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File: 7b8581a5fa71c07⋯.png (2.1 MB,1238x775,1238:775,jack.png)

 No.7680 [Last50 Posts]

it's a really expansive game, there really should be a dedicated thread for it.

Originally made by some russian guy, Jack o nines is a game about buying randomly generated slaves and training them to sell back at a higher price. As you go, you earn reputation for your brand, and renown around town. There's different characters to play as, each with their own stats for varying difficulty. Personally I just screw around in the sandbox mode

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 No.7681

Jack-O-Nine is /hgg/ territory

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 No.7682

>>7681

Incorrect. You train harlots in this game. Lots of harlots. That's pretty much all you do in this game. So off you go, faggot.

Though this game *had* a thread which saged out because it's an old game with not much modding/updating happening anymore. That said, it's still a pretty good game, considered pure cancer in Russia which is a mark of success I guess.

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 No.7686

This and Violated Heroine are my favourite H games but unfortunately I've played them to hell and back. Any more like 'em?

By the way, Jack o' Nine's latest and most updated version is Hongfire's. There was an anon on /hgg/ that wanted to build upon it, port it to another engine and whatnot but he bailed. Too bad, I would have playtested.

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 No.7698

Never got into it.

What exactly is so special about it?

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 No.7701

>>7698

lots of options, relatively "real" acting girls, decent writing and pictures for how old it is.

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 No.7703

>>7701

>>7698

Also you can butcher bitches that piss you off too much (tbh there are also other ways to kill em, but why waste good materials/food?)

And it's rather complex

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 No.7716

what is the appeal of training girls into slaves? it's so unrealistic

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 No.7717

>>7716

>it's so unrealistic

Stick to something you know, back to the kitchen.

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 No.7729

>>7686

the sequel/remake died? That sucks

>>7698

Unlike a lot of others, where it's just a small handful of girls, this one has an infinite number of randomly generated slaves to tame, complete with randomly generated backstory. There's a lot of quests as well from the various people in the city, tasking you with training a girl in specific talents, or training a specific girl, and long-term stuff with making a name for yourself. As hinted by >>7703 there's a lot of darker parts to it (butchering girls for meat, making them fight to the death, I think you can also waterboard them among more traditional methods of torture) but there's no obligation to make use of that. In fact, you don't even have to train the slave in sexual stuff. for example, Uncle Bo the tattoo artist wants a virgin loli to cook and sing for him, so you buy a loli off the slave markets and train her in cooking and music.

>>7716

Why are you here?

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 No.7754

>>7729

sounds interesting, might give it a try. so how do i get this game? do i just google it ? or is it like witch trainer with dozens of different modded versions and whatever. if the latter, what version is the best/ do i need?.

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 No.7771

>>7754

Hongfire mod 1.7.5

https://mega.nz/#!h0pUGb7b!flBP9aIzcVyPh9YNS2pV8DHeWBF6P30f7Xl66YNU8VU

And here's the tips page from the wiki since it can be hard for new players to get started:

http://wiki.anime-sharing.com/hgames/index.php?title=Jack-o-nine/Gameplay/Tips

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 No.7774

>>7771

>5.47 GB

u wot m8?

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 No.7791

>>7771

alright will try it out later, thx.

usually i have bad memorys with this kind of games. like slave trainer or whatever it was called. all these random pics from the internet and the same girl looks different in every single pic.

but ill still give it a try.

>>7774

>not having a 100k internet in [current year]

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 No.7802

>>7771

should have given the google drive link that one is six hours

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 No.7814

>>7771

I played the game little bit ago, but what does the hongfire mod add? Anything worth downloading again?

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 No.7838

>>7729

>Why are you here?

to learn what people find interesting about them and see if I can somehow appreciate them

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 No.7853

>>7774

pretty sure 1.7.5 is just 1.7.4 with the bloaty gif pack tacked on.

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 No.7854

>>7814

it's mostly a balance patch, just makes things a touch harder strategywise, no real major changes to the gameplay(except fog fights being impossibly difficult now).

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 No.7966

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>>7853

can confirm

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 No.7967

>>7966

snd is short for sound, btw, and has about 45 meg of moaning and music

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 No.7982

>>7814

Bit of rebalancing and a shitload of new images. Probably bloated, but it's still nice to have enough to have enough to keep things from getting stale.

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 No.13604

>>7774

12 min on my shitty old cable.

stop being a drama qween

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 No.13753

>>7771

Any other link? Apparently I hit a download quota

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 No.13880

God they keep committing suicide. The fuck?

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 No.13910

>>13880

>God they keep committing suicide. The fuck?

extrapolate?

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 No.13959

>>13910

He's a shitty Master that doesn't know how to treat his slaves right, so they're killing themselves because he thinks that beating and raping someone makes them happier

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 No.13968

>>13880

Stick to shaming punishments, rotate rewards, first reward should be clothing. balance their diet, let them have a bedroll, watch their depression, if its to low they run or suicide.

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 No.14010

>>13753

Same here, hit quota at 91% Pretty certain the quota is ~5GB and this is 5.92

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 No.14013

>>14010

Get MegaDownloader, Anon.

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 No.14045

>>13959

shit, I never had that happen to me.

Am… am I too good to them?

Also a question. Can you force some traits with your actions? Like metabolism, pervert, masochist, moronic etc? I know some just bound to character like grace, charming voice or skill proficiencies. Wiki is actually nor really helpful on this, but sometimes some traits activate out of blue and I was wondering if there is a way to force them with hard work.

Thanks in advance

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 No.14070

>>14045

They've either got the trait or they don't. The difference is whether or not you know about it.

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 No.14086

>>14045

I am also rather sure that all traits are hardcoded except for mindbroken.

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 No.14241

>>14045

iirc the traits are set when slave is created, and just hidden. Not "gained" during specific training, only "discovered".

there should be an editor around somewhere, something like a cheat-engine, with which you can customize a slave, if you want a certain combination of traits.>>14045

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 No.14653

Anyone know of a torrent or something for this? File is too big to dl from mega without installing some spyware junk

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 No.14756

>>14653

Just get "MegaDownloader" anon

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 No.15233

>>13880

Take it slow and treat them like they are still a human bean.

It is entirely possible to make even arrogant willful slaves obedient without any punishments simply by treating them nicely. Obedience can be earned through devotion, gained through time, or forced through fear. Best to worst method in that order.

>>14045

It's possible to be too good and spoil them, but it is far better to be too good than too bad. If they are happy everything is gained a lot faster and bad things are avoided easier.

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 No.18282

I want more puffy-wuffy lovey-dovey stuff!

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 No.19957

I do wish that you could be more heavy-handed in this game and eventually work your way to a state in which you never have to reward your slaves.

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 No.20216

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This is my pride and joy. It was Isabella originally. This was on Johny difficulty, no less. After about 15 tries and finally beating it on Johny, I haven't touched it since. Amazing game, though. I spent at least a week chipping away at it and learning all the mechanics. Dug up the source code somewhere to get info that wasn't on the Wiki. Needs much better documentation and guidance, but it was worth the trouble.

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 No.20532

>>20216

everybody would love you forever if you wrote a guidde

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 No.29176

It was hard at first, but it's a pretty good game and once you get the basics, it's pretty easy.

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 No.29713

>>13880

It's a good idea to cast auspex every two or three days to see how their aura develops.

You want fear 4 or 3. If it's more, she lives in too much horror. You don't want despair; that definitely leads to suicidal thoughts.

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There are many ways to play this, but here's some basics:

1. Once you've gotten a slave, it's a good idea to do this checklist:

1. Get a 3$ collar from the bdsm place in the necropolis. Be sure to equip it.

2. Get a brand tattoo at Bo's.

Both of these help the slave accept and adjust to being slave (awareness in the aura). Having these two also means that when the slave escapes, she will be returned to you. If you do things right, few slaves will ever try to escape, but when you're learning this is a godsend.

3. Go to the serpentine, medical place and get your slave a free health check-up. No sense training a slave if she dies a couple of days later due to a fiend parasite eating its way out of her. And if she's got something mild, like an std, it's nice to get her treated before you have sex with her/ rape her and get infected yourself.

4. Make sure to select at least three rules. (on the right when selecting a slave). Fewer than three rules and she won't have enough routine to get used to being a slave. Unless they're very docile, they're probably not going to follow the rules until you've gotten them to be obedient.

5. It can be hard to get some slaves into an obedience cycle. Once you do, everything becomes easier, so fight through the early stuff.

6. At first, it's easier to not train too proud slaves. It's a nice challenge to train proud slaves and there's something fun about it, but it can be hard at first.

7. Smart slaves are quicker to train. If you started with a harder character, it can be good to get a dumber slave. Because they train slower you can repeat the same lesson more often and that way improve more yourself.

8. More endurance gives more energy which means you can do more activities per day. It's usually the best thing to train first. Another way to improve it is by clicking supplements food. (select this on the left on the same screen where you set the rules)

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 No.29746

>>7838

If you cannot find a way to relate then this won't be of your intrest, i'll use myself as an example:

I'm into mind break and corruption, but i'm not into using drugs as i see it as a very cheap way to break someone, from the looks of it there's guro/gore, i'm not into that either but i'll trust this once in those who said it was optional and not something that the players were forced to do.

