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ooo, subversion! I like it

someone start the dumping of SJW hate.

>>322062

>create a profile that includes their full name, place of employment, city of residence and schools.

So… it's a doxxing database? How exactly is this going to make GG look good in any way?

>our team determines

It's relying on opinion and not some sort of objective determination? That seems like it could easily be open to abuse…

I mean, as someone who is usually trying to point out that GG doesn't use the same tactics as SJW's, isn't that kinda what this is, just on a much larger scale?

What happens when Law & Order makes another episode and just points to this database of "targets" that we helped make?

>They talk more about being women than details of the project.

Yeah, that's not a red flag if I've ever seen one.

Personally, I'd wait a bit longer how this develops. We've seen Randi going against SJWs in cases like this and calling them out on possible harassment incentives. (Hypocrisy, I know).

I don't see this project ending well for these women and especially not good for us if we copy them.

>>322114

We are not copying them, since we don't post anybody's private information.

We were always archiving shit SJWs do and making infodump pics with links to their social media posts. This isn't anything different than archive.is, tweetsave or DeeprFreeze.

As for them, so far their campaign gathered around 1k in 12 hours, and their database is already gathering examples. Of course, if their thing flops, we won't bother with them anymore, but we still will have our archive.

You are called cyberterrorist for almost two years. And you are worried about what, SJWs screaming it's harassment to archive them harassing others?

>>322115

I actually rather have the bigger picture in mind. I do have a huge collection of archives of SJWs as well, which I'll contribute here sooner or later (when I have the time to go through my bookmarks). This looks similar to Voxday's attempt with a different focus, which kinda split some in GG. We've been sharing these archives on a small level anyway, so it won't be much different, I just worry what effects it can have on others in GG. I don't like things that might cause infighting.

>>322116

Voxday's thing… He blew it by promoting it as a blacklist and acting in his own typical fashion in response to criticism and worries.

We are making an organized harassment archive, GG people shouldn't have any problem with this. I never heard that anybody within GG had a problem with GG-News. Information about the Op on GG-N won't be posted in-character like here, it will plainly state our purpose. If concerns arise, there also will be a response on GG-N.

I think this should be enough.

Sure. If we're at it, why not pay for Crash Override Network as well.

But seriously, are you fucking retarded?

What do you hope to gain from this, except for good PR, which has never done fucking anything.

>>322123

>>322122

He explicitly said that it isn't about giving money. It's about pointing out their hypocrisy if they won't list SJWs in their database. Read the full OP.

>>322062

IF, big if, it's funded, we should keep tabs on its actual viability to stay open. It sounds as fake as Crash Override, ZQ and Lifschitz's joke of an anti-harrassment organization.

Realistically, we've never successfully infiltrated or exposed Crash Override's processes with any visibility, just vague stories about someone not being replied to despite being a "valid" target of harassment.

I suspect Degree180's kickstarter would also ignore 99% of all submissions and have no transparency as well. If it becomes a thing and we can subvert it, you can trust that someone will, but there's nothing to be done now at the moment other than pray people don't throw more money at stupid.

>>322121

excellent quality on that Elite Four pic

>>322121

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/irony

>>322122

>>322123

It's not about paying, read op.

>>322125

Their database is gathering examples already, they need money for bigger manpower.

They become a thing or not, we will have our organized archive of SJW harassment. This should be done long time ago, and this is good occasion to motivate people.

>>322128

Personally, I don't give a shit whatever they get funded or not.

As for the blacklist, we always archived shit that SJWs did. We will finally organize this information.

>>322125

Yeah this is why im skeptical.

What counts as harassment is completely open to peoples interpretation.

It always ends up as a popularity contest where its decided that certain groups are OK to be harassed (IE us) and other groups are completely off limits for any type of criticism (like strong indypyndynt wymyn)

In a popularity contest we will always lose.

As a group we have the least social capital ever. We make up for that by being stubborn and skeptical.

We are like the poor kid who gets mercilessly bulled every day at school. If someone from the popular crowd comes over and appears to want to help, it has to be a trick. Nobody benefits from helping us.

>>322131

What could a possible scenario be if we submit stuff like Harpers doxx (see >>322112) and they refuse to list it and we make their hypocrisy public? How could that turn out for us? Positive? Negative?

