/girltalk/ - Girl Talk

I dont have an ass fetish tho.

I prefer men going for MY asshole, not the other way around.

Women like confidence, thats it and power

You could be poor, ugly or stupid, as long as you are confident you can get a gf

>>5809

L-Lewd

Who cares? It's not that they go for assholes, it's more that they want high value men, and some women are weird so they have strange preferences for men that otherwise wouldn't get any pussy. But I'm older now so it doesn't matter. Your question is an oversimplification, I believe. I mean, even if the stereotype that "women like jerks" is true, there's no reason to care.

Young girls and adult women sadly confuse impulsiveness with decisiveness, violence with protection and selfishness with confidence. Those are the features of a jerk. Reverse all that and you'll have a clingy, creepy guy.

>>5809

>not the other way around

>assholes going for your men

Yeah I can see why you wouldn't want that.

>>5809

You're not a very deep thinker, right?

>>5922

is that the new H&K?

>>5924

I just think on a different level.

>>5936

>is that the new H&K?

Frankly I do not know.

>>5939

Yeah, about twenty levels below ground.

>>5986

Bully asf

>>5936

Looks like sig 516 to me

>>5819

>>5819

You are retarded. Nobody after the age of fucking 12 still believes that shit. An ugly guy with "le confidence xd" is just a loser who doesn't know his place.

>>6052

How shallow to truly believe appareance and money is everything.

But I bet you are one of the classic "b-but women are evil".

There are a lot of different answers to this and explanations which all combine into a complex but in the end useless answer.

First answer: They don't. You perceive it that way because these men "hurt" the girls, but rarely do they really. That's not to say no men are assholes, but half the time this is sour grapes, "nice guys" angry girls are picking "jerks" over them. They're not actually jerks, they're just confident.

Another part of the time, the men are totally blameless. Personal anecdote, my mother was pretty abusive of my father. She cut up his clothes and threw shit at him, constantly accused him of cheating. Five years into their marriage she waited for him to go to work, and packed me up and all the furniture and moved across the state to her home town leaving him to come home to an empty house with only a toaster left behind as a "fuck you". She expected him to chase her, to follow her across the state to her home territory. She'd already made him move from his home state to hers, and now she wanted him to live with her where she had her parents so she had leverage in disagreements. She told him she wanted a divorce. He said "Okay." moved to another part of the state and remarried another woman whom he has remained married to for the last 30 years, but in her telling of the story he was a horribly abusive monster who left her.

So that out of the way, what about the cases there the dudes are genuine chodes? Pump and dump, love 'em and leave 'em? Men lie, women lie. If you fuck quickly in the relationship he's got what he wants. He has no obligation to stick around. Even if he denies it on a primal instinctual level he will never take your slut ass seriously. "That's not true! I have a loving boyfriend of FOUR BILLION years and he doesn't care that I've fucked TWENTY SPORTS STADIUMS full of people!" Oi, now listen here you stupid little cunt, I'm talking in general not your personal statistically irrelevant anecdote. It's called a "tall asian fallacy". "There are few Asian basketball players because most of them are kind of short." "That's not true! I saw a really tall Chinese man once!" ONCE, bitch. "But YOU gave an anecdote earlier!" It wasn't meant to suggest statistics were wrong, but merely give an example of how some portion of the time, it's the girl's fault.

But that doesn't get to the root of the issue, does it? Melania Trump was asked in an interview "Would you be married to your husband if he wasn't rich?" she responded "Do you think he'd be married to me if I wasn't beautiful?" It's the way we're wired, call it shallow but both sides are wired as they are for reasons of survival. Men care about physical attractiveness and sexual purity, women care about wealth and status. In an interview on Anna Ferris's "Unqualified" podcast, Stan Lee stated that the super hero that got the most female fan mail over the years was Tony Stark and the general tone of every single letter was "I think I could fix him." "I don't care about money!" and that's why you fuck "assholes".