The main attraction here is to mold a character to your liking, the way of achieving that goal is up to every player, some people appreciate non-linear games, others are ok with just a VN/IN where the goal is reached with just following a pre-determined path.

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 No.29763

>>29746

i like that too… but theyre already slaves. you're not corrupting them, you're forcing them against their will. maybe it's just me, but to me the idea of corruption is about making them -want- to become slaves, it defeats their purpose if you're forcing them.

also, isn't spending your time and money training a girl to please other people better like the ultimate form of NTR?

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 No.29766

>>29763

>NTR NTR NTR NTR

Stop with that, godamn it, i see it on every godamn threads about games with any-kind of sex where the player isn't in

NTR, is when your LOVE INTEREST is stolen away from you, without you being able to do ANYTHING about it

So no

Whoring a girl you don't give a shit about isn't NTR AT ALL

That's actually the exact opposite of NTR

Because not only you don't give a shit about the girl, but you're actually THE ONE making her to have with other dudes and you're THE ONE who get profits from it, not her

So for the godamn last time /htg/ and same for /hgg/, whoring a bitch you don't give a shit about, ISN'T.NTR

THAT'S NOT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO IT

And if you like the girl, make her your secretary, or even let go away for fuck sake

You're already playing a slaver, dosn't mean you have to land a girl you like to every-fuckin-one just to be sure to train her in everyways possibles

If you want to go for a vanilla relationship with a girl, just get a slave (rescue her for maximum vanilla-effect), and just try to build her devotion without sex until she actually want it herself, just like in "Teaching Feelings"

Yeah that's gonna be hard as fuck, but it's do-able and it make perfect sense for it to be hard-as-fuck

That's what so good about Jack-O'-Nine, you can do whatever the fuck you think of

(except raise your kids, sadly)

>>29746

Yeah, there is some guro, but as long as you don't actually seek it yourself (giving your girls to the butcher, or going to the pony races while ignoring all the warnings) you're not gonna get any

At most, a little decapitation in the arena, but that's a freacking arena, and it's pretty fucking tame, they only show a character carrying the head of a corpse, you don't get to see it's severed throat or anything disgusting like that

>>29713

Thanks for the guide, i spent i don't remember how many hours on this fucking amazing game

But i finished it, best house with all the upgrades, filthy-riche, maxed all stats, had all the quest-items/accessory, molded my own perfect secretary from a unwanted 50$ piece of human-garbage, solved all request, became the white-house patriarch

So i basically did every-fucking-things achievable in the whole-fucking-game

And of course, i stopped playing then

And like, 5/6 months ago i tried to play it again

And i was like "holy shit, did i forget how to train fucking slaves? i don't remember it being THAT freacking hard", and i dropped it

Now i can play it again, and i'll try to remember how

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 No.29857

>>29766

what does ntr stand for?

>>29763

You haven't played the game have you? If you don't manage to seduce them into it, they'll either escape or commit suicide. Whenever you give them a command, they have the option to refuse it (and risk punishment). And they often do refuse you.

>>29766

>And i was like "holy shit, did i forget how to train fucking slaves? i don't remember it being THAT freacking hard", and i dropped it

Yeah it's actually pretty hard, but just the beginning. As long as you don't lose, the game can only get easier as you play.

And in how many games can you get a slave to have sex with a spider or tentaclemonster? Pretty unique game. I want to see if I can make it by playing the anime neet pervert with no skills at all besides perversion. Looks pretty hard. I'll get on it now.

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 No.29861

>>29857

NTR is short for Netorare, the Japanese slang for what's essentially cuckolding.

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 No.29863

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>>29766

>Stop with that, godamn it

Sorry for triggering you, cuck.

>The pimp argument again

You're not a pimp, anon, you're a cuck.

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 No.29868

>>29863

Technically speaking the protagonist of almost every hentai game in existence is NOT you, but rather some other individual. You can't avoid watching somebody else getting that booty on the screen. The only way not to get cucked is not to play any games of these sort whatsoever.

Therefore kindly fuck off and take your autism elsewhere.

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 No.29874

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>>29868

>Technically speaking the protagonist of almost every hentai game in existence is NOT you

>More mental gymnastics

>"Arguments" that have been debunked endlessly

You cucks should really look for better defenses than "Everyone who likes porn is a cuck", specially in games where you control faceless protagonist that are meant to be you.

>Kindly fuck off

You don't need to be kind here, anon, you're thinking about Reddit.

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 No.29884

>>20216

>S+ intelligence stat "Intelligent"

>got the "Moronic" perk

kek

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 No.29888

>>29863

No, you're a cuck tho'

Because you feel cucked every-godamn-time someone/a character you know is fucked by anyone else

It's just that fucking easy for you to feel like someone/something belong to you

Like, someone gave asked you to take care of his fucking dog for 3 days, and now he's your fucking bestie and you can't live without him

Stop being a fucking manlet and grow somes balls

You don't have to get emotionnaly attached to every-fucking personns/character you ever "met"

It's 100% possible to know someone and never get attached to him/her

Why should you give a fuck except when you decide to?

Is it that freacking hard to decide when you give a fuck for you?

Do you have 0 control on your emotions?

Are you that emotionnaly instable?

Man, they're fucking slaves, you get them for like 5 fucking dollars, and you sell them for more

They're basically cattle, why should you give a single fuck?

And even if you did cared, why don't you just make her your godamn assistant?

Because, duh, it's a freacking mechanic, if you like a perticuliar slave, you can just make her your assistant

And you don't have to make her have sex without anyone else to make her a great slave

You can simply increase all her stats, exept the sexuals ones like bestiality and groups

Keeping a slave with S+ stats everywhere, while she never had any form of relationship with anyone else than you

You could even let her go away if you're such a emotional fag

What are you gonna do, RP as a fucking love-bird that buy every fucking slaves he see, and try to raise their devotion, and then free them?

Yeah, wonder how long you gonna be playing the fucking game until you must pay the fucking rent and your game is over, dum-dumb

>>29868

I feel like you're going way too far, but i guess it's subjective

Kinda depend on how you play/feel the game

I, like to put myself into the character when he dosn't show any personnality traits

For exemple in Jack-O'-Nine, he never talk, so all the personnality he build, is based on your actions

He's what the player(i) do, therefore he's the player(me)

So when MC get ass, i feel like i got ass

But when the character already show his own personnality in some way, i distance myself from him

Like in Fallout New Vegas, MC is clearly influenced by the player choices, but the player can't say whatever the fuck he want to say, he only get to choose between a limited number of answers, and they're all answers i didn't made

He say things the player(i) didn't say, therefore he's not the player(me)

So no, i can't see how you can "feel" ntr-ed by the game except if you're a massive emotional faggot ( but why would you be here in the first place then?)

But then again, i never played any "cuck-games", i play a lot of trainer, but it's impossible for me to make any forms of emotional attachement with the characters, because well

First you play as a fucking slaver, and if MC dosn't give a fuck, why should i?

And second the characters you build a relationship with (the slaves) are all the fucking sames with somes slights differences, so it feel like they're just cattle, of course they're all slightly differents, but they're all mainly the fucking same

Also, you're not watching shows/movies feeling like you're the fucking main-character right?

You're always just a observer right?

You feel what the character is going throught, but from a observer perspective

Therefore when he get cucked, you don't get cucked

You're supposed to feel angry or sad for him, but you're not supposed to feel cucked yourself

Because you're not the MC

Therefore it's impossible for you to feel what he feel, you can only feel what he's going throught

That's what i like about fictions, watching a hero rise and do things i can't do

I like watching the Courier going against the mains power in Vegas

I like watching the Nameless One trying to get his mortality back

I like watching Link going against hell and heaven to save Hyrule

But i never feel like i'm them

I feel like i'm with them, but i don't feel like i'm them

So no, i'm gonna disagree with you on that one

I can understand your point of view, but if think it's being too much of a emotional faggot

It's just my opinion tho'

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 No.29891

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>>29888

Anon, are you new here? What a fucking shitty formatting, your post is simply ugly.

>It's just that fucking easy for you to feel like someone/something belong to you

I'm sorry, for feeling entitled to own females in games about fucking females, anon, specially when they are presented as my females, but somehow is not stupid nor cuckolding to share MY females. The sole reason you could have to play these games is so you can use an avatar character to fuck females, but I have a better idea, what if you take those females so others can fuck them? Totally not cuckolding at all.

>Stop being a fucking manlet and grow somes balls

I wasn't aware you were such an stag yourself, anon, "manly" enough to let yourself be cucked. My apologies. Keep sharing your women like the manly man you are, anon.

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 No.29894

>>29891

>this nigga thinks pimps are cuckolds because other people fuck their prostitutes.

