/girltalk/ - Girl Talk

I think most people want to have a family, but when the economy is in a bad spot (like it is now) people aren't very eager to have a child that could put financial strain on them, especially when most people (in America at least) don't have the best job security.

If you're living with a man and you're just struggling to get by as-is, it's not the most enticing thing to have a child, and nobody wants to have a kid they can't end up supporting because they got unexpectedly fired from their crappy job.

I find it dumb. There are far too many humans in the world.

I plan on adopting with my husband.

>>9204

Do you think your husband will enjoy raising his wife's son?

>>9204

>raising someone else's child

>not continuing your bloodline

>could cayse some big problems if he's had a troubled past

Good luck with that.

>>9208

If he wants to be my husband, he has to.

>>9209

Any child can cause big problems.

Anti-adoption is dumb. These kids need a home. And I am willing to give them one.

>>9209

I can't imagine how somebody could feel fulfilled raising someone else's offspring. Its like a bird whose own offspring gets thrown out of it's nest happily raising the cuckoo bird's baby.

>>9210

You'll end up marrying some pathetic numale then because no self respecting man would do that.

>>9210

>These kids need a home. And I am willing to give them one.

And here we see natural selection in action.

>>9211

I would prefer that than those dumb tradi-tards.

What is the point on creating babies anymore. Our species is far from extinct.

>>9204

Adoption is a good cause and particularly good for couples with genetic defects who would, otherwise, pass bad genes down to their offspring.

>>9214

Well there is still a point to having children, the population needs to sustain itself and a sudden drop in children could result in disaster when the larger older class retires and needs to be supported.

But you're 100% right in that we don't need to breed like rabbits, only enough to sustain (and for now perhaps slowly lower) the population.

But this topic is quickly headed to /pol/ territory.

>>9213

>Give my opinion

>U r retard

And here we see the internet anonymity mentality in action.

>>9214

>Our species is far from extinct.

the rate of replacement is 2.1 children per couple. there are basically zero western countries that have a birthrate this high, mainly because of people with your mindset. The countries that do have over 2.1 children per couple are places like africa, the middle east, and india. These are not the kinds of people I want replacing me and my family. These are the kinds of people who will throw the world into a perpetual dark age.

>>9214

So you willingly remove your self from the gene pool because "there are lots of humans"?

Are you one of those people who want to raise children from the 3rd world to signal your virtue to everyone?

>>9219

Here we go again.

Eah time I talk about how I want o adopt, I get the same arguments.

Why is that.

>>9216

At the risk of going into that territory: it should be noted that white people are quite a small minority on a global scale, being statistically dwarfed by sub-Saharan Africans and Chinese alone.

White people should be more willing to have children as, people of other races would agree, they are remarkable and desirable in how they have a diverse range of hair and eye colors.

>>9217

>gives an unfavorable political opinion

>le internet, amirite

Listen, I like you Snail. You seem like a rather pleasant individual, and we have similar interests, but this is just ridiculous.

>>9217

I don't think Xhe called you retarded, but simply stated that denying your instinct to reproduce is literally natural selection. I don't see anyone in this thread saying have 8 children, just having two can sustain the population.

If you're really concerned about muh over population, look to the third world. They are the only ones causing over population.

>>9214

>not wanting to procreate your genetics so your progeny can explore the stars for thousands of years

>>9218

>The countries that do have over 2.1 children per couple

You mean 6-8 children per couple?

>>9220

>universal reasons that it's a bad idea

If anything, that's usually an indicator that you're in the wrong.

>>9223

Am I wrong tho?

>>9227

Just because you don't like it, doesn't means its bad.

Every day hundreds of babies are born. Including white babies. If the white race is dying out, is due to interracial couples and the like.

Its just a dumb skin pigment. We won't exist anymore to see how it plays out.

>>9225

>Christian

Of course. Had to be.

>>9221

That s pretty subjective. Blue and green eyes look unnatural to me.

>>9224

Third world countries are human too, so it checks out.

Who cares if my genes are still around. I won't exist anymore and that won't chant even if I have million babies.

Do you remember our great great great great grandfather?