.>>322132

They will just ignore everything that doesnt fit their preconceived world view like they have done from the start.

This is a really effective tactic when you have all the mainstream media outlets lining up to parrot everything you say.

My worry is this will be used by both sides as a weapon but our voice will be lost in all the irrational screaming.

The media will push the narrative of poor innocent pathetic women being bullied by big bad misogynist men and thats all most people will see.

>>322131

Stuff like doxing is hard to defend.

If Cathy Young is able to talk with them, we can ask her to ask them for their "harassment guidelines". If they will choose Black Box approach, we will know they are shady.

Read also below

>>322132

If they won't post such things as doxing, we will have a confirmation of their bias.

The worst case scenario is that we will have our database and they theirs. For us nothing badly changes - we are still cyberterrorists, no biggie. At least there will be some organized archive, there is nothing to lose.

MSM will defend them - again, nothing changes. Still, our database becomes a forbidden fruit and it will be a decent red pill to convince people to switch to the alternative media. Our organized harassment archive will be also useful to anybody wanting to make a case against SJW harassment.

Optimistic, I know, but we really can't lose anything here.

We do nothing and they don't publish their database, nothing changes.

We do nothing and they publish their database, they will have a tool that can be abused. And even if they are honest, nobody but us will give them examples of SJW harassment.

We do something and they cry harassment - if they are dishonest they would do that without us doing anything.

We do something and somebody else uses this to attacks them and pin the blame on us - the media don't need anybody's help to pin the blame for harassment on us. They don't even need actual harassment to do this.

We do something, we at least have organized SJW harassment archive.

There is no reason to do nothing.

>>322139

>if they are dishonest they will do that without us doing anything.

https://twitter.com/adland/status/720256629871140864

From the sounds of it this is like some weird mix of an archive screenshot and dox site. Bit surprised Kickstarter hasn't pulled the plug on it yet since it pretty blatantly violates the ToS. I'm all in for the subversion, though I fully expect some people to magically be whitelisted.

I think this sort of thing is a bad idea because they're a Kickstarter and it'll probably just end up giving them attention.

https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/720324721867239429

The better way of action would reporting that shit to Kickstarter. That thing would be a doxing operation that wouldn't spare minors.

Cathy Young will soon post what she learned

https://twitter.com/CathyYoung63/status/720337845022384128

Due to your folks concerns I'll play it safe and await her findings.

>>322157

They are speaking about twitter GG, which was already talking about them when I was writing the OP.

Harper also gives attention to them, but I guess they prefer to ignore her

https://twitter.com/randileeharper/status/719999358029041664

Not that surprising she is against them, she also hates archive.is since it archives her harassment.

And are also competition she doesn't control, apparently.

Seems whatever happens it will be a lots of fun.

>>322166

Oh, and stuff like that.

They have 2 YT subs, Degree180 twatter has less followers than my own, they didn't verify SocialAutopsy twatter until recently and their campaign description is pure cringle.

They are amateurs that are already hated by our old and experienced enemies.

You guys are really sure we don't want to give them big profile?

I'm seeing a shill in our midst, and it is OP.

We should be nuking this thing from orbit. It shouldn't be drawing breath!!!

>>322186

ya have two route to choose from, and no one said ya can't do both.

a) rile up people against it, exposing it for the bullying in disguise that it is, how it might target minor, how its too subjective and dangerous

b)subvert it, flood it with example of SJW doing said bullying, force them to either eat their own or be hypocrites for the world to see.

>>322062

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>>322194

MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT ASSHOLE

>>322201

right-wing, maybe.

>>322170

>75K to make a site to say, "see? see? look how mean the internet is"

Really it's totally not a scam you guys.

>>322171

>screen shot which can be shopped

>not an archive

This seems exploitable.

>>322062

What the fuck are you doing?

Jesus Christ this is fucking insane. Why the fuck would ANYONE think that this is a good idea?

>After all, how would it look for them if there was another database of hate speech and cyberbulling they refused to include due to politics?