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 No.29904

>>29894

Pimps don't rise their whores personally, anon, the only thing pimps do is ask for the cash. Being so involved in the process makes you a cuck, specially since the process is the whole point of these games. Good brothel management usually consist in unimportant character that you don't interact with something other than assigning some jobs to them, but these games are designed so you put some effort on it to end up cucked.

As I said, you're not a pimp, pimps don't work like that, you're just a cuck in denial that share his property because you can't get money any other way.

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 No.29925

>>29904

>what is a loverboy.jpg

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 No.29926

>>29925

I wouldn't know, I'm not a nigger.

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 No.29934

File: 7506aba0e0f36e0⋯.jpg (105.61 KB,1024x683,1024:683,654zer465y6z54u89u456468az….jpg)

>>29891

>anon anon anon anon anon anon

Yeah, that's what i thought, that's what faggots like you can't hold a conversation properly

Because whenever faggots runs out of arguments (if they ever had one), they're just gonna try to poke fun at their opposent

Because they can't share their point of view for jackshit without getting wrecked by more intelligents peoples

Anyway, since you're obviously clinically retarded, i will just say it for the last time

Cattle =/= Human

Female Cattle =/= Female Human

They're basically human-cows, and you sell them

And for the last time "if you really like a slave, you can either free her, or take her as your assistant, you don't have to share her with anyone"

Just to let you know anon, feeling attached to any-fucking-one/any-fucking-thing isn't healthy for you

Stop being a emotional-virgin-faggot, and go fuck a hooker, and see if the pimp give a single FUCK about what she does

>>29904

>pimps don't raise their whore

Are you retarded?

That's exactly what they does, they pick weakened targets they're personnally aware of

Btw, how the fuck do you think they meet their "workers" at all dum-dumb?

By knowing them firsthand, idiot

So they're already deeply involved with the girl

Most of the time either he know her weakness (debt, drugs, alcohol, homeless) because she shared them with him, and that means he's either a friend, a lover, or a family member

Or because he's the one responsable for her weakness, (like the one who made her into a junkie)

Either way, it's the same fucking thing, they're already deeply involved, and they're always involved personnaly

Wtf is going in your cave-basement-virgin-dweller mind?

You think they get their whores at the dollar shop or something, idiot?

You think they're introduced by friends, and then they go through a fucking job interview?

You think they take fucking letters of recomendation and then hire them by fucking mails?

Are you that fucking retarded?

And YES, they train their whores themselves

Either by having sex with them, or by experience

And that's the same fucking thing as in the game

In the game, you train the whores by either having sex with them, or having someone else does

And IRL, they train them by whoring them

Raising both their submission because it condition them, and it make them feel less and less bad/guilty about selling their body

Holy fucking shit, you're the worst delusional-easily-attached-virgin-faggot i've ever fucking talked with

You're so insecure about your relationships with others, that it's impossible for you to put any forms of distance between you and someone else as long as you had any kind of relationship with him/her

You're the kind of niggers who feel betrayed when a girl they talked once in their fucking life shit-talk them in their fucking back

Stop being such fucking lovers-cherry-boys, and get laid godamn it

I bet you got wrecked by a female friend once in your life, like you loved her, but she didn't, and being the fedora faggot you are, you probably thought "what a bitch, i'm the best person she knows, she should belong to me"

That would explain why you're such a faggot

I know it's /htg/, but you don't have to be both such a virgin, and so fucking delusional about peoples and relationships

Anyway, last time i responded to faggots like you

Go out of your fucking basement, and talk to actual peoples for once

You can do both, it's not impossible

Get laid

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 No.29935

How the fuck is it being a cuck? This isn't some shitty harem game they're your girls in that you OWN them, they are property, not companions.

You're clearly a pimp, unless you have feelings for them then that makes you a cuck.

Actually, an über cuck for having feelings for 2D animu girls and wanting them to be your lovers in a game about pimping their fuckholes out for money.

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 No.29936

>>29935

Yeah, they are my property.

I don't want to share my property anon. It's that simple. maybe some people just want to train slaves for myself like slave trainer.

Not everyone gets off on imaging our property being taken from us.

cuck.

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 No.29937

>>29936

There's a time and place to have discussions about morality, sexual fidelity, honour, but I don't think the chan for training virtual sex slaves is where it's at.

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 No.29940

>>29936

So you would buy a restaurant, cookers, dishwashers etc.

And then not run a fucking restaurant?

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 No.29950

>>29940

Nope, I'd keep it to myself and live in it.

No idea why i'd buy those things though, doesn't sound like a good idea since I can't cook or anything, to be honest anon, I don't think that comparison works at all.

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 No.29974

>>29934

>Cattle =/= Human

>Female Cattle =/= Female Human

>They're basically human-cows, and you sell them

But they are humans. anon, look at the picture in OP and some other pictures ITT and tell me they are not human. Good slave games makes whatever possible to make slaves as little human as possible, stripping them from emotion to exactly be that, cattle, but that's not true in this game, is it, anon? in this game you have yo raise them, giving them emotion, and by whoring them you're pretty much a cuck, anon. I'm sorry you have to be a cuck, but it's time to accept reality.

>Btw, how the fuck do you think they meet their "workers" at all dum-dumb?

>By knowing them firsthand, idiot

>What is kiddnapping

>What is neccesity

>What is simply being a whore

See anon, there's this thing called human trafficking where you pretty much forcefully take people to work as whores. There are also whores that are whores simply because they are too stupid to do something else, either by necessity or because they really like the things their sugar daddy gift them. I don't know in what century do you live, but you're either a pimp, or an slave trader, they both work completely different, but here is the thing, none of them are directly involved in raising the slave, and in antiquity, in actual slave markets, the point was getting rid of the slave as fast as you could¡. The only place where there's a "training" is in your fantasies, and even there you do it wrong. In either case, you don't need to exploit a thing or be too involved, that only ever happen in movies, because that's a massive waste of time when you can just make them collaborate at gun point. And why are you doing it wrong you ask? Because you're getting involved directly instead of letting someone else handle it like slave traders and fucking pimps do, the later being a lot less involved since whores just come to him instead of the other way around.

>You think they're introduced by friends, and then they go through a fucking job interview?

Actually, that's exactly how it works, they even have fancy term for that now, something you'd know if you weren't so socially awkward. They used to be called lady-in-waiting and now they are escorts or whatever the fuck you want to call them. But nah, indulge in your shitty cuck fantasy, anon.

>G-get laid virgin!

>All this projection

I don't know, anon, I don't think a non-virgin would be so in-depth about emotional attachment as you are. As I said, you don't need threat cattle as humans, but that is what this game does. In fact, slaves usually wore masks and gags so the slavers wouldn't develop any feeling toward them that were only removed during sales, but seeing how there are no masks in these slaves, I wouldn't call it an slave simulator, more like a cuck simulator.

I do love brothel games, anon, but they are hardly well done, and this is not one of them.

>>29935

Marrying a woman counted as owning her, having a daughter counted as you owning her, and even if you didn't have any particular feeling toward them, letting them fuck other people made you and still does makes you a cuckold. Sharing your property is the gayest thing you can do, specially if it's a woman, and it on itself is the very definition of cuckolding, only recently was the sentimental bullshit added, but that's not a requirement. You are not a pimp, anon, and it's more pathetic that you think you're a 2D pimp or something, you're a cuck whether it is 2D or 3D.

>>29937

Are you new?

>>29940

It's more like building a restaurant, hiring cookers, dishwashers and waitresses, and then whoring them all because you're fucking shit at owning a restaurant.

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 No.29978

>>29974

Fucking how? The whoring industry is not the same as the food industry.

These bitches are whores, not waitresses or chefs.

It's their job to fuck people and you make them do it, they're hardly attached to you as anything more than slaves. They are workers and their job is to fuck.

How can a fucking slave who is there to go fuck people for a job possibly be engaging in infedelity when they're not remotely meant to be faithful to you?

If your wife makes dinner for you and your friends is she cucking you by feeding people other than you?

If you think it's cucking then you must think you're supposed to be attached to them, like you want it to be cucking when it isn't. If that's your thing you do you.

But you're clearly a pimp/slave master in this game.

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 No.29983

>>29978

The main problem there is most come here for games to fap to. And IDK about you, but I don't find the idea of being a pimp fapworthy.

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 No.29987

File: af8739eb62ac64d⋯.jpg (20.2 KB,480x360,4:3,disguy.jpg)

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 No.29994

File: c6e2e853ab8f5a6⋯.png (346.39 KB,1919x1079,1919:1079,Capture.PNG)

>>29978

>The whoring industry

What the fuck do you mean by the whoring industry? Are you retarded? Do you seriously believe that prostitution is an industry or something? Particularly the one is this game that fits more with slavery in a half assed way? As a fucking slaver you should manage them as units, that is what seriously make you "a pimp" of sort, not this "train them" bullshit, and even if you do, it should be an aspect so minuscule in the game that it shouldn't fucking exist. Look at Akabur's game, yes, you kind of "train" Jasmine, but it's just the Genie fucking around and the actual training is done is a fucking school and the most you need to do is assign her her next job. The problem with these games, including princess trainer and particularly this one, is that they give you the job of slaver AND pimp, and that's retarded. You either sell the slave to pimps, or you either buy slaves to order, otherwise you're just a cuck that like to see it's property getting fucked by others.

