/htg/ - Harlot Trainer General

https://mega.nz/#!wnwBEZ7K!qXI9e9UMa9lYKzqOe5jPpLgi_Y_-WQ6K-_MgqL42JuE

>>18613

when will people learn that no one likes rpg maker games here

I really enjoyed this. It's a little sad more people aren't giving this a chance.

>>18840

Should I put as much effort into playing as the dev went into making it?

>RPG Maker

>Using Honey Select Studio

Oh wait, that's no effort at all. Answered your own question.

>>18840

I like it but i feel the MC is turning into a cuck even though he's got the bigger dick.

What the fuck is wrong with their faces??

Jesus Christ, does the author not know what humans are like?

How the fuck do you even make Honey Select or whatever create monsters like that??

The cunt on the left looks like a fucking Gecko.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/version-0-2-13480917

He just released version 0.2. Not making a lot of money. Figures. He pretty much chose to use the least popular combination of rpgm + hs.

>>21160

changelog :

ere is the list of new scenes of 0.2 (plus some adjustments in some old scenes):

1. Meeting Aya

2. Hiking with Aya

3. Fucking Aya

4. Alex being arrested

5. Meeting Tatiana

6. Tatiana Vs Milena

7. Beach with Lara

8. Reconciliation of Lucy and Milena

9. Visit to Lucy's house

10. Visit to Milena's house

11. End of Lucy

12. Random event with Lucy and Milena

13. Lisa's mother

14. Lisa's gangbang

The game has content. It's just the gameplay is not so great. Making money is kinda grindy. You need to grind for the luck-boosting accesories and play the lottery for money. Scenes are also really, really long. He should enable some skip function. As everyone said, the game is just more suitable for renpy.

Hey! I'm de creator of this game.

>>21160

Do you think RPG Maker + HS's reputation is so bad? I knew that some porn games made a lot of money on Patreon, but I believed it was high quality, almost professional games. After I made the 0.1 on Solvalley, however, I received some emails commenting that his quality was the same as many games that made thousands of dollars. I was curious to know how these game creators are so successful. Perhaps because they did not make the game in RPG Maker already explains much of this success.

>>21164

Hi, I'm fixing these two points. Money is now easier to win, and the player already starts with $ 500. I do not want it to be so easy to make money to the point where it loses all sense, but I also know that grind to make money is not a very nice thing to do, especially in a dating sim / visual novel.

I'm also putting option to skip scenes. With the limitations of RPG Maker, I could not make a skip that works anytime, but the player will have the opportunity to jump at the beginning of every scene.

>>18963

LOL! I fucked some scenes because I left the FOV very high and it deformed the face of some characters.

>>21842

Quick question, if you are the creator of this game, can you tell me how you found out about /htg/? Did you come from 4chan or reddit or just stumble upon this place?

>>21855

I just did a google search with the name of my own game to see the criticism.

>Use Renpy, do it like a white man and use something actually fucking designed for this shit.

The irony is that I chose RPG Maker because I thought it would be easier, but now that I know Ren'py, I regret my choice.

>Hell, that guy's been scamming people for over a year and the PC hasn't had sex with said daughter yet

LOL.

>And you want my honest opinion? Why not just release it finished? Keep it a small project between the main and the two girls, put in some decent writing and scenes, move all that shit to renpy and bam, done

Yes, this would have been the best option. Instead of starting a big-scope game in RPG Maker, I should have made a small one in Ren'py. Anyway, now I do not have much choice, since even if I did not advertise the game in almost any place, there is still a good receptivity and people donating money, so I have a duty to finish it.

And having made available an incomplete version of the game also had its advantages. For example, people are volunteering to help with my shitty English. And the criticisms they make also help guide the development of the game, even if it's an amateur gameeven if it is an amateur game without great pretensions besides being fun..

>>21860

Dude, you're making money from a low-effort porn game. It's a miracle already.

>>21855

why is the MC such an asshole? I felt like i was being cucked by everyone. and the only way to make money is to drive that one truck. its boring doing the same thing over and over for low pay.

>>21884

/htg/,

>I felt like i was being cucked by everyone.

What part of Harlot Trainer do you not understand?