See, this basic evolutionary process has been thwarted in the last century. Women prefer wealthier men of higher status because amassing these things means they've proven they're responsible and can take care of them and provide for children. Here comes the drum beat of the womanchild: "Bitch please, I don't want to be taken care of! I can take care of myself! I don't even want to have children!" And this is why you think the guys you're fucking are "assholes". The welfare state and numerous programs meant to benefit women at the cost of men (who pay the majority of taxes) have turned the state into your husband, that's who you rely on to take care of you as a fallback, in the meantime you believe you should be independent. Removing financial circumstances as your primary motivator in picking a mate (usually replaced with physical attractiveness) means you're now picking from a pool of irresponsible men. Men who will have no other financial option but to flee if they knock you up. And as you've lowered your market value by giving it away before marriage, he has no reason to commit to you. He owes you nothing.

And this is why you have cats and a row full of vibrators.

>>6311

somewhat harsh, but basically correct

https://youtu.be/p8ePDKlF6T0

Because they go for us, while 'nice guys' are too pussy to even ask a girl on a date.

>>6311

>Stan Lee stated that the super hero that got the most female fan mail over the years was Tony Stark and the general tone of every single letter was "I think I could fix him." "I don't care about money!" and that's why you fuck "assholes".

Well, I mean, Ironman IS bae. Compare it to that dork of Spiderman.

>>6350

Spidey is nailing an actual model while at the same time trying to keep one of the world's few hot cat ladies from slurping his cock dry at many an occasion. He doesn't get to complain about the lack of female attention in his life.

>>5804

Well, because my first bf wanted to know what getting dicked felt like then I decided I liked it.

>>7825

So basically treat them like shit and they'll fall for you?

>>7826

>>7825

Why don't you guys try that and tell us how it goes.

>>7826

>>7829

I never said "treat them like shit." It's more "view them as inferior and stick to traditional gender roles." Which is what every successful guy does whether he knows it or not. You think a woman is going to ask you out? Or date you if you're less assertive than her or won't take initiative? You can be a 10/10 but if you treat her like an equal you have 0 chance

>>7834

but as far as treat them like shit, no. In fact almost the opposite. Part of "view them as inferiors" is treating them like a child who's incapable of handling any adversity

>>7835

So

>let them win an argument, but you do your thing anyway

>enforce any rules you have in your relationship

That sort of thing?

>>7834

>You think a woman is going to ask you out? Or date you if you're less assertive than her or won't take initiative? You can be a 10/10 but if you treat her like an equal you have 0 chance

Sadly this. Even I got asked out first.

>>7838

Start thinking of women as inferior and objectifying them and it will come more naturally. Stop second-guessing with "I don't know if she wants me to make a move" or "if she like me she would be showing me." Force yourself to go in for the kiss after a couple dates. Ask a girl out even if she hasn't shown any interest. It gets easier with time.

>>7836

mainly just be nicer to them than you'd be with a fellow male, and you should be the one taking charge and doing the work because women can't

Just throwing in my two cents on the current discussion, but >>7856 is right.

And honestly when I realized that I'd have to do this kind of shit I lost interest in dating/seeking women.

Now I know what you're thinking,

>He just said some shit about nice guys feeling the need to see women as equals

But I don't. Rather, the knowledge that it's foolhardy to desire an equal partnership is what's turned me off.

The biggest reason being that in any circle of friends I develop, I always wind up as an unintended leader. I tend to have people following me in general, regardless of gender, and as such I keep myself up and more presentable, and always do my best to guide people towards what their potential is (hint, not just following me.) Just so they have a good role model.

If you want a TL;DR, knowing I'd have to be a leader in a relationship is off putting to me, for the same reason a pornstar wouldn't want to date a nympho.

>I just spent all my time doing (thing), and you expect me to not be tired, and willing to do (thing) with you when I get back home?

>Fuck off.

>>7860

If you wanna misinterpret what I'm saying like that, then by all means act like that's what I said.

>>7869

Okay, reread it. So you're just bored by it, that it?

It's simple, cultural programming in opposition to biology.