Do you SERIOUSLY believe people will give a flying fuck???? If their kickstarter is successful do you think ANYONE will care if they are being dishonest? Seriously? ALL the individuals GG unmasked as harassers and bullies and almost NONE of them have lost any public credibility in the industry.

How in the ever loving fuck do you think that these people who LISTED A FUCKING GG SUPPORTER IN THEIR FUCKING VIDEO will put the harrasers that GG expose for the past TWO YEARS in their database????

They're fighting ANONYMITY NOT PUBLIC FIGURES. They are talking about DOXING people who THEY THEMSELVES VET. THEY have the final say so if the person is exposed. NOT the public - the fucking company determines who is added.

We should have blind faith that if this feminist organization is exposed as frauds that somehow people will care?????

For fuck sake haven't that past 2 years taught you ANYTHING?

You're talking about actually ALLOWING an Orwellian concept to come to fruition. Your talking about HELPING these individuals dictate WHO should be labeled a bully and harasser on the internet. I get that you believe that GG has nothing to loose, since GG has been slandered from the very beginning, but this ISN'T GG. We're talking about PUBLIC SURVEILLANCE. What the hell are you guys thinking? They are talking about DOXING anonymity!

Have you not learned a single fucking thing for the past two years?

NO ONE here remembers the peeple app???

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/02/app-allows-users-rate-people-human-beings/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/09/30/everyone-you-know-will-be-able-to-rate-you-on-the-terrifying-yelp-for-people-whether-you-want-them-to-or-not/

http://archive.is/aAcNm

http://archive.is/ky8tk

How is this https://archive.is/PSSYm#selection-381.53-381.192

any different from the peeple campaign???

What the fuck are you doing?

>>322212

>a very high percentage of the people McCarthy fingered as either Communists or Communist sympathizers really, actually were

Um. Yeah? And since when is it a crime to be a communist? A communist simply believes that a society should be run in a certain way. That does not mean that you should fucking blacklist them.

If those communists had started going around killing capitalists just for being capitalists or sending people to gulags, then yeah you'd have a fucking case to make that they should face some consequences.

>over 350 Americans spying for the Soviets

Oh, so they were guilty of espionage.

The enemy of America was the opposing nation Russia (or, whatever, soviet republic), not the actual concept of communism.

America is supposed to be the land of the freedom, there's an amendment that protects a citizen's right to believe and say whatever they want. Go ahead and prosecute people for espionage and spying for the USSR all you want, but being "a member of the communist party" is not something that can possibly be illegal in the USA.

>>322248

Actually, if I participated in this, my goal was to uncover their hypocrisy and help destroy their credibility (and their platform alongside it). You aren't thinking far enough mate.

Yeah, the more I find out about this the more skeptical I am that it could be good in any way.

I mean it's still a database where they want to include people's personal information, which opens it right up to doxxing.

Sure you can argue you have to know their name first (which in this day and age isn't an issue) but what about crawlers just searching for people to attack?

Not only that, but to associate this with GG, you know that the media will just use it as another example of GG doxxing people.

…and then there are those who would look at it and say "they're using the same tactic as the SJW's, getting people fired for their opinions on social media!" because you know if this gets big jobs will be using this to look up their workers.

I just don't see how this can be good in any way. I mean don't get me wrong, it sounds like a good idea at first.

…if you don't think about it too much.

>>322244

>How dare these people infringe on MY cash cow!

Oh, whale.

>>322251

> it sounds like a good idea at first.

No, it doesn't.

Take a look at the vids here.

>>322171

Understand that to search for someone all you need is a name. Either a person's, company's, or organization. You can narrow it down by city and state afterwards. The information you'll get is:

Picture

Full Name

City/State

Employment

Schools

Social Media Accounts

Name, location, and accounts to dig. Location includes direct location of where you can find them on a regular basis.

Don't know somebody's name but know where they work/go to school? Just search for it and look around until you find them by their picture.

These people don't understand how doxing actually works so they say "it's not doxing" even though it's recreating exactly what you'd do.

Harmful Opinions made a vid about Social Autopsy:

>>322139

>Stuff like doxing is hard to defend.

So is pedophilia but when one of the SJWs was outed as a massive pedo they just circled the wagons and ignored it.

In their minds nothing they do can make them as bad as what they imagine gamergate to be.