>>9196

I used to fall into the typical nu-female mindset of

<world is le overpopulated, plus why have children when I can live totally for myself persuing a "career."

Much like >>9204

Then I realized what a selfish, unfulfilling road that was. Take the pink pill. The only way a woman can attain a true sense of fulfillment and happiness is through selfless service to others (ideally loved ones).

The gratitude and happiness she elicits in those she serves is rewarding enough.

>>9228

>Its just a dumb skin pigment

>Who cares if my genes are still around

I see, you're one of those people.

>>9228

>blue and green eyes look unnatural to me.

They certainly are rare and unusual but I wouldn't say that they're "unnatural." Do you mean to say that they look unnatural because they're an aberration?

Most people have an idealized view of blue/green eyes because of their rarity and aesthetic appeal (just like they do with precious metals like gold and silver).

>>9240

I think she means everyone needs to have brown hair, brown eyes, and brown skin.

>>9245

No.

I mean that people shouldn't care about skin colours. Its something we cant control.

People don't choose being white or black.

>>9247

I'm going to have to disagree. It's good for people to acknowledge and appreciate the unique characteristics (good and bad) of other cultures and peoples and hold particular favoritism for their own.

And, although people do not choose their skin color, they should be curious as to how they came to be and learn about the history of their family, their culture, and their people and appreciate the marks they made on it.

Not holding any appreciation for those characteristics is disrespectful and ignorant. Not having any appreciation for your heritage is to live like a fool.

And, to go back to an earlier topic, an adoptive child is in an unusual position that makes it uniquely hard for him to have a sense of identity or of having a place in the world since he was born of one culture but raised to be an honorary member of another so having to learn about both cultures and accepting them as part of his being may prove difficult when he finds certain aspects between the two prove to be incompatible with each other.

So, one should definitely consider the ramifications of this before adopting a child as it is not a frivolous thing to be done impulsively but needs careful consideration.

>>9253

What the fuck does adoption have to do with other cultures? Do you think 'adoption' has to mean adopting some sub saharan african child?

Why is it that /pol/ is so fucking lazy, you're not even good at subtle "red pilling" anymore.

Also, wouldn't your bullshit also apply to all US children, living in a "melting pot", that lose their "culture" several generations or even the first generation in the US?

Put some more effort into it. Man you fags are embarassing.

>>9247

You hold the belief that hundreds of thousands of years of isolated evolution resulted only in skin pigmentation variations.

>its something we can't control

And so what? Does that mean we shouldn't care about our kinsmen because we "cant control" who they are? Should you not care about your family because you can't control who your parents or siblings are?

I still think adoption is better.

In other news: the sky is blue.

>>9293

I actually believe that tho.

Excluding adoption, I want a somewhat traditional family.

The man must also cook and clean tho. Jut like how I would work.

>>9295

So a more even distribution between the two, or a role reversal?

>>9297

Even.

He can take care of fixing stuff tho. Machines and the like aren't my jazz.

>>9298

Sounds fair enough.

>>9301

How do you know.

>>9301

Having a babby is literally creating a mini combination of your self and your love. There is no fulfillment raising your wife's adopted son, as it is not a derivative of your self or wife.

I think you're right about the self esteem thing. The people who say they don't want to have kids because of X excuse really just don't like them selves.

>>9311

At this point you should really b& yourself for derailing the discussion.

>>9344

>(1) and done

>>9345

Please don't feed the trolls

>>9345

It's pasta you fag

>>9344

>>9345

>>9346

>a mega shitposter appears

This is why you don't get triggered over everything, it only encourages this stuff.

>>9351

Nah, the definition of triggered you're using presupposes that anyone here is angry.

It's quite clear that they just want to have their board, and the people who are actually upset, namely about their virginity or inadequacies, are creating dedicated threads to raid it.

It's not about abusing weakness, because retards are just dodging bans and keep spamming the same shit.

Would you say that a niche community is 'triggered' when they receive constant shitposts from boards that have a dedicated thread to raid them, when they delete dumb raid posts?

No, you would not, unless you are a retard. Try not jumping through hoops to justify retardation. I don't see anyone triggered, except the retards who create raid threads.

