/htg/ - Harlot Trainer General

Doesn't matter how saturated it is, if you make a game with good looking models and a decent story you will make money.

I do not recommend anyone using Patreon to try to survive, unless it's somebody creating some kind of scam like that game going on in Rome or Monster Island. If you analyze, these are not games, they do not have game play looping, they have no organized ideas, they are just beautiful things running in a 3D engine.

However, if you have the talent to create a story that contains decent characters and hot scenes, then you are most likely to get support as long as your art is not just crap. So I recommend that you try to do something unpretentious and put it on Patreon without high expectations.. Remember that only 14% of devs get over $1000 after 6 months and you'll probably work hard at the beginning to earn very little.

The engine you should use is Renpy.

If you can draw, you have a good advantage. If you want to use DAZ3D or Honey Select, at least you train for a few months to get something decent done, because you have a lot of junk done with those graphics and people have already created a natural rejection against these kind of graphics.

it was never posible in the first place.

to be more precise if you intend to make a game with a good story,good gameplay,good CG then you won't be lucky since you won't get support no matter how good your game is.

now if you intend to run a scam as 90% of patreon users then you just need to know how to lie and keep lying and sell you imagiunary stuff that will be released in 200 years more as most patreon games this point was made by several honest content creators but weird enough all those CC patreons got taken down by violation of patreon rules, for example a game developer making lolicon games barelly got money and the game was good his patreon got taken down when he pointed out most people on patreon are scammers he complained again why his patreon got taken down if everything was legal and fiction compared to other people that got more money for posting toddlercon others converting pics from candydoll with photoshop and claiming was made from scratch still had their patreon active when clearly what they where doing was illegal yet they allowed those users but banned the user pointing out most patreon are scammers they barelly release something and similar stuff.

for example one of the points and rule in patreon is you can't sell the game funded by patreon system on digital stores (some users that finish the games do that which is against rules) you have to release everything once a month for free no matter if you get funds or not (you agree to this when you signup) or what you have made again nobody follow the rules.

If you are for a scam just use the akabur system is the best and the most used to get easy money without doing anything.

If you still want to try, remember that practically all Patreon's top creators started when there was no competition and they paid to be the first, so don't try to copy their styles thinking that this will make you achieve automatic success.

And do not believe the myth that cuckolding will give you money. Many devs put cuckolding scenes because this theme is so pervasive in the Western imagination (because of the lobby of a certain ethnicity) that people automatically associate a black guy trying to fuck your sister as something "exciting" to have in the game, when in fact that is something repulsive to most players, even to black players.

Anything is possible if you have luck, work ethic, and talent. Otherwise, probably not.

>>68402

work ethic and patreon…. Pick one.

>>68401

Don't listen to this /pol/tard, NTR has been proven to be one of the most profitable fetish out there just make sure to make it optional so you don't piss off your other potential targets.

>>68435

Wrong.

Depends. You can be either really good at making a lewd game or you can pander to a specific fetish with big-spenders such as fur-fags.

Still depends partially on luck, though. There are plenty of good games that never went anywhere because no one noticed.

>>68456

>There are plenty of good games that never went anywhere because no one noticed

Name one

>>68469

my game

>>68470

Name the game so I can test and laugh.

>>68517

Unironically Fag95: when I search the name of a game, that site is always listed among the first results. Then you might as well post there: at least, if someone shits on your game, you can reply to him.

Other social media? I don't know, do what normies expect you to do. I suppose you may shill your game on /r/lewdgames and /r/nsfwgaming, and create your Shitscord channel.

Most forums are dead (except those where niche fetishes are discussed).

>>68517

You don't have to waste too much time with this because your game will be pirated by thousands of people. Just remember to put a link to Patreon inside the game.

A good place to make a public versions available is reddit /lewdgames/ and /nsfwgames/. Make a good description with screeshots and offer the links for free. This will attract patrons.

Remember: the adult gaming world is saturated so your first version needs to be something that people consider a game, not a tech demo or a prototype. Don't publish anything with less than 2 hours of gameplay and no sex scenes.

Someone will create a topic in f95zone about your game eventually. You can talk to the people there.

When you create the tiers on Patreon, remember that it is better to charge a high value of few patrons than to charge a low value of many patrons. I suggest something like this::

$ 1: People have access to news, art, etc., in your Patreon and old versions links

$ 5: access to newest versions

$ 10: Early access (1 week)

$ 20: super early access (2 weeks)

Lastly, quantity is more important than quality. No use making a super complex game with incredible art if it takes 1 year to have a sex scene.

And don't be pretentious. What you need to do right is simple: charismatic girls with hot sex scenes. Don't offer free sex in the beginning, the player needs to feel that the character has some existence and isn't just an avatar to have sex. But don't take too long to offer rewards to the player.

Finally, don't milk your patrons. Be a decent human being and commit to doing the best within your abilities.