There are traits girls find attractive, and people trying to monkey with our culture are prescribing the opposite. Nevermind conspiracy theories, or other explaining why for now.

Simply put, there's a big cultural push telling boys to treat girls like they're a house of cards, telling them to never say anything that might make a woman feel threatened or objectified.

Naturally, women hate being treated like that, and that approach (Or lack thereof, as trying to strike up anything is 90% treated as asshole behavior in media.) But because society is telling guys to act that way, the only men that hit the right buttons are the ones who care little or nothing about rules and other people's feelings.

>>7884

Yeah. I still want kids and everything, and I still talk to women for the slim chance that she'd be a "one," but my interest in it is pretty much zero now.

I want a partner, not a follower, and female nature in general sets women up for being the latter.

There are of course, exceptions that prove the rule, and I'm still hopeful I'll find one some day.

>>7900

I wouldn't fret, you'll find someone. Like one snailgirl said in the Male Thread, if you want someone more "dominant" (probably a match for you), look for a more abrasive girl. Power couple best couple.

>>7901

Thanks.

And yeah, I have a thing for girls with a bit of "bite" to them.

Potential complications arise with how those types of girls also tend to have huge issues, and I've been burned in the past, but I'm sure I'll find someone eventually.

Besides, it's hypocritical to expect to find a match that isn't damaged goods, too.

>>7902

Sorry,

*Hypocritical of me

>>7902

I'll be rooting for ya, anon. Good luck.

>>7860

you treat them nice in the way you treat a child nice: Because you don't respect them. That's what women want.

(obviously don't tell them that though)

>>7912

So basically nice means "in a polite yet condescending manner?"

>>7913

basically yeah. Like you don't fuck with them the way you would a man, because women can't handle it. And you make sure to take charge and do the work in the relationship because she's too inferior to do that

>>5804

Because girls are submissive and they don't want a nice guy with a boring personality, who constantly asks them "is this okay, does this hurt". Someone who is so afraid to offend anybody that he censors himself to make people like him, but nobody does, because he is boring.

Not giving a fuck about what other people think is the best you can do.

t. someone who has gotten rid of anxiety by not giving a fuck about what other people think and taking cold showers (might be a placebo, who knows)

>>5936

>>5983

>>5998

H&K 417. The soldier himself is French.

>>5804

because of socialism

girls prefer physically attractive normies instead of intellectually attractive nerds because they know that even if their partner is going to be poor then they will nevertheless be able to feed their offspring because of socialism

also chads leave their girls to inseminate another and another and single mother will get benefits from socialist state

>>5819

Ugly dudes who act confident come off as rapey.

>>6311

Quality effort post. Woman style. This post exemplifies the reason why /girltalk/ is a nice idea.

I think you and I would get along, since this sounds like something I would write.

>>8610

What kind are you, anon?

>>8071

>The best way to demonstrate that you're not afraid of other guys or simply better than them is to verbally and pubically remind them in an entertaining way that challenges their masculinity. Someone stronger than you will always retaliate more effectively, weaker men will barely react.

>Kind people never want to challenge their peers or make anyone uncomfortable. In social environments they sink to the lowest passive ranks because they fail to appreciate how much value social competition has to an individual. Weak men don't have the option and whether they want to or not doesn't matter.

Call me a weak man then tbh because I don't see what's to be gained in trying to "alpha" other men.

>>8617

I'm a girl, duh

>>8629

Then allow me to reword it.

Who do you like best, between the two extremes?

here comes a big ol' generalization. i think it's because a lot of women are passive and want some douche to be in charge of decisionmaking and where you go to dinner/what movies you get to see in the theater. i can't date assertive assholes because of the opposite reason, i hate listening to other people and i hate other people getting in my way. luckily, my hudband is very passive and quiet and doesn't know how to do anything, so i can just hold his hand through menial tasks.

>>8944

Be honest, you're fucking someone behind his back because he ain't good enough for you, huh?