I recommend you play an actual brothel management game, of the same name, actually, and not cuck games. In this game the slaves are meaningless, wordless and worthless, you only assign them rooms and they do their job until they get a disease and then you sell them. There's a training, but it consist in fucking put her in a room until she breaks and that's about it, it's fucking business, you don't even have an option to be nice to them because that's not your fucking job, unlike this game. In this game you're a cuck that have absolutely no fucking idea how to manage human stock, and you're a delusional faggot that probably plays these games to feel manly even though you're a cuck.

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 No.29997

>>7791

Long live mega's 3 GB DL limitation ._.

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 No.30012

>>29994

except for the fact that the game isn't about "prostitution"

But about market

Slaves are treated as objects/animals, and you train in the way you need to sell them

If you want to sell a slave to a scat-fetichist, you need to train thoses stats

The game isn't a trainer as "prostitution" trainer

It's obviously a market simulator

You find a way to get slaves, either buy them for cheap, or save them

You decide what you want to do with the slave

make her a secretary, train her in general to sell her on the market and get more money, or train her to sell her to a specific NPC with specifics standards

Actually, i don't even remember you can use the slave as a prostitute

At most, you can make her have sex with others to raise her knowledge about group sex

But the game is clear about it's intent of being a slave-market/trainer

And if you think overwhise, you're wrong

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 No.30013

>>29997

get Mega-Downloader

It bypass the GB limitation of Mega

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 No.30016

>>30012

>But about market

>Slaves are treated as objects/animals, and you train in the way you need to sell them

>the game is clear about it's intent of being a slave-market/trainer

If that was true the slave would be a faceless girl with little to no personality when evidently personality is a huge factor in this game. This isn't a market simulator, faggot, it's a visual novel where you have to get cucked at the end after you "train" the "slave". I already gave you a clear example of how it should be done, you're over involved with these girls and you end up cucked, cuck. But go ahead, keep playing your cuck games, I'm alright with actual slave management games.

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 No.30017

>>30013

>Mega-Downloader

Nearly every link I find on google seems to be fake ones.

Do you have a link?

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 No.30019

>>29994

What's game of the pic?

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 No.30023

>>30019

ボクの奴隷娼館 or My Brothel Management. I don't remember where I get it from, though.

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 No.30032

File: ba18dbd1d5aaf02⋯.png (2.24 MB,1273x772,1273:772,ash.PNG)

>>29861

>>29766

Thanks!

So I tried Jonny mode. It seemed pretty impossible, but it ended up working out after a couple of restarts.

I saw later that other people did contract work while using isabelle as a trainer (as soon as you get a house you can pick up isabelle from the fogs).

I hadn't read that, and in any case found another solution: I picked up Isabelle and immediately sold her as a concubine.

Then I spent a week doing fights at the colosseum with an aketon and rapier, and then getting home, wearing livery and do the clean up the house and cook.

I did this until I got both my fighting and housekeeping to a level where I didn't need to change clothes all the time and then I started buying slaves and selling them at the auction (often the best way of making money imho).

I focused on slaves with little pride and weak will. The first one was actually a gifted fighter so I didn't sell her for a considerable time, winning each week in gladitorial matches and keeping the money flowing.

The third one was interesting; she had really good stats and was easy to command but for some reason the sex stuff was making my character really unhappy and she developed sex skills slowly. Turns out she was frigid as hidden stat and just generally didn't like sex. You keep learning new things with this game and it really pays to try to understand each different slave; there are definitely hints in the conversations and such.

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 No.30033

File: eb363ce286dd490⋯.png (1.87 MB,1271x773,1271:773,ketchum.PNG)

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 No.30036

File: 7d19f0feaa34bbe⋯.png (2.3 MB,1265x766,1265:766,metal.PNG)

Just another day in jack o nine tails medical checkups

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 No.30053

>>29936

>property taken from us

You get paid for it. It's not sharing, it's not stealing, it's selling.

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 No.30058

jesus christ i cant believe the whole shitstorm that this thread turned into just because i mentioned the word NTR. you retards should realize how easy you are to troll (which wasn't even my original intention, some other guy just picked the ball and ran with it). protip: if they're using a smug reaction picture, chances are you're a dumbfuck who's getting baited

>>29857

>If you don't manage to seduce them into it, they'll either escape or commit suicide. Whenever you give them a command, they have the option to refuse it (and risk punishment). And they often do refuse you.

you are right I barely played it and did not know that, that makes it slightly better, but the simple fact that they're slaves means you're already forcing them against their will. that's the whole concept of a slave. it's like if they were being blackmailed, yeah they might refuse to be blackmailed but even if they agree it's still against their will

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 No.30065

>>30053

Actually, giving your consent is what makes you a cuck, cuck, whether it is for money or not.

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 No.30072

File: c27ed6464af00a2⋯.png (1.5 MB,1262x780,631:390,addicted.PNG)

>>30058

I mean, I don't disagree that there you can't speak of consent if you look at it that way.

Though typically I find that getting them addicted to your dick is a good strategy for keeping them under control. Pic related.

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 No.30078

>>29994

I'd take it as refering to old times when it was more elaborated that your description, at least in some countries where it was more or less accepted as a thing that high class personalities would indulge or just outright rich folks

>>29763

Depends how much you believe that you are a character and what's your objective.

Some people are just playing it for the money, to become rich.

Some play it because they want to believe that are some pimp slumlord

I've yet to play the game fully besides having the hardmode character die in a hardcore setting but i think you can give the slave a job, skipping the whole "Selling your waifu" thing.

Again it depends on how much of a self-insert the player is, you could just say that people play it to have the characters die and you'll still be right about some that play the game for that reason.

Also having them serve you willingly is not equal to mindbreaking them into only depending on you while also turning them into a nympho.

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 No.30084

>>30078

>I've yet to play the game fully besides having the hardmode character die in a hardcore setting but i think you can give the slave a job, skipping the whole "Selling your waifu" thing.

I don't think you can continue to make money without selling slaves.

First time I played I actually went a path like that though; I kept a girl a vaginal virgin as my assistant and decided I wouldn't break it until much later.

You can have 2 girls as employees that you don't pimp out as far as I know, one trainer/assistant and one to look after your stable (never done that, just read about it).

However even if you decide that path, if you want to progress in the game you have to train and sell slaves.

I don't think you can make enough money winning races and fights with a girl to sustain financially. I guess it could work if you go out into the fogs and fight monsters, rescue girls, and then sell them on the slave market without trading them.

You know what, maybe I should try a run like that sometime. Though a big part of the game is closed off as you need to sell developed slaves to the right people to rise socially.

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 No.30089

>>30084

I tried starting a new game and accepting jobs from the slavers, that went worse since i couldn't break the slaves to train them… then i just started on easy mode and learned how to break the slaves without causing them to suicide… just to end up dying anyways because i learned it too late (this also include reading and understanding most of the meanings of the different kinds of aura).

And maybe it works as a midgame goal when you can maintain yourself long enough to train a personal slave enough to be an assistant/secretary then resue.

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 No.30175

>>30089

The start is always the hardest part of this game. It becomes easy pretty quickly, especially after you've sold a C+ slave.

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 No.30191

>>30023

What a shame. I can't seem to find a good copy anywhere.

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 No.30210

>>30084

>I don't think you can continue to make money without selling slaves.

Normally that is correct, but there is a way to keep your slaves, tough it may not be enough depending on your expenses and cannot be done at the beginning of the game, it's a while i don't play tough so bear with me

-Reach the external rings of the city

-Go toward the fog and wait for a random fight

-Win the fight and get a random girl

-Even without branding them, in the rich district one the merchant can sell the slave on the black market, just take a day

-Profit?

The profit are relatively good and it can sustain you, but the random fight in the fog are somewhat hard and you need good equipment already, you also risk injury or game over so save scumming is a must, there are some guide on how to be very effective in combat on this game, seek them out and spam the combo as much as you can

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 No.30459

>>30191

>>30191

I got a link to a good copy of thehongfiremod version from the jack o nine tails wiki.

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 No.30466

I don't quite get the logic in this game, it seems pointlessly overcomplicated and silly.

First slave I had, couldn't get her to massage me.

But I could train her to be fucked by dogs and horses.

'cause…y'know.

Virgins love being fucked by horses.

How old is this game? Is it ongoing?

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 No.30467

>>30466

It's russian, so that should answer any gameplay/story questions.

It's also pretty old, so no, it's finished.

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 No.30470

>>30466

>>30466

Actually it's possible she had hidden stats like horselover that you hadn't discovered yet

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 No.30476

>>30470

Doesn't it say though? I got an assistant chick who loves absolutely everything, even scat and every time it came up with some spiel about how she likes sexual stuff a lot.

Tried the dog and horse training with a couple of different slaves and it just seems to let you provided the girl isn't major depressed or whatever.

Personally I prefer the way SlaveMaker operates, shame that game is dead.

