44243

then how else can you take D-Cycloserine? i was thinking to buy off of new mind but i dont know if its a good idea anymore

google any of those things and add reddit, you'll get reports of what they do and how to take them.. Haven't found any for our specific application, but this is really interesting.

>>44249

They only happen if you inhale,get it in eyes or on skin i'd google how to take it but you would probably just put gloves on and put it into a capsule and then swallow it

>>44095

Modafinil

Welp I ordered some of that stuff from the picture, will report back. Now I just need a way to measure 15mg of a thing :)

I have been having problems going "deep" since i started with hypno, I think i was able to do it like 3 times in 5 years… But most of the time it feels I can only go to a certain depth and no further. I have been experimenting with other easily attainable substances like alcohol and weed, but so far it hasn't really helped.

>>44360

where did you buy your stuff from because only the newmind link was works for me

>>44360

Even jewelers milligram scales (which you can get off amazon) aren't accurate enough to be comfortable for measuring 15mg out when dosing is sensible. You need to look into volumetric dosing at that scale where you dissolve a substance uniformly in solution and measure a larger quantity of that out.

See the pyschonautwiki for information about harm reduction.

If you decide to be stupid and avoid volumetric dosing then be sure to place a 10g weight on the

scale because these scales are more consistent in the middle of their range.

Be careful of small droughts which add several mg of pressure.

Don't take random drugs for fetish reasons just because some guy on a chinese cartoon site said it would be fun.

>>44472

Very sensible advice. I'm looking into how to do it properly, will do my best not to yolo it.

>>44472

sensible should say sensitive

drought should say draught/draft

Most of the time the things we listen to aren't things that we'd want to actually work all the way, and since there's a lot of pretending to be hypnotised going on, we can stop any really negative consequences.

But if, for example, you listen to a file that says to go out in public crossdressed against your will whilst under the influence, you may well do it against your own knowledge of what is emotionally sustainable for you, and end up with a distressing, un-sexy experience of hurting yourself with your own compulsive behavior.

Half-passing out whilst people whisper in your ears on multiple audio layers is a great way to nudge yourself closer to audible hallucinations. Files talk about "my words will echo in your ears" but in reality I find it's more like "words in general echo in your ears" similar to if you're extremely sleep deprived or just anxious; yes, you'll hear the tone of the voice occasionally, but among a mishmash of chaotic thought, a few words at a time, blurring into other things in a distracting and unhealthy collage. It affects my ability to function like a normal human negatively and I always regret it. Meditation sometimes helps manage moments of panic but it doesn't make me feel good, and I find I end up needing to abstain from drugs and hypno and get some sleep plus some general self care activities before I start to feel well-adjusted again.

My experience is mostly limited to abusive doses of alcohol, weed, and caffeine though. If you start mixing drugs with your jerk off sessions then it's easy to end up with a problem because every time your thoughts turn sexual it makes you want to do more drugs.

>>44363

Newmind has to the bottom two and nootropicsdepot has the top two for kindling

>>44167

Damn, whats the source for this?

Found this very interesting

https://hypnosisandsuggestion.org/modification-of-suggestibility.html

>>44875

Most drugs improve trance depth only between at most 10-30% with a high variance depending on the specific testing methodology employed by the respective study. Compare the percentages of the LSD and nitrous oxide listings for example.

A well fitted file should easily compensate for the depth increase you would get by consuming most drugs (unless you are already somewhat addicted and cannot relax properly without drugs) and it is more healthy for your trancing organ, the brain, as well.

I'm not against the use of drugs with hypnosis but please make sure the other factors are considered properly as well.

bump

Melatonin, 15mg (sleep disorder dose)

I'm curious as to the source of that elixir of shinai graphic as well. Most I've tried so far is some of the sissy popper vids out there. with the right ones, i did feel like sinking into trance on 2 vids, and a 3rd vid did help me finally get a no touching the front orgasm.

But a chemical cocktail I could brew up to increase trance effectiveness? I've got a few files I'd be willing to do that for.

I have tried PRL-8-53 and Coluracetam, I have Unifram on the way, and I havent found a source for d-cycloserine in europe. Tried N2O for the "spark", as I don't have access to speed :P

TLDR: If it's doing anything it's very subtle, but I do feel like it's helping.