Harlot: a prostitute or promiscuous woman.

synonyms: prostitute, whore, fille de joie, call girl, courtesan

Trainer: A person or thing that trains

>>22097

Are you in the wrong thread?

>>21884

Yeah, I got some complaints about that. Not that the MC is cuck in the meaning of the term, but I actually did some scenes where he did not care about sharing the girls (even though the story of the game is not very serious, let's face it).

I noticed that a lot of players do not like it, so I'm making new choices in the old scenes where the player can choose whether he shares the girl or if he sends the other guys to the hell. This way I can please everyone.

>>22713

not sure why devs think people even want that shit to begin with, almost every poll I've come across has the majority greatly against anything sharing/cuckoldry.

Hello everyone, version 0.3 is ready, with 11 new scenes, plus several useful things to make the game more enjoyable (it is possible to skip scenes, save in the middle of scenes, work gives more money, some images have been improved, etc).

The link below:

https://www.patreon.com/posts/solvalley-0-3-14618407

>>27405

awes-

>still rpgmaker

nope its trash

>>27405

Hi, now playing v.0.3. Some thoughts.

- Yes, Ren'py would have been a better choice. RPG Maker makes your game look like a walking simulator. There are places (e.g. the school) that I don't even check anymore because it's fucking boring. Consider porting SolValley in the future

- About the bank, you should raise the 10-days yield or lower the 5-days one (e.g. from 50% to 35%). The current values don't make sense. If I invest $1,000 for 5 days I got 1,500 bucks: if I invest my bucks again for another 5 days, I got $2,250. On the other hand, if I invest my $1,000 for 10 days, I earn only $2,000.

- As far as I've seen, your game is too linear. A dating sim (even if it's a parody) should offer more dialog choices and branches.

>>27507

Nevermind about bank profits, I went full retard, your code is fine. Sorry.

>>27512

Ok. About the other things you said, I'll try to fix them all. I'm seriously thinking about porting the game to Renpy, this would solve so many problems… But at this point, doing this will be a lot of work. I am aware that my game is not a masterpiece, but with the messages I have been receiving I have discovered that it is at least as good as some who earn 5x more at Patreon lol. RPG Maker was a terrible choice..

>>27554

>>27554

>I have been receiving I have discovered that it is at least as good as some who earn 5x more at Patreon lol

They were being nice.

It's not easy to make big bucks from patreon game.

My suggestion is to learn how to make a decent Honey Select models. Lab Rats, Corruption, Power of The Dragon. Their characters are pretty. Yours look off.

And also learn the art of milking. I think you got the impression putting in large amount of content into your early releases will attract patrons. It really doesn't. Especially when the characters are ugly and the scenes are overly long.

>>18613

MAN HANDS

>>27554

Hi, I'm >>27507 again.

- Don't call it "Demo". This is literally the first thing I've read when I opened the game, so I expected some 0.0001 version, while the amount of content is huge!

- The longer I play the game, the funnier it gets. At first I thought it was a regular dating sim, maybe because the first days are not as hilarious as the rest (probably my fault too, I've spent the first week only moving radio waste). I'd emphasize this aspect, see the USP another anon was talking about.

- Imo one issue of RPG Maker is that devs make rooms and roads proportioned to the characters (because of aesthetic reasons, I suppose). That's why you end up walking in big and empty spaces. You're not alone, I could name many projects like that: "Fleeting Iris", "College Life", "Gates; The Opening" (this one has also serious performance problems). As I've said before, in SolValley the weak point is the school: I have reached the 40th week and I still do not know why I should visit it regularly (I supposed I could spy Anna, because a NPC has suggested so, but I had no luck). If there is no content (my bad if I've missed it), maybe you should shrink or temporary close the left building and add a janitor that blocks the access to the upper floors. Other town locations could be a bit smaller too (e.g. the gym and the library).

- Replayability: are some routes mutually exclusive? If not, they could be, at least in normal mode. Like, Milena's route could be unavailable once she admits loving Tatiana. People that want a harem could still get it in endless mode.

- I don't know how to advance Kyra's (after the first date) and Amanda's routes. Lack of content, bug or have I missed some stat/time requirements? I've bought every item, strength is 60 and intelligence is 80.

