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 No.37837

So many threads about files, but little about actual hypnodommes. I am wondering what you think about them? Do they enjoy what they do? Are they in some way economically forced to do it? How do they feel about this whole thing? Is it anything to them besided business? From which social classes they come? Are they poor and forced to do it for a living? Or perhaps they have a natural talent for it?

Has any of you ever actually served a hypnodomme? Was it a rewarding experience? Is it better than just collecting and listening to files? Was it worth it? How much money you need for it on a monthly basis? Does it ever become meaningful, and real in any way or it's just business and fantasy?

 No.37841

Not served exactly, though I've interacted with a few and solved some tech issues. I think real hypnodommes are few and far between. You'll never serve a Niteflirt Domme other than act as an ATM. I suspect the few real ones left are therapists or self-taught enthusiasts with a kink. If I didn't have a full time job and bills to pay, I've often wondered about serving in-person. I imagine it would be the pinnacle of the fantasy, but again, it may just be fantasy and the reality might not stack up. Hopefully someone with more experience will chime in.


 No.37854

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> Has any of you ever actually served a hypnodomme?

I have, and I personally know several who recorded files that are popular in this scene. I've also spoken with many online, mostly via Inraptured several years ago.

> How much money you need for it on a monthly basis? Does it ever become meaningful, and real in any way or it's just business and fantasy?

I was dating the person. It was not a professional session, although she currently releases recordings professionally.

> Are they in some way economically forced to do it?

Not to my knowledge. The people I know realized there's a market for the recordings and tried selling them online. Sometimes that leads to selling live Skype sessions. I don't know many who do in-person sessions for money. They usually sell books and kink toys at conventions instead.

> Was it a rewarding experience? Is it better than just collecting and listening to files?

Absolutely. You can accomplish much more during in-person play, and the excitement of not knowing what's going to happen next adds to the experience. Also, allowing the other person to control your orgasm makes for good sex.

Do they enjoy what they do?

Yes. Otherwise they wouldn't have found out about it and started doing it ;)


 No.37855

This is a good discussion, thanks OP for starting this.

There was a guy in here (on N1kk1's thread) who claimed he had served N1kk1 in person and it was an absolutely wonderful experience. I wish that guy would give his inputs here. Getting physical with someone like N1kk1, who we know is absolutely brilliant and NOT that wicked as so many other man-hating "hypnodommes", must be one helluva orgasm in itself.

And if anyone has served a good dominant female (emphasis on good), who might have been their GF or wife or ex-wife of just FWB - I would love to hear about your experience. How did it start? Were you forced to push yourself beyond what you felt comfortable with? Did it feel good in the end?

(sorry OP not trying to hijack your thread)


 No.37893

>>37854 here. I can weigh in on this.

> Getting physical with someone like N1kk1, who we know is absolutely brilliant and NOT that wicked as so many other man-hating "hypnodommes", must be one helluva orgasm in itself.

I never met N1kk1 in person, but we became internet friends about ten years ago via Inraptured. We mostly just chatted as friends, but she invited me to private room trances occasionally. She's largely responsible for me venturing into the kink scene in real life. To this day, I don't think I've met a kinder person on the internet. You say there are "man-hating hypnodommes," but having spoken to and met several over the past few years, I've never encountered that. The dominant women I've associated with in the lifestyle like men (and often times women) very much. They would just rather be in control. From my experience, the "man-hating" thing is mostly untrue in real life, and the pro-dommes on the internet who do that are either misguided or satisfying a specific kink for it.

> I would love to hear about your experience. How did it start?

I dated somebody who is currently producing femdom hypnosis recordings full-time. We met at a kink-friendly house party and she gave me her number. After dating for a few weeks, we started playing in a D/s context and attending local events. I told her about hypnosis, but she wanted to stick with more traditional impact/collar/leash stuff.

She became curious when I signed up for the first Charmed erotic hypnosis event in 2016. She asked about what hypnosis could do, and when I listed HFOs, she made me listen to a file while she watched (F10na Cl34rw4t3r's popular HFO file on YouTube). She changed her mind about hypnosis after that and wanted to use it on me, mostly for arousal/orgasm control triggers. Her preferred in-person strategy was to make me listen to a recording she made (without JOI/HFO) as foreplay. Then we would do more standard D/s while I was still fractionated from the recording.

> Were you forced to push yourself beyond what you felt comfortable with?

No, I had more experience with erotic hypnosis and was already open to most types of play.

> Did it feel good in the end?