I have trouble trancing, trouble staying still for an hour and focusing my mind. And I have trouble going into a deep trance. I feel like the first part is the cause of the second.

Things I have tried until now, I have found that I need to trance before 5-6pm, preferably right after waking up. I have found that a reclining chair works better than a bed. Light alcohol usage doesn't help, and nether does weed, both of them make it way harder to focus. I have dyslexia, that may affect things, not sure how.

Prior to this I was trying to "relax and zone out", but apparently the opposite is what I need.

I'm taking Coluracetam 25-30g sublingual, for 5min, and 5-10mg PRL-8-53 dissolved in water to wash the remaining Coluracetam down, then waiting 30 minutes.

SO… what I have noticed is slight increase in focus, a sort of intensity, but very subtle. Like drinking a coffee for me is way more stimulating. And this is not that at all. it's a lot more subtle, RPL, idk, in a study, people have increased their recall 200% after taking it, but anecdotally i don't feel any difference in recall.

For trancing, I feel that my ability to concentrate and to tune out the world is increased. All the sessions where I took the things, were on par with the best experiences I have had in awhile. That being said, it's not magic, i would say it has increased my trance ability like 20%

N2O, the sedative effect only lasts like 30sec, but it's a good way to kickstart the relaxation process, like a muscle relaxer cheat code. Later in the trance, I haven't found any difference doing it or not.

Will report back when I do a few sessions with Unifram in the mix. And I'm open to other ideas too . ^_^

I have a different approach that works very well for me. Instead of taking meds/drugs/weed … I hook myself up to a male jackoff machine (I have 3 of these) turn it on slow which makes me unable to cum but stimulates the hell out of me, put on a pair of headphones and a blindfold to listen to a playlist of my favourite recordings (mostly chastity, tease, limp, and premature ejaculation) and lock my wrists in time-release handcuffs.

The extreme pleasure waves(endorphins) i'm feeling literally prevents me from resisting or blocking the suggestions in the recordings and the cock pumping (on low) provides powerful edging and denial which also helps in my 'training'.

I used to do this exact activity with a real hypnodomme in person (it was her concept) . Now that I'm in a vanilla relationship I'm hoping to find an online hypnodomme to continue my 'training'. I know that may be off topic…any ideas where to find a (non-pro) hypnodomme on line?

Just for completeness, my machines are venus2000, accujac (funwaysmarketing) and I think it's called Mistress Laura's male milking machine. I'm going to get the octopuss pulse solo for more 'portable' fun - it's small, rechargeable (runs 3 hours), pulses for tease and denial and doesn't even need lube to use.

correction .. second machine is called robojac. Accujac was the name of the device when it was invented in the 70s. Robojac is a updated version. I burned out one Robojac after 6 years of use. I also burned out 2 Mistress Laura's machines. The third one is working fine.

Oxytocine nose spray

>>47153

It sounds like a combination of this:

https://owned-by-princess-shelle.blogspot.com/p/remote-control-box.html

(see also this discussion https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread-Using-hypnosis-for-self-bondage?pid=28303#pid28303)

and this:

https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread-DIY-Selfbondage-forced-Orgasm-Device

Do you have an opinion on CBD ?

>>47153

cant you just ask your vanilla lady to do that to you? exploring fetishes is half of the fun in a relationship imo.

if you really want to find it on the webz i recommend nightflirt, and gone wild audio reddit.

>>47153

@jimmy-crack-corn. I'd love to try that in person with a hypnodomme. Is she still in business? What city?

There is a series of devices called phigits which are pc interfaces to control solenoids or relays . I set up a few years ago a way to control the 'speed' of the jackoff machine and wrote code to control it. It would start slow .. teasingly slow … and slowly speed up. An optical detector would detect a really full erection and then turn the device off for 5 minutes and then the cycle would repeat keeping me on the edge while i listened to anaeros files. My next step would have been to deliver shocks to subdue the erection when the erection was at max. I have a PES electro box with a jock with conductive surfaces. The jock has a hole for the member to be accessible to the stroking tube. Kinky inventors are the best. Too bad I can't pursue any of this stuff in my vanilla relationship .. everything is in storage.

Hello!

I am thinking to try p0ppers, along with a joi video. I am not sissy, I just want to experience an highlighted orgasm!