The options on how you break girls are pretty good. Especially when you make them love you but sell them anyway, top kek.

And if you can't be arsed doing it the long way you can just make them masturbate constantly for max obedience.

Just seems so much more fun.

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 No.30712

i figure that would be too easy if this really were like i think but the wiki says:

Virgin's Hip (Bartender) Serpentine Quarter D+ Servant and no charm req on JACK HF

but when i have a D+ Servant the bartender says it needs to be "healty and strong" and my servant its "enduring"

i can't seem to find what are the real req for virgin's hip bartender D+ servants, someone can guide me on what im missing?

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 No.30878

>>30712

>>30712

>>30712

I never sell to establishments (no big reason), so this is only my presumption.

But 1. Is she really a waitress? (Cooking B+ housekeeping B+ ?)

2. I am not sure, but when I fail to sell to private clients, I can never sell her to them,no matter how much I improve her. Maybe it's like that with establishments?

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 No.30925

>>30878

thanks but i realized that even with the stethoscope not always you see the rot thing sickness and that was

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 No.31063

>>30925

>>30925

>>30925

Oh is that what the stethoscope is for?

I always wondered.

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 No.31139

>>30925

maybe you need high medical skill for it to be accurate?

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 No.31141

>>31139

Well, it have been pretty spot on.

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 No.31152

>>31063

It gives you a chance of spotting sickness (usually not a big deal) and I think it always spots pregnancy (pretty big deal since if you leave that for more than a week or so she either dies giving birth to a fiend or gets taken away by the church)

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 No.31715

After returning to the game after a year and some change of time away it feels needlessly tedious to make any slave now and up its own ass in terms of things that were hardly ever a problem in earlier versions such as "spoiling" a slave and the like.

And yet it doesnt seem to follow it's own rules. At first I welcomed the new spike in difficulty and was happy to see actual impacts on how the "!" statements you could make finally seemed to have an effect. But after a few hours it doesnt seem like time spent with the master and raising devotion gives ANY sort of hampering to the effects of spoiling, terrifying, or whatever else can happen to your slave. In this last hour of painstakingly save scumming, screenshotting, and comparing stat sheets I can with 100% confidence say that I did nothing of the above in terms of spoiling behavior yet lo' and behold a few weeks in my slave was a brat with "pink iridescence of spoiling everywhere" when only being given 1-rank rewards, when they should have gotten much higher ones, at only the 2 max rewards per day as stated in the readme. I detached myself from the game afterwards and just tried to grind devotion, all sense of entertainment that the older versions gave me now being thoroughly gone, and see if that would have an effect. Nope. Apparently they still became spoiled in the same 2-3 week period with no traits that would effect the stat.

Then theres the actual rules and training. They may end up doing the task with no fuss when the day is ended and its automatically done such as cleaning, bathing, and cooking but lawdy mercy if you try to make them do it manually they wont do it for….reasons. Sure they'll do the blowjob, licking, and deepthroat training willingly and up to max with nary a complaint, but go for gentle oral sex option or morning blowjob and get another refusal for…more reasons. I feel like they put way too much into spoiling the slave, and gave whatever values the two other possible "fuck you" attributes like Nature and Temperament on par with Pride. And then amped them all up by a factor of 2.

Unless they are borderline insane, suffering from near max fear/terror, and are constantly treated like shit there doesn't seem to be any way to reliably interact with them outside the training aspect of the game. Which sucks because I used to love playing this game. Am I blind and am just missing a new mechanic, or is it just impossible to be even relatively humane to a slave anymore if you want to get anything done?

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 No.32789

>>31715

It's just like with real women. Once they are kinda happy and in love, you have to be careful to not give them as they ask. The little dots of reward/punishment are her subjective expectation of reward punishment. The more spoiled she becomes, the higher reward dots she gets for even simple tasks.

Once they're devoted, keep a trail of breadcrumb support, but don't try to give her exactly as she deserves. She will get lazy with that. I find that for most slaves, once they're devoted, it works fine to only give one reward per day. Typically a massage to get an extra energy.

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 No.32799

>>32789

Do you happen to remember how devotion worked in the the non-HF version?

Was trying to make an arena champion for the ring quest but she had 1 devotion, 2 fear. Tried giving garden reward, erotic reward, not punishing, dates- everything on the wiki page Thirty or forty days later, absolutely no change in those auras.

Eventually gave up and gave her the reset aura and +devotion potions.

Got one slave to 3 devotion, but no clue how.

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 No.32882

>>31715

Speaking of JackHF …

Certain rules increase spoiling rate overnight if the slave is not devoted enough.

If less than 3 rules active (only rules on right side of screen count; force rules counts as a rule too) then spoil rate goes up overnight.

Sleep in boudoir - raises spoil rate by 5 * sensitivity if not devoted at all, else raises spoil rate by 1 per night if less than 4 stars devotion

Eat my leftovers - raises spoil rate by 5 * sensitivity if not devoted at all, by 2 * sensitivity if 1 star devotion, else by 1 per night while devotion is less than 5 stars.

Giving fresh food has spoil penalty of 3 * sensitivity for not devoted at all, and 1 per night for less than 4 stars.

Spoil rate also goes up if you reward more than 2 times per day or if you end day with sin (slave unpunished, red number 1-5).

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 No.32883

>>32882

Spoil rate also goes down overnight if you have at least 3 rules enabled. It is reduced by (1 + devotion + fear + despair). It is further reduced by the slave's sensitivity level if the slave's mood is red (below calm).

This effectively offsets the small spoil rate increases from the rules above. For example, a slave with devotion 2 loses 3 spoil rate (1 + 2 for devotion) each night, so you could have fresh food (+1 per night) and leftovers (+1 per night) and boudoir (+1 per night) with no net change in spoil rate.

Spoil rate accumulates just like other attributes and skills (once you get to the threshold for the rate, the associated attribute changes and the rate resets to zero):

10, 20, 40, 80

So for example, an unspoiled slave that accumulates 10 spoil rate will convert to 1 level of spoil. That slave would need an additional 20 spoil rate to convert to 2nd level spoil.

The "put in place" action is very useful for reducing spoil rate. There's no real downside, so use it whenever it is available (only when the slave has non-zero spoil level).

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 No.32885

>>31715

Obedience determines resistance to most non-sexual actions. Sex sum (sum of levels of sex skills) also effects resistance to sexual actions. Once devotion and other aura stats rise, fear is no longer needed to maintain high obedience. Angst/despair over time causes stats to decrease so it's best to reduce slaves despair as soon as you can.

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 No.32887

>>30210

Also the payment for winning arena fights increases with the number of fights previously won by the slave. Once you have an arena champion, fighting a fiend gives the most sparks. As your reputation rises, you can send your slaves to the arena multiple times per day. Since tonic elixir has permanent effects, it's not advisable to use, but you can keep multiple arena champion slaves in cryo storage with full energy and cycle through them on the arena days for ~350 sparks for each fiend fight.

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 No.33066

>>30084

Another way to get sparks without selling slaves is the Barn (Jack HF) - After modifying slaves at the Medical Center, you can put a Cow slave (permanent lactation, improved by max size breasts) and a Chicken slave (oviparity) in your barn and a Farmhand to look after them. But don't put a Pig slave unless you don't mind them being killed… This isn't a great source of income but you can keep more slaves this way.

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 No.33078

>>32799

If you are going for maximum devotion, use the devotion potion (philtre) when the slave has 4 stars. It provides 50 devotion rate, so if you use it earlier, part of its effect is wasted.

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 No.33085

>>33078

What is the benefit of >4 devotion?

Seems easy enough to keep them cheerful/ecstatic even with shitty food and the bedroll.

Also, any tips for combat? Green combat skill, combined armor and two of the special quest rewards. Everything in the fog one-shots me.

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 No.33153

>>33085

5 devotion is required for S-/S+ rank. Devotion contributes to charm, which improves the slave's appeal to buyers and raises maximum value in guild auctions.

More devotion improves 'openmindedness' in active sex, effectiveness of 'spend time with' rewards, and effectiveness of 'encourage' action. It reduces resistance to pet and horse training. It makes fear and despair reduce faster. It offsets negative mood after losing virginity. It improves diligence in all tasks. It also offsets negative effects of rape (as do arousal and habit).

Each reward category gives a separate bonus to mood, and lasts for a number of days equal to the level of reward given. Therefore, giving a variety of rewards is best.

For fog combat, it helps to have healing balm.

Always set your defense type to a color that the enemy isn't using or that the enemy doesn't do much damage with (to avoid one-shot double damage) or to a color where you have a reduce damage buff. For example, when fighting a werewolf in the fog, which does a lot of red damage, don't set your defense type to red (block). The bull ring artifact is very useful for its health bonus. You should also use the Aketon for its +1 bonus to fighting skill and have maximum strength (https://wiki.anime-sharing.com/hgames/index.php?title=Jack-o-nine/Gameplay/Slaver#Strength).