>>9354

You say it like if guys didn't died for such a thing. Every single day, mind you.

>>9330

It is related to the thread tho.

>>9329

I will just find a man who wants that then.

Someone must have more open ideas.

>>9356

>guys didn't died

?

>>9301

All true, very difficult in the beginning then becomes an amazing experience with every minute that passes.

Do you really want to die childless, femanon? Do you really want to never have a fulfilling relationship that gives you babies of your own? Do you really never want to have raised a family?

Have you just not found the right guy? There are many, many "right guys" out there, and many of them are afraid of relationships (divorce, alimony, bad experiences, etc).

Don't pretend that you can't do it or make yourself believe that there's something wrong with you. "I want a family, I'm not hideous due to the things I've done to myself, and I'm not crazy" puts you well ahead of the pack. You can find nearly any man you want, posting that and a disposable email address.

And what do you give up for it? Loneliness? An endless series of distractions on Twitter? Is all the time you've spent shitposting on the internet even remotely worth giving birth to someone who will call you "Mom"?

This is going to sound weird, but I am a young stepfather of a little girl (18 months now). I can verify that fatherhood (and I would supposed motherhood too) can be also experienced to a large degree through adoption, no problem. I don't feel like my daughter is any less mine because I didn't have a hand in creating her, specially given that her biological father would have made her life and the life of the woman I happen to be in love with a living hell, and I gladly will father the little one into a proper lady rather than have her become trailer trash. I do think that whenever we get another baby it is going to be a slightly different experience for me, but that's that.

For the /pol/lacks, I know I am a cuck to your eyes for having a "my wife's daughter", but I am also a mediterranean black haired brown-eyed slim-build guy that under real eugenics shouldn't really pass on his genes, and the blue-eyed-yet-overweight mother of the kid would have likely died/killed herself had I not gotten involved in the whole situation. So how about that.

>>9301

I couldn't disagree more. I mean, I haven't had much time to see my kid be a person and maybe that's awesome to see, but I see the progression of my baby girl over time, and she went from an extremely cute if incapable and fragile little thing that slept most of the day and lived content on a soft surface with bright toys hanging over her head, to what now is a small devil that literally cannot reason yet (loves-the-shower-hates-getting-wet lack of reason here), but is gifted with the ability to run, open doors, turn on and off switches, and open any cupboard or clothes basket and directly tear out of it all its contents should you not have your eyes on her all the time. She also demands much more attention and input, so she's getting exhausting. How long until she becomes fun to deal with again?

I would like to get married in a church and have at least 3 children (4 if we can afford it and our lives aren't too crowded with other activities).

Unfortunately, due to some personal issues I am terrified of having sex. I haven't dated anyone in years because of this, and my romancing skills are rusty.

I don't hold anything against those who want to adopt though. I think it's admirable to take care of those who were unwanted and vulnerable and bring them into the larger community. I am perplexed by people who adopt from abroad when there are plenty of children already living in their own countries who need parents. No need to import them.

>>9691

She probably is, and this is the whole problem. Snailgrill says there is no shortage of humans, which is incorrect, unless you are stupid enough to count niggers as humans. Problem is, whites are after American Hispanics the biggest minority. Niggers breed like rabbids, Asians do too, but their birthrate will decline too in the next couple of decades and whites in general are completely kiked into not breeding at all. There are one billion Caucasians currently, and the number is declining rapidly. Snailgrill chooses to contribute to the white genocide.

>>9708

Are you implying all reasonable males only want to make babies?

Nah I highly doubt that.

>>9719

Rub*

>>9715

I'll just find a guy autistic enough then.

I can create stories and games with ease. So pretty high.

>>9719

But we are gonna fug. Just not have babies.

Pretty sure most males would like that compromise.

>>9722

It's not that.

If you didn't want kids at all it would be better.

The problem is that you want a guy to grow someone else's kids.

But hey, who gives a shit, not like you're gonna change your mind.

Just be ready to meet a disagreement with your future boyo.

>>9724

That's one of the things I mention when first meeting a potential partner. If he still goes through after knowing that, he's basically asking for it.

>>9729

You know better.

>>9745

A vagina will probably end looking like a sewer gate after that.