>>8949

nah, he is literally the best person for me. he is free to fuck any other girl in the world if he gets bored with just me, though. but we're approaching 8 years with 0 problems so i guess we're doing ok.

>>8958

Someone goes to /cuckquean/ I see

>>8962

Thought the same thing. Weird place, though they seem peaceful enough.

>>8071

10/10 post anon, screencapped

>>5804

>Why do women go for assholes?

Because 9/10 they're assholes too?

Women like chads, and chads tend to be dicks. Simple answer.

>>7838

basically after making every decision count to three in your head before setting off to go do that decision

>t.chad

>>10706

>shit should I dodge this ball being thrown at me

>???

>just fuck my shit up

>>8014

>>8071

A trillion times these. All of it.

Interesting little lecture on what women statistically fantasize about, which sheds like on "the female hero-myth".

>>8014

>>8071

>>10958

To expand upon this with advice I've read up before (but never took much stock in since you need to be the most alpha of alpha to pull it off. That and the guy recommended injecting beetroot juice into your leg veins to gain muscle during exercise).

Keep in mind this is just a repost of info- and it is free to be torn apart.

- If she instigates sex and demands it her way, deny her. The idea being you stop the idea you're just a dick & a wallet rather than a man from the get-go. Also combines with the whole "Sex is to satisfy the man, which in turn should be enough to satisfy her" belief.

I'm half and half on it. IMO, satisfy her if you both want sex, and be dominant. That includes saying how you're gonna fuck. But don't fucking sulk and turn over because she wants to be on top.

- Call her a "good girl" when she (or you) orgasm. Tying into what >>8014 says, it's whatever the praise version of admonish is and positive reinforcements 101. I'm biased towards this because it's a turn-on for me.

- If she wants to be choked (the original writer claimed all girls liked to be choked. Which is fucking dumb because even if it is true, you get people who aren't ready for it. "Get on the roller-coaster bitch, you'll love it"), don't be so prideful you don't call an ambulance. Look up everything (what color her face can go before it's no longer safe, resuscitation techniques, etc). He also recommended instead of a strangling position, get behind her and flex your arm muscles while she is in a one-armed headlock (arm muscles required). The idea isn't to cut off airflow, but cut off bloodflow to the brain (and this is where I hard noped out of it).

Of course, with how the average male is nowadays (both in courting and in the bedroom), only simple acts of domination (admonishment, teasing male co-workers, etc) might be enough.

>>11023

> All things sex are an ebb and flow, and as much as you push, you must also pull. If you're going to choke a girl and pull her hair, you also have to kiss her and tell her that you love her.

This is a big thing in BDSM as well IIRC. Apparently you have "aftercare". I.e. after you've used her throat as a cock polisher and spanked her ass until it is so red it can be used as a landing light on an airport runway, you pamper her and care for her. You cuddle, you kiss, you get her snacks & food she likes, you watch her favorite show or movie, you whisper sweet nothings, etc.

Also, on a different but kinda related stint- this is also used by abusive relationships. Cults use Love Bombing (giving the individual a lot of affection, then cutting them off until they do X), and abusive relationships do it the other way around (mentally or physically abuse the person, then love bomb them when they "behave" or as an apology for what "you made them do"- tempting attempts by the victim to fix the abuser or even the victim believing they need to "fix" themselves).

Of course, I'm not suggesting BDSM shares any comparisons to an abusive relationship beyond that. If anything, BDSM (and other fetishes) are an addiction. I.e. you can provide the "high" they want in a safe environment- where no one will find out and there's a limit. Of course, if they want that high to escalate, shit can end up fucked fast.

But yeah, you can be dominant without being an asshole. Think of differences between alpha protagonists and alpha antagonists in fiction (probably need to rely on older fiction due to modern media being fucked). Odds are the antagonist shows no control of anger or uses anger as a tool (no safe place for a woman), while the protagonist still wins out, but remains cool & calm (able to achieve great goals showing no signs of struggle. They're healthy, strong, and can handle what is thrown at them).

