/hydrus/ - Hydrus Network

>>9943

> This easy-share system for the downloader

I wonder what this will do… will there be an index of available downloaders inside Hydrus?

Most custom boorus with logins seem to be working without too much trouble but a nijie.info login & parser would be appreciated. Many artists fled there from Pixiv due to censorship concerns. Also would like to see iwara.tv and ecchi.iwara.tv support for mmd videos. The download javascript gives a time-sensitive link making it more difficult to automate.

>>9955

Unless things have changed recently there was never an "x points required" or waiting period to access exhentai. Going to exhentai before logging in gives you a cookie that prevents you from accessing it even after logging in to e-hentai and people cannot figure out how to clear their browser's cookies even with instructions. Hence waiting it out always works.

Source: made several accounts and always get in instantly.

>>9968

Iwara would be pretty good, but some videos are private so login would be needed as well.

>>9957

>significant vocal minority of deranged actual pedophiles who use loli/shota as a fix because it's hard to get real cp now.

Since when 2D is considered real people?

>>9968

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>>9970

I-I h-h-haven't updated s-since like v-v-version 311.

I a-am scared… O.O

>>9943

>You can now put '\' (or '/' for Linux) in file export phrases! It is now easy to export well-tagged files to complicated folder structures, including those based on namespace/tag!

H-holy fuck, I asked about this a few months back.

I was never in a place to do so, since I haven't even donated or even used the program to tag much, but holy shit, that's awesome.

For my theoretical purpose it'd allow easier sharing for those who do not want to use the program.

Amazing.

There is literally only one thing I am worried about:

I am kinda weary of the heavy-weight nature of this program.

I mean, it has tons and tons of features, which is cool, but I am worried it may be too heavy to mount on some platforms, if you knwo what I mean… are my worries unfounded?

Also:

I once copied my "db" folder for a backup and then just put it back in a hydrus directory when I was done wiping the PC, and it had an error (that fixed itself) - what did I do wrong?

>>9972

> I am worried it may be too heavy to mount on some platforms, if you knwo what I mean

I don't know what you mean, but while Hydrus doesn't have ideal responsiveness in the GUI and other small flaws, it's still reasonable on a current PC when managing a good bunch of million files combined with a whole lot of million tags in the PTR and tag databases.

Hydrus_dev obviously tried to avoided behaviour that would lead to bad performance at a home collection scale [given Python and Sqlite].

It is probably not fast enough to try and do a local mirror over all notable sites where you can find drawn images [hundreds of millions of images at least plus duplicates, I think] or such a thing.

> it had an error (that fixed itself) - what did I do wrong?

Very hard to tell without knowing the error.

>>9973

>I don't know what you mean

Well, I am worried it'll be too slow for everyday quick use with few images, sub 5000 actually.

I mean, even boot takes like 15 seconds.

That is what I am worried about.

Also I am worried that it won't run on most computers - but that is probably totally unfounded as you point out correctly.

>Very hard to tell without knowing the error.

Wait… lemme see if I can dig it up… it's probably gone though.

>>9974

Yeah, sorry, no cap of the error anymore.

Thanks for you answer still!

I've noticed that most of the *.booru.org sites(besides furry) are running the 0.1.1 Gelbooru beta, but all the parsers are for 0.2.0+, was a 0.1.1 ever made, or did all this start afterwards?

>>9956

>>9957

I've seen no lack of loli content on e-hentai and nhentai. Then again, I'm not specifically searching for loli.

>>9965

>Likely because of the content.

It doesn't even have a vanilla tag so it's useless to me.

>As far as I can tell, that's not really the case.

Tell that to /rs/ and /t/. Everybody used tpb, nyaa, bakabt, etc. partially because you didn't need to sign up. Before that was rapidshare, megaupload, sendspace, etc.. And before that there were all the p2p/usenet groups. Stuff like Demonoid was actually the exception, now we have (or had) stuff like waffles.fm, what.cd, animebytes, rutracker, etc. Even now people do plenty of sharing through mega, or via shitty blog links to questionable filehosts in foreign countries.

It's more like crackdowns are the reasoning behind trying to make some of this stuff private. But anybody can navigate through rutracker's sign up. Just like anybody can sign up to get past the panda. You can even swap that "x" for a "-" and probably get the exact same gallery on e-hentai. Obviously forcing ratios for the old torrent stuff keeps shit alive too so that's another goal, but these minute barriers do next to nothing beyond probably thwarting bot auto-takedown notices.

None of this stops gelbooru and sankaku from hosting loli, btw. They just don't do doujins. And they're even easier to access.

You're also ignoring the regular threads about switching off chrome to Brave or whatever the goto "private" browser is these days. And ublock vs. adnauseam. Then there's huge complaints about Win10 and its spying too. Privacy/Anonymity are practically ingrained into a channer by default. Never forget, the default name was always "Anonymous."