I haven't taken anything other than alcohol in my life, and the doses in most of those videos is a minimum of 3 sniffs.. would that be dangerous for a first timer?

Would you mind sharing a good joi video where the dom asks you to sniff n stroke?

Good lord you guys are taking this fetish way too seriously. If you don't do drugs usually, you shouldn't try to relate drug effects with orgasm because it makes you crave for more drugs everytime you want to take a wank as explained by >>44576. Be careful and know what you are doing/want.

I had heard Oxytocin spray (Not to be confused with the opiod Oxycontin) was supposes to have some effect that would help with hypnosis so I ordered one. Used it for about a week and din’t notice anything other than what felt like anbad sinus infection after using it. There was a link to a chart up here somewhere that outlined the best substance for hypnotic suggestibility and alcohol was the best on that list. I would love to try is on weed and a ‘robo suck’ but don’t have access to sither or the provacy to use them if I had them

https://www.healthline.com/health/pregnancy/nipple-stimulation-to-induce-labor

nipple stim for "poor man's" oxytocin shot, hypno boost

>>49266

Any luck?

Has anyone ever used damiana, blue lotus, passion flower or any other legal herb or combination of thereof? (illegal in a few states and some backwards countries but otherwise legal pretty much worldwide)

Also psychedelics aren't really useful for hypno imo.

>>44360

>>44472

Yeah, you won't be able to mesure 15mg without a 10 000$ scale. Kitchen scales are not even precise to the gram btw.

Just dilute everything, in 1 unit of measurement (1 cup, x mililitres, etc) then take 10% of the added water, and dilute it in 9.9 units, and repeat as needed times.

let's say you're stating with 40g. Once you add water you have 40g (unless it's staturated, ie there still are solids inside) in a solution. first dilution contails 4g total (10% of 40g). second dilution contails 0.04g total or 40mg; you don't need to add water to the second dilution unless you want more precision.

Take a quarter of the second solution (10mg) at first to be on the safe side. If there was no effect, wait at least a week (to avoid any drug resistance you may have built) and try with half of what remains (15mg)

If I fuked any of my math ur ded tho lmao.

>>47153

Hey, what lube are you using, and how do you deal with it drying constantly? I only use japanese lube because I usually import it in large quantities amongst other goods, so any suggestion welcome not matter how basic it may seem to you.

What device is the best, what sleeve is the best, what about e-stim?

I'm currently using a tremblr (from f-machine, cheaper and no 20% EU import protection money) with a venus2000 sleeve because it's just better than the one it came with, but the vacuum valve is a bit funky and constant drying / lube accumulating at the top makes it so I have to add lube or at least spit every 5 mins. Unless I run it really slow, which is fun and all but won't bring me over the edge.

My main gripe is that the inner rubber tube is still too stiff/thick. I thought of making one myself from latex sheets, but the seam would probably ruin everything. Condoms and gloves break too easily. I should try with a balloon next time, just thought of it now.

How's the robojac/accujac one? looks pretty good, but I probably would need to set up a liquid trap to not fuck up my tremblr (basically a cheaper venus2000 that can only top at 300 fap per minute, which is more than enough imo).

On a sidenote, hooking an inflatable buttplug to it is freaking awesome.

>>47915

How does your controlling setup work? Do you control it with the frequencies the remote uses or is it a wired setup?

Also if you really like estim I think that you should invest into an ET312B at some point, since -if I'm not mistaken- the people at smartstim have developped a software to remote control it. It's behind a paywall though. ``donations''…

Or you might go for a 2B from estim system, a company which also offers the "comander" software for internet remote control.

Haven't tried that yet, but I own a 2B. Both machines are considered the best comercially available devices by a vast majority of the comunity, people generally get the one from their continent due to shipping fees and import taxes (so ET312B for Americans and 2B for Europeans).

There's also the french device 3rdH, and while it's good it doesn't offer the remote control stuff afaik (gotta send mine for a firmware update and some repairs).

Then there's the whole "current pleasures" vendor/comunity that are people who went rogue and started their own shit after some drama; I have no idea of the qualities and specs of their devices, so I wouldn't advise them. Their cables and shit are good and dirt cheap, so I'd recommend that tho.

Going back to the original topic.. sort of.