The hymen won't just tear, it will freaking vaporize itself.

>>9726

>hee-hee here boyim, wanna raise another man's offspring at the detriment of your own?

I can't see how any sane man would agree to do something like that.

>>9864

No self respecting man wants that, you're a beta cuck if you accept it and you'd have to brainwash yourself with progressive dogma to cope.

There's a reason the term "my wife's son" is a derogatory joke. Us men want to stick our dick in things and spread genes, you fight your own biology if you go against it.

>>9748

>The hymen won't just tear, it will freaking vaporize itself.

Why would a pregnant woman still have a hymen? That's some fucked up biology

>>9872

There is a good reason why people go through great lengths to protect their family… Its an evolutionary function. Every organism's goal is to reproduce and ensure their offspring survive. Its the gears of evolution.

Of course not all of them end up surviving, that is how the inferior organisms get weeded out.

To go against all natural order, and promote all that is unnatural is to be a leftist. The good news is everyone with defective genes (cucks) wont reproduce and will be cut off from the gene pool.

>>10104

Is that suppose to be sarcasm?

>being an adcuck

>>10109

Yes, it was.

Find me a good adblock for mobile that isn't a scam then. It's harder than it seems. Mobile apps are such trash.

>>10136

no

>>9874

Oh I forgot to respond to this.

The hymen doesn't actually breaks, you know? It just tears. And it keeps tearing openwith each intercourse and the like.

>>10183

Fug,

>>10104

Jim is a fucking retard and The Goldwater is cringeworthy. I'd like to see how a shithole like the Philippines fares without vaccines.

>>9715

There are many men who would "put up with it", not all of them "le ebin cuckold meme."

I wonder how /pol/ is going to feel when genetic engineering becomes a reality and "muh racial superiority" has no real meaning. By that point maybe they'll stop implying that anyone who adopts a child is adopting a nigger child from Africa because this is what their limited purview on the world through the imageboard format told them.

>>10136

Use AdAway, it's FREE SOFTWARE. FREE AS IN FREEDOM. You like liberty, don't you? Sure you do.

Actually that requires root. And extensions aren't supported in mobile chrome.

I never realized how fucked normalfags were on Android, without root.

This will work:

https://github.com/julian-klode/dns66

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You could probably add softserve.8ch.net to it, haven't used this tbh.

That or mobile Firefox+uBlock.

>>10191

>>9715

And just to elaborate on this, I can name four people I know personally who had a step father growing up, off the top of my head. Anecdotes, but it really shows how fucking stupid this train of thought is.

Adopted kids are really not different between marrying into raising another kid, in that context. Do people even think this shit out before shitposting?

Personally, if I the connection is so strong that I think I've found someone I want to spend the rest of my life with, I'm amenable. And, you know, gestational surrogacy does exist. I'm not saying it's cheap, but it does exist.

If a child related to both of us is really that important, and she doesn't want to squeeze one out, it can be done through gestational surrogacy.

Just food for thought.

Hopefully I will be pregnant by the end of this year. My husband will most likely let me quit my job and be a housewife. I'm super excited. Best job ever. My boss is easy to please and I get to be a mom.

>>10402

Congratulations, Anonette! Please always remember how hard he is working and how difficult it is in today's society to support a family with a single income, and be appreciative that he wants to give his child, your child, the best opportunity at a healthy emotional life possible, which is always going to happen with a loving stay at home mother who is always there to guide and soothe them. You will work best as a team, and raising a Good child between the two of you will be beyond rewarding.

>>9204

Cuck

>>10431

Buzzword

I've seen time and time again, women burn out catastrophically without family once later in life. Kids are the most important thing in the world to 9 out of 10 women over 30.

If you won't take my word for it, here's a guy whose job is to listen to and work out peoples' problems, and study why they have them at all.

>>10432

Still serves it's purpose well though.

>>10434

>You won't be happy unless you shit out babies

Nah m8. I don't want a 9 months constipation.

>>10436

Good.

Hearing you speak you'd be a shit mother who'd raise shitty kids.

>>10438

>If you don't want to have a child inside of you, you will be a bad mother

>nvm the fact you might actually like children or anything like that

Men.