>>9976

https://github.com/CuddleBear92/Hydrus-Presets-and-Scripts

>>9957

>guaranteedreplies.txt

>>9967

>>9970

>replies.txt

>>9978

Yeah, it's not that there's a lack of it, it's that those are either hosted in a country which allows it or are willing to take down the content when the feds come. Whereas sadpanda is too busy pining for the fjords or whatever to ever be useful to anyone who uses it as a website and not a central life obsession.

Reposting >>9969 because apparently I'm a brainlet who can't figure out which thread is the latest…

>>9943

Hey dev,

The Derpibooru integration works pretty well, but seems to be subject to the site's default filter which hides anything not kid-friendly.

You should request no filtering by passing `&filter_id=56027` in with each call to the search endpoints (assuming showing everything is a reasonable default).

The filter_id parameter is mentioned briefly on the API docs page [0], and the ID is from the Everything filter on the filters page [1].

[0]: https://derpibooru.org/pages/api

[1]: https://derpibooru.org/filters

>>9974

> sub 5000 actually

That's almost nothing.

> I mean, even boot takes like 15 seconds.

Check options -> speed and memory. Maybe most of that time is spent pre-caching the PTR or something?

Granted, Hydrus isn't going to be a fast-opening program like sxiv or feh is either way.

> but that is probably totally unfounded as you point out correctly

Yes, it's probably not a big issue except on ancient machines, and you maybe don't need to start an image collection on all machines including those slower/featuring less RAM than a midrange smartphone today…?

>>9978

>It doesn't even have a vanilla tag so it's useless to me.

Vanilla sex? Different between cultures - don't even bother with that tag.

> p2p/usenet groups

You know, people usually needed to sign up for usenet/IRC somewhere.

> You can even swap that "x" for a "-" and probably get the exact same gallery on e-hentai.

You think they don't know?

> forcing ratios for the old torrent stuff

IIRC you don't even get anything on exhentai unless you publish torrents. Ratios aren't enforced.

> None of this stops gelbooru and sankaku from hosting loli, btw.

Different places for the hosts perhaps? Pixiv also likely won't have a problem unless Japan's legislation changes.

Also for hosts within the USA and elsewhere where there is more or less legal uncertainty, the respective hosts probably just have different willingness to take risks.

Tags in the manage tag window are grouping by namespace even if you don't have it set to group by namespace, so you have to scroll to see character/creator tags.

I would be over the moon if the "next big thing" were a more advanced query engine that could handle OR searches. Not sure how high this is on other people's lists, but for me it would greatly improve the way I can interact with my collection. Whatever comes next though, I'm sure it will be great.

>>9946

Yeah, and despite twitter's crazy dynamic loading (and OAuth bullshit for their official api), this should be doable, a la:

https://twitter.com/i/profiles/show/Wunderweltworld/timeline/tweets?include_available_features=1&include_entities=1&max_position=1023689134106402817&reset_error_state=false

I'll have to play with it a bit more though. Figure out however to propagate the new max_position to the next call–but twitter support would be neat enough that I'd be willing to write a hacky hook for it.

Although someone was also telling me that twitter apply actually complete garbage compression on jpgs. It's no hope for the nip artists who solely post to twitter, but maybe we won't end up wanting to scrape it all that much.

>>9991

from the various utilities I've tried over the years, the easiest one is jdownloader which just adds :orig to all twitter images and grabs what pops up.

e.g. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGSFDS.jpg:orig

There's an awful lot of quality content on Twitter that's nowhere else, even if it is compressed to shit, so there's not much else to do sadly.

>>9948

Thank you–this is a bug I tried to pin down better this week with the updated status texts here. Is your client very very busy, like with many gallery importers or other 'active' pages? It looks like you have a ton of queries going on–could it be bigger than 200? I believe this problem is due to the worker threadpool getting overwhelmed with so many network jobs that even when the front few are ready to go, there isn't a thread available to work it so the whole system deadlocks.

If this is still true, or if it happens again, please check the new thread debug at help->debug->data actions->review threads. If there are a fuckton of CallToThread objects, I think we've figured out our problem. If the list isn't too huge, please take a screenshot.

For now, a client restart should/may joggle your queue and resolve the deadlock.

>>9992

Thank you for this info. I guess they have a secret cross-domain IP-based or iframe-trickery-dickery-doo-based 7-day timer their end that permits the igneous establishment.

I think a 'do this login, then wait 7 days before attempting this login' is probably too idiosyncratic and crazy for me to support in a first and simple login manager, so I'll leave it to copying cookies across from the browser.

>>9966

Yeah, it'll be network->downloaders->review and import downloaders. It'll list the different downloader objects as a simplified list and let you drop encoded png files on it to add more. It'll do the work of the dialogs under downloader definitions in a much simpler workflow.