Yes, it's a lot of fun and I recommend it. But this is coming from a lifestyle perspective, not a professional one. I'm personally not interested in hiring a dominatrix or paying for live online sessions. Erotic hypnosis is inherently very intimate and more satisfying with a partner I trust.


 No.37917

>>37893

Thank you so much for your input. I am >>37855

I wish others would share their experiences like him.


 No.37924

Howdy. I'm the guy who had a long term real life relationship serving as N1kk1s boy. For the most part, it was pretty amazing and intense. We worked together very closely on sessions that were released to the public, and she was also creating custom files that I would listen to as directed to train and program me in ways that she desired. Those files were typically a mix of erotic D/s and self improvement like exercising, getting good sleep, stress reduction, etc. She also liked to embed triggers that would cause me to do things that amused or pleased her. Lots of intimate sexy fun.

There were also times that were difficult. It was sometimes hard for me to know how intimately she was impacting other listeners thru her recordings….some guys became very attached and occupied her time and energy, and that could be difficult to keep in perspective. I tried hard not to get jealous but wasn't always successful.

So I think the positive aspects outweighed the negatives by a long shot, but the realities weren't always aligned with what one might fantasize about.


 No.37929

>>37924

I came along after she had left the scene, did she publicly ever say why she left it?


 No.37931

>>37924

So is it safe to say that you were the "boy" she always referenced in her files? :D

I mean, I know that since almost everything she ever did was focused towards males as the subjects/submissives, with a small number of her files being "vanilla" and for men or women (like Slide, Breathe, Cause & Effect, and a few others, but for ones like "Submit To Deep Sleep" she purposely says the reason the file was created was because "a certain boy just couldn't get to sleep one night" so that presumption is that she was meaning *you* is there.

Regardless, I can imagine that it was difficult with so many - and yes that means men/boys/etc - vying for her time, that comes with the territory. I got to know 4n0nym1str3ss fairly well many years ago and she faced that kind of thing herself. Men/boys/etc were literally flinging themselves at her and she could have made a metric fuckton of money from them - one guy offered to buy her a house in the Hamptons and that's like a few million bucks, some New York stockbroker from what I was told, would have been like pennies on the dollar for him but she declined it, didn't feel it was worth that much and she didn't want to be constrained by his demands for the deal.

I miss 4n0nym1str3ss, I really do. Some of her files I had never heard before (I purchased about 20 of them over the years and had a few she sent me for free because I wrote some stories for her, the loop files - not Loopy, I mean the Sleep Loop, Surrender Loop, etc, the ones that were just repetitive content.

Recently I asked in another thread for the Trance/Emma Evans files and when those were shared on Volafile someone was posting a lot of 4n0nym1str3ss stuff I had never seen or heard shared before so I grabbed everything I could and wow, some of this stuff is fucking awesome.

I had never heard "Fainting Couch" or heard of it, and my god, after so many years of being a fan of hers this was like the Holy Grail file to me, it's just god damned amazing and dropped me through the floor multiple times so, whoever that was sharing the 4n0nym1str3ss files about a week or two ago, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FUCKING FOREVER. ;)

But yeah, those two, 4n0nym1str3ss and N1kk1 F4t4|3, they're really the only two that I listen to, the rest, and I really mean none of them, interest me at all.


 No.37933

>>37854

I just purchased Mind Play, Mind Play - The Study Guide (both by Wiseguy as you already know), and Hypnotic Amnesia by LeeAllure and DJ Pynchon not last week from Amazon. Told |33 I had it (through the EH server on Discord) and hope to get her to autograph it sometime if i ever make it to a con, as well as getting the other two autographed by Wiseguy someday as well.

Nice to see you made it to NEEHU a few weeks ago, congrats, hope it was a great experience.


 No.37999

>>37933

If you're able to attend a con, definitely attend classes by Wiseguy and Lee. They're both very knowledgeable and good presenters ;)

>>37924

Oh man, if you're the real deal, I learned something valuable from you. N1kk1 told me the story of how she found out about hypnosis. It was her boy (you?) who introduced her to the idea. Years later, I introduced my dominant partner to the topic and she got into it the same way.