>>11035

>2 pennies

>But there is only one pictured there

>>11035

Well you seem to be in the same situation as my mother…honestly her kids (me and my bro) didn't turn out so great.

I don't blame you either, my dad, just like your husband, was a huge asshole, and now a days I don't wanna talk to my father anymore, he is just a depressed lazy fat fuck. But don't start thinking that now that you are the "boss" that your sons won't catch up with your bs, okay? you have problems like every human being, and your kids will be influenced by those problems. Also, let the father assume some important roles when it comes to raising the child, nothing feminine, just let him teach them the important stuff.

>>11042

Hmm, yes I see your point. At this point the only thing that matters is our children's future and I definitely wouldn't want to traumatize them. Try hard to keep them out of our issues (I wouldn't fight in front of them). I encourage my husband to be a good role model, he knows but he has rather degenerate habits like weed smoking usung foul language and is a homebody. to be honest I think he is depressed(became passive). I hope we get it together I want our kids to be able to survive SHTF.

>>11047

Yeah, you should talk to him about this :I My father is super depressed right now, and I despise him, especially as a role model. Maybe if you two talk abou this you might be able to avoid the same path that my father followed.

Also, if your husband is depressed because he is passive now, he clearly needs to change his habits and the way he handles life in general, make sure he is more assertive, but at the same time, try to make sure that he doesn't became a huge asshole again (not to mention…you were the one who marred an asshole)

>>11051

Thanks for the advice, I don't believe in divorce so this is the bath I will soak in.

Maybe with encouragement he will get better (like get a hobby). Honestly I feel bad it's like this, but yeah he is older and maybe wiser so I just need to be the glue and ask for his help to make our family strong. Living in the confines of society makes people so apathetic. Want to just move to the country and leave this all behind. I bet that is a part of our problem

>>11055

Probably, also be patient, I never heard of a case where the women managed to "re-alpha" her husband, but if some girl out there did managed to achieve such thing I would image that it take a really long time.

>>11059

Hm, yes I imagine there will be some long nights ahead. In a good way of course.

Quick question.

If a woman is aware of all this; that on average they'll be attracted to a man that is dominant and an "asshole" (by this thread's definition), does it cause her to no longer enjoy it?

Femanons- with this info would you still be attracted to a guy like that, or because you knew the reason does it make you feel like the guy is putting up a front to get with you, or even just that you know why it works takes the mystery and thrill out of it?

Even if I met a girl who understood all this, I'd be tempted to still try it. In moderation.

After my crush got out of an abusive relationship consisting of physical violence + destruction of property (ultra-combo), her 'friends' jumped the guy's bones. Don't trust no bitch, don't even trust the victim.

Young Millennial Women are hybristophiliac skanks with their own Columbine Tumblr blog, confirmed to be conceited and with a choker + big-frame glasses.

Now ladies… Don't get mad! 'cause ya'll be up to some shit! eHehehe!

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Hypergamy

>>7902

>And yeah, I have a thing for girls with a bit of "bite" to them.

It's far easier to create this personality in your significant other than expecting her to have this naturally.

It's all about control. Females are control junkies. They either attempt to dominate outright, or else they "top from the bottom" by faking a submissive posture, while being manipulative in other ways which their victims are unable to detect.

They prefer "assholes" i.e. "bad boys" because these males are invariably immature in one way or another, coupled with a low IQ, and are, therefore, more easy to manipulate and control. The only time she's likely to behave "submissively" is in the bedroom, again, primarily because being sexually submissive actually gets her off, though she claims it's all about pleasing her man.

TL:DR women are untrustworthy, hyper-controlling, sub-human garbage, unfit for anything except a quick and easy pump and dump scenario.

Don't ever seriously date or marry these useless whores, guys. Let them grow old alone with their cats.

Bros before hoes.

It's all about control. Females are control junkies. They either attempt to dominate outright, or else they "top from the bottom" by faking a submissive posture, while being manipulative in other ways which their victims are unable to detect.