And these delusional people control the media.

>>322248

>>322250

Maybe before posting next tl;dr actually bother to read the whole thread.

1) We organize archive of harassers, it's a simple data organization Op.

2) At the same time, we are trying to make them take our data and expose the hypocrisy if they wont. Given your main concern is that they will take the data, know that SJWs already hate them and will go apes-hit if they suddenly host their harassment. In other words, your worst fears will kill them.

3) Nothing stops you with coming up with a plan to blow them up. So come up with one if you want to do so badly.

4) Those people are plain idiots with shitty system, they will most likely only end up hurting themselves anyway.

Since you like to dramatically scream so much, let me also scream

HOLY SHIT YOU ARE SERIOUSLY WORRYING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT STARTED KICKSTARTER WITH 2 YT SUBS, TWATTER OF A PARENT COMPANY THAT HAS 100 SOMETHING FOLLOWERS NO MARKETING AND GROUND WORK WITH MEDIA AND HAS A SHITTY WORDPRESS PAGE WHERE WE CAN POST HITLER MEMES AND THEY CALL ZOE THE LEADER OF GAMERGATE

Relax, plot taking down their site if you feel like it, but IMO you can as well wait to watch the fireworks.

In the meantime, let me motivate people to finally organize those damned archvies we were making for a fucking reason, and lay ground for SOME plan if you fail to blow them up.

Subvert or Destroy. I'm fine with both as I already told you >>322244 so don't waste your energy when you can use them to bring them down.

Actually

>Funding Suspended

>Funding for this project was suspended by Kickstarter 33 minutes ago.

Congrats, you won. Can I start building our organized archive now?

>>322260

>So is pedophilia but when one of the SJWs was outed as a massive pedo they just circled the wagons and ignored it.

We didn't have strong evidence, only text written logs. People doubted them, and while we could prove them being authentic so Butts didn't try to deny them, she went with edgy teen defense.

But notice that Butts never became new Wu or Zoe. They knew they could defend this only within our social media culture wars cesspool, but this couldn't reach the main public. Was there ever any AGG media article about this shit?

A database of archives can become a forbidden fruit of knowledge. Maybe this won't beat the media, but the information that is in some corners of the internet won't do any better.

This should be done over the year ago, and there was already an attempt for it but not that well moderated and abandoned

http://gamergateharassment.tumblr.com/

Utter KEK

The Kickstarter campaign is already suspended

They do seem to be implying that they got outside funding right now.

>>322289

>>322290

Should read:

The fact that the proposed operation was to assist a company (whose goal it is to break the internet) in order for GG to target low grade professional victims who barely mean dick when the company readily admits it wants to police the internet and use the public to do it is insane. A larger threat than anti-GG, harassers, abusers, doxers, and professional victims comes a long staring anon's dead in the face and OP wants anons to assist in the demise of internet anonymity.

told you it was a train wreck.

>>322339

that's a)

which seem to be the one that worked best, heard it was suspended, this was a good day :)

Holy shit that finally posted.

To clear up the titles, the claim is that it was Zoe on the phone, that Zoe was one of the few people with access to that particular email, and those emails happened within an hour of making her cry over the phone.

Shit's still retarded and there's still no proof, just stuff she said. Now watch it all be some faggot trolling everyone for fun.

>>322377

Someone send her the info on what quinn and anita trued to pull at the un

Was this thread started by LW?

>>322383

It was a GG supporter on twatter. I know who started this thread.

>>322384

Okay according to the Arby's interview, it looks like LW may be trying to false flag people to go against Social Autopsy.

>>322386

>39 minute webm

>under 8MB

impressive

>>322386

It was interesting to hear about the radio silence of gamergate outside of the tech industry. This could help the fight against gamer's opponents.

>>322387

As it is primarily audio, the video aspect can be smaller.

>>322389

AFAIK OP is part of OPFirefly. His idea was misguided, but I don't believe in malicious intent. I won't reveal his identity since tons of faggots here seemed to misinterpret what he actually wanted to accomplish.

I'm >>322114 >>322116 >>322124 btw.

Keep documenting it. This shit can become more important than we first thought in the long run.