- Is there no thread about SolValley on F95? Btw, what happened to your post on LoK?

Keep up the good job, your game has a great potential!

>>27554

If you want to port to Ren'py, I can help do that. I've been releasing fixes for other renpy games on here but I've been thinking about doing it on patreon as well. I've also helped on other erotic game development.

-Pervy Rogue

>>27593

Do what you want, I just don't think Honey Select graphics is a good idea. I love it, but usually games made with HS graphics don't make that much money. Lab Rats, Corruption, and Glassix only made around 2000 USD despite having lots of content and custom gameplay.

Again, learn the art of milking. Postpone sexual content. Tease your Patrons. Add more and more characters. Add little for each update. But be consistent like a small update once per month. When all else fails, reboot your game. It buys you time. Suck f95 and your patron dicks. Milking is great. You make more money with less effort.

>>27676

I'm from a poor country. $ 1000 is more than enough. I know if I used Daz Studio and spent some time rendering some good images I would have a lot more return, but I do not have the money to buy the assets.

About milking, I do not intend to do this, but I understand why so many people do: people pay.

But one thing I should have done was create highers tiers at Patreon. The author of corruption has a little more than 2x more patrons than me, but earns 5x more.

>>27605

I'll leave it for later.

>>27594

I'll put some indication on the map of the city so the guys do not hang around. For example, when something is available at school, the city map icon will glow.

There are three events at school. One in the ladies 'room after you visit Lucy's house, another in the teachers' room after you've done Lucy's and some Aya's events, and one last on the roof of the school with Milena (but nothing interesting happens here, it was just to prepare for a future event that I just gave up doing).

Some routes excluded others, but I changed it after I placed the "skip event" option. Because RPG Maker is limited, the only way I managed to skip a scene was to skip it whole, from start to finish. To prevent anyone from missing an important choice when skipping an event, I ended up making sure that neither option actually matters. Maybe I'll change that in the future.

Someone made a topic in f95, maybe the same guy who created this thread, since he used the same terrible image, probably one of the ugliest ones he had in the game, to spread loll.

https://f95zone.com/threads/solvalley-school-v0-3-tk8000.3368/

>>27740

The dev of games I mentioned also put in a lot of effort customizing Ren'Py and Unity for their games.

Anyone with the latest update?

Any mind control/hypno in this?

v0.3: https://mega.nz/#!k6QgxBoZ!61r-GVq2yrqeAfaUewWpxRlrn89ibEoLhMbFmECJ0r8

v0.3 to v0.35: https://mega.nz/#!UiJE3bDY!qQpMSca57b4Ur_WE_Swi4YG7-HGXrFknds_HY8mlznE

A much better Renpy version is available:

https://www.patreon.com/posts/public-release-0-16383813

There's so much faggotry in porn games nowadays, that Solvalley is fucking refreshing.

>>35908

Porting to Ren'py? Best choice ever.

>>18963

>What the fuck is wrong with their faces??

I'm more annoyed by the shape of the tits and how they bounce. Does HS suck so hard?

Two notes for TK 8000, in case he reads here:

1. imo the ending of some sex scenes should be lowered. Now the frame rate is too fast

2. the text town screen is ugly. Much better the one with the map, you should make it as default

<Can I fuck the bank clerk yet?

>>35978

Please tell me this is true. I've been craving for something that doesn't involve faggotry so much… I'd probably cry tears of joy if it doesn't involve (((PROGRESSIVE))) bullshit.

>Does HS suck so hard

Yes. Texture and lighting is shit, skins look plastic, customization kind of sucks, specially compared to old Illusion games. Playhome is as bad with the customization, but it looks far better.

>>36000

Girl on girl relationships are part of harems as much as it may bother some faggots. You can't expect them to just watch as you fuck someone else.

>(((OPTIONAL)))

>Implying you can please everyone

>Y-you can choose if you want to share her!

And dropped. Suck a dick.

There's no mind control or hypnosis or corruption or any of that shit here, it's a vanilla porn game with the most unrealistic character depictions ever, which makes them hilarious. I don't know how to explain the humor, but it's definitely the best part about this game. It's retarded, in a good way

>>35978

Hello, I am the author and I read here from time to time. I posted the link for Renpy's version. RPG Maker was making me angry, I never want to open that shitty software in my life again.