I imagine many people reading this thread wish to serve a hypnodomme in person at some point. This is generally how I try it. Find a date; she could be a dominant from the scene if you're lucky, or otherwise somebody in the vanilla world who seems open to trying things. Playfully test the waters to see if she takes an interest in dominating you. If she stops you from walking across the street when a car is coming, for example, make a joke that you're indebted to her for saving your life. She'll agree, of course. Then later you can suggest performing some submissive act that absolves you of some of your debt. Hopefully she agrees but then playfully keeps it going by only partially forgiving it, or by adding more service to the list for other reasons. At that point, you both keep adding stupid reasons to the "list" that leaves you at her mercy indefinitely. Keep trying, and failing, to make it up to her. Eventually, the topic of hypnosis will find its way into normal conversation. You could mention it's real, that you've experienced it, and that it works on you. In the likely event she becomes curious, you could say you have a recreational trigger, but act reluctant to tell her what it is because you're concerned she'll have too much fun using it on you. Get into a playful argument and lose, obviously. Negotiate letting her trigger/hypno you in exchange for redeeming a fraction of your massive debt. If she's relatively vanilla, let her trigger you with "spells" or something like in Bewitched. If she gets into that, it's only a matter of time before she wonders if she can make you drop to your knees and eat her out whenever she snaps her fingers…


 No.38000

>>37999

That, or just get a girlfriend with a PhD in psychology, tell her that hypnosis is nothing more than a bunch of fantasizing and see your world change in just a matter of a couple of months.

But your approach is very likely to work if she's into it. It all depends on how you deliver it.


 No.38016

Discussions in this thread are enlightening and also very arousing :)

Would love to hear more from men who have served some hypno-domme ever in their life.


 No.38024

I'm currently in a long-term romantic relationship and living together with a well-known erotic hypnotist. I'll try to give as much info as possible without making it too obvious who I'm talking about.

A little about me, so you can understand my perspective. I've known I was a sub basically forever, but this is my first bdsm relationship. I stumbled across femdom hypnosis quite a few years ago. It was my first taste of feeling like I was actually submitting to another person. I started binging hypnosis files. Hypnosis itself wasn't a kink for me, but it was a method to explore my kinks and feel like I was actually being dominated and giving up control. Over the years, I went through several phases of binging hypno files alternating with losing my interest in it for a while.

We started dating around the time she first started experimenting with creating hypnosis files for fun, before she was making any money off them, still working a full-time vanilla job. We met online, I messaged her after finding her profile on a dating site. We started realizing pretty quickly that we fit together perfectly, both in terms of kink and vanilla couple stuff. I'll try to keep it to the kinky stuff though, otherwise I'd make everyone reading this gag at the lovey-dovey sappy-sweet crap.

Our relationship isn't a 24/7 kink relationship. She does tend to be bossy, and we are both very into bdsm and play on a regular basis, but we do a lot of typical boyfriend/girlfriend stuff too. Our relationship is girlfriend/boyfriend first, domme/sub second. I don't address her as Mistress all the time, I don't sleep in a cage or anything like that. I work a normal vanilla job.

She knows me better than anyone. She knows how my mind works, and can frequently tell what I'm thinking by looking at me. She understands my kinks, not just in the sense of "he likes bondage so I should tie him up," but on a deep level. She understands why I have them, how they work in my mind, what I really want to get out of them. She's the first person I've ever really felt comfortable talking about my kinks with in person, and she helped me stop being ashamed of them and accept myself. I'm still not really "out" as kinky though. Some of her friends know about our dynamic and the whole erotic hypnotist thing, but most of mine don't.

Our kinks align very well. Hypnosis isn't actually her biggest kink either, we're both more into typical bdsm: Bondage, beatings, all that good stuff. We don't do long in-person hypnosis scenes often. That said, hypnosis is still a kink we enjoy. She is very good at getting in my head, and often adds some hypno/dirty talk/psychological mindfuckery to our bdsm scenes, and does impromptu short hypno sessions. Also, sometimes she adds some "tactile sensation" while I'm listening to one of her files.

She enjoys manipulating me, and she's really, really good at it, whether or not hypnosis is involved. I've accepted the fact that she can manipulate me into whatever she wants, because I trust her completely and know that I would be OK with whatever it is she's manipulating me into. The line between dirty talk and hypno is a bit blurred, because we've been together long enough that when she switches to her dirty talk voice, it's kind of a trigger for me.

(1/2)


 No.38025

>>38024

She pushes me past what I'm comfortable with, but I wouldn't call it forced. She knows my limits. I have a red and yellow safeword, and I've never had to call red. Sometimes she pushes and expands my limits, but she does it in a way that I would consider a normal part of a healthy bdsm relationship. I get off on the idea of her pushing me like that, molding me into being her ideal sub.

She's conditioned me to be way more of a masochist than I was. I always liked the idea of taking pain for someone who's getting off on torturing me, but since I was new to actually experiencing bdsm she's been gradually expanding my pain tolerance. She took my to my first bdsm event, where I was nervous even just walking around with a collar on. Now, I've been to lots of events and done lots of things I never thought I'd be comfortable doing with others watching: being naked, getting tied up and beaten, being led on a leash through crowds while restrained and wearing a sensory deprivation hood, even getting fucked in the ass with a fucking machine.