Having any sort of remote lookup and "User X has released version 1.2 of gelbooru parser–download?" kind of auto-updating will not be in this initial version. I expect many new easy-share pngs will end up here:

https://github.com/CuddleBear92/Hydrus-Presets-and-Scripts/tree/master/NEW%20Download%20System

shit, >>9994 meant for >>9949

>>9992

Thanks. Yeah, I put :orig on the image url as well. Drag and drop import for image tweet URLs is in hydrus right now, but I was expecting figuring out an easy open 'RSS feed' of a user's tweets in history to be a pain. But I loaded up the developer inspection shit in firefox and just did some scrolling and discovered actually a pretty simple bit of json they use for fetching it. If I can tie that into my new gallery pipeline, I should be able to add a twitter username lookup. We'll have to see about including/discarding retweets and all that when I get into the details.

>>9968

My initial feeling is that I should only support single page logins to begin with. Just simple 'enter user/pass in this FORM, and POST it' stuff that then checks cookies out the other end. Most of the boorus are going to be like that, right? Maybe trying to chase even simple javascript whoop-de-doo is going to be a rabbit hole. The HF login script is more complicated (it applies the search filters after anon click-through login to allow futas etc…), but it could stay hardcoded for now.

If the HF login is just a simple user/pass form, I could even replace the complicated anon filter stuff with that entirely and say 'if you want to download from HF, get a throwaway login and set up filters in your browser to your liking', although that may be needlessly inconvenient.

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>>9982

Thanks. Yeah, clients are so far ok up to a few million files. The users I know with 3M+ are having laggy ui issues, but that is usually because they also have persistent 500 import queues800k download items/ in their front session. I have 1.1M in my IRL client on my (breddy good) laptop and it is fine. There are several things you can do to speed up a client that starts to get a lot of tags/files (like migrating to an SSD/HDD combo), which you'll naturally stumble across as you use the program more. And if you find things run slow, let me know and I'll see what I can do!

I don't recommend hydrus for anyone with a real old computer. It is a greedy python program, so it'll want to sit on a couple hundred MB just to get loaded, and if you toss a load of 60fps 1080p webms and 4000x4000 pngs at it, it won't stop and think before it starts eating ram and burning CPU time. 4GB ram bare minimum, 8GB at least if you want to sync with PTR. SSD is highly preferable for the db files.

If you chase down the 'client - yyyy-mm.log' files in install_dir/db, you might be able to find the error you got–let me know if you find it, but if your client is now working ok, the error was probably fixed.

>>9979

>>9976

Yeah, if you are comfortable with manage parsers and the rest of that ui, try this one:

https://github.com/CuddleBear92/Hydrus-Presets-and-Scripts/blob/master/NEW%20Download%20System/Parsers/gelbooru%200.1.11%20file%20page%20parser.txt

Afaik, the gelb 2.5.x gallery parser works for 0.1.11 gallery pages. I'll probably fold the file parser into a future update.

Otherwise wait for the easy downloader import.

>>9981

Thank you for this information. I don't suppose you know an equivalent for the html URLs, do you? Atm, the derpi downloader just walks through pages in this format:

https://derpibooru.org/search/index?page=1&q=rainbow+dash,straight

And putting filter_id on the end does not appear to change the output:

https://derpibooru.org/search/index?page=1&q=rainbow+dash,straight&filter_id=56027

I (or some other users) can write a new parser for it, but if there's a diff param I am missing to load an html search page with a 'temp' filter, then I can just roll out a different GUG and it'll be a much simpler job.

>>9987

Thank you for this report. It is happening elsewhere as well. I'll have it fixed for next week.

>>9999

holy shit this worked like a charm, thank you so much

carry on you fantastic autist

On shutdown, the client never asks to do maintenance.

2018/09/15 06:38:42: Traceback (most recent call last):

File "include\ClientController.py", line 425, in Exit

work_to_do = self.GetIdleShutdownWorkDue( time_to_stop )

File "include\ClientController.py", line 530, in GetIdleShutdownWorkDue

work_to_do.append( service.GetName + ' repository processing' )

TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'instancemethod' and 'str'

2018/09/15 06:38:44: shutting down controller…

2018/09/15 06:38:44: hydrus client shut down

>>9946

Seconding this.

>>10005

Christ, I'm sorry for this. It is a stupid error on my end. It is fixed for v323.

>>9988

I'd love OR, but it might be too slow depending on how the database is set up.

>>10002

I'm pretty sure there's some shenanigans with session cookies going on here. If you open your first link, go choose a filter, then navigate to the second link, your chosen filter seems to override the parameter. There may be other ways to trigger it too, don't have much time to test.

Open the first link in an incognito session, close that session, then open the second link in a new incognito session. Should show different results.

FWIW, I imported my account's favorites, and the suggested change worked for fetching everything.