You still can not have a relationship with the bank girl.

Honey Select can do good things, but breasts are really ridiculous. If one day I have enough money I will try to make a game using more appropriate softwares. I know how to use DAZ, but I don't like the Genesis models, for me they fall into the Uncanny Valley.

>>35980

I'd rather die than put anything progressive and SJW into the game.

>>36003

In the Renpy version the player will be able to choose if he does 100% of the game without the involvement of any other male character, or if he calls his friends to fuck the sluts together. The current version still does not have any of the "controversial" scenes, but they will come back with the options.

>>36013

Yes, my intention was to make a kind of "True Love" but with retarded characters.

>>36000

One scenes do not exclude the others in Solvalley. You can do Tatiana's events and still fuck Milena and her mother. And neither option makes a difference, even if you choose Lucy instead of Milena, you can still fuck them both. When I do all the scenes, I'm going to add a 50-day game mode. In this mode choices will have consequences and some ways will exclude others. But this does not occur in the current versions.

Not even 10 minutes in, and I'm already losing all my sides. Went out with Anastasia, and her sisters are… Something to behold.

>>36048

I played it for the first time yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it.

Yeah, sometimes the boobs flip all over the place but that just makes things funnier.

One criticism though:

Where are the headpats for the retarded lesbo girl? Retarded girls get headpats.

>>36052

I had to look at Google what this is (headpat). I will do this. She's so stupid that I feel a little sorry for her sometimes.

>>36053

>Where did you learn Ren'Py?

I learned by reading the documentation on the official website and with the tutorial game that comes on Renpy. It's quite easy, especially for the style of games I make, which are slides with texts.

>Give playhome a try.

Playhome does not have a Studio yet. If I'm not mistaken it will be released now at the end of January.

>or give the option from the beginning

Maybe I'll do it, I think it's the best solution, so the player who hates this kind of thing will not even get a chance to see an MMF scene.

>You sound like a cool guy, although misguided and with an apparent lack of resources.

I'm poor. And I do not have much knowledge about Hentai and adult games. Virtually everything I do is based on intuition. When I received the first emails asking for certain things (like NTR) I had to search the internet to find out what the terms meant. I think I just played two hentai games in life: True Love and Immoral Study.

>>36060

Keep it up, my man. We need more people like you.

Seriously, I'm playing for the sex and I'm staying for the retardness. Jesus, I'm loving this game!

Also, look around for grammar mistakes sometime, I think I've saw one, around the first interactions.

any incest in this or is it just vanilla?

>>36061

Found one. Around the time you are arriving home from the threesome with the teachers, Alex will say "I agreed", but since he's speaking "I agree" is the correct for the context.

>>36048

>One scenes do not exclude the others in Solvalley

OI, DEV. DA FUCK IS THE CHOICE BETWEEN LUCY AND MILENA?!

>>36061

My english is trash.

>>36066

This only made a difference in the early versions. If you responded badly to Milena at the events, and chose Lucy on this one, on the first visit to Milena's house she would say something like "I know you love another but I want to continue being your friend," Alex would then make some excuse and leave the house to neversee Milena again, since he only wanted sex, not friendship. This does not happen anymore. You can choose who you want Milena will always be available at the end.

P.S .: I want to put back choices that have consequences in the last version of the game. It will have the "normal" mode (50 days and the choices have consequences) and "endless" (you can talk what you want and still do 100% of the events of the game).

>>36067

No problem, man. Mostly the issues you have to fix are minor, really, like mistaking "whine" for "wine".

>>36067

>My english is trash.

The Twist, Big Brother, SuperPowered, Second Happiness and so many others have far worse English.

Your shitty English isn't that big of a deal. Anyway it's honestly not that bad. Just the odd spelling issues.

I just played House Arrest. I'm liking your stuff.

>Testing Solvalley 0.4.5

>Hello guys. I am testing version 0.4.5. of Solvalley. It should be available within a few hours.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/testing-0-4-5-16698286

Oh boy oh boy I hope my headpats are in.

>>37325

I hope best girl Anastasia has extra content.

>>37578

ANGRY

>>37581

I made this Vanilla option based on a post I read here. Whoever plays Vanilla will not see other penises rendered beyond the protagonist.