>>322409

By the way, I hope you are archiving all slightly relevant tweets by them and possibly Harper/Quinn and others you come across.

>>322414

Not sure if they're being auto-archived now or if somebody is just archiving like a madman but anything recently posted is already done.

https://archive.is/https://twitter.com/socialcoroner/*

Recent, that is.

Some of their earlier tweets are for some reason deleted, including the first one they ever did. Some of the tweets in their rant about the girl who called them are deleted too and they were never individually archived. The list of all their tweets proves they're real but no way to tell the replies or who liked it.

Okay, faggots, you know the LW's are shitting bricks and the disinformation is going to be running thick and deep. So before you go biting on this "She's just another SJW, HATE HER" bait, check your primary sources, that Ralph stream, especially 15:00 to 20:00:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwVONEHmAZg

Does that sound like someone who is buying into LW's 'I'm the queen of the victims!' bullshit? And does this look like the deranged rantings of 'Yuh Privlidge! Muh oppreshun!' intersectional idjit:

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/local/article/An-open-letter-from-Candace-Owens-6872591.php

The walls not only have ears, they lie.

>>322424

she has admitted

>her platform could be used for abuse

>the fact that she will double check her sources doesn't mean shit, this woman has no right

>her past

She sees GG as useful idiots, don't touch the poop let her and the crybullies fight, her idea is bad and should be called out as such just because she's a little better at framing it doesn't make it any better

it's still a doxing platform for threats both real and perceived

One thing she mentioned in the Ralph interview was that she intended this to be a background check service that Employers can access. When I hear this it makes me think of something along the lines of Adept Data. This is a service available only to employers who pay a subscription fee. If the employer has to run a background check on a potential candidate they submit the candidates identifying information to Adept Data to find out if they have a criminal history and if they are being honest about their listed work and education history. It does not check social media activities. If this is like a back ground check service, but will also allow employers to see if a potential candidate has issued harassing/rape threats via the candidate's social media platforms then this is completely different from what I had initially thought it was.

>>322425

If any of you listened to her interview with Ralph, she was emphatic in her support for "no bad tactics". She literally stated that she does not understand why anyone would oppose doxxing 'trolls', unless he was a troll himself. She literally cannot comprehend that anyone would oppose 'no bad tactics'

This social autopsy thing is bad and you should feel bad for supporting it, hands off of my anon; I have to admit though that this whole twitter drama is absolutely hilarious.

Also I kinda want to take Candace to a nice dinner, then grab her hand, hush her and tell her that everything will be alright. IMO she is passionate about this and genuinely wants to make the world a better place but doesn't understand how social media and the internet really work and how deep they go. Her cuck boyfriend should've protected her gf from getting involved in this mess. That, or I'm silly and being played HARD; I don't care tho, she's kinda cute.

Still, it would be nice if the drama queens got finally ousted to the general public as social media bullies they are - not at the cost of 'literally breaking the internet', though.

Hi, Zoe, so good of you to drop by again. Or is it Lifshitz? Or both? One of you knows how to form complete sentences, so I'd go with 'both'.

Looks like your fantasyland is coming apart, better look at another overseas vacation. Maybe somewhere without an extradition treaty, do you have enough money skimmed off for Dubai?

>>322255

You seem to have missed the

>…if you don't think about it too much.

part.

>>322427

Well I've always agreed with "no bad tactics" personally. Way too many moralfags in gamergate. Its generally wrong to punch someone but if they're getting in your face and pushing you or try to hit you first then punch them in their fucking face. Similarly its generally wrong to dox someone but if they're threatening you or doxing others I have no issue with it.

>>322459

but even if you go that way of thinking, SA is still a bad idea, if you do nothing but show up a person in a online argument or make them look bad to their employment, they can hit you back in a way that could get you killed

it's mexican stand off logic and it's just one of the abuses SA could be used for.

>>322462

There are far too many ways to abuse this. Especially for people that mean you harm. They can provoke you, you can say some stupid shit, they cap it, remove their provoking, send it to SA, and bam, you have this entry for a year. As soon as the entry is up, they and their buddies will contact your employer and if you don't have a good standing that protects you, you'll be fired , your contract runs out, or you'll have less of a chance of promotion etc. Far too many things that could be abused with a platform like this.