When will they ever learn.

>>10438

>If you don't want to have a child inside of you, you will be a bad mother

>nvm the fact you might actually like children or anything like that, no sir. You only need to want to be the pregnant. Everything else is not important

Men.

When will they ever learn.

>>10457

>>10460

Not what I implied.

I said, the way you speak of children confirms you'd be horrible and you're better off not breeding with that kind of mentality. Unless you suddenly spout common sense and feminity.

I'm a woman.

>>10457

>If you don't want to have a child inside of you, you will be a bad mother

This. You can't imagine how many kids I've known whose parents have hated them - mothers in particular - for "Ruining" their vaginas and breasts and lowering their sexual market value/social life. It's pretty sad to see, but it's unfortunately common.

>>10461

>The only way to be feminine is giving birth

>"breeding"

Nah. You are full of shit.

Not wanting to give birth doesn't makes me a chidlren hater. You guys need to understand that some of us simply do not like the idea of giving birth, and the process.

But I would never pass up the chance of raising a baby.

>>10464

Give it up to feminism and a poisoned society. Plus, men can't put their own foot down anymore so they're weak fathers and they let women be terrible.

>>10472

I said you're a shit individual by the crass way you speak of babies.

You're irrationally emotional about it by the way you take thigs so literally and put words in my mouth. Stop projecting on me.

>>10486

You are irrationally emotional about someone not liking the concept of giving birth.

What does that makes you? Who is the one projecting here?

>>10498

Yes, it's pretty irrational to respect basic biology and natural biological and genetic roles rather than selfish, superficial mentality. I agree, thinking babies being compared to constipation being of bad taste is completely unreasonable.

Just keep being in denial about the natural course of things but I can assure you, you give all the indications that you'll be a shit mother who'll raise garbage children and that, we don't need more of in the world.

The problem isn't overpopulation. It's a surplus of low quality individual in a backwards society. What we need is strong, intelligent and good parenting. Parents that actually spend time with their children.

Also more white people. :)

Let me question you on the legitimacy of your reasons why you don't want to give birth like a normal human being. I know the reasons but I'd like to know yours.

>>10500

>Also more white people. :)

And you lost me.

>>10506

:^)

>>10514

that person is either a gay man or one of those lunatic feminists who wants to adopt african orphans like Angelina Jolie

>>10529

Surely you don't mean me.

But I agree.

Self-centered woman who can't grasp the concept of self sacrifice for her children (scared for her body. Low self-esteem. General alienation of basic human needs and purposes. )

Empowered woman who drank the koolaid and believes in common propaganda meant to poison simple minded women's mind and their offspring.

A general simpleton moron who would do a lot of harm to a child.

>>10533

i meant it for d5a185 ID, sadly people like that arent loners in their mentality

>>10434

Please don't misrepresent what Peterson is saying in the video, you dumbfuck.

>>10498

>I said you're a shit individual by the crass way you speak of babies.

How did she speak 'crassly' about babies? Nine month constipation? Squeezing one out? At least you faggots aren't roleplaying with a Hello Kitty flag like that one degenerate the other day.

/pol/ really is pathetic. They can't even hide their asshurt with subtle roleplaying, because they're so upset over someone holding an opinion at the current moment that's contrary to theirs.

Maybe she'll want to have a kid if the right guy comes around. Maybe she'll want a kid when the hormones kick in. Maybe she never will because she's intensely fearful of having a child. A myriad more things. People are complicated.

Unfortunately, you don't understand that because you're a fucking retard whose understanding of the world consists of a lens of shitposts on a backwater imageboard run by a pig farmer in the Philippines, and your personal favorite board on this site run by a turkroach. Get some perspective, dipshit.

>Also more white people. :)

Have you ever given any thought to the fact that you post on an imageboard living off mommy's tendy bux and rambling about white genocide all day instead of getting a job? You should.

>>10538

>spends a paragraph and a half just talking shit at everyone

>namedrops /pol/ as being the problem for no reason

>brings no real points to the conversation

>entire post is a dictionary of ad-hominem

>has to try to reduce opposition's points to "you just don't get it because you're ignorant"

>debases the very website the conversation is taking place on out of nowhere

>all this while either shills or raiders are posting all over non-leftist-friendly boards

>(1)

Tumblrina or /leftypol/? You decide!