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 No.33243

There are some exploitable bugs (as of latest HF release) that probably have been around for a while:

- Delikacia spell can be used more than twice a day without causing spoiling; the spell increases devotion rate based on slaver's mage skill, regardless of the slave's merit, so it can be used to quickly build devotion and bypass the obedience-through-fear while building taming/habit/awareness phase

- Food treat rewards can be given more than twice per day without causing spoiling (as long as the slave has earned enough merit); giving lots of ambrosia for example allows for quickly raising a slave's stamina (at the cost of 25 sparks each, of course)

- Putting a slave into the dungeon and then taking them out again immediately resets the 'already did this' tracking for activities and skills training, which allows for a slave to be rewarded multiple times for training the same skill on the same day, by cycling the slave in and out of the dungeon after each training+reward action

- Putting a slave into the dungeon and taking them out also resets the 'already fought in the arena' tracking so the same slave can be sent to the arena again on the same day (as long as the slave also has at least 2 energy) – note this does not bypass the separate limit on the total number of arena fights per day, based on the slaver's reputation

- Taking a bath individually does not cost energy, but when the slave bathes master rule is enabled, bathing does cost energy

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 No.33250

>>33153

Thanks, I assumed the low level potions wouldn't be useful but the balm is crazy effective. Of course, after getting the other two magic items all the fights became almost trivial.

Just so I have this straight, in order to get a slave to S+, she has to have all the 'standard' sex skills maxed? Seems pretty stupid for the clients who want S -rank virgins. The hymen can be fixed, yeah, but I don't like the idea of selling virgins who happen to be gangbang queens with rectal prolapse.

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 No.33257

>>33250

You can have an S+ slave with only threesome and bukkake maxed (no double / triple / gangbang).

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 No.33260

>>33257

In fact you just need sex skill sum of 25. Any combination of sex skills can be used to reach that sum, as long as at least 4 sex skills are S+.

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 No.33261

>>33260

An S+ concubine (specialization) however needs at least 3rd rank in each of the standard sex skill categories (petting, oral, penetration, orgy, roleplay). The rank of each category is the sum of the skill levels in the category divided by 5. So third rank is minimum of 15 in the category; 3 skills maxed or 5 skills at 3rd level or somewhere in between. This means you would have to train at least one of the multiple-male-partner skills to have an S+ concubine.

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 No.33263

>>33257

Did some testing. You are correct - for S+, since it needs both sex sum of 25 and 4 maxed sex skills, you can't avoid training vaginal. If you max both fetishism and vaginal skill, you can leave vaginal fisting at A+. But if you max both vaginal and fisting, you can completely skip one skill from fetishism. I usually skip scatology. Either way assumes you max threesome and bukkake and all of the petting, oral and roleplay skills.

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 No.33264

>>33263

Turns out you can skip two skills from fetishism and still have an S+ slave. You need 4 S+ sex skill categories, one C- category and one B+ category. C- can be two maxed skills in a category (for example threesome + bukkake). B+ is 3 maxed skills in a category (… or all skills in the category at 3rd rank).

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 No.33265

>>33264

Obviously you could choose to make penetration the B+ category and max fetishism instead, if you prefer scat and golden shower to fisting.

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 No.33283

>>33263

Every time I train threesome even once, or dildo up to B, she loses virginity. Oddly, a virgin assistant who participates doesn't lose it.

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 No.33304

>>33283

All of that is correct. The assistant isn't penetrated by the slaver in threesome training, but the slave is. Dildo past B+ is penetrative. Any direct vaginal (or fisting) training is penetrative.

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 No.33560

>>30467

there's still some development being done on the HF thread .. someone put up a new version recently

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 No.33713

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 No.33715

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 No.33721

>>29713

adding a bit to the guide posted earlier (by not the same anon)

4. for 3 rules minimum, it's important to have them over night to avoid spoiling the slave, but you don't need to have all 3 rules active during the day (it may be useful to turn off deny orgasm during sex training, for example). remember that force rules itself counts as a rule for the 3 minimum. vaginal vibes is a good option for non-virgins (you must buy vibes from BDSM shop in necropolis first, but they are reusable so you don't have to buy them again for each slave). force silence is also a good option - it increases sensitivity over night and can be enforced with the gag item (also from BDSM shop). force silence lowers temperament too but that stat is easier to increase through orgasms and various other methods. no masturbating and deny orgasm are also good overnight rules for disobedient slaves because they won't actually want to masturbate if they aren't aroused.

5. the first and second time you 'explain the situation' to the slave using the '!' talk action menu, this gives some fear to the slave without increasing angst/despair. casting tremendio on the slave –before– you 'explain the situation' will give an extra point of fear without increasing despair. if you cast 'tremendio' (or 'cruciatus') when the slave is already afraid, you will increase despair too.

6. for slaves that are haughty, proud or arrogant, you generally need 3-4 fear to get their obedience to a point where they will not resist easy training like fitness, maid and cook. force humility rule, deny toileting rule and wearing items from the BDSM shop in the necropolis overnight will reduce pride rapidly over several days at the cost of negative mood. blowjob/deepthreat, humiliation and golden shower sex skills will also reduce pride a bit with each training. to counter negative mood, try to give rewards from each of the reward categories, as each reward category gives a separate lingering mood bonus for a number of days equal to the level of reward. also wearing a sundress / wedding dress (better but more expensive), soft slippers and headband overnight each give a mood boost.

7. (HF mod) intelligence can be increased by training secretary, nurse, enchantress and music skills. so if your slave doesn't have max intelligence and you plan to do a lot of training, it's beneficial to max some of those skills first.

8. vitamins/supplements only improve slave stamina if the slave's stamina is less than the master's fighter skill. wearing an aketon overnight is therefore useful when giving supplements.

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 No.33722

>>33721

you would think effectiveness of vitamins should be based on the master's medicine skill, though

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 No.33725

>>33721

training tip: once you've maxed one of a slave's sex skills, you won't be able to train it through the quick links from the book at top right or from the slave's personal screen, but you can still navigate to sex education in the left menu to repeat those skill training actions.

you can also access sex skill training for the assistant through the left menus. this allows you to continue training skills that reduce pride even after you've maxed them, if you want. if you're close to the threshold to reduce a level of pride, this can be useful, since the amount of pride lost when you train a sex skill that affects pride is based on the previous level of that sex skill (example: training blowjob from A+ to S+ reduces pride more than training blowjob from D+ to C-).

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 No.33907

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>>33722

Nah, it wouldn't make any sense

Vitamins are pills taken by patients to add to their, well, vitamins needs

It's in pills because pills require no medical attentions

That's the whole points of pills

That's why it dosn't take into account the master medicine

In fact, it should only rely on the slave's health system

>>33721

I think i'm gonna make a new game soon

I've always kinda struggled in the begginning

I never knew if i was supposed to train slaves to D+ rank and sell them, or if i was supposed to train them much better and then sell-them

What should be my priority in early game?

Also

Something always confused me and forced me to sell slaves only to the market for somes reasons

Whenever i tried to sell slaves to characters, they always told me the same thing:

"She's dosn't look healthy"

Even when they had dark-green health, wore clothes, were without any sickness, and were mentaly and emotionnally stables

What's wrong with them, is there a hidden stat i'm not aware of?

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 No.33916

>>33907

if you borrow from the moneylender in the fogs, immediately return what you borrowed, and borrow again, you'll have enough sparks to live on for a few decades

you can sell slaves profitably even at D- rank (first rank above F-) – I'm speaking of the HF mod here

that being said if you get a slave with good stats and want to develop her more and you have enough sparks, there's no harm in doing that, since she'll be worth more at higher rank

it's really up to you

early game the goals are to have enough sparks to live on, to develop skills, and to complete the four special artifact missions from the colosseum. the bull ring from sir aramus is by far the best because it gives you infinite energy.

as the game progresses, you can focus on maxing the master's skills and attributes (eat high quality food, get enough rest and keep positive mood; spar in the colosseum; etc.), building a stockpile of useful potions (after training a skilled enchantress); building reputation with the various districts; moving to better houses; building reputation with the guild; getting all the trophies (winning fog battles with every enemy type; winning many arena events with same slave)

if buyers complain your slave is unhealthy, it could mean they don't have enough stamina or they don't have enough energy (if they have red stars under their portrait) or they are dirty or they have bruises, scars or are recovering from surgery … or they are wounded, ill, infected with a parasite … or mindbroken

no hidden stat though

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 No.33917

>>33916

correction: training D- slaves for guild contracts can be profitable (250 base value, plus up to 350 time bonus, minus 10 per day).

no one else will buy D- rank, except the guild subpurchaser (for 250 sparks).

turning in D+ on a D- contract is better since turning in higher rating than the contract gives a quality bonus of 200 * your brand reputation, or minimum 100.

of course you also can sell D+ slaves to various other buyers for 750 sparks.. so turning in D+ on a D- guild contract is less profitable than selling elsewhere once you have at least 1 rank of brand reputation

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 No.33918

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 No.33936

>>33916

Thanks for the tips

Yes i'm playing on the HF mod

Concerning the "unhealthy" thing

Well, i never sell a slave until it's "sellable"

By that, i mean that i don't sell slaves with wounds, any forms of sickness, bruises, scars, or health problems (fatigue/low energy)

So when i sell a slave, she never have any actual health problems

First thing i train is athletic so her health is always dark-green

I rarely beat them, but when i do i always wait for the bruise to disapear before trying to sell her

I always check for sickness, and cure them when they got somes

I always cover scars

And when they're wounded i always let them the time to heal

Of course, i don't sell mindbroken slaves

TL;DR:

I always make sure she's in top-condition to be sold

Fully clothed, super-healthy, fully rested, nor too fat nor too skiny, tatooed, pierced, rested, scarless, bruiseless, and sickness free

So why do i keep getting the "not healthy" thing?