>>322466

>>322462

Also don't forget that it was planned for Facebook, where anonymity isn't really a thing. The trolls and abusers are usually behind anonymous accounts, especially on other social media. Most of the time, it won't hit actual trolls and abusers.

I was target of such an abuser on a facebook like social platform specific to my country. I knew who the guy was, because I met him once in RL. His account was fake, with a fake name, a fake picture, a fake bio, fake education credentials, etc.

I've been hearing talk that some think this whole this is bait and a trap.

I'm all for the SJWs eating each other but I can't scratch that feeling that something is fishy about Social Autopsy.

>>322492

It's always finishy with those people. But this time they appear to be less dumb about this.

>>322459

>>322462

>>322466

I draw the line at an eye for an eye.

the No bad tactics imply every tactic is okay to use because muh evilz and righteousness, regardless of what your "enemy" actually did, and I don't mean as a whole, I mean doxing some SJW because OTHER SJWs did it.

but Doxxing a CONFIRMED doxxer? or fighting back with the same tactics already used on ya by a specific individual? I won't bat an eye.

the main difference is I wont be hitting 1st, but I will be hitting back, and will hit the perpetrator only, not the other useful idiots as long they didnt do anything either.

>>322529

I was right on this zoe probably did sock puppet candace but owens idea and her view of the internet as a whole is beyond fucked

http://nymag.com/following/2016/04/how-social-autopsy-fell-for-gamergate-trutherism.html

heres comes main stream meeeeddiaaaaa

>>322534

http://archive.is/YzS3I

>>322534

Archive.

http://archive.is/ZDe97

>By Jesse Singal

Oh boy.

>(In a DM conversation, Quinn acknowledged she had teared up, but denied saying anything that Owens could have interpreted as “This is going to ruin everything!” She also denied having claimed to be speaking for anyone other than herself.)

>During our DM chats following our phone conversation, she also kept getting hung up on anonymity — she found it highly suspicious, and indicative of a possible conspiracy, that so many people were bashing her anonymously. “If you don't use your real name on Twitter why do you have SO many followers?” she asked me at one point.

And then you have Singal doing some double think to ignore how a known troll and manipulator to do both of those things is just a conspiracy.

>they consider gamergate the SJW 9/11

….wut

>>322243

>Um. Yeah? And since when is it a crime to be a communist? A communist simply believes that a society should be run in a certain way

Communism by definition is stateless and therefore requires the destruction of the existing democratic process.

>>322415

>You are siding with the Shark because you hate the fish

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, as the saying goes.

More than anything Im just impressed that this negress looked straight through the media narrative.

If you read wikipedia and all these other dodgy articles about us you would think we were complete cunts.

After 1 phone call with Zoe she saw right through all of that. Which is really smart.

>>322538

It's a reference to 9/11 truthers, a smear tactic.

>>322554

Just to note, if we were doing this, there's no way in hell we could stop on a dime like that. This proves it was someone organised, though she did make the announcement publicly.

>>322415

We can deal with the shark later, we're not beholden to her if she decides to act a fool and we aren't obligated to fight on two fronts for some moral high ground.

Twitter as a whole is not down, neither is @unburntwitch, ZQ's primary twitter account, but the @primeape account just went to "page does not exist" mode, despite being private/locked down to anyone not approved for following.

SUSPICIOUS, ALART ALART

I aint gonna lie, I do love ow these events are unfonlding. I was at worst suspicious of the intent, at best seeing a subversion OP where we expose actual SJW harrasers (with proofs).

I sincerely did not expect her to call out Zoe and Randi, even less to see the Whos actually go and attack her, they basically tried to labbel her GG and throw her in the pit with the rest of us, and it is hilarious to see a "well intended" normie get a huge reality slap like this.

>>322590

>>322590

Yeah that is the most surprising thing to me.

She even said she read about us on wikiepdia. Which only offers a horribly biased one sided account of what happened.

Since when have normies been able to see through establishment lies so easily?

Im kinda scared. Thats meant to be our secret power.

any new developpement?

>>322990

Watch twitter, candace had dived into gamergate and gives a good fight, people are tryin to help her contact other journalists for objective coverage.