They prefer "assholes" i.e. "bad boys" because these males are invariably immature in one way or another, coupled with a low IQ, and are, therefore, more easy to manipulate and control. The only time she's likely to behave "submissively" is in the bedroom, again, primarily because being sexually submissive actually gets her off, though she claims it's all about pleasing her man.

TL:DR women are untrustworthy, hyper-controlling, sub-human garbage, unfit for anything except a quick and easy pump and dump scenario.

Don't ever seriously date or marry these useless whores, guys. Let them grow old alone with their cats.

Bros before hoes.

>>12358

At last, I truly see.

>>12357

>>12358

I mean, you aren't 100% wrong. You raise some points. But you sound so bitter and hateful, and that makes you sound biased.

>>12361

>I totally agree with what you're saying, but you sound biased

The truth is biased.

>>12420

No. The truth is factual and irrefutable.

If you have to include your feelings in an otherwise sound argument, it starts losing value and becoming an emotional fallacy.

>>12358

>They prefer "assholes" i.e. "bad boys" because these males are invariably immature in one way or another, coupled with a low IQ, and are, therefore, more easy to manipulate and control.

That doesn't make any sense, beta orbiters are much easier to manipulate than violent assholes.

>>11021

>Bi-fag here

Dept. of Redundancy Department.

>>12423

>truth is factual and irrefutable

so is video

>>12427

>violent assholes

>>12434

>>12435

It works both ways.

Also those girls are "crazy" for a reason. If you think every woman is like that, then you are really deep into the rabbit hole, filled to the brim with warped generalizations

Why don't you go gay already, if women are such demons.

>>12441

#NAWALT

At which point do they count as violent assholes? My boyfriend slaps me in the face all the time.

>>12361

you basically just admitted women register emotions higher than logic and hard facts.

bravo.

>>12458

I just think being hateful clouds your views. No need for bias of any way.

>>12445

So explain why aren't homo already if you think women are shit.

>>12466

>hateful

>home

why are the shaming tactics of women so predictable and pathetic?

>>12469

>homo*

>>12469

Let's think about this logically.

You hate women.

So, you either go homo or disregard any affective and sexual relations. Because, after that, what else is it there to like?

It makes no sense for you to find women appealing in any way, after all you have said.

>>12472

>if he drops truth bombs that show women in an unflattering light, he must hate women

>if he hates women, he must be a homo

>woman logic

>>12456

I would say that qualifies, unless you did it first

>>12496

But if you hate women like you said you do… How can you want to have anything with one? It makes no sense,

>>12504

>like you said you do

?

>>12506

<if he hates women, he must be a homo

>woman logic

You never denied such claims.

>>12508

>Let's think about this logically.

>You hate women.

>you said you do

?

<woman logic

>>12510

Tell me how you don't then.

So far you look like the average ebin mysoginist who think women are garbage because he has had no luck with one, and blaming a whole sex is far easier than blaming yourself and try to pinpoint what is actually wrong with you.

>>12511

>it's your fault

>you must be a loser

>or a homo

derp

>>12445

Women are way more likely to be killed by their partners than vice versa.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fvv.pdf

Why are you dykes unironically arguing with mgtow?

>>12512

Day of the womb chambers when, brother? Soon, I hope.

>>5986

Seems pretty deep to me.

>>12472

Since when did attraction have to make sense?

>>12519

It always annoys me when MGTOWs lose sight of what they're supposed to be about and start seeing women as the problem that needs fixing rather than the laws and legal system enabling them.

>>14086

Not a mgtow, but don't you thing that women should also be taught about things like personal responsibility and not being cunts? You know, people tent do like decent human beings, and I don't think that jus focusing on the legal system will fix thing, I think that there is some cultural/societal aspect that should be discussed.

But yeah, I agree that the laws and legal system is bias against men.

I kinda hate myself and don't think I deserve anything more than being mistreated. I love seeing potential in guys where there actually is none. I tell myself that I can fix them and then wonder why I keep ending up in super abusive relationships. Perhaps it's because I grew up without a dad? Sucks being mentally damaged, but I still try to do my best.