Having the pixiv importer automatically add artist ID tags would be awesome. At the moment I have separate subscriptions registered for different artists and add "pixiv artist:######" as additional tag. However it would save much work, just being able to throw all artists in the same subscription and have it tag the ID automatically.

>>10009

could you change the maintenance popup to only come every week or every nth added item in the database? It is hugely annoying to constantly say no.

>>10013

There's still the issue of matching ids to artist names too

>>10015

Could tag parents be used for that? Since an artist might have multiple names, they could all have the pixiv artist ID as parent. I guess if multiple artists used the same name, they could have multiple pixiv artist IDs set as parents. I guess the same could also work for other sites that use unique user IDs, e.g. Nijie, Nico Seiga, etc.

>>9943

Got some questions Dev.

1. Does Hydrus strip exif info on importing files to the db?

2. Does it keep the original created/modified/accessed dates for the files themselves once imported, or does it it generate new ones for the import time?

3. You've mentioned before about there (eventually) being a way to keep the original file dates as tags when importing. What's the best way to preserve this info so I can import my files now and apply that info later? Converting chan filenames (I keep the original filenames as tags) to their unix time might be do-able, and then figure out a way to take the info from the filenames and apply it as dates. But that would leave out non-chan stuff. Should I simply attempt to add them as tags now and hope they'll work with that eventual system/format? Some script to append them to the filenames and a regex to catch them perhaps? That would mess with my original filename tags however.

>>10018

I suppose that's a solution. I think it would be better if there was a way for the mass pixiv subscription to add tags on import for each id. That or if each id opened to different listing, like the old way did, instead of a giant pixiv page then you could manually figure out who did what rather easily.

Maybe the pixiv sub could append the id as a tag automatically as a special case, just to keep track. Then you could parent/sibling the id to the artist names and it would take care of itself.

I'm trying to configure zoom on mouse wheel for one handed viewing mode. Can anybody please help with this?

I removed the view next/previous shortcuts that use the mouse wheel by default.

Then added the mouse wheel for zoom in/out and applied all changes. It still uses the wheel for browsing though.

I've read the part that ctrl+mouse wheel is hard coded for zoom, but that shouldn't prevent me from adding an additional shortcut for the same function. Using the mouse wheel for browsing isn't mentioned as hardcoded, but apparently it is.

Can we please get the hardcoded media viewer shortcuts removed anyway? I fail to see the need for these. The browser ones are more understandable, but making them user-editable wouldn't seem to prevent it from working correctly.

>>10012

Thanks. I tried it myself actually in hydrus and managed to get lewds, so I've rolled a test it into this week's release. Let me know how it works with you.

If it turns out persistent usage locks in a filter via sessions or whatever, I'll just write an api parser. Thanks again for your help.

>>10014

Thanks, this is a good idea. There's a bit of this already (where it only counts as needing work if there are like >100 similar file branches to rebalance or whatever) but that wouldn't kick in if you say no.

I'll make a note of this and see if I can figure out a couple of options. Maybe 'only give me a shutdown yes/no once per x days'.

>>10016

Thank you for this report. Yeah, some of the new sizing system is borked due to some min sizes. I have a plan to write some of my own sizers to more dynamically size this stuff while still permitting min heights for the controls that need it. At the moment, I am using some stock sizers, and they don't calculate combinations of static and dynamic heights in a conservative way.

>>10013

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>>10019

I'd say associating 'pixiv id:123456' with 'creator:ching chong' is probably a job best solved by a future iteration of the tag siblings system. When tags have more metadata and you can right-click on them and get an automatically formatted wiki entry on them with known synonyms and all that a bit better than the current system, and if users could choose how to display all that, I think then you'd want to start putting in the effort.

You could do it with parents now, which would state both tags, but since the tags are true synonyms, the direction is probably siblings.

I don't know though. The problem of 'artist "x" is called "xdraws" on this other booru' is a persistent issue, not yet neatly solved in hydrus.

>>10019

1 - No. Other than bmps (which are automatically converted to png on import) hydrus should keep all files exactly the same, byte for byte.

2 - Yeah, should do these days. At some point, this info should be cached and searchable. Accessed will change any time you look at it, obviously.

3 - When I add that cache, I'll probably add it as a new kind of metadata, rather than explicit tags, which don't store specific timestamps efficiently, and search for it with a new system predicate, like 'system:time imported', but 'system:file creation/modified time'. If you want to search this info, just keep importing as normal–since it is preserved through import, no information is being lost, and when I make the cache, I'll retroactively fill it with existing file data.

>>10023

Thank you for this report. I am still moving all my old shortcut code to the new system. Mouse shortcuts are not well supported at all yet–the code is just not yet in to handle it. I hope to have more time to put into this as the downloader overhaul comes to a close.

>>10029

Thanks. That will be awesome.