I don't get too directly involved in her work. Sometimes she bounces ideas off me. Some of her files were created with me in mind, i.e. oriented towards my kinks and the way I think. Others were inspired by scenes that we had. Sometimes it's a little surreal, knowing that thousands of people are basically fapping to the experience I had. I'm an introvert, she enjoys the spotlight and knowing lots of people are listening to her. They're definitely not all about me though, there's several of her files I never listened to because the kinks in them don't interest me.

She definitely enjoys what she does, and it's more than just business for her. She gets off on the adoration and worship, she has a natural talent for hypnosis, and the dominance she expresses in her files is very much genuine. She's made a bunch of friends through her work. She honestly does care about her subs/followers and wants the best for them.

Creating hypnosis files is still work, though. Take anything you do as a hobby for fun, start adding deadlines and making it an obligation you have to do, and it becomes less fun. Occasionally she gets writers block or feels burned out, just like any other creative endeavor.

She's not economically forced to do it, we're an upper middle class couple. She enjoys being her own boss though, she's never been crazy about other people telling her what to do.

I tried to hit most of the questions asked so far. Feel free to ask me anything else.

Tl;dr: 11/10 would recommend.

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 No.38027

>>38024

>>38025

Now this is what I am talking about. Thanks for your input man. I will ask you if something pops up in my mind.


 No.38044

>>37924

>Howdy. I'm the guy who had a long term real life relationship serving as N1kk1s boy

Dude, we are honored to have you here :)

Any particular experience with her that is very very memorable for you - the more erotic and positive the better it is .. care to share ?


 No.38070

Hi Again,

Yes, I am N1kk1s_boy, or NB from the old inraptured days. I had a nice memory when I read the post about how She was introduced to hypnosis…..I don't know if She shared the details, but in involved sitting in Her car on a rainy day….with some intimate interaction for a bit…..and the conversation turned to some stress stuff for her, so we spent some time watching the rain drop hit the windshield….watching the drops roll down the glass….me talking, Her listening…..giving her a pleasant, unexpected escape from the reality of the day…..that included an intense orgasm for Her will in trance……After that, She became super curious about hypnosis, and worked Her ass off to learn, take classes, correspond with other Hypnodommes….and you all know the rest of the story. I was a very lucky guy!


 No.38077

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>>38024

I'm >>37893 and will vouch for the authenticity of this post. I hope you two have been well!

>>38070

I'm >>37999 and can confirm this is the story N1kk1 told me. We're all grateful you introduced her to hypnosis! I haven't heard from her in years because we only chatted through Inraptured. Too bad that website isn't really a thing anymore.

Speaking of N1kk1 stories, she told me her car was stolen one time while she was traveling with her toy bag. The police eventually found her car, and when she arrived to pick it up, they told her the perpetrator left some weird stuff inside. Hahaha


 No.38078

>>38070

Now I am not sure who I should thank more for all the amazing hypno stuff that has been produced - N1kk1 or you? :)

Please accept my heart-felt gratitude to both of you.

So basically YOU gave N1kk1 a hypno-orgasm first, and AFTER that she became the hypno-queen that we admire so much. Wow!


 No.38147

It was truly an amazing experience to be N1kk1s boy…her lover…her friend…confidant….colaborator…etc. I was very fortunate to have a relationship with her get several years. Real life changes and challenges for both if us made it clear that we needed to move on. Circumstances brought us together initially….and also made it clear when we had to move forward indepenantly. It was an amazing journey. While we worked together on the script for sessions, the product that people enjoyed were all her. The voice, the emotion, the sexy chuckles, the improv about the sound of the ice maker in the background causing you to fall deeper……all her. Perhaps the most intimate fly on the wall experience is the Alter session. There are 2 versions….one intended for public consumption…..and one intended to brainwash me…..both are worth seeking out for your collection.


 No.38153

>>38147

Alter as in alter someone in some way or Altar as in worship at an altar?

I know there's the Backroom Altar files, at least Backroom Altar file and then the Altar Training - Pussy Slave file.

You've piqued my interest now so if you could clarify your meaning that would be awesome, thanks.

And thanks for sharing your perspective as NB as well.


 No.38159

I was referring to the pussy slave sessions.


 No.41822

youre so fucking lucky mate


 No.42320

>>37931

Could you post those 4n0nym1str3ss files please?




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