>>68519

you proved the point shown up.

besides as has been proven hundreds of times full games can be done within 48 hours and those games have a lenght of 2 to 3 hours.

if you want to make a game just use tyranobuilder (is free well at least japanese version) you just need to make good art good story and the engine allows you to make some really good complicated choices that can change the outcome of the game (if you use tyrano don't male the same mistake westerners do and is they forget to backtrack the story so the story makes no sense whatsoever)

don't forget patreon rules you have to release everything you have made for free even if you haven't made a penny (reason of why some developers make a crippleware version and a highly developed version for patreons)

>>68556

Weeaboo faggot. Those gook games are shit. Sex games with censorship is fucking retarded. Not to mention all the weird as fuck shit the gooks love to put in their game, scat, piss, ntr, etc. Then you add to it the Engrish translations and it's just shit all over.

Hell I'd take Daz3d shit over jap style cartoons any day.

>>68556

Enjoy your closed-source RAM-hungry shit, its lack of documentation and its fucked-up save system.

Every game you have mentioned is better than this s.p.o.s. >>3903 . Can you guess the engine?

>>68558

enjoy your shitty games on your 20 year old pc.

almost every pc launched in the last 10 years has enough ram (my 10 year old pc has 4 Gb of ram)

and to my knowledge tyranobuilder is a 32 bit app.

Well is hard to bellieve people complaining about ram but is kinda understandable when they have those PC from over 10 year old that barelly have 512 Mb of ram and thus using renpy an obsolete engine with barelly enough documentation and that barelly allows good resolutionsor good quality art.

the fate of irnia is a shitty game made on renpy and unfinished as most games on renpy

>>68519

>because your game will be pirated by thousands of people

In my opinion, builds being free should be standard. You just need to see DarkCookie aproach, the patreon privileges are stuff like voting, early access and extra stuff (wallpapers, psd, wiki and discord status).

Also, what is the trend and stuff to grab maximum audience? I can see that masculine protag, harem, incest are in the high.

>>68560

Cluck, smartphones exist too. And no, Fate of Irnia is made with Tyranoshit.

>>68558

Forgot to add:

- TS games are much harder to mod

- can't run natively on Linux

Even the nips shit on TyranoCluck.

>>68562

weird that has rpa (renpy package) on it.

smartphones have 2 or 4 gb of ram (unless you use those shitty overhyped iphones )

Tyrano builder can be ported to linux,windows android ,iphone,and even web version if you know scripting then the games can expand more and more important is "what you see in development is what you get " besides minimal bugs (only if you made a mistake) can use movies,pictures png/jpg and most addons are plug and play and the most important is that is a derivative engine of the one used in school days.

can you do the same with renpy nope,are addons script plug and play on renpy nope,is easy to use nope,can a full game of 2 hours length made on 48 hours on renpy nope (a 30 minutes games can be made on 48 hours but is the top) can you make cross routes on renpy nope since is mostly linear (as proven by unteralterbach changing one answer changed the oute without posibility of returning to the other route)

Tyrano games finished made to date 350 and counting.

Renpy games finished made to date 35.

Keep dreaming on your "powerfull" engine that needs hundred of fixes to run on linux (weird i just load tyrano with a web browser if it doesn't have a native linux build)

>>68565

Tyrano Builder has more games completed because people who create adult games are mentally retarded (play Mr Dots games to check it out) who are afraid of a program without a GUI.

The advantage of Tyrano Builder is that it is more accessible, but you spend more time on long-winded tasks while in Renpy you have nothing to get in the way between you and your code.

>>68327

"saturated" is subjective, and its irrelevant if the game is good, as the other anon pointed out.

>>68573

Coding??

But you can code on tyranobuilder in fact tyranobuilder was built on this premise

"Why waste time coding when you can use that time writing a good story and making art"

Besides you proved the point of renpy is obsolete Quote "you spend more time on tasks in renpy" while on tyrano you don't waste time since you need to be a good artist and story maker as most people making videogames.

Mentally retarded are people wasting months to learn how to make X thing on renpy when in tyrano is just a matter of selecting everything and position everything according to the story.

Besides you keep saying code code as a mantra but most games on renpy play similar,important thing on videogames specially adult games is routes and renpy just allow one route at a time or will you explain how to return to loli route once the game change to the milf route and viceversa you can't since is imposible to make on renpy weird thing is that the version i ported to renpy worked better since routes could be changed at any time weird that you mock such adavanced engine but maybe is because you are someone poor and think tyrano is paid but tyrano is free and quite easy to use,but is you use tyrano you can't use the excuse of eternal updates to squeeze money from patreons due to updates (normal excuse of people using renpy i made this update and is just bug fixes)

tyrano is so simple that can change what people expect since there won't be eternal fixes or learning how to make this or that it will change everything for the best instead of lot's of unfinished games as in renpy tyrano doesn't have that excuse since is so simple that only lazy bastards will try to deny something so good and that facilitates the job (use the excuse code is a cheap excuse to say is a lazy developer that wants to squeeze the most money from patreons while doing the less ammount of job)

https://b.tyrano.jp/download/builder

If you are so unsure there are hundred of engines out there in fact you can make adult game with rpg maker engine and some are really good but only japanese games since western games are shit in story and CG quality (western are patriotic and protect their shit even when they know is really bad and lame)

PS kinda weird that some renpy games runs as arse on a powerfull pc could you fabricate this

those are my specs

AMD Ryzen™ 7 2700U 2.20 GHz

16GB DDR4 2400 SODIMM

AMD RADEON RX 560X 4GB GDDR5

hdd 1 Tb sata

i was talking about unteralterbach when refering to coding