NOTE: For those who like these games I do, I've just created a thread about another game I'm doing with Renpy + Honey Select. The game is a bit better than Solvalley because I had more experience when I did.

Dev, do you intend to rethink the whole step-sister stuff? I'm not saying that you should: but, after what happened to Big Brother and Dating my daughter…

Maybe Lara could become a childhood friend; or, even better, her relationship with the MC could be customizable (the player chooses what they are).

>>37673

I hope you burn in hell for this post, retard.

>>37674

>Calling retard me instead of Patreon rules

>>37663

Some people here straight up hate the fact that the option exists from the beginning. The only way you can make them happy is by removing it completely, and I wouldn't mind that. That's why (((OPTIONAL))) is a meme. The game is not bad, but you'll probably get shit for that anyway.

>>37675

If you go along retarded rules that make yourself a retard, retard.

>>37673

I was told in another forum that stepsister also goes into Patreon's incest filter, but I don't believe it. I think it's okay to Lara be the protagonist's stepsister. If Patreon wants to censor, then I simply delete Lara from the game, after all she is probably one of the ugliest characters in the game, along with Professor Laura.

>>37678

I would be pissed off, if I had to cut tons of renders. But, hey, if it's OK for you…

Tbh I don't care much of Lara, but I love the game and I just want it to be safe from Patreon censorship.

Okay, I just read the topic about Patreon and apparently they say that stepsister is considered incest. Anyway, I think it would be enough to change a few lines of my game to re-adjust it to the rules. If by chance Patreon blocks my page, I'll make the change. If they do not accept the change, then I'll look for alternatives.

>>37684

Why don't you just remove the family link (mom, sis, stepsis, whatever) from the dialogs and allow the user to enter the relation (like a custom name) the beginning of the game. I can make Lara my sister or step sister..or friend…

>>37684

<Alternatives

Honestly, Im really wanting to get some of you devs together and make that alternative. The issue is finding a country with amicable laws and someone in that country to act as an agent. From there, making something that is a cross between patreon and DLsite would fit really well.

v0.6

New scenes:

- Aya ending

- Visiting Sarah, Adrianna and friends

- Alexandra at the hot springs

- Amanda at the gym

- Amanda, Mary and Alanna on the beach

- Teachers in the park

New things:

- the player can date with the girls whose story line has already come to an end (only Lucy available for now)

>SolvalleySchoolRV-0.6.0-pc

mega.nz/#!a9w3DSSL!bERhFmKp0CVrUecCgoHfZHxCuElpXil_k8nVXM7Q9fM

>Update version 0.5 to 0.6

mega.nz/#!fwRgVJoJ!zLuEG8ET6CqlCyoli3FBD_eqLpg0TiPp1PXNIyc3nAw

>>27593

Yes you are making good bitches.

Keep up the good work.

Did you not keep the original images for your first game, so now you can't convert the high quality ones to webp? There's only the newer ones I see converted.

>>41647

I have 99% of the images used in the game in PNG format. But I ended up deciding not to convert all of them because I was late and needed to put the game on Patreon as fast as possible.

I like the reference to House Arrest. That was cute.

>>41616

What the fuck, I actually laughed a couple of times.

>>41616

Anons will think I'm you shilling, but I actually had a great time with this game, man. Patreon'd

>>41752

I'm the dev. Thanks for collaborating, I'm trying to accumulate as much money as possible to try to make a game with 2D art. All help is valuable because here in my shithole the dollar is worth a lot, so I can hire a good artist without having to earn $20k a month at Patreon (my goal is $1100).

As for shilling, this board is not the right place to do this. I love this place because of the brutal reviews, but in terms of pageviews this board is not very relevant. For example, in the last two weeks I have had less than 17 visits coming from here (pic related).

As for Solvalley, I have realized that little by little people are creating the courage to test it. I understand perfectly, the game is garbage in many aspects, I personally would not even give it a chance if I saw the repulsive initial image of this thread, for example.

Anyeay, I'm glad people who have the guts to face my retarded English and the generic art made at Honey Select end up enjoying the result. Even those who continue to think the game is garbage after playing show a special affection for it, as if it were their favorite garbage.