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 No.33938

>>33936

Upload a saved game where you have this problem and I'll take a look if you want. From what I see in the code, the 'not healthy' response is only for those conditions I mentioned.

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 No.33943

>>33938

Huh boy, i didn't played for a long-time tho'

How do i upload them?

Just with the "select/drop/paste files here"?

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 No.33945

>>33943

sure or go to https://uploadfiles.io/, drag and drop your save game file there (from game/save/ folder) and post the link here

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 No.34039

>>33945

Thanks for the link, but i searched into my save folder and it appears like i deleted all my saves because i wanted to make a clear new installation of the HF-mod

But i think i might guess what was wrong

Do you know if the buyers take the psychologicals stats and moods (others than mindbroken) into accounts?

Like, a slave with low obedience/adoration is counted as "unhealthy"?

Or if a slave with a little fear/despair is also counted as "unhealthy"?

Because i think that might be the mistake i did

Trying to sell physically perfect and healthy slave, but psychologically weakened

But i wouldn't know if it was wrong or not because the buyers never told me anything about "too sad/too scared/not obedient enough" slaves

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 No.34073

>>34039

these are the relevant checks in the code:

if slave['wounds'] > 0 or slave['ill'] > 0 or slave['parasite'] > 0 or slave['energy'] < 0 or slave['stamina'] < 3: $text[1] = $refuse_health_quote[$npc_id]

if slave['reabilitation'] > 0 or slave['bruises'] > 0 or slave['scares'] > 0 or slave['hygiene'] > 3 or $slave_psy_status = 'broken': $text[1] = $refuse_health_quote[$npc_id]

or

if slave['wounds'] > 0 or slave['ill'] > 0 or slave['parasite'] > 0 or slave['energy'] < 0 or slave['stamina'] < 3: sl_txt = 104

if slave['reabilitation'] > 0 or slave['bruises'] > 0 or slave['scares'] > 0 or slave['hygiene'] > 3 or $slave_psy_status = 'broken': sl_txt = 104

if sl_txt = 104: $text[1] = $refuse_health_quote[$npc_id]

the 'broken' psy status occurs if mindbreak is not disabled in options and sanity (sum of pride, nature, temperament) drops below 3.

as you can see, no other moods should result in the health refusal message

for reference, that is: "What are you trying to pull? She is not healthy and strong as she should be. You''ll be lucky to leave here in one piece!'"

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 No.34141

>>34073

>What are you trying to pull? She is not healthy and strong as she should be

That's exactly the message i get everytimes

What are the "Reabilitation", and "Hygienne" stats?

That might be what's wrong

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 No.34319

>>34141

Reabilitation is the "recovery" counter (days remaining until fully recovered) after surgery in the medical center.

Hygiene measures how dirty the slave is; taking a bath, giving hot springs reward, or bath in beauty salon reset slave's hygiene to zero (clean).

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 No.34330

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>>34319

welp, i'm out of ideas

I always make sure they're "reabilited" before trying to sell them

And i always make them go through everything i can to make sure their "presentable" before selling them

Which mean giving them beauty treatements, full-course beauty-salon, tatooed and pierced with only good tatoos/piercings, fully chlothed with good cloths, and wearing boots/heels

And of course, making sure they're fully healed from anything, making sure they're scars-less, sickness-less, and healthy

The only thing i could think-of was their mental health

Like i tend to try to sell depressed (not broken) and rebels slaves without caring about their obedience lvls

But i thought it was because the buyers only cared about the "physical" stats, and if the slave followed the requirements

But since you told me their psy-stats were ignored

Which is weird because back when i used to play the game non-stop

I never had this problem

And that's weird because i'm doing the exact sames things as i did previously

Now i'm left with no fucking clues

I'm totaly lost now

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 No.34342

>>34330

sounds like you're doing everything right. give me a saved game where your slave is refused for this reason and I'll see if I can figure out why

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 No.34343

>>34342

oh and tell me which buyer …

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 No.34354

>>34342

told you again, i don't have any saves anymore

i re-installed the whole game and deleted all my saves

but i'm gonna start a whole new game

and try to train a gladiatrix, as they're the easiest to sell

I'm gonna do everything i can to make her the most "sellable" possible

And if it dosn't works, i'll tell you and upload the save

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 No.34369

>>34354

ok. why are they the easiest to sell?

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 No.34372

>>34369

Sorry, the easiest ones are actually concubines

But i feel like Gladiatrix are fairly easy to trains too because all you have to do is:

make them champions with dark-green health

and then train their nature and temperaments

It can be a little pain in the ass, but as long as you manage them well, and make them keep fighting they will build both fairly easily

I'll train a concubine maybe instead of a gladiatrix

that should be even easier, thanks for reminding me

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 No.34375

>>34372

I think servant is easiest to train. no special stats, just maid and cook skills, which only require low obedience

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 No.34557

>>34372

Concubine is the single hardest slave type to train, followed closely by Pony Girl and Gladiatrix.

I think the problem might be that you're just terrible at this.

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 No.34573

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>>34375

holy-shit you're absolutely right

I've really all my knowledge about the fucking game

I used to think concubine were pretty easy to make because i used to play with a character with a lot of sex-skills in the first place

As for ponygirls, i never really sold many, as it wasn't really my thing

Wasn't too into the races neither

So when i actually needed to train them, i already had most of my stats maxed, and a good training-settup

So it was pretty easy, just had to give them a few potions, reward them well, and train them

>>34557

I wouldn't say that i'm straight-out "terrible"

More like i'm a dumb idiot who forgot all his shit since the last time he played the game

Back when i was still playing the game, i managed to sell slaves with ease

Got my reputation to legendary

Sold slaves to the vatican

Had a nice house, and lived in good conditions

Had a amazing assistant too

I simply lost all the knowledge i had about the game

But i still find weird i get the "what are you trying to pull" message

As i'm doing things exactly as i was before (at least i think)

And i never encountered this problem once before i started playing the game again

And i used to sell a shit-tons of slaves to buyers

As i liked to slowly move-up from quarters to quarters

So, i think i'm probably missing something i used to do

So let's just take one last look to see what i've been doing wrong

I only sell slave when:

They're pierced

Tatooed

Their health is dark-green

They're rested and are full-energy

They're fully-clothed, and well-dressed

They don't have any scars

They don't have any bruises

They don't have any sickness

They're not mind-broken

They're fully reabilitated

What i don't pay attention is:

Their happiness

Their obedience

Their adoration

Their despair (i only watch-out for the "mind-broken statu)

And i'm not sure anymore if i used to make sure they were bathed

I think i do, because i think i remember the bath is part of the full-course at the salon

But i'm not so-sure anymore

So, be honnest with me dude

Where did i fucked-up?

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 No.34585

>>34573

How long has it been since you last played? A few updates ago there were some changes in how some "fundamental" mechanics were treated ( I can only remember how grading the slaves changed and Gladiatrix training requires some extra stats)

In relation to what you asked:

Happiness affects pricing

Despair affects pricing

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 No.34589

>>34573

>So, be honnest with me dude

>Where did i fucked-up?

Well, here's one of them:

>What i don't pay attention is:

>Their happiness

>Their obedience

>Their adoration

>Their despair (i only watch-out for the "mind-broken statu)

Obedience and Devotion are fucking important. No one wants a slave that won't obey them. Are they even of the right rank to sell?

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 No.34607

>>34585

Can't really tell you how long it was since the last time i actually played the game

Maybe two years or three?

>>34589

By "selling" i meant "selling to buyers"

As the NPC you talk to in the differents quarters

I didn't mean i had problems selling them to the market

Of course i know thoses stats are important to sells them on the market

Like "Wight" in necropolis

He's asking for a D+ Witch-Doctor

And he pays 750 sparks for it

So that's what i do

I train a D+ witch-doctor

Make sure she's well dressed and fully-clothed

Make her get the full-course at the salon

Make sure she dosn't have any bruises, scars, wounds, or sickness

Make sure their health is dark-green, because it's the first thing i do with all my slaves

I mean, i think it's obvious that if you're going to buy a slave

You want her to look good with nothing wrong with her and the guy sell her to you right?

But i don't know anymore if they NPCs buyers cares about the slave's devotion, obedience, despair, and/or hapiness

As for the rank

I'm not totaly sure i'm right

So tell me if i'm wrong

But i think it was like:

>If you want to sell a D+ Witch-Doctor

She need to be at least a D+ Nurse and Enchanter

>And her rank need to be D+ too

Right?