Your arguments are not going anywhere.

You're not gonna change someones opinion by telling them they're wrong on an image board.

On a slightly different topic

Who here /hasaneedtobeamother/?

Lately I've been having a strong need to have a kid and raise a family but I can't even take care of myself.

How do i suppress the weird urges?

>>10554

>spends a paragraph and a half just talking shit at everyone

No, you fucking moron, I'm shit talking the NEETs who roleplay as white nationalists and then come to a woman board and don't wear their boyim star while shitposting about white genocide, their favorite topic. How fucking pathetic. You want to talk about low test, you're the definition of it.

You also misrepresented what Peterson is saying in the video. He's talking about work/life balance and it's not going into detail about people who either 1) do not know what they want (because they're young) or 2) are staunchly adamant about it (due to fear or anxiety.) and it STILL doesn't change the fact that he's talking about raising children, and not about giving birth.

Some people just don't want to do it.

Then you fucking retards keep talking about "muh sub saharan african babies" as if everyone who's going to adopt a kid is going to adopt a nigger because this is the only thing your fucking wormy brain knows through imageboards.

>namedrops /pol/ as being the problem for no reason

Okay, now you're just delusional.

>all this while either shills or raiders are posting all over non-leftist-friendly boards

It's funny how people with your mental illness find a way to blame everyone else but the rock-bottom knuckle draggers on /pol/ for how dogshit your dumbass turkroach board is.

>Tumblrina or /leftypol/

lmao, no.

>>10563

It's probably like anything else, just keep yourself busy. Maybe try intense self improvement if the urges are depressing you.

>I can't even take care of myself

Anyone's capable of raising a family, the real challenge is doing so that you do the best you can.

Personally I've always had anxiety about doing the best that I can and avoiding my parents mistakes, because that's really the most in-depth experience you can draw on.

It's either absorption in whatever medium whether it be school or self-improvement, or babysitting/becoming a nanny. Babysitting can be fun, but I've always been told that I'm good with kids and maybe you aren't. It might also make it worse, and you might love the kids so much that you want one of your own. Hard to tell.

>>10584

>We need one hundred million copies of you.

It's funny because the assumption you make is that she's going to let a LARPer like you impregnate her.

Rib splitting hilarity from /pol/, as always.

>>10571

>moves right on to pathologizing the opposition

>every issue is a political one

>anyone who disagrees is obviously from /pol/

>can't reign in ad-hominem even for a moment

>keeps attacking a board that hasn't even been brought up by the opposition and continue to deride imageboards themselves while posting on one

>the site hasn't been under a bot and raid attack over the past 48 hours on multiple boards, everything is always the boogeyman's ( /pol/'s) fault

Are you Swami? Do you need to talk? Where did the White Nationalist touch you?

>>10594

>anyone who disagrees is obviously from /pol/

This thread is definitely their favorite pet peeve topic, so yeah, I'm absolutely sure in that assumption.

You even admit it yourself.

>continue to deride imageboards themselves while posting on one

You miss the point, it's one of lightly mocking self-deprecation, theirs is one of highness and enlightenment.

What a bunch of cringe-worthy fedora tier faggots you are. Projection about low-test, for sure. I have never seen someone so anally ravaged about a woman saying that she didn't want to squeeze one out, personally. "At this point" being the subtext, if you wanted to add it, but you're so autistic that I'm not sure you're capable of subtext.

>>10538

xd I'm a restaurant manager. A woman. Good try though.

Women's purpose in life is to nurture, be feminine and raise a family.

Anything outside of that is either in proapects of strengthening the character with life experiences or simply superficial need to inflate the identity with shallow hedonistic choices.

Eitherway, I failed to see the argument through the irrational hate you spit at me. It's a bad habit if you want to be taken seriously or make sense.

>>10563

You just need discipline and order.

You need to have a goal that gives your purpose so that you want to do these things. Motivation is on demand, create it with your own will. Prioritise.