>>41755

How do you know that the traffic stats are not censored after that Dan Olson twat got 8ch kicked off patreon?

Shouldn't f95 be listed there too?

>>41756

Because I've seen 8ch on the list a few times. But you're right, this count is not very relevant because of this:

>The recorded post view and traffic source data are currently limited to when someone visits a post’s URL. They do not yet include when someone views your posts on mobile, on their feed at patreon.com/home, or on your Patreon page.

Another VN game with no narration, just why.

Dont have the text be nothing but dialogue for fucks sake, use narration to describe how the characters are moving their tone of voice their mannerisms their body language etc

Making all text dialogue is the mark of a complete amateur and its extremely limiting

>>53450

>Another VN game with no narration, just why

I don't know why the other authors, especially those with native English, don't describe the subtleties of the dialogues.

In my case (I am the author of solvalley), the reason is simple:

1. My English sucks, so I have to keep the dialogue as simple as possible.

2. I steal images from Honey Select, so I can create endless images for each dialogue instead of always using the same sprites, so I can mitigate the lack of description with the poses and facial expressions (it would look like what guys do in comics, where it is only dialog + drawing, and less like a visual novel or a book). Of course, the result is not very good, and this does not completely exclude the need to narrate what the characters are thinking…

>>53457

A picture is worth a thousand words, but narration tells us what either isn't in the picture, or elaborates on the picture itself. And if you're playing to an English-speaking audience, know the language or find someone to hire/help/slave away.

>>53457

1. Thats fair enough

2. You still understimate the power of words and how much they can do in conjunction with images "but I have lots of images!" is not an excuse, if anything is an even bigger opportunity to have good writing that enhances it even more

I actually chuckled a couple times playing this which doesnt happen often when playing wegs And you seem to be doing your best with what you have so I cant stay mad at this one, its just frustrating when so mane western VNs dont seem to know what writing is and think its all dialogue

Godspeed little dev

>>53472

> its just frustrating when so mane western VNs dont seem to know what writing is and think its all dialogue

Yeah, you're right. In my case I prefer not to try to do what is beyond my capabilities because I don't want to do a cringe shit, only a funny unpretentious game.

But I'm starting a new game now trying to apply everything I've learned by reading criticism for 1 year and I'll try to write a bit deeper text.

Of course, without incorporate an erotica writer, but at least in some scenes I will write things from the narrator's point of view just to accentuate some feelings.

>>53481

Will you be dropping this game then? I was interested in the 3 sisters that want to get married storyline, it was pretty nice how their personalities define their actions instead of just jumping into sex immediately I wanted there to be more decisions with the sisters that had long term effects but I understand you wanted to put lots of heroines in the game for lots of small varied scenarios

If you keep your characters consistent and interesting like that you will find success.

>>53486

Oh yes those decisions seemed to be important and I really liked them, but if they do nothing itd be a bummer but I like decisions really altering the story in my games even if it means missing scenes, I might be in the minority

And you already have a free mode with no time limit though is the only one functional so far so you could put the decisions dont lock you out of content mode in there too

I like the prospect of a time limit to get a girl and I look forward to its implementation, I think its a great idea, you could make it so you have to befriend certain girls to get that one hard to get girl or something, man I wish I had time to make games Id totally steal this idea and run with it.

Well its your game so do what you feel is best for you and your patreons because Im not one of them after all, in any case good luck and stay motivated!

>>53483

<Sorry, I deleted the message to correct an error, here it again…

No, I'll keep doing Solvalley until I finish it.

It's that I make two games at the same time, when I start to run out of ideas I'll stop with one and go to the other.

About the three girls, my original idea was to have only two possible endings, which would depend on the choices the player makes at that pool event. If he says he likes the whole family and things like that, the end would be a harem with all three. If he did the choices where he demonstrates to have a special feeling for Anastacia, the end would be only with her.

But I still have not planned how to do it, probably I'll just put a choice for the player to make things easier, and also because the guys don't want to be creating multiple saves to see all the scenes.

Is this one ever getting updated, I kinda liked the writing

>>53488

try not to include cuck shit in the new game.

this is pretty good, the latest version got well over 100 scenes and like two dozen girls.