Continuing on from >>47098 I got Unifram, so I had 3 of the "ingredients" adding Unifram didn't make much of a difference. But I stuck to the goal of listening at least 5 times a week, and was getting better at it. Less distracted and more conditioned to "drop" on command. I also "shopped around" a lot of different tists, and found that Ultra from youtube actually has the best induction for me so far :)

Then i did some of my own research tried Modafinil instead of my "blend" and it had the same benefits, but lasted more than 3 hours. And that was neat, plus a pill is easier than painstakingly measuring the powders by volume…

Then I looked into some other things that those nootropics (clear-net) sites were offering.. found two interesting candidates. Both are weakly regulated prescription drugs that are used as nootropics in low doses. But get you sort of high in high doses.. but not in a … way that someone who would want to get high would want… so recreational use is limited, so they are not regulated. (that's my understanding)

I should also add that I have only done drugs for the purposes of helping hypno.. so my personal experience is very limited.

First was https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Tianeptine high dose (120mg) is kinda euphoric.. but also a bit disorienting.. the peak seems to last like 30min.. and the whole thing about an hour… Not useful for hypno.

Second was https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Memantine This is interesting… even a double "prescription" dose is slightly dissociative, 40mg is something, and 60 is kinda the sweet spot for me. I would describe it as dissociative, and a little analgesic, but even though I felt like my mind was in a fog while I was not actively thinking.. my mind was not affected almost at all… probably a bit of an antianxiety effect.. For trancing this was great, I could focus on the files, and was really separated from my body. Normally 30min files can feel long to me, 1h long files are sometimes a struggle if everything is not perfect… With this I have listened 3 hours straight, focused and engaged. Not feeling the need to move, or exhaustion from staying still. It's a big deal for me. But this stuff is really just a sometimes thing… as it stays in your system for the whole day.. and the "disconnected" feeling lasts about 7 hours, and after that it still takes the whole day to get back to normal.. so I really need the whole day to myself for that.. and that is rare. Which is good, as this thing builds up tolerance fast.. and I really would rather not….

Anyway that's my journey so far. I'm coming up on 3 months of almost daily listening, and i'm proud of that, I have successfully made hypno a fun and pleasurable activity. And my "natural" skill has also greatly increased… and hopefully will continue until I reach my goals :)

>>47912

I cannot find anything about these cuffs except on some very old looking site that doesn't even mention where to buy them

I did however find this and it looks pretty neat

https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread-DIY-Selfbondage-forced-Orgasm-Device

Has anyone tried hypnosis while doing Xanax?

>>51666

I've never listened to hypnosis or masturbated on xans but from what I've heard they make it harder for you to cum so they would probably be perfect for edging but not great for a HFO

>>51674

Antidepressant either kills your libido, your ability to get boner or both.

You don't really need those for hypnosis, so his question makes sense; however the mindfog you get with those will most likely interfere.

I'd rather go with ketamine instead of benzos if I had the $$$ to get some on the darknet.

DXM can make you believe something completely.

On previous trips, I have forgotten that I was male, forgotten what I look like, come to believe that I was the woman in the videos I was watching by faking an "oh, that's me" reaction to her, abruptly felt a sense of warm sisterhood and ecstatic empathy with the women in the videos, etc. It's like having a long, weird, semi-lucid dream.

Sometimes you get unwanted suggestions from earlier in the day. For example, I was reading a book about novel writing from the 1920s called Plotto, which treats marriage as the automatic result of true love. During the trip that night, in my state of delusion, I was certain that I wanted to marry a certain kind of man. I was exclusively attracted to men and believed that I was a woman, but the weirdly old fashioned craving for a diamond ring was not quite what I had planned for.

Eye contact in videos is very powerful. Depending on how you choose to react to it, you can build your response from anything to "I know exactly how she feels" to "There I am." This works best early in the trip, before you come to completely believe what you are telling yourself; after that you are basically at the mercy of your playlist.

My advice, though, is to start with two or three longish audio files that set the tone of the trip, and teach you basic facts that become completely true for the next five to seven hours. Before you dose, make sure your day is free from unwanted suggestions and short-term memories, and instead as full of the kind of images and feelings you want to experience as possible. DXM is time-intensive.

This board had an excellent DXM thread or two in late 2017.

>>44167

What about http://howhypnosiswork.com/top-9-hypnotic-drugs-most-powerful/ ?

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