Also, if the rank was wrong, they would tell right?

something like "The slave you're trying to sell dosn't meet what i asked, you're lucky to get-out of here in one piece"

Or do they only say one thing when something is wrong, and it's the "unhealthy" message?

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 No.34612

>>34607

>>If you want to sell a D+ Witch-Doctor

>She need to be at least a D+ Nurse and Enchanter

B+

Specializations require either B+ skills or skills equal to the slave rank, whichever is higher.

Also make sure she's not recovering from surgery.

Your assistant will tell you what specializations your slave qualifies for when you click on her.

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 No.34614

>>34612

Yeah you're right

It's B+

But i only tried to sell them when the assistant you get for free (isabella was she called?) told me they were meeting the requirements

So i don't think the ranks requirements would be the problem

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 No.37746

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GOD DAMN Sanity is so annoying. I've been trying to avoid that shit by sending grinding slave fights and it's so tedious. There must be a better way at doing this right? Because it's really pissing me off that all my hard work goes into the drain just because I didn't grind.

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 No.37776

>game has no problem showing almost all fetishes

>except for preg sex because causes the girl to be taken away or die from a gruesome death

pathetic

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 No.37780

>>37776

incest isn't on the list neither

i don't know why, especially since you can already impregnate your slaves

i guess it does have a sense in the lore of the game

so you can't make your own slave-farm and just sell S+ slaves one-after-another

but you should at least be able to use money to keep your daughter to make a slave out-of-her

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 No.37827

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>>15233

> it is far better to be too good than too bad.

Does this mean spoiling them is actually good and best just to leave it until the very end?

Also, giving her rewards which are correct for her still spoils her. For example, when she has (5) I spend time in a restaurant with her. Then she shows spoilage, what's with that?

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 No.37830

>>37780

There's a scene in the brothel where you fuck a mother and daughter combo

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 No.37833

>>37780

Yeah but you can't keep the girl for long though, you have to pay for abortion or she's taken away or dies

Why can't just change it so that the child goes in adoption or you pay a big sum for it to keep it so if that's a daughter you can train her

Or make it so that when she "comes to age" (random from loli to young) she goes to seek you out after you sell the mom or the accountant and you have to break her before start training?

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 No.37983

>>37746

have her dance for you some more then.

That increases the right stats to prevent sanity-break.

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 No.37984

>>37827

She gets spoiled if you reward her too many times in a day. Try to only reward her once or twice.

Once she is spoilt, she expects higher rewards than she deserves and she gets (5) while maybe only deserving (2).

After you've gone through some of her early resistence, it's find to under-reward girls.

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 No.37991

it says the 7z needs a password!! WTF who the fuck did that!

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 No.38025

>>37984

Thing is I only reward her once a day but yet I still get spoilage. Like my current slave, I only just got her and she has 0 spoilage. I train her, give her a fitting reward, then the next day I get a spoil. I've no idea whats going on.

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 No.38071

>>38025

If your slave is loyal, she will obey you regardless of spoilage. At least, I've never had a problem with my pampered servants.

>>34375

The best way to get the most out of your slaves is to have them fight. Be a warrior that teaches and properly equips his slaves and get them to be champions. Even the ugliest of slaves with no other skills will sell as an S rank.

The only issue would be having them be totally devoted to you, otherwise they get granted their freedom as they win the championship match, but devoted slaves return to you afterward.

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 No.38191

>>38025

what rules did you select?

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 No.38548

>>37833

In-game text:

"Did you know that these assholes from the Vatican take away all the pregnant girls for themselves? … all children somehow are born dead" and "I have a son … Not blood-related, of course…"

Eternal Rome has no children, except those that come in through the Fogs. There is one mention of a daughter (Felicity) but this was added by a modder (crushboss, may his name be praised forever) who I think was not quite clear about the pregnancy lore.

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 No.38581

>>7686

I remember that godot faggot. His thread's older than my wife's son.

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 No.38626

>>38548

That was my point

If there's almost every damn fetish but pregnancy is instead not featured because some retarded russian made up a shitty excuse because he didn't like it

>Scat and guro? Hell yeah

>Pregnancy and incest hell NO!!

How retarded the dev is?

If JONT 2 ever comes out it better feature preg and incest content

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 No.38634

has anyone in this thread ever tried playing it on linux?

I did do it a long hell time ago, and basically the same modded version of fastqsp is still used

> https://github.com/ItalianSunglassMovie/FastQSP

I can build it but for the life of me I can't get past this error, even though the library in question is right there

> ./jack: error while loading shared libraries: libqsp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

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 No.38657

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>>38634

I do play it on Linux (the original game. Never tried the HF version). Never had your bug. The library is inside the FastQSPLinux directory, together with three soft links pointing at it.

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 No.38679

>>38657

weird, I did play the newer updated version, and I had to compile fastQSP for myself

I get the same libs and everything, but they don't link automatically

but I did find a workaround and seems to be working fine:

> env LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./ ./jack ….

maybe its something different within the OS itself

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 No.38680

>>38657

>the original game. Never tried the HF version

oh and btw, how does that version hold up, what is different about it?

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 No.38687

>>38679

>maybe its something different within the OS itself

My OS is Ubuntu 16.04.

<Inb4: no Gentoo||Debian||Arch? Get out!

I downloaded the QT5 libraries, following this guide:

https://wiki.qt.io/Install_Qt_5_on_Ubuntu

Then I compiled FASTQSP and tested the game, according to Beaver14's post:

http://www.hongfire.com/forum/forum/hentai-lair/hentai-game-discussion/412491-free-software-jack-o-nine-tails-%C9%94-thread-reboot-v2?p=4722685#post4722685

Everything was fine, except the sound. I solved my problem in a dirty way: I installed the qtmultimedia5-examples package, I copied and pasted the missing libraries (from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/mediaservice to /PATH/TO/QT/5.5/gcc/plugins/mediaservice) and I re-built the FastQSP project.

The FastQSPLinux directory I've mentioned here >>38657 is the "bin" directory: I don't remember why I renamed it, sorry. So my shell script was:

#!/bin/bash
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:./FastQSPLinux
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH
./FastQSPLinux/jack Jack-o-nine-tails/jack.qsp

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 No.38689

>>38687

>Inb4: no Gentoo||Debian||Arch? Get out!

yeah, pretty much, arch here

and according to your script, it seems you needed to do the same thing as I did, I just though executable would read libs from the same folder automatically

and btw, after you compiled the game, you pretty much only need the contents of the bin folder anyway

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 No.38773

>>38680

>oh and btw, how does that version hold up, what is different about it?

It's mostly bug fixes and ease of use stuff. Plus a shitload more pics.

Definitely worth getting over the base game.

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 No.50955

>>38680

definitely a MUST, huge improvement over vanilla.

Be warned tho don't even try 1.7.6, that's HELL difficulty by default, girls will be almost impossible to tame and if you don't micromanage every aspect you're fucked and you get stuck with a spoilt girl that you have to mistreat to break and start all over… no fucking sense. Stick to 1.7.5 HF

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 No.51528

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 No.51656

>>7680

Is this better than slave maker?

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 No.51657

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 No.51704

>>38687

I basically did the same thing years ago, Anon. Setup was cancer, but more stable than wine.

Good job, my dood. Setting up FastQSP is fucking cancer.

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 No.51887

>>51656

Very similar in many ways. This has some more extreme content on the one hand, but the girls are more similar and less unique features on the other.

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 No.53807

I'm having trouble decompressing/extracting the files, could someone please lend me their expertise

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 No.53815

>>53807

Post which file you have downloaded and what the fucking error says.

Maybe you just need to update winrar, or the file hasn't been properly saved and you must download it again.

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 No.54254

Anyone have success getting big payouts from the auction? Playing 1.7.3 and I always seem to get ~2500 regardless of stats, rank, or style.

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 No.54264

>>54254

Devalued if they're broken. Sounds like you've got broken slaves man.

Sanity low + low intellect == can't sell for shit

http://wiki.anime-sharing.com/hgames/index.php?title=Jack-o-nine/Gameplay/Slaves#Sanity_and_Broken_Spirit

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 No.55573

Does anyone have the Grimdark pack and is willing to share?

All the links I found for it are broken…

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 No.56260

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 No.57286

>>54254

Pierce all(necro/steel rose), go full tattoo(outcasts/uncle bo) and buy best clothes/jewelry(trade square). Don't forget full service in Salon. My brand isn't famous yet, but I've got about 4000-8000 for S rank slaves.

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 No.58726

>>38773

>>50955

Oh I actually meant that I had never tried the original version, only the HF.

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 No.59089

>>56260

FYI me, a total stranger who you should not trust, downloaded this file. And it was not a virus. So, use this instead of the mega

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 No.59651

>>55573

I would also like this

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 No.60107

How do you put on the chastity belt? Public shaming is usually the best way to punish but I don't want people taking virginity.

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 No.61652

Anybody have the